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Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 11, 2011 - 01:13am PT
As we all know, aerobic exercise is good for us, for climbing, life etc, but it can be harder to motivate till you get into it. So the purpose of this thread is to provide some sort of motivation via peer support.
I'm mostly a runner, but also a sometime mtn bker/bicycle commuter, etc. But for our purposes here anything that gets your heart rate up into the target zone (roughly 60-80% of Max for 20 minutes or so or more works. Anything leading up to that works too. Run, walk, jog, bike, dance,circuit weight traing, ellipticals, treadmills, skaring whatever.

Sometimes it's good to talk about times and distances and stuff and clearly that can be part of it, but that can turn into a one-upmanship/pissing contest. So for now, I'm thinking just on/off sort of check in, maybe type of exercise, days to date in the year?

this is an evolving process, totally into suggestions as well.

I'll start;
√ I got me some, today a short run. The 22nd run day I've managed this year. My best day so far was last saturday

Who's next?
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:17am PT
I pushed some weights this morning at the community centre, with some coaching from a knowledgeable friend. It seemed time to learn about it.

Later, I swam, so that was aerobic. A habit I developed when I did triathlons - fairly disciplined, structured workouts. I'm now back up to 3 - 4 swims a week, usually around 2,000 m.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2011 - 01:22am PT
that noob?...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:23am PT
hill sprints, 10 sets 45 seconds each @180-187 BPM. 45 second rest. Next week goes to 50/45. Three times a week, with one day rowing instead of hill sprints.

3 days a week, 2 sets 20 minutes at 160-167 BPM on stairs, threadmill and elyptical (1 day each). Squats/pushups/situps/dips in between.

1 day long hike/ski. 2 days / week climbing in gym as part of weight training on interval days.

On week 4. It sucks. But its so good.


edit - max HR is 196
LithiumMetalman

Trad climber
cesspool central
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:24am PT
2 rides a week into the skyline /Los Altos/Redwood city hills on my singlespeed.

25 min run after every climbing session so far this season.

Heading out to Marin this weekend on my singlespeed.

karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:30am PT
Sunday I had a good 2 hour cardio burn at Sunnyvale skatepark, and 2 45 minute speed bouldering sessions at planet granite sunnyvale on tues and today. These consist of 10 v1s, 10 v2s, 10 v3s and as many v4s I can get before 45 min runs out. Heart rate gets pretty high.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:35am PT
Pretty good day. Got out the door, decided it was too rainy, so came back in and headed down to the treadmill to find it serving as a clothes rack. Concluded it was time to start dinner.

Hoping to do even more tomorrow.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:39am PT
I hiked to Dales camp and climbed the Cuban Roll first go. Then walked fast back to birthday boulders against a strong wind. Felt like aerobic exercise to me!
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:40am PT
Daylight savings starts this weekend;kicking off the Tuesday/Wednesday road bike action. Also, i have a nice selection of trails right out the front door. 3,000 ft vertical or a nice long traverse.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:44am PT
It sounds like murcy is philosophical about his wannabe life on the treadmill.
The Wedge

Boulder climber
Santa Rosa & Bishop, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 02:28am PT
Chichen...That this is soo good. Did you hit the Zeppelin or Painted Cave on the way?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 02:39am PT
bike commuter
2011 to date: 43 days (of 49 week days) for 523 miles year's goal is 2400 miles commuting (average of 200 miles per month)

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:15am PT
bouldered at the gym


Squiddo can vouch for me showing up.


pushed a bunch of V0s to keep me moving and heart rate going, walking back and forth between the outside and inside areas. Finished by working on an overhanging "V2" with big holds. I was sweating by the end.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:42am PT
Ok. I'll try it. My current goal is at least 35 minutes most days of the week if climbing outside on the weekend. If not climbing outside, more aerobic exercise at least one weekend day.

This week, I've logged 22 miles, 3 hours, and a calorie burn of 1400 over 3 days. Jogged twice about 5 miles each time and bicycled twice in one day for a cumulative 12 miles.

Just ate mother in law brownie, though, doh!

wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:49am PT
As I have nothing to do in England but ride my bike and eat and sleep, well, that's what I've been doing. Just got back from a solo tour of Normandie averaging 80 miles a day, which isn't that much on a tour but the wind was gnarly, 10 hours riding into a headwind makes you pretty angry, and since I've been home, I've been averaging 60 miles a day. It's been great therapy for me. I've always been a fanatical rider, but the last couple years I was taking care of my dad(who had Lou Gehrig's disease) and didn't get to ride, which made me fat/depressed, and now I'm reversing all that. It feels like a rebirth. And I'm doing it not only for me but my dad too. In the last year of his life, when he literally couldn't move a single muscle except for his eyes, I can only imagine how much he thought about moving his body. So, while I'm able to, I will! I've lost 25 lbs since last summer.
Right now, a beautiful day is dawning on the North Sea coast of Kent where I live, and I'll be riding from my house near Boughton-under-Blean, to Broadstairs and back (home of Charles DIckens-I've seen his house!), 60-75 miles depending on which route I take. I'm just drinking tea until my eyes start to vibrate, then I know I've had enough caffeine. Then I'm off!
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:58am PT
Wow. Good on ya. Have a great ride Wildone!
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 04:14am PT
What are you doing up at this hour? Go to bed! It's only 9 AM here, haha.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2011 - 09:45am PT
a special brownie,Susu?

i'm glad this thread has taken hold. I'll flesh out my own entry in a bit.

Daytrippin' to the valley today. My only hope for this is to go aerobic on the approach...
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:32am PT
Doing my usual "pyramid" workouts at the health club, usually starting on the crunch machine, then leg extensions, followed by the "love-handles machine" (oblique abdominals), bench presses, upright barbell rowing , leg curls, and the leg press machine. After I break a sweat, I do low-pulley rowing and flyes. I work in leg adduction and abduction. If I start getting too tired, I take a few laps around the indoor track at a brisk walk, and then resume my self-inflicted torture.

I do this 2-3 days a week; on the off days I take a short walk (0.9 miles) out to the State Highway and back, weather permitting. This is in addition to unrolling hay bales everyday while feeding the moo cows. Now that calving is in full swing, Im making several trips a day on foot, down to the close pasture to see if I have any newbies.

Other that this, I take life pretty easy as a retired gentleman rancher.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:37am PT
Crossfit 2-3 days a week, then climbing on the weekends. The workouts change every day, some are more strength oriented (low rep, heavy olympic lifts), some are more anaerobic, some purely aerobic. The last one I did was a fun combination; heavy, high intensity, with some body weight movements mixed in. For time:

10 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
10 muscle ups
8 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
8 muscle ups
6 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
6 muscle ups
4 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
4 muscle ups
2 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
2 muscle ups

It took me 20 min, 30 sec. Not great, but decent. I've been digging the oly lifts more and more. I've found them to be very therapeutic for repetitive use injuries, and the anticipation/satisfaction of putting up big weight is similar to pulling a hard crux. The heavy, low rep schemes allow you to build strength without adding extra bulk, which is obviously important for maintaining a good strength to weight ratio.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:43am PT
Being a nordic racer, with the final two marathons coming up, aerobic training is the sea I swim in...Trick right now is to taper off. Wednesday did two sets of 30 X 30's warmed up good, then ski like a bat out of hell for 30 seconds, stop and pant or slide slow for 30, then repeat. I do this for 12 minutes as a set then rest for 4 minutes and do it again. Typical workout is three sets, Wednesday I had to run to a grant interview so stopped at two, but that was probably good as I need to keep some intensity but reduce volume right now. Waxing this morning for the Bjornloppet in Bear Valley, 20k skate, one of the best courses in the Sierra.

When in Berkeley my favorite is to do 4minutes X 4 times at level 4, on the Claremont Ridge Trail. This trail is fantastic for any kind of pace. I hill bound it with ski poles, mimic-ing the diagonal stride.

Any kind of regular aerobic exercise is really good for you!

Peter
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 11, 2011 - 11:06am PT
xc & bc skiing in the backyard, I try to average 50 miles a week between 15K & 25K elevation gain.




it's melting fast tho...



then everything turns greenie and it's time for the bike.





Mees

climber
Mar 11, 2011 - 11:14am PT
Heavy low reps don't build bulk? lmao, heavy low reps are exactly what one does to build muscle mass. Crossfit also doesn't program aerobic workouts, pretty much the antithesis of their philosophy. I do agree with your assesment of Oly weight lifting being very good for injuries etc though.
there are more efficient ways to burn fat and condition than aerobic workouts but aerobic workouts are generally more fun. I do at least 3-4 a week (trail running) but it's more for the enjoyment of being out on the trail, for mental toughness, and to attempt to be well rounded in regard to overall fitness.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:10pm PT
Jay, no special brownies... tho could a used one to get to sleep earlier!
Now that I see it in print, that damn brownie cost me 1/3 of my calorie burn for the week. Double doh!
locker

Social climber
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:14pm PT



7 days a week now, vigorous daily exercises...

