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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Mar 16, 2011 - 09:40am PT
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Under 3 hours is excellent for 'a chica'! Great job.
I love to run marathons and longer - I am too slow for shorter distances.
Besides, I love being out on the trails all day (and all night in the case of 100-milers).
I never use charts or HR monitors so it is interesting to read how athletes here use them. I am sure they help improve training and racing, and recovery and should be paying attention ;)
However I do run time trials every so often at various distances as a way to measure progress.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2011 - 09:48am PT
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I've never come close to running a sub three hour marathon. I did a 3:20 once, and once on a 50 miler I ran sub 4 for the first marathon part. Those are the fastest by far. That's what I like about trail running theya re slower and it suits me better. I'm more of a stubborn plodder than a sprinter. I think it's the same thing that allow me satisfaction with increments of a couple inches at a time in hard offwidths....
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Mar 16, 2011 - 10:26am PT
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I ran two marathons in 1997 and 1998; the second was just under 3 hours---thank god, because otherwise I might have had to run a third. Then I did a little better at shorter distances (best was 16:37 in a road 5K), which I enjoyed more. But those times, not that they're anything special, cost me a lot of training miles, and I got bored churning them out and moved onto surfing and climbing. I still operate a website I put up in 1997; at one point it had a thriving forum, but people left as it got dominated by shouting matches. The workout log and calculator are still used, though: http://merv.stanford.edu (check the HTML---crude even for 1997).
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Mar 16, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
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Jaybro, I have the same attitude to running - I am not a natural runner but I do love the challenge of seeing how far I can run and enjoy every minute of it. Trails in the mountains are my favourite for the scenery and the softer running surface, even if it is rocky.
I did do one road marathon, Boston, in 2007, and finished in 03:34. This was one week after doing a trail 50-miler, and I spent the two days before the marathon back country skiing - tempting fate :)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2011 - 04:58pm PT
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4.5 mile 5 finger pavement run , 122.5 miles ytd
Glad to hear it Lisa. I think we're alike in this.
One of my favorite runs was The Silver State 50/50 in I think, '96. I ran the short version, a 'long' 50k that they said was really 34.5 miles. Rainy day in May. Started by a 24hr bar in Reno. The proprieter let us hang out out of the weather. The pub was filled with runners, and people having 5:00 am cocktails and shaking their heads at the peopel in runing short sin the 45º dawn!
The first part ran up 10,000' Peavine mtn, then back down below 5k'. The second part went up the other side of the valley to a similarly high point. Rain, hail, slipeery clay mud, the works. There was a six mile section running on top of hardpack snow, you could feel the cold radiate up your legs. There were some elite, road runners hating life on this run, especially yht woman right ahead of me (who had won a 50 miler in San jose two weeks before) who I watched get her shoe sucked off her foot into the mud and step down into the muck in her sock I thought it was one of the coolest adventures ever! They had bowls of ibuprofen next to bowls of M & M's at the aid stations, red licorice and hot soup at some! Really slow, really fun! It ended at a posh suburban clubhouse. they let us do cannonballs into the pool in our running clothes! A barbecue followed. I got a belt buckle, And a T-shirt!
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Mar 16, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
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I did do one road marathon, Boston, in 2007, and finished in 03:34. This was one week after doing a trail 50-miler, and I spent the two days before the marathon back country skiing - tempting fate :)
How do you do Boston as one road marathon--don't you need to qualify for Boston by doing (at least one) other road marathons?
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Mar 16, 2011 - 05:38pm PT
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Dunno about Lisa's situation, but about 20% of Boston entrants are running for charities, and these folks do not need to qualify with prior marathon times.
Edit: See below: Lisa qualified on trails (which is harder than on the road). Impressed by you ultrathoners! Nothing ultra about today but it'll do: 4 hilly miles w/stairs.
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Mar 16, 2011 - 07:30pm PT
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Jaybro, nice 50K+++ The more miserable the conditions the more fun I have. Probably because I have an excuse for my slow time ;)
Dave Horton is the RD for a number of trail ultras in VA and all his are the stated distance +++ unknown miles, or 'Horton' miles.
