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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jun 19, 2014 - 09:07am PT
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Clearly Barley hanging on a dirty rope is the only thing that should be in the background of any wedding pics. Sounds like a great idea actually. I wonder if he's booked for September yet?
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Jun 19, 2014 - 10:45am PT
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The STSG is very much in start up mode, working out kinks and developing offerings.
Lots of challenges and they're both way behind and too far ahead of themselves in many areas.
I wheezed up the trail a couple weeks ago to check things out, have a beverage, take in the views and download; impressive.
A mountain bike trail system is in the works, probably not on line before 2016.
Attendance is weather dependent.
I've heard upwards of 2500 a day when it's nice out and a lot quieter in the clag.
Apparently 1000 download tickets in a day for those who walked up and it's evident on the backside start and Upper Shannon Falls Trail (now named Sea to Summit) and will undoubtedly evolve into a freak show….The Gondi Grind?
Squamish SAR has had a number of calls related to the gondola including a HETS extraction, all primarily on the Sea to Summit trail and it's expected that call volume will go up with the increasing numbers venturing up into the Sky Pilot Basin.
It's easy to find things to criticize about the STSG, after all it's operated by fallible human beings mired in value conflicts and writhing on the horns of ethical dilemmas in the pursuit of profit.
Who are they being held accountable to?
To the best of my knowledge, there is no comprehensive land use strategy based on informed and collaborative dialogue between key stakeholders and this should be an obligation and priority we all hold the Crown agencies and STSG to.
If we get it right, the Sky Pilot Basin will evolve into a world class recreation area and benefit the Squamish lifestyle and economy; that's why I supported it.
The alternative however, is a garish and embarrassing boondoggle.
I think we should be concerned about the proposed logging and ensure that visual impacts are mitigated as best as possible and at the same time recognize the whole basin's been logged and could showcase progressive and sustainable silviculture practices.
Likewise with the LNG proposal for the former Woodfibre site.
Seems a shame to build a gondola for a view of either heavy handed logging or a misplaced LNG plant at odds with the recovery of Howe Sound and with a marginal connection to the local economy.
Back to cragging, slagging and posing down.
PB
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Jun 19, 2014 - 11:10am PT
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One of the things that impressed me during my three months in the South Tirol was the seemingly peaceful coexistence between the skiing, climbing, logging, agriculture and tourism sectors.
It appeared they were all accepted as vital elements in a varied and sustainable "mountain economy".
Take care of some livestock, run a groomer or lift, do a little selective logging, pull down at the crags, guide an alpine route, hike a via ferrata, maybe some pasta and a sip of grappa at a refugio and then home to the family.
What a concept.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Jun 19, 2014 - 11:35am PT
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bk,
Agreed.
They should be drawing on alternative energy from a small turbine in the creek.
If we can do it to the Ashlu and Mamquam, it should work up there.
PB
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jun 19, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
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City of Mission is on a big push to develop for-profit and not-for-profit recreation in their city-owned Tree Farm License, everything from trials bike trails to campsites to climbing crags.
If Mission can do it, and marry recreation to sustainable forestry, why can't Squampton?
http://www.mission.ca/forestry/stavewest/
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jun 19, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
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Mission.
Maple Ridge has a couple adjacent woodlots, and the Research Forest, but no TFL.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Jun 19, 2014 - 07:17pm PT
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Just realized I've been schwambazelled into egregious thread drift like a Cutty to a Croc.
Not sure Big Mike would qualify rants about the gondola as On Topic.
I did recently get a guided tour of Woodstock by The Bear himself.
Prodigious effort and outstanding little crag.
Safe and aesthetic haven for aging crag rats.
Way to go Peder!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jun 19, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
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Is Woodstock the new zone south of Quercus Perry??
Mayor Moorhead was pretty happy about it the other day when I saw him heading up there to work on the murrin loop trail.
He said steep, pumpy 5.10s on great rock that are nice & clean & well equipped for the standard bolt clipping poofter. Looking forward to checking them out.
Big Mike approves of increasing the post count to this thread by any means necessary so long as it's civil.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Jun 19, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
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It even looks a bit like a Pet wall for aging hippie has beens!
Sounds like time to get off the skis and drive up!
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Relic
Social climber
Weenie
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Jun 20, 2014 - 12:53am PT
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a Pet wall for aging hippie has beens!
Sign me the fook up!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 20, 2014 - 07:41am PT
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a Pet wall for aging hippie has beens!
Ain't nobody here more qualified than me in that regard, so sign me up too.
Where is this place? Might be just what is required this weekend.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 20, 2014 - 08:57pm PT
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Ghost was prolly there stoned in the mud
Well, yeah, but I still want to know where the Squamish version of Woodstock is.
We're headed up tomorrow morning for a long weekend. Mari wants to test herself on Sunset Strip, I just want to come home alive.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 20, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
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ghost -lets huck a lap on the sea traverse tomorrow am!!!
Um... What qualifies as AM in your world?
At some point tomorrow we'll wake up. After that there will be sorting out what to take, getting it in the car, realizing that we should probably eat something, and, eventually, getting in the car ourselves and heading north.
About an hour and a half after that, we'll hit the border. Last couple of times we've been there, the wait has only been five minutes. But some days it can be as much as 45 minutes or an hour.
So my guess is that we'll be crossing the Second Narrows bridge just about the time morning becomes afternoon.
Does that work for you?
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jun 20, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
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Ghost,
If u do SS, under no circumstances can you try to talk Mari out of doing the final 10a pitch. Best pitch on the route, have fun.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 20, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
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Fell into the drink off that traverse once and came back to the surface without my sunglasses. Maybe if the tide is low enough I'll find them again.
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Hmmm. If the tide is that low, we'll need bouldering pads.
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adikted
Boulder climber
Tahooooeeeee
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Jun 21, 2014 - 01:36am PT
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Currently in Vancouver seeing awesome music.....in squamish for the next 4 weeks...stoke is high!!!!!
Greg
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MH2
climber
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Jun 24, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
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I've noticed it.
And someone more ear-to-the-ground than I directed me to the topo etc. For a long time I've wanted to get on that rock. Finally a route has appeared. Hurray!
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Jun 24, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
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^^^
Well why did you let pazzo get a job...its hurting everyone :)
Lets get him and go!!
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