Aerobic as well as strength training...

klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
i have the flu.

5th day.

it's definitely testing the lungs.


this is st: maybe we should have a thread for liver stress tests, too.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:25pm PT
If you want to build muscle mass, you should be performing reps in the 8-12 range, and reaching failure at the end of that range. That's most effective for triggering hypertrophy. Low rep, 1-5, at 85% or more of your max, triggers more of a neurological response. Your body recruits more muscle fibers and higher threshold fibers that aren't used in the higher rep schemes. Look at a weight class athlete's (ie fighter's) strength program. They will most likely be focused on the lower end of the rep range because it builds max power and targets the fast twitch fibers that make you more explosive, with minimal bulk gain. Same reason power lifters look very different than body builders.

They program in 5-10k runs occasionally, with nothing else mixed in. These types of days are pretty rare though, maybe a few times a year.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:02pm PT
I've climbed 5 of the last 8 days and will climb 2 of the next 3 as well. Of course if I keep up that pace for long my shoulders and elbows will explode!
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:58pm PT
Just got back, 76 miles round trip from my house Near Boughton-Under-Blean to an old viking ship on the other side of Ramsgate and back, all along the coast on a bikeway. Radical. 5+ hours with a fish and chips stop in there!
So beautiful today. It was really clear and just stunningly beautiful, plus the tide was out so there was a lot of interesting stuff to look at. Going to Oxford tomorrow! (on the train)
eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:30pm PT
Wildone. . .you're having the time of your life, aren't you!

YAY.

:-)

eKat
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:38pm PT

Pretty much, Kate. I dreamed about being able to ride my bike so much, like I used to, for a couple of rough years there. Trouble was, I was my dad's caretaker on the weekends, which his live-in caretaker had off, and that to me was much much more important-being with my dad. But the whole thing was just so damn heartbreaking, seeing such a lovely, intelligent, big strong man reduced like that, and just keeping it together for us kids, showing us how to die when you've been dealt a hand like that. I really could have used a ride, just for my mental stability. But every time I would start to spin out about how badly I needed to flog myself up some big climb on my bike, I would think about how damn insignificant my problems were compared to my dad's.

My mom holding my nephew with my dad and I. They loved their matching hats. My dad was only supposed to live a few more months when my paraplegic little sister found out she was pregnant. But my dad toughed it out with incredible determination.


My dad in the early stages. He never lost that spark, or his sense of humor, even in the worst of times....


How I'll remember him:

eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
Ohhhhh. . . you are so sweet, Wildone, even if you are covered in mud!

:-)

Your devotion to your dad is the epitome of keeping the magic alive. You will be rewarded for such a selfless act!

KEEP THAT MAGIC ALIVE!

ox

eKat

P.S. Look how DARLING dad was! Looks like a full on character! Now we all know where you got it!

:-)

P.P.S. I really LOVE your dad's and nephew's matching hats!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:51pm PT
nice ben.

man, you look like yr dad.

glad yr having a good time over there.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
You all are giving me a serious bout of inadequacy.

The most heart rate elevation I've gotten today was standing up quickly from my computer to get the Ben & Jerry's out of the freezer. Phew! Luckily a little cold bite takes the edge off that racing heart.

The closest thing I do to cardio is top-roping at the gym. Scratch that. Grunting up wideness is the most cardio thing I do. But that doesn't happen all too often.

I know.












I'm gonna die.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:00pm PT
Thanks Kate. I've been having a pretty tough time about it lately. I understand that he had to go, and I'm ok with dying, I mean, I understand it's part of the process, but aside from that, I miss him the same as if he'd gone on a year long trip and I hadn't seen him in that time, you know? I just really miss him. But, I did get to show him western Montana! When he got sick, but he could still kinda walk, I got us all some plane tix to spokane, we rented a car and drove over for a week. Went to a bunch of lakes and rivers, hung out with my lady's family, and he got to meet them all. That was really important to me.

One thing I'm gonna do, is mix up some of his ashes with some of my ink, and give myself a tattoo of Orion over my heart. My dad's concrete and construction company were called Orion, cause' he was a hunter like my dad, and my dad was an amateur astronomer. Before he passed, he gave me his 14 inch Meade schmidt-cassegrain. I was in a star club with him when I was a kid, and used to make summer roadtrips to observatories like the one in Flagstaff, but it's been a long time since I was stargazing. I look forward to setting that thing up in Western Montana! Mariposa didn't have a lot of light pollution, but Troy is gonna be RAD!

But to get back on topic (I apologize), we who are able have to get out there and kick some ass! Too, too soon, we're gonna be old, sitting on park benches, and some whippersnapper is gonna whiz by on a bike, or run by on foot, and we're gonna wish that all those days we wasted were instead spent going like a maniac. Cause that's all we got. A few short years to kick ass.
eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:11pm PT
I know what you mean. . . missing a parent after they sever their link with this mortal coil is trippy. It took me years to not wanna pick up the phone and call my dad after I'd done something RAD. He was fully into my TomBoyishness. . . and he fully sponsored some of my finest excursions! And, when my mom left, it took just as long to stop "almost buying" cool stuff I'd find that I knew she loved. . . silly stuff, like neat socks and fancy mustards.

Thank goodness we have the capacity to remember.

OX

eKat

P.S. I LOVE the ashes and ink thing!

P.P.S. And. . . YES. . . ALWAYS CRANK WHILE THE CRANKIN' IS GOOD!
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
Wildone, you're dad was lucky to have such a committed son, and you must have been lucky to have a dad that inspired that commitment from you.
Brandon-

climber
Done With Tobacco
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
I'm checking in...



....with jenny craig!

Need to bust 10 pounds and get myself back to my fit 5'10'', 160lbs natural self.

Trail running is something that I love, but with no MCL in one knee and no ACL in the other, it hurts these days.

Thanks for the guilt trip, all!
superbum

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_fCqg92qks
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 11, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
Gym this morning, 40min of stairs and various -ups interspersed in 2 hours bouldering + 2 hours routes.
Rolfr

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Mar 11, 2011 - 08:28pm PT
3 hour climbing gym sessions 3 times a week during the rainy season and 45min run 2-3 times a week. But for all you 50 + climbers out there, the Mighty Hiker sent me this link about overtraining.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/when-exercise-is-too-much-of-a-good-thing/?hp

I know of at least two other climbers beside me with heart arrhythmia, two of us were never big running or cardio freaks, but the common factor may be extended periods of maximum heart rate from continuous difficult climbing. Or that sh#t happens and parts wears out as you get old!
Bobert

Trad climber
boulder, Colorado
Mar 11, 2011 - 08:39pm PT
My philosophy on the subject is "Just do something!" I especially love trail running as an aerobic workout, but don't feel like doing it when its cold and snowy. The gym is also good. Weight training gives you super results, but you gotta do it. I'd rather go climbing.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
Hey Steve L, nice to see a fellow Crossfitter posting up. I follow the main site programming 3-4 days a week, and trail running is my main passion so nice thread, Jaybro.
I also follow Crossfit Endurance training for my running so do a speed session with the local affiliate every week. Most of my runs are tempo runs so the HR gets up there and stays there. No more long slow distances for me, doing 100 mile weeks with no time for a life.
I am doing a trail marathon on Sunday and cannot wait to hit the dirt :)
skywalker

climber
Mar 12, 2011 - 12:51am PT
Well to those following this thread...I use to work off ladders all day, climb afterward, and weight train after that everyday. I now have a 2 year old (almost). I'm a science teacher now and Dad as stated and we're talking 10% of what I used to do. I'm going to the desert this spring break for four days and I really haven't climbed much more than bouldering since my daughter was conceived. But what I have been doing is throwing my daughter in the baby backpack and huffin' in it up the mesa behind our house as often as weather permits (take 1 and 1/2 hrs round trip). Legs are key to climbing in my opinion and so long as you know how to climb and you got legs and cardio, the rest is easier...


Shout out to climbing parents!


S...
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 12, 2011 - 02:20am PT
Today I lugged frankies up the mountain. Not by choice, mind you, but it certainly put me into aerobic range. This wet bastard must've been 30 lbs.

Frankies from HELL!!!!
Frankies from HELL!!!!
Credit: Willoughby
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 12, 2011 - 02:31am PT
I hate that /\ /\.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2011 - 02:39am PT
Well, the approach biathalon to both Reed's and 5 & Dime, today didn't really cut it aerobically. Maybe the laps on Stone groove...
Tomorrow is a trailrunning day though. Last Saturday I ran 15 Miles, I don't think I'm going to top that, tomorrow.
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Mar 12, 2011 - 08:44am PT
Credit: blackbird

30 minutes 2X/week: 28spm/2:00-2:10/500m
30 minutes 2X/week: strength sprints (24-25spm/1:15-1:30/500m)

...my dog would disown me if I cut into any more of her run time!!