As for qualifying for Boston, I qualified on a very easy, mostly flat trail marathon, in a time of 03:28, to my surprise. I did not intend to qualify but once I realized I figured I should do one road marathon to see what it was like. It was a different experience to have crowds lining almost the entire course, including all the occupants of a retirement home ( who seemed rather out of it). The pavement was relentless though and I was pretty sore after it.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Mar 16, 2011 - 08:47pm PT
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OK, thanks for cluing me in on Boston. By the way, when I reread my post, I saw it could be read as some sort of "challenge"--I didn't intend it that way.
I tried to train for a marathon about 5 years ago, came down with Achilles tendinitis so couldn't do it, am trying again but now I think I'm getting plantar fasciitis. We'll see what happens, but I'll try my mid-week run this evening (5 miler). Good luck all you aerobic heads: it's a tough "job" but someone's gotta do it.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Mar 16, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
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Back from Red Rocks... I'll play... I'd have to look up my best 5k time, but my best 10k time was 34:32, St. Pattie's Day Race, Spring 1982. Frank Shorter was in the race and, cocky youngster that I was, I figured I'd run behind him for the first mile. I crossed the 1 mile mark in 5:03 and Frank was just barely in sight ahead. Needless to say, I slowed a bit after that.
Yesterday 1 hr 16 min on the mountain bike, today 3.12 mile run.
20 lbs down, 10 to go.
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susu
Trad climber
East Bay, CA
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Mar 17, 2011 - 10:39am PT
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Top of the morning to ya! Going jogging 35 minutes to an hour.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 10:43am PT
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Rock on Susu! I'm on soccer uncle detail at present, but will get after it a bit later!
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Mar 17, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
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RHR this a.m. @ 49. On the bike at 5pm today, projecting in Josh tomorrow.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
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2.5 mile, muddy, 5 finger run in Tilden.
Multiple ambulances and fire trucks on inspiration trail (closed to traffic usually, paved) yikes!
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Mar 17, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
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1hr 10min on the bike, 18mi. Stayed in the 70-80% max hr range.
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Mar 17, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
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Got 5.25 miles in 61 minutes today on the Stairmaster.
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Steve L
Gym climber
SUR
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Mar 18, 2011 - 10:08am PT
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I got 3 CF workouts in this week, all high intensity, anaerobic, pass-out-when-your-done type affairs. Yesterday and today are rest days, with climbing this weekend. If the point of this thread is to motivate us to address the weaknesses in our game, then for me, that is sleep. I see fitness as equal parts exercise, diet, and rest. Sacrificing one of those hinders success at the other two. I look forward to the physical activity, and my diet is clean, but for me, the crux has always been getting enough rest. Over the past decade, I've probably averaged 5-6 hours a night of sleep; not nearly enough for me. Anyway, this week I made it a point to stop doing everything early, and get to bed. On Monday night, I got 9 hours of sleep; a great way to start the week. Tuesday was 8 hours, 7 on Wednesday, and 8 hours last night. The difference in my workouts was definitely noticeable. We'll see how it carries over to climbing tomorrow. Obviously, a big part of it is being able to fall and stay asleep once you've gone to bed, but I'm going to stay focused on putting down the books/computer by 8:30pm, and catching zzz's by 9.
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thedogfather
Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
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Mar 18, 2011 - 11:15am PT
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Normal cardio for me is 30 min on the elliptical. It's a heart-rate driven model so it adjusts the resistance to keep you in your target zone. For me, at 61, my zone is 128. This burns about 350-400 calories per session. I can tell when I am over-training since my calories burned will be under 350. On a good day, like yesterday, I burned 428 for the same 30 minute period. Heart rate while laying in bed about to sleep was 42.
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krahmes
Social climber
Stumptown
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Mar 18, 2011 - 11:22am PT
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JayBro-How are those 5-Fingers? Any changes in running style due to the lack of jacked up sole underneath the heel?
15-20 miles a week half on very muddy Forest Park trails.
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