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gf

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 11:38am PT
BC Parks seems unlikely to condone any human-caused damage to that tree, and you could hardly blame them. Cheap vandalism.

Here endeth the lesson-MH as come down from the mount clutching the stone tablets with a new one chiselled in-Thou shalt not lunge for the branch when doing the 3 bolt clip into the right side!

I however am applying to bc parks to have this branch removed from park oversight -i figure since it does not actually touch the chief proper then this could be considered a recreational easement.
In the meantime, heed the words of MH lest ye be cast out and reported for human caused damage when grabbing or standing on the cedar branch.
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Sep 19, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
Yes, I can climb today Bruce, meet me at the second pullout and we can do Running man on gear.
All kidding aside, why for art thou unable to climb from here on in?
Operation? Trip? Hand modelling contract?

As an arborist I can assure you Thuja plicata is a very resilient species and it's growth will slow to match the resources available. It will be there for a long time to come unless our climate changes, the pillar removes it or it contracts Didymascella thujina or Jimella brennani.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Sep 19, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
What you guys don't realize is that the Pillar alreadyfell off, during the February 2001 earthquake.

http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1545/1

American climbers were panicked.
Some guy from Ontario even called up Murray at Climb On to ask if the GW was still climbable.

Thanks to the amazing skills of the Squamish Climbers Society, the prosthetic replacement for the Pillar that was emplaced very soon afterwards has successfully fooled most climbers into thinking that nothing ever fell off.

The original pillar was taken to the quarry next to the Bluffs parking lot and sawn up into granite counter tops for yuppies.



Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 19, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
Then I'm all for the tree being left In place, prying away. Genuine Split Pillar granite counter tops would be RAD ! ! !
gf

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
and of course all the old guys havn't been there in decades.....
Hey speak for yourself bub -happy to report I have hit every decade for an ascent of the grand since the 70's-of course in the 80's and 90's in a good year it topped out at over 10+ hot laps -this decade -only 2 so far.....must make amends.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Sep 19, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
^^^^^^GUFFAW^^^^^^^^
MH2

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
Young guys don't divide their life into decades.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 19, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
Young guys don't divide their life into decades.

Young guys can actually remember what happened in what decade.
gf

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
Oh for god sakes, I've met 20 year olds that act older than 80+ dudes the only thing to fear is having to spend time with someone who's not curious.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 20, 2013 - 01:37am PT
Young guys can actually remember what happened in what decade.

Really easy to do when only one or two really count.
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Sep 20, 2013 - 04:17am PT
You could be right Lurky it's been a while since I was last up there although (yellow cedar) is usually at higher elevations. They have also been reclassified to the Cupressaceae family so it's now Cupressus nookatensis. This reclassification comes with the same controversy we see on this thread daily, surprise, surprise. People are people so why should it be..............
I will look more closely next time I'm lurking up there.
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Sep 20, 2013 - 10:37am PT
I made comment on how much the cedar at the base of the Pillar had grown in my time and offered oblique and uninformed speculation as to whether it might eventually assist the Pillar in it's ultimate arrival at the base of the Grand.
I didn't suggest or advocate the tree's (or The Pillar's) removal.
Then we receive an all to familiar pedantic polemic (complete with biased aspersions against forestry workers with a weakness for rock climbing) and are reminded that although every other piece of vegetation on the Chief is open game in the name of benevolently making more moderate rock available to the masses, the cedar at the base of the Pillar is both valiant and nigh sacrosanct.
Reminds me of the Golden Spruce and it's demise at the hands of a man driven mad by mass hypocrisy.

Perry the Logger
TheSoloClimber

Trad climber
Vancouver
Sep 20, 2013 - 11:04am PT
Haha Perry, I don't think any of us are even remotely considering actually chopping the tree. I only brought it up for the troll's amusement. It appears that I have succeeded.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Sep 20, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
I don't think it will be merch for another 20 years or so anyways
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Sep 20, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
BK,
No, I didn't know Grant Hadwin but learned that he was based out of The Goldbridge area.
He was apparently a man of prodigious strength and capacity and a genius at laying out roadways to inaccessible timber.
He swam icy rivers, drank hard liquor straight by the forty pounder and would routinely pass out in ditches in the worst of weather.
He lost his faith in the forestry system and some would say he lost his mind as well.
The veneration of a single mutant spruce in the desolation of the former splendor of the Juskatla Spruce Flats on Haida Gwaii became the focal point for his frustration.
While I don't agree that he should have killed The Golden Spruce, I totally understand and agree with his premise.
Grant Hadwin was a tragic product of his time and his epic undertaking will resonate with those who care to examine his story.

Meanwhile, back at The Stand..........
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Sep 20, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
Berntsen, Robinson, Howe, Shemko and a host of Renaissance Rednecks who have defied the ill informed stereotyping of people who made their living logging.
MH2

climber
Sep 20, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
when I read that book

Have you also read The Tiger, also by John Vaillant?

There is a curious connection between the two having to do with with logging economies. I saw John Vaillant introduce the movie Conflict Tiger in Vancouver. I have a hard time seeing him as the voice for any kind of redneck but that may be small-minded of me. I have not read The Golden Spruce but was fascinated by the story.

Thank goodness that climbers are either mostly sane or crazy the same way I am.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Sep 20, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
This is good stuff. The man you speak of Perry, sounds interesting & worth looking into.

Did the last day of summer pass Bruce? I manged to get the hell out there just in time perhaps, mwaaahaha.


gf was crackin me up back there.







gf

climber

Sep 19, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Oh for god sakes, I've met 20 year olds that act older than 80+ dudes the only thing to fear is having to spend time with someone who's not curious.






Edit- Big Mike, what day u getting to the walley?
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
We'll be in yellow pines by tuesday afternoon. I hear you're coming up wednesday? You wanna hit Cookie Cliff or something?
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 22, 2013 - 12:58am PT
Time for more pictures. These are from a few years ago on a day in the Valley of Shaddai.

Just Blessed
Just Blessed
Credit: Ghost

Avalon, p 3. A really good pitch.
Avalon, p 3. A really good pitch.
Credit: Ghost

Late in the day, looking down the Valley of Shaddai.
Late in the day, looking down the Valley of Shaddai.
Credit: Ghost
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