Wildone, I agree with eK: the ashes & ink idea sounds nice.

Brandon, may I suggest subbing an erg workout for a trail run?! You might be surprised... AND it's a heck-of-alot easier on the knees than running while still having the ultimate capability of kickin' yo bootayh!

bb

The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:55am PT
Nice rower setup! I only row as a warmup or when it comes up in a Crossfit workout and whew is it strenuous. Yet there are people who would rather row 5K than run 5K.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2011 - 10:13am PT
Whoa Nellie, nobody expects the spanish inquisition!
so many choices... for reasons I won't go into, I once had to train for a trail marathon on a step machine.

Another time I took a gym leader fall and broke my foot and ankle. This was Dec 18th. I had another trail marathon set for for February 5th. I couldn't take the impact of running, so I did an intensive training program of Skate skiing and rollerblading. It worked, and I successfully ran one of my slowest marathons on one of the fastest courses!
locker

Social climber
Mar 12, 2011 - 10:26am PT


My son and I played tennis two days ago...

It's been about 23yrs since I last played...

FUK!!!...

Talk about being SORE...

Credit: locker
...

Thinking about playing a little on a weekly basis...

MUCH more fun than riding my nifty stationary bike...


quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 12, 2011 - 12:54pm PT
Jaybro,

Good thread man. I'm in.






Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
Just back from 3.5 mile 5 finger trail run on a beautiful morning
runs to date in '11 23
114.5 miles

on to pullups, dips and bouldering.

Thanks Quartz, have fun and good luck!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 12, 2011 - 04:42pm PT
i just got back from the store.

now im exhausted.

1st time up & out of the house since the flu got bad.

lance armstrong can bite me.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 12, 2011 - 04:46pm PT
OK, so I swam 30,300 m in February, which is reasonable, though hardly stellar. (A serious recreational swimmer or triathlete might do twice that.) And it's not going to help me get through the narrows, or the Harding slot. But it helps. Plus I started to do some other stuff - stretches, weights - which should be good for me.

Can't let ThinRad get ahead.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Mar 12, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
castle session for a couple hours, not much aerobic really, but managed to at least not watch tv all morning.




murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 12, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
An hour's run, peak-bagging in SF.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:00pm PT
Alrighty, this thread inspired me to finally add regular aerobic/cardio to my workout schedule. I train climbing stuff (hangboard/campus/bouldering/4x4s/core) and some oppositional muscles around a periodization scheme, but I'm lazy and never really do more than random aerobic on my "off" training days and never structured or regularly...maybe once a week, if I'm lucky

Went to the bike shop today, picked up some new bar wrap, and finally a cheap computer. Never, in many many years of road and mtn biking have I put a comp on the bike, always meant to, been "meaning to" for 15 years...also put new batts in the HR monitor so I'm getting serious. So now I can track ride distance/season distance/speed, etc.

Today a little warm up then a quick 10mi blast up to and partially around Lake Perris and back, about 45min of worktime then a 5min or so cooldown.

Got a gym with weight room/bikes/nautilus and locker room/showers where I work, and low traffic flat roads for biking and employer allows 3hrs/week during workday for exercise, so Tue/Wed/Thu I can get it done while on the clock and breakup the workday. Yes!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:05pm PT
An hour's run, peak-bagging in SF.

Me, too. I mean, except for the SF part.
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:26pm PT
Just did a 10 mile run with a 2,500 foot altitude gain: Big Rock Ridge above Marinwood, Marin County.

Haven't done that run since I was in my twenties. Strangely I felt stronger today at 48!
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:44pm PT
Put on the backpack with 30 or so pounds and the boots. 2.5 miles over rolling roads. Just wanted to get the feel of it. Gotta start somewhere.
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Mar 12, 2011 - 10:36pm PT
Went for as much of a trail run as I can this eve.

I used to scoff at the cardio machines in the gym, but now that I can't go running outside anymore I'm starting to appreciate the elliptical. I've discovered the iPhone with videos to relieve the boredom, and fantasize about a stand to hang my laptop and do some work.
Thomas

Trad climber
The Tilted World
Mar 12, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
Six more miles with a ten year old dog. I'll call it good for now.

Cheers!
tinker b

climber
the commonwealth
Mar 12, 2011 - 11:14pm PT
twenty minutes of hula hooping to fast bluegrass. 2- 8.5' diameter (little) hoops.
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Mar 13, 2011 - 09:17am PT
Six more miles with a ten year old dog. I'll call it good for now.

Higgs IS gettin' his Frosty Paws afterwards, right?? AbbyDog thanks you for cluing me into the doggy ice cream, Thomas!

BB
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 13, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
Knee won't let me run but I can do the Stairmaster. 5 Miles or 75 minutes whatever comes first. A little bit of weight work after. It's a 7 days a week thing. Missed 2 days driving up here to Washington a couple weeks ago. Probably won't be able to keep it up when the Outage starts:-)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
3.5 mile 5 finger pavement run. Stopped at the par course and did 10 warm up pullups in the middle.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 14, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
Totally resting today, some stretching, but Saturday, placed 4th in the Bjornloppet (Bear Valley race) 20k skate, and 4th again yesterday in the 10k classic. This weekend is the big marathon, the Gold Rush, 45k skate at Royal Gorge, so this week will be pretty chill, some speed work and a short interval workout, and lots of rest.

Peter
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 14, 2011 - 10:15pm PT
Checkin in over here boss. 5min warmup -> 20min nautilus circuit legs and pushing (shoulders/chest/tris) -> 25min/100 floors stairmaster -> 5 min cooldown.

Climbing gym tomorrow.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 14, 2011 - 11:28pm PT
Pete, have fun at the Gold Rush!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 15, 2011 - 12:30am PT
inadvertently walked 10 miles today...
4.5 of them intentional...
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 12:34am PT
4.5 miles on the treadmill in 50 minutes.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2011 - 12:39am PT
Way to go Peter!

Um, I hate to ask, Ed, but....

MisterE

Social climber
Cinderella Story, Outa Nowhere
Mar 15, 2011 - 12:57am PT
Kenpo today, lots of aerobic stuff in the P90X!

Skip and I are going to look GOOD for the wedding!
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:11am PT
I love p90x; my 2 favs are plyo and kenpo. I especially like the yelling part!
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:13am PT
Jaybro,
great idea tracking progress here, it always motivates me to report my workouts.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:15am PT
On a related note, how many marathoners are here? How many have you done?
I'm at 8, I won't tell you my times...
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:22am PT
I've done five or six marathons, two as part of triathlons. None very fast, although I did a 38:40 10 km once, BITGOD when p'terodactyls nested on the Chief.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 15, 2011 - 10:55am PT
Going to get up any minute for a jog. Probably slower than I should, but
will shoot for the long-way... about an hour.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2011 - 11:30am PT
S.Leeper, 48 marathons/Ultras mostly trail, all slow.

Right now I'm groggy but will follow the susu plan, after some more coffee...
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 15, 2011 - 02:15pm PT
Any of you folks take and/or chart your resting heart rate when you wake up?

I did it almost everyday during several training cycles back in 2003-2006, when I was actually doing a fair amount of aerobic work (primarily biking). And it was very useful to see how well you were recovering and to tweak your schedule and workouts. Seeing it graphically, on month-long charts was cool. I photocopied some month long grids with HR on the vert axis from a triathlon training book I've got.

Now I'm curious if I even still have those charts from back then. A normal RHR for me back then was about 40-45. After a heavy training day and/or not enough sleep or too much beer, it would be mid to high 50s. Anything about 6 beats above my normal, fully recovered baseline for that point in time, I'd alter the next workout and if 10 or more above I'd cut the workout way back (essentially a short low intensity "recovery ride") or cut it completely.

Lately RHR is around 50, which was one of the things that prompted me to start back up with the aerobic work.
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 15, 2011 - 05:17pm PT
18 aerobics classes (30 min. each) in last 3 weeks
Turned 59 on Sat.
33 mile road ride on new bike Sunday (Cannondale Synapse)
Laugh everytime the instructer says check your pulse - lets see if I divide the atrial rate of 300 + by the ventricular rate of 140 = 2.14 :)
Looking forward to some mountain biking.
On a side note some climber friends from Chattanooga e-mailed me they recently rode the new trails built by Volkswagen at their Chattanooga plant and said they are awesome. Quote "Those germans know how to build a mountain bike trail"
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 15, 2011 - 06:49pm PT
I just returned from Lifetime Fitness, and I'm now doing some 12 ounce curls usinig the Corona style weights; all augmented by hot salsa and Tostitos. And I feel fine!
sullly

Trad climber
CA
Mar 15, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
S. Leeper, four marathons here. Last one in 2000 was four hours two minutes, first one in 1984 was two hours fifty-five minutes. Not bad for a chica.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 15, 2011 - 08:54pm PT
In a more serious vein, I did 4 sets of abdominal crunches on the crunch machine in a pyramid: 25 crunches at 80#, 20 at 90#, 18 at 100#, qnd 12 at 110#. Then on to the leg press and 2 sets of 15 at 90#; 2 sets of leg extensions of 15 reps at 75#, and 2 sets of low pulley rows, followed by oblique abdominal machine, upright rowing, leg curls, bench press, and flyes. Then... Well, I don't spare myself while training to rock climb. I then came home and took a small afternoon walk of about a mile. Not too bad, at 72. I'm not even tired but am a bit sore. Tomorrow I just take a long walk on the ranch after unrolling a big round hay bale by hand. Then Thursday and Saturday back to the health club.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 15, 2011 - 09:08pm PT
Berthoud Pass this afternoon, four powder laps between Stanley Mt. & School of Mines Peak about 3,956 elevation gain.



Then had to stop in Empire for some chocolaty covered bacon and beer so maybe the day is a wash.






goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 15, 2011 - 09:25pm PT
oh boy, a chart!
we're getting serious now.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
S. Leeper, four marathons here. Last one in 2000 was four hours two minutes, first one in 1984 was two hours fifty-five minutes. Not bad for a chica.

Not bad 'tall!

I would give my left nut to get under 4 hours.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 16, 2011 - 09:40am PT
Under 3 hours is excellent for 'a chica'! Great job.
I love to run marathons and longer - I am too slow for shorter distances.
Besides, I love being out on the trails all day (and all night in the case of 100-milers).
I never use charts or HR monitors so it is interesting to read how athletes here use them. I am sure they help improve training and racing, and recovery and should be paying attention ;)
However I do run time trials every so often at various distances as a way to measure progress.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2011 - 09:48am PT
I've never come close to running a sub three hour marathon. I did a 3:20 once, and once on a 50 miler I ran sub 4 for the first marathon part. Those are the fastest by far. That's what I like about trail running theya re slower and it suits me better. I'm more of a stubborn plodder than a sprinter. I think it's the same thing that allow me satisfaction with increments of a couple inches at a time in hard offwidths....
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 16, 2011 - 10:26am PT
I ran two marathons in 1997 and 1998; the second was just under 3 hours---thank god, because otherwise I might have had to run a third. Then I did a little better at shorter distances (best was 16:37 in a road 5K), which I enjoyed more. But those times, not that they're anything special, cost me a lot of training miles, and I got bored churning them out and moved onto surfing and climbing. I still operate a website I put up in 1997; at one point it had a thriving forum, but people left as it got dominated by shouting matches. The workout log and calculator are still used, though: http://merv.stanford.edu (check the HTML---crude even for 1997).


The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 16, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
Jaybro, I have the same attitude to running - I am not a natural runner but I do love the challenge of seeing how far I can run and enjoy every minute of it. Trails in the mountains are my favourite for the scenery and the softer running surface, even if it is rocky.

I did do one road marathon, Boston, in 2007, and finished in 03:34. This was one week after doing a trail 50-miler, and I spent the two days before the marathon back country skiing - tempting fate :)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2011 - 04:58pm PT
4.5 mile 5 finger pavement run , 122.5 miles ytd

Glad to hear it Lisa. I think we're alike in this.
One of my favorite runs was The Silver State 50/50 in I think, '96. I ran the short version, a 'long' 50k that they said was really 34.5 miles. Rainy day in May. Started by a 24hr bar in Reno. The proprieter let us hang out out of the weather. The pub was filled with runners, and people having 5:00 am cocktails and shaking their heads at the peopel in runing short sin the 45 dawn!

The first part ran up 10,000' Peavine mtn, then back down below 5k'. The second part went up the other side of the valley to a similarly high point. Rain, hail, slipeery clay mud, the works. There was a six mile section running on top of hardpack snow, you could feel the cold radiate up your legs. There were some elite, road runners hating life on this run, especially yht woman right ahead of me (who had won a 50 miler in San jose two weeks before) who I watched get her shoe sucked off her foot into the mud and step down into the muck in her sock I thought it was one of the coolest adventures ever! They had bowls of ibuprofen next to bowls of M & M's at the aid stations, red licorice and hot soup at some! Really slow, really fun! It ended at a posh suburban clubhouse. they let us do cannonballs into the pool in our running clothes! A barbecue followed. I got a belt buckle, And a T-shirt!
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Mar 16, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
I did do one road marathon, Boston, in 2007, and finished in 03:34. This was one week after doing a trail 50-miler, and I spent the two days before the marathon back country skiing - tempting fate :)

How do you do Boston as one road marathon--don't you need to qualify for Boston by doing (at least one) other road marathons?
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 16, 2011 - 05:38pm PT
Dunno about Lisa's situation, but about 20% of Boston entrants are running for charities, and these folks do not need to qualify with prior marathon times.

Edit: See below: Lisa qualified on trails (which is harder than on the road). Impressed by you ultrathoners! Nothing ultra about today but it'll do: 4 hilly miles w/stairs.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 16, 2011 - 07:30pm PT
Jaybro, nice 50K+++ The more miserable the conditions the more fun I have. Probably because I have an excuse for my slow time ;)
Dave Horton is the RD for a number of trail ultras in VA and all his are the stated distance +++ unknown miles, or 'Horton' miles.

As for qualifying for Boston, I qualified on a very easy, mostly flat trail marathon, in a time of 03:28, to my surprise. I did not intend to qualify but once I realized I figured I should do one road marathon to see what it was like. It was a different experience to have crowds lining almost the entire course, including all the occupants of a retirement home ( who seemed rather out of it). The pavement was relentless though and I was pretty sore after it.
sullly

Trad climber
CA
Mar 16, 2011 - 07:30pm PT
Well Jaybro and Murcy I'll have to look up my 5k and 10k prs. These days I'm running a whopping half hour a day due to work. I still pretty much suck as a climber, but that's ok. Jaybro, since the ultra world is small, we probably have run with the same South Bay people. I use to help with the Western States aid station just before Forest Hill. It was a blast. One day I'd like to pace somebody there.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Mar 16, 2011 - 08:47pm PT
OK, thanks for cluing me in on Boston. By the way, when I reread my post, I saw it could be read as some sort of "challenge"--I didn't intend it that way.
I tried to train for a marathon about 5 years ago, came down with Achilles tendinitis so couldn't do it, am trying again but now I think I'm getting plantar fasciitis. We'll see what happens, but I'll try my mid-week run this evening (5 miler). Good luck all you aerobic heads: it's a tough "job" but someone's gotta do it.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 16, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
Back from Red Rocks... I'll play... I'd have to look up my best 5k time, but my best 10k time was 34:32, St. Pattie's Day Race, Spring 1982. Frank Shorter was in the race and, cocky youngster that I was, I figured I'd run behind him for the first mile. I crossed the 1 mile mark in 5:03 and Frank was just barely in sight ahead. Needless to say, I slowed a bit after that.

Yesterday 1 hr 16 min on the mountain bike, today 3.12 mile run.
20 lbs down, 10 to go.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 17, 2011 - 10:39am PT
Top of the morning to ya! Going jogging 35 minutes to an hour.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 10:43am PT
Rock on Susu! I'm on soccer uncle detail at present, but will get after it a bit later!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 17, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
RHR this a.m. @ 49. On the bike at 5pm today, projecting in Josh tomorrow.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
2.5 mile, muddy, 5 finger run in Tilden.

Multiple ambulances and fire trucks on inspiration trail (closed to traffic usually, paved) yikes!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 17, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
1hr 10min on the bike, 18mi. Stayed in the 70-80% max hr range.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 17, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
Got 5.25 miles in 61 minutes today on the Stairmaster.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:08am PT
I got 3 CF workouts in this week, all high intensity, anaerobic, pass-out-when-your-done type affairs. Yesterday and today are rest days, with climbing this weekend. If the point of this thread is to motivate us to address the weaknesses in our game, then for me, that is sleep. I see fitness as equal parts exercise, diet, and rest. Sacrificing one of those hinders success at the other two. I look forward to the physical activity, and my diet is clean, but for me, the crux has always been getting enough rest. Over the past decade, I've probably averaged 5-6 hours a night of sleep; not nearly enough for me. Anyway, this week I made it a point to stop doing everything early, and get to bed. On Monday night, I got 9 hours of sleep; a great way to start the week. Tuesday was 8 hours, 7 on Wednesday, and 8 hours last night. The difference in my workouts was definitely noticeable. We'll see how it carries over to climbing tomorrow. Obviously, a big part of it is being able to fall and stay asleep once you've gone to bed, but I'm going to stay focused on putting down the books/computer by 8:30pm, and catching zzz's by 9.
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:23am PT
Checkout "fitness links" on my blog @http://www.garagegymtraining.com/
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:15am PT
Normal cardio for me is 30 min on the elliptical. It's a heart-rate driven model so it adjusts the resistance to keep you in your target zone. For me, at 61, my zone is 128. This burns about 350-400 calories per session. I can tell when I am over-training since my calories burned will be under 350. On a good day, like yesterday, I burned 428 for the same 30 minute period. Heart rate while laying in bed about to sleep was 42.
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:22am PT
JayBro-How are those 5-Fingers? Any changes in running style due to the lack of jacked up sole underneath the heel?

15-20 miles a week half on very muddy Forest Park trails.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2011 - 11:39am PT
I'm getting more used to them all the time. The farthest I've run in them is five miles. I use conventional (Sportiva) trail shoes for longer runs.
The feel is def different and as you know, you naturally shift to a different running style in them. They seem to make your feet / lower legs stronger.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 18, 2011 - 01:56pm PT
A few months ago Mike recommended a cool book called "Born to Run: A hidden tribe, superathletes, and the Greatest race"

It was on the best seller list for a while, and luckily our library had a copy. It was one of the best books I've ever read on sport.

It's a journalist following/writing on the ultra scene and the Tarahumara indians of Mexico, but with tangents into running science, injuries, why these natives can run huge distances in basically a homemade sandal and little food after getting wasted on homemade beer the night before. Full of colorful characters and intriguing looks at african tribes running down prey on foot, a college coach who's methods made multiple 3rd tier schools a powerhouses of distance running.

The relevant point here is, it looks at common running injuries and more or less points to the fact that modern cushioned and motion control running shoes CAUSE injury, rather than prevent it. It's a compelling case for running in the 5-finger or similar unstructured "shoes".
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2011 - 02:19pm PT
I just read this book as well and would recommend it to all. It's an eyeopener.

it was talking with Mike and reading that book that got me into exploring the 5 finger thing.

Another interesting tangent in that book is that he suggests that Castaneda was really talking about the Tarahumara. That having Don Juan be a Yaqui was a smokescreen. It makes sense in my experience, I used to live near a Yaqui town (Guadalupe, Az)and they didn't strike me the way Carlos described them. For one thing they're catholic and have no tradition of shamans/Brujos...


Here's the quote, From Born to run;

"Carlos Castaneda, author of the wildly popular Don Juan books of the 60s was almost unquestionably referring to the Tarahumera when he described magical Mexican shamans with astonishing wisdom and endurance. But in ab apparent twinge of Compassion dekiberately misidentified the tribe as the Yaquis. Castaneda apparently felt that, in the event that his books launched an invasion of peyote-hungry hippies, the badass Yaquis could hold their own a lot better than the gentle Tarahumara."
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 02:27pm PT
Seconding the post about the importance of rest and recovery. Yesterday skied 15k, did some speed pickups (12 sec) and then two sets of 30X30's. Then got a massage, which I haven't done since the early 90's. Slept deeper and longer than usual, and am chilling today. Sunday is the big Gold Rush marathon ski race, and we are supposed to get dumped on for the next 4 days.

I do need to shovel the 3 feet off the deck before the next 7 feet come in, now shoveling "up" as the adjacent slopes have about 12 feet on them! But I am doing it in small shifts to keep the abs and back from tiring.

Eating yams and drinking water and getting ready to SLAM (skate like a maniac) on Sunday morning in a blizzard.

Peter
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 18, 2011 - 05:19pm PT
5.33 Miles in 64 minutes on the Stairmaster. Little slower than yesterday:-(
Mees

climber
Mar 18, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
Beware of the minimal shoes and five finger things. They take getting used to, if you don't work into them gradually you'll increase your chances of injury quite a bit, especially if you run on hard surfaces. I've seen it happen to several folks. Personally, I'd recommend just staying off the pavement and run on softer surfaces, with regualar running shoes but to each their own like anything else. A lot of 3rd world runners run bare foot and do very well, thing is they lived walked/ran bare foot all their lives and their feet, legs etc are used to it. Most americans don't grow up going bare foot. Another benefit of the minimal shoe is to encourage mid heel striking rather than heel striking, something you can work on if you practice it.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 18, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
Another interesting tangent in that book is that he suggests that Castaneda was really talking about the Tarahumara. That having Don Juan be a Yaqui was a smokescreen. It makes sense in my experience, I used to live near a Yaqui town (Guadalupe, Az)and they didn't strike me the way Carlos described them. For one thing they're catholic and have no tradition of shamans/Brujos...

There may not have been any Curanderos practicing among the Yaqui you knew in Guadalupe, but there are definitely Yaqui shamanic traditions. The Yaqui synthesis of indigenous and Catholic tradition is pretty amazing, and you're right, it doesn't much resemble anything Castaneda describes. This is a piece from 1980:

http://parentseyes.arizona.edu/southcorner/curandero.html

This Pascua Yaqui site has really nice links to Yaqui docs and oral literature collections, including Lary Evers's South Corner of Time and this great issue of JSW:

http://parentseyes.arizona.edu/journalofthesw/index.html

Castaneda has long since been revealed as a fraud. During the period he claimed to have been in Mexico, UCLA Library logs show that he was sitting in the LIbrary reading books about peyote and shamanism. His works are cut-and-pasted from other people's work on a wide array of different indigenous traditions. And some of the are just fabrications.

Doesn't mean that you can't learn about running from the Tarahumara, just that you can't get there from Carlos.



steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
Mountain bike, 20 miles, all rocky single track.
Down 21.5 lbs, 7.5 to go.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2011 - 11:54pm PT
Fascinating, thanks Kerwin. I always thought Carlos' stuff was not as it appeared, and wondered how much was what. But I never knew much about Yaqui tradition besides what was conducted locally, where I was then, twenty odd years ago...

I think it's more, inspired by, my own construct of, the Tarahumara...
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:13am PT
I managed to up both the reps and weight loads on my health club pumping-iron circuit training today. Up by 20 pounds and 3 more reps on the leg presses and an additional set of 18 reps; up by 15 pounds on the flyes. Up by 10 pounds on the triceps machine and up by 5 reps on both torso-twist machine and at max of weight that I use on abdominal crunches. Pretty sore tonight!

Took two 1 mile walks today; once before workout and another after workout.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:15pm PT
always wanted to go to tarahumara country.
Pewf

climber
nederland
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:31pm PT
Pulled chariot + child on mtn bike for maybe an hour and a half. Discovered half way through that releasing hand brake on trailer would improve performance.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 01:37pm PT
OT, so KLK I've been thinking about the Tarahumara and parallels with the Stolbisti. The first an isolated group in Mexico with a tradition of extreme running, and the other isolated in Siberia with a tradition of bold free soloing (okay, now it's about climbing). Is it the isolation and opportunity that does it? There must be other similar obsessive traditions that have evolved other places and in history. Got any stories?
I'd love to discover that the Shoshoni invented the invert....


Meanwhile, On Topic;

Raining "like a tall cow pissing on a flat rock" here. The trails are a sheet silicate nightmare, in my hood currently. i think after I finish my taxes to I'm going to put on some wet weather armor and run the paved bicycle trail loop in a bit. Real running shoes and everything...



Pewf, at least it's probably a better workout with the trailer wheels locked up!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:56pm PT
yeah, the stolby deal is pretty amazing, i'd like to know a lot more about that history, along with some of the other indignous history in places like the urals and caucasus.

of course, other isolated, rural populations also develop distinctive cultural practices, like taking lots of drugs, elaborating conspiracy theories, and posting on the internet.

the castaneda thing was part of the oral legend of u of arizona and then also ucla. sort of a sad story, really, especially for the yaqui who now are "known" to americans largely as the objects of castaneda's drug-addled fantasies. but it was also a disaster for anthro and especially ed spicer, a really good anthropologist who stuck his neck out for castaneda and vouched for him. it was a disaster when the hoax was basically revealed-- a black eye for spicer and his program and a disaster for the sort of young turk wing of anthro that had been strongly influenced by youth culture.

it's one of the reasons that many ethnolinguists became much more careful about the way they approached native oral literature, which is a good thing. lary and felipe's treatment of the yaqui testamento in that special issue of jsw is a good example. a very respectful and judicious historical introduction, then photos of the original doc; transcription of the yaqui version; and then careful spanish and english translations.

and it's great running, hiking, climbing country so not entirely ot.

heh.
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Mar 19, 2011 - 03:03pm PT
Let's not forget these guys:

http://www.amazon.com/Marathon-Monks-Mount-Hiei/dp/0877734151
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Mar 19, 2011 - 03:37pm PT
I just did my first run of the year. 4 1/2 mile trail run barefoot.

It's the only way I run. I do most of my hiking barefoot too.

Tough Feet!
eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Mar 19, 2011 - 03:41pm PT
90 minutes behind a grain shovel.

WRECKED!

Would rather have broken trail in CascadianConcrete, ON SKATING SKIS, but. . . we don't always get it our way!

:-)

Whew.

eKat
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 04:10pm PT
I'd like to know more about the marathon monks, but @$356, I think i'll have to stay in the dark....
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:19pm PT
Born to run was almost infuriating in it's omission of Jim Dunlop, an ultra runner active in the races involving tarahumara indians. You may recall the "man against horse" segment of the book? The author goes into great detail about two guys who beat the horses, but makes no mention whatsoever of the first man in the race's 80 some odd year history to beat the horses just a couple years before the two guys it focused on. Kinda strange.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:19pm PT
5.60 miles in 60 minutes on the Stairmaster today.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:31pm PT
I'd like to know more about the marathon monks, but @$356, I think i'll have to stay in the dark....

the wages of poverty is ignorance . . . .

heh
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:35pm PT
I'd like to know more about the marathon monks, but @$356, I think i'll have to stay in the dark....

There are used copies at 60$. A bit steep but not unreasonable.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:43pm PT
yeah, i'm with jaybro, not dropping 60 bucks on a book from that press.

anyone read this? it has one essay by martha nussbaum who is a really serious scholar.

http://www.amazon.com/Running-Philosophy-Marathon-Mind-Everyone/dp/1405167971/ref=pd_sim_b_3

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 07:07pm PT
9 wet bicycle trail miles in full-on white guy running shoes....
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 19, 2011 - 07:21pm PT
47min hills & stairs with WATER COMING OUT OF THE SKY.
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Mar 19, 2011 - 08:40pm PT
[quote]anyone read this? it has one essay by martha nussbaum who is a really serious scholar.

http://www.amazon.com/Running-Philosophy-Marathon-Mind-Everyone/dp/1405167971/ref=pd_sim_b_3[/quote]

Yeah, Kerwin. I've read and even possess that work.

Unfortunately it's buried in storage, and I can't remember too many particulars about it. It was interesting enough that I kept it, which is saying something given my recent move and the attendant book purging. There were some interesting insights, but there was nothing ground-breaking about it. It was just interesting to read some other thoughts on an activity that I happen to - yes, I admit it - love.

I don't remember the Nussbaum article being any deeper than the others, but again I haven't looked at the work recently to check my marginal notations.

No running today. Bloody pissing outside!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 21, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
8 mile ski for lunch up to Long Lake this afternoon.



Resting heart rate so far averaging about 45


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 12:27am PT
I tried.
I went to my usual trailhead, painstakingly got my feet into the 5 fingers, toe by toe. Deployed ipod, and set out...
Got about thirty feet, just too muddy.

I'll try again, tomorrow.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 22, 2011 - 12:30am PT
Can't you get a flipper attachment for those things?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 22, 2011 - 12:48am PT
Conflicted. Just some yoga today. This is supposed to be my 2 weeks off between training cycles. Will probably still do some ridiculously easy spinning on the bike and very light moving iron around to get some blood moving, kind of a "recovery ride" for the full-body.

It's so much easier when I can just go to the climbing gym/weightroom/bike/hangboard and just punish myself for an hour or two. Resting is hard.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 12:57am PT
NO rest for the wicked!
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 22, 2011 - 04:38am PT
Yesterday rode from my house to Dover (27 miles) on the cycle route 16, through some lovely 12th century villages. Had a brie and cranberry granary bap, a banoffee pie and two lattes. Then, rode back to canterbury on the North Downs Way, an old pilgrim route through the fields. Highlights include riding down a steep driveway into a dead end front yard with an Irish Wolfhound so big I thought it was a pony. He was friendly though.
Good day.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:06am PT
Good try Jay. Better luck today. I'm Foggy-headed, downing cups of coffee for short changing myself sleep, and to set out any minute, hoping to see the sunrise behind mt. Diablo... those brie and jam baked goods suound great tho prolly best for me not to have anything like that as I'm only shooting for 35 Minutes just to manipulate myself to begin. Did that last week and went over an hour, and another day 40 minutes. So we'll see... this ... good morn'n....
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:51am PT
got my Aerobic workout in this morning...right after my Meditation Morphine. Ho Man I'm pumped.
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Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 10:53am PT
Where do you go Susu?
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Mar 22, 2011 - 11:26am PT
Did a 45 minute endurance training vid on my bike (on a fluid trainer) on Sunday and lifted weights yesterday. Bike again today and weights again the day after that. Repeat and repeat and repeat until the trails dry off and I can ride outside.

I've been submerging my arms up to the middle of my biceps in ice cold water for 10 minutes after every workout to try to get more blood to my elbows and heal them. So far so good. Eccentric exercises in addition to that. It's working, I'm psyched.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 22, 2011 - 11:28am PT
Yo Steve,

What is up with you? Hope it is a short stay and you are okay!

Peter
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 22, 2011 - 03:22pm PT
Jay, So far around our neighborhood bike trails. Helps to go when I first wake so I actually get her done in time to get to work or before anything else can get in the way, plus it feels like I'm still dreaming and hurts less. Here are some shots with my phone from the jogs. Where do you go?
Today
Today
Credit: susu
weeks ago
weeks ago
Credit: susu
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 22, 2011 - 09:49pm PT
45min.
Nautilus circuit->rowing machine.
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:10pm PT
After you polish off the WideFetish 'weak and flaccid dog' challenge and windsprints in five-toed socks, check out my man Hannibal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfsTKfUT-RQ A thing or two could be learned in the playground then applied on big stone. Right around 2:05 it starts to get interesting (!)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
3 mile, 5finger run on th einspiration pt trail (paved) in Tilden. Not a tarahumera, yagui, Stolbyite, no monks,marathon or karate, in sight! ( after BIW, ten lame (on my part) 'pitches' & 160 Pullups).

Susu I generally run on the Briones-MtDiablo trail and varients, from the Indian valley school trailhead. But also on the canal bike trail in the Pleasant hill BART, Heather farms/Bancroft/ygnacio valley area.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:25pm PT
1:16 on the mountain bike. Legs still shot from Sunday's 30 mile road ride.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:31pm PT
6 mile run. Texas humidity is already getting bad.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
30 miler on the bike yesterday then winter came back today and the skis came out for a 10 mile xc, breaking trail through velvet powder most of the way in a whiteout. I'm about ready for summertime.

S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:28pm PT
4 mile run around the hood. Already in the upper 80's, boo!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:32pm PT
2 hr. 43 minute drive from Indian Creek to Ouray, just got in- puff, puff!
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:38pm PT
Too funny JD.

5 each 30 minute aerobic sessions, 20 mile bike ride Mon - Thursday.

Still laughing puff, puff :)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
Slacker, it's not that far...


Too wet for me today, 83 pullups and I'm calling it good. going for sushi!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 24, 2011 - 09:00pm PT
Aerobic and anaerobic Shoveling!!!

Snuck in a great intensity skate ski workout on Tuesday afternoon right
Before the great blizzard hit. 4 x 4 minutes @ level 4. Hoping for skiable
Weather at the mammoth marathon next week.

Peter
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 24, 2011 - 10:53pm PT
3 days in a row of 1 hour of cardio, plus hours climbing (in the gym :( ), today will do a 2 hour cardio session...

83 pullups?? How often do you do that Jaybro? How many reps per set do you do?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 25, 2011 - 02:04am PT
Back from my 2 hour cardio...1670 calories burned according to those things...time to eat chocolate pudding and doughnuts
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2011 - 02:12am PT
Train to eat!

today was 6 sets, but it varies.
scuffy b

climber
dissected alluvial deposits, late Pleistocene
Mar 25, 2011 - 12:10pm PT
I may have done 83 pullups this century, but I couldn't guarantee that.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 25, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
My friend does 90 pullups a day every day (I think he divides it into 3 sessions of something like 3 sets by 10 reps), and he climbs very well.

I am more of a new (climbed for almost a year) to climbing (not new to working out) and want to improve my grip strength etc. So would doing a load of pull ups every day or every other day help? How often should I do pull ups for them to be useful (over-training is bad too!)?
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 25, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
Doing a bunch of pull ups wont make you a better climber, it will just make you better at pull ups. There are plenty of high level climbers who can't do 30 pull ups. On the opposite end, I can crank out 100 pull ups, and I climb like sh#t.

Some people are genetic freaks, but for most, doing 90 pull ups everyday would just be a quick road to elbow tendonitis. Determining how much is over training is highly individual; everyone's body adapts differently. If I do high reps of pull ups more that a couple of times a week, my elbows feel it. For others, like your buddy, it sounds like its no problem. You'll just need to figure it out for yourself.

Obviously, anything that will make you stronger or more fit will improve your climbing, but only to a degree. Its more important to develop technique and strength thats specific to climbing. If you want to get stronger for climbing, rather than just strong, you'd see more gains from a hangboard regimen or time in the climbing gym. Given that you are fairly new to climbing, I would be careful with the hangboard though. Its easy to get over-psyched, over train, and get injured.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 25, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
4mi run hills/stairs, 2hrs climbing gym, *-ups, including a mere 15+10 pull-ups.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 25, 2011 - 08:23pm PT
today's my first day in weeks not fully sick. i might get to climb tomorrow.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
5 miles paved, 5 fingers barely enough rain to escape the bill of a wide fetish hat and smear my glasses...


Well said, Cho!

When i climbed my best I could do a lot of pullups. So when I can do a lot of pullups it puts me in that mindset. More of a ritual then direct carry over, there are times it seems to help directly, though.

100 in one set, Steve? yow!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 25, 2011 - 11:16pm PT
12.2 miles on the mountain bike... the catch was the 3120 feet of elevation gain. Two margs down so I don't care at this point.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 26, 2011 - 12:22am PT
I am in awe of people who do high volume pull ups. My right elbow flares up if I do too many of them, even assisted with a band.
No time for cardio today so I did 21-15-9 reps of heavy deadlifts, moderate overhead squats, for time. That burned forearms AND grip in just under 11 minutes.
I find being able to do pullups useful when bouldering in the gym, where I need to match on a hold, chin up to it then lock off one arm and then hopefully reach the next hold with the other arm.
I am nowhere near trying that move outside, on lead, mind you ;)
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 26, 2011 - 11:44am PT
Ha! In one set? No, not even close. My record for unbroken kipping/butterfly pullups is just over 30. 31 or 32 I think. Strict pullups, around 25 or so.

Got 3 CF workouts in this week. One had 81 pullups in it. It was 100 ft of walking lunges followed by 21 pullups and 21 sit ups. The next set was 100 ft of walking lunges followed by 18 pullups and 18 sit ups. The same sequence repeated itself with the pu's and su's decreasing by 3 each time. The final set was 6 of each. It took me just over 10 min.

There's a somewhat obscure fist crack that widens into arm bars somewhere in the desert calling my name for today. Tomorrow is tbd still.

Whoa Lisa. 21-15-9 of dead lifts & oh squats? Sounds like a brutal combo!
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Mar 26, 2011 - 12:45pm PT
6 new feet of snow in Truckee. My workouts have been snow blowing and shoveling. I did get in 3 x

Gym Jones workouts in my garage gym this week.

http://www.garagegymtraining.com/

Looking forward to great spring skiing!!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 01:03pm PT
It is spring, isn't it?

I think long wide are cracks are perfect cardio exercises, take the Steck Salathe, for example....


Not wide, but i led and then toproped quarter of a man three times in rapid succession once in an effort to train climbing muscle groups in an aerobic mode....
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:05pm PT
last night was my first night in 3 weeks w/o nyquil.

but it still hurts to breath.

f*#k this sh#t, i'm ready for the desert.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 01:07pm PT
Kerwin, we're Indian Creek bound next week. Join us! call in sick, they'll believe you!

Here's some motivation
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?fbid=1688928855805&id=1015216730&aid=2085855
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:09pm PT
Dude, I'll climb with you man! In the desert, that is. I'll be down there around late April/Early May..

Yesterday, I rode to Sandwich on the Saxon Shore way (not recommended) and then back on cycle route 1. Barely made it back before sunset!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:14pm PT
appropriately, that link gives me:

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But I have some hope of getting at least a day in Flag in a couple of weeks. That seems about right at the moment-- park 30 feet away from Carnivore and pop the cooler.

I'm in the worst aerobic shape I've been in for years.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 01:17pm PT
You can navigate there on FB pamela pack-Leavitation generation

the ebb and the flow, it happens to all of us, you'll be back.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:21pm PT
yeah, i escaped the bataan death march w/o any tendon or cartilage injuries, so i'll climb ok soon enough.

the lungs will take longer. fortunately, it looks like this season there's going to be plenty of time to train down low.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:38pm PT
Alright I am crying uncle!! Still dumping, been housebound since Tuesday, except for epic shovel sessions! Power just went out again. I am going to dig out the car one more time and drive down to truckee and hopefully get in a good ski workout at Tahoe Donner. Oh how I am wanting to climb in a warm dry desert right now!

Peter
okie

Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:39pm PT
Lead + 3 laps on the Quarter of a Man??? Gravity has less effect on the Jaybro climbing cyborg.

Just got back from there. I need more endurance. I like the Wide, but 40 meters of it? Really?

My plantar fasciitus has returned after an absence of over a decade so I've had to back off a bit on the running. So do I need more support...or less...Those five fingers are ok until you land on something pointy on the trail.

Running is the King of all the exercises. It's elemental, more than an exercise, sort of like climbing is more than a sport.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 04:15pm PT
Peter, make a roadtrip to the lowlands and climb with us @ PGSF tomorrow! You're proabaly Too fit, anyway...

Okie, that was like ten years ago when I was just a wee sprout of an old guy, near the end of a 10 weeks stay, when I had it pretty wired, was climbing a lot, etc...
Did I miss a trip report?
injuries bite, running rules, but has it's drawbacks...
okie

Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
Mar 26, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
I sent you photos, Jay. That OW at the Beach is something I think you'll really dig.

-Bob
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 26, 2011 - 11:03pm PT
Shovelling snow is quite a workout and demands efficiency as well as endurance so if that is 'all' you did that is PLENTY!!!
Did a back country tour on Mt. Washington today (in NH). Stayed below tree line due to high winds and avy risk. I like to earn my turns and skiing on top of the deadlifts/squats yesterday worked out the kinks in my legs.
Tomorrow - running/biking/Crossfit/bouldering. Does that count as a 'brick' in triathlonspeak?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
Monday, another weird week in the life...

5 muddy trail miles, regular shoes ( Sportiva crosslites) Briones-M Diablo trail.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 28, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
6mi flat, dry-ish trail at Sawyer Camp.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 28, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
i did about 1/2 of my i-rock warmup then walked five minutes to eat chili. then i walked back five minutes.

it was uphill.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Mar 28, 2011 - 10:30pm PT
First day of warm weather and a 6 mile run above the Yuba River. The waterfalls were spectacular, the wild flowers peaking out and the wild and scenic Yuba was flowing with BIG water. A fine morning indeed. Fly the border collie probabally put in 10 miles to my 6.

"Magpie over Buckeye Creek"  30"x40"  Oil on Canvas
"Magpie over Buckeye Creek" 30"x40" Oil on Canvas
Credit: Mtnmun
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 28, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
ran 3 miles today. nice and cool 52 degrees, aaaahhhhhh

p90x plyometrics on saturday
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 28, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
trained legs today hit 235 x5 front squats


hopefully I'll front squat 315 by the end of the year.

Then did 30 minutes of racquetball.


Jaybro,



My highest max pullups was in the low 30's



I do weighted pullups and chins these days. The heaviest being 90lbs x3 for chins.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2011 - 12:41am PT
A long time ago I used to do heavily weighted pullups, like 70-80 lbs ib for very similar numbers of reps. I'm thinking about starting up again more modestly. I've got a 20 lb weight vest. Maybe i'll see how that feels on my Sr citizen elbows, and take it from there....
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:01am PT
Used to do 3 sets of 6 reps w/70lb added (at 140 bodyweight), a different grip on each set...normal, on parallel bars, and w/triceps pushdown rope attachment thrown over a bar. Oddly, never bothered my elbows at all, whereas bodyweight max-numbers sets wreck my elbows if I do more than a set.

My two weeks off from training ends on Wed. Yes!!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:08am PT
sorry but weighted pull-ups are close to useless.

i did them for several years. they're sort of fun, because in a bodybuilding/powerlifting gym, you can blow away all the roid ragers who bench 700.

but if yr elbows are that healthy, gill is right, climb the rope. then rope with weight. then one arms with small chunks of weight.

bar chins force yr elbows through a tweak zone, and the weights make it massively worse, esp. on the negatives. and there's not much upside. not a skill you really use anywhere.

if yr determined to do it, for the fun, then do it on rings or something where yr arms can swivel so you are less likely to do massive tendon damage.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 29, 2011 - 06:06am PT
Good advice Kerwin.
Two days ago I ran for a few hours in the hills around my house which felt great, then yesterday I went on a ride from my house down to Sandwich, then up the coast around Ramsgate, Margate, Broadstairs, Whitstable, and back to my house. About 72 ish miles. Here's some pics.
Singletrack self portrait early in the day. Spring has sprung!

Major thatching.

Old port town of Sandwich.

Sandwich. Too narrow for cars.

Grape Hyacinth on the bike path.

Cooling towers at a long abandoned coal power plant.

I didn't have the heart to tell those old people that their car only had three wheels. They'll figure it out.

Bike path toward Ramsgate.

Reproduction of a viking warship. I'm sure it's fairly accurate and all, but I doubt the vikings would take their "black pig" into battle with the equivalent of a pokemon/japanimation dragon on the bow..

Ramsgate port.

Typical riding along the chalk cliffs of the seafront. The vast majority of my training miles look like this.

Broadstairs, where Charles Dickens lived.

Speak of the devil! Here's his house.

Joss Bay, where the surfing is (normally).

Castle at Joss Bay.

Old fort on a golf course.

Chalk graffiti. I guess someone knows Sean.

Reculver. Old Roman fort.



More reculver.

Minnis Bay.

Red sun setting as I'm finishing the last five miles to my house.

klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
wow, ben, nice.

looks like yr having amazing weather
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:47pm PT
My aerobic workouts are about to increase, I'm leaving in one hour for the San Rafael Swell, 245 miles of driving coming up- puff, puff.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 29, 2011 - 02:11pm PT
Indeed, K. It went from crappy to amazing in the space of mere days. I was walking around the pear orchards by my house today in shorts and sandals!
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 29, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
Fantastic Wildone.
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 29, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
Don't pull a hammy Mr.Donini. You certainly log more miles than anyone I know, sounds like the good life for sure.
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 29, 2011 - 05:46pm PT
Jaybro,


I find a dip belt around the waist helps alot. Thats what bachar recommended. He also advocated weighted pullups. Heavy weighted pull-ups don't hurt my elbows, high reps do.



Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2011 - 01:15am PT
Anaerobic day. Gym pitches, 100 pullups, 90 dips a bunch of weights. Running tomorrow, early,gonna be 83. I love weighted pullups*, but It would take a lot more than that to catch Bachar...

What's a "dip belt"?
Nice shots Wildone, way to 'smell the roses' while working out aerobically!

are you an East bay guy Vitally



*Once did two with a 110 woman on my back, might have done more, but she distracted me....
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 30, 2011 - 01:21am PT
on Sunday did the 4 summit loop on Mt Diablo(supposedly 5000ft of elevation gain), most of it with 5.5 gallons of weight in my pack for training. Monday and tuesday had hour sessions on stationary bike..
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 30, 2011 - 10:44am PT
Jaybro,


Its a belt with a chain that allows the weight to hang between your legs.




LOL, yeah getting on bachar's level is nearly impossible. Still that doesn't stop up from training hard and trying to get better. I do miss JB on these forums.


I think bachar's one rep max for weighted pullups was 150#'s...dayum!


The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 30, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
150# weighted pullup? That would be me lifting (a little more than) me. Amazing.
I did short steep hill repeats last night, which are hell on the lungs but not on the legs, strangely.
Upper body is trashed from two days in a row of high volume pullups, dips and heavy barbell thrusters so I will just run the office building stairs tonight.
Waiting for the weekend so I can hit the trail and get away from concrete and asphalt underfoot :)

Wildone, your photos are beautiful - what lovely scenery to bike through.
eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Mar 30, 2011 - 06:20pm PT
There's that WildOneDad STILL having the time of his life!

OX

eKat
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 30, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
Always seemed strange to me how many climbers emphasize upper arm/lat strength when training away from the rock. Yet they generally ignore a whole wacky world of grip strength out there, in which people do the most ridiculous things like break brand-new pliers by squeezing them, tearing the Houston phone book into 3 pieces lengthwise--wrapped in duct tape, rip the corner of a loose deck of vinyl-coated playing cards. Finger board--all you need...

Hard crack machines seem to translate well. Heard they used to line them with old blue jeans near Laramie, that so Jaybro?

I think dips provide more value for actual climbing than full-range weighted pullups. Maybe partial reps with more weight would be more applicable, as in skinny high jumpers backsquatting 1000 lbs for 1/4s. Easier on your rotator cuffs and elbows.

nice photos.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 30, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
very jealous, jaybro!

and part of the fun of training is just, well, the fun of training.

if pullups float yr boat, there's worse ways to pass the time. i periodically try to at least do a quick muscle-up and lever on the rings just to make sure i still can. but i honestly miss doing rings and rope as a regular part of my workouts, even though the carryover to climbing was fairly limited.

aerobics-- the short walk i did yesterday almost killed me. just tried to do 40 ft of traverse in the gym and almost hucked a lung.

glad the warm weather is here, it'd be nice to get out from under the walking pneumonia or whatevertf i ended up with.

gonna be all short approaches in jt
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2011 - 07:27pm PT
Pullups are largely about pullups, but I like pullups.

And yeah I'm pretty sure Bob had a jean-lined crack machine.
And yeah KLK there are worse ways to spend a josh troop that having one with short approachs!

Rest day for me today, trip prep. Maybe a couple weighted pullups before the big bald head disappears behind the boulevard.
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 30, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
had bad pneumonia in 2001 in a Venezuelan jungle.
very good doc, was insistent that I use, hourly, one of those lung exercisers where you raise the balls as soon as he saw me.
When the nurse tested my lung capacity, she said "is that all you can do?"

If you climb at BIW, try the big anchor chain I provided them. It's 65# and progressively adds weight to you as you pull up.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2011 - 08:37pm PT
Wow! What a sickly obsessive idea!
i've seen that chain there, I think I just didn't get it.

Oh and, Spirometer?
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 30, 2011 - 09:12pm PT
yeah, that's it.

I didn't use the chain much, so there it is for all to drag upwards. Hits you in that upper range, but eases off as you lower, is the idea. Sort of the opposite of the partials I was speculating on above.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Mar 30, 2011 - 09:36pm PT
good day. end of the driveway today. felt solid but had to rest at the mailbox.
10x10 on the incentive spirometer and a solid hour of lap steel.
if I can keep up this pace, I might have to put some pants on ..
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murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 31, 2011 - 01:03am PT
Nice going, Wade. Dunno your sitch, but hope all is going as it should.

Today, 4mi flat, along Ocean Beach.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 31, 2011 - 01:10am PT
ARC on the wall. 1x 30min, 1x 20min
rhyang

climber
SJC
Mar 31, 2011 - 01:24am PT
10 mile hike after work in the Santa Cruz mountains above Los Altos, 2400' elevation gain. Saw a baby rattlesnake, pretty cool.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 31, 2011 - 04:48am PT
Yesterday, 70+ mile ride in the hills, torrentialrain and headwind, to get to a particular PC World that had a particular digital camera on sale for 35 quid so my girlfriend can give it away in Cameroon after she's done with her fieldwork. Miserable, miserable ride. My hands didn't work for almost an hour after getting home. Couldn't undo the velcro on my bike shoes or undo the fastex buckle on the chest strap of my back pack. Literally had to unbuckle it between the bones of my wrists.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:37am PT
Spent 8 hours on skis yesterday doing my part to leverage aerobic nordic skiing opportunities for many others. I was a certification examiner for the PSIA Instructors exam, 7 candidates going for certification hailing from Mammoth, Northstar, Mt. Shasta, Bear Valley, and Royal Gorge. So the quality of cross country instruction continues to improve, and hundreds of people will benefit aerobically! I was pretty tired from all the demos and all the focused observation. Resting up now for the Mammoth Marathon.
(Hi Ben!)
Peter
sullly

Trad climber
CA
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:45am PT
4 miles in flat neighborhood.
Rhyang, Rancho San Antonio? Great place to run and hike. Much better than Dish.
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:56am PT
Here's a good site for training for climbing.
http://climbstrong.wordpress.com/about/
okie

Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
Mar 31, 2011 - 09:31am PT
Geriatric-paced 5am run. The hour of the Tiger.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2011 - 09:38am PT
i'm getting ready for a geriatric run myself. Don't want to be too tired when I'm resting up for my nap...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2011 - 08:14pm PT
6 mile 5 finger trail run. The highlight was 2 Rattlesnakes on the trail in different spots, right here in Walnut Creek! I mean, Wolf City!
The low point was that something poped about mile four, in my right calf... This happened a week ago on a run of the same length that was paved. in between I squeezed in a five mile trail run in full on White Man Running Shoes (FOWMRS) with no problem. Going to dial back the 5 fingers for the next few...
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:17pm PT
3 mile run through the 'hood
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:21pm PT
2 Rattlesnakes on the trail in different spots

can the ticks be far behind?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:43pm PT
The ticks might be on your behind...rj
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:46pm PT
^^^^^^^

apparently so




heh
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 31, 2011 - 09:13pm PT
Yesterday, ~ 9 miles and ~ 2700' of breaking trail through the sludge and chowder, half of which I was loaded down with camera gear. Looking for bunny poo in the Carson Range.

White-tailed Jackrabbit pellets on Genoa Peak
White-tailed Jackrabbit pellets on Genoa Peak
Credit: Willoughby

These rabbits take in some pretty sweet scenery:

TrailMaster setup near the South Camp Peak mine.
TrailMaster setup near the South Camp Peak mine.
Credit: Willoughby




Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2011 - 09:31pm PT
How's that foot these days, that was you wasn't it?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 31, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
1hr 5m elliptical+bike @ steady 70-72% maxhr.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 1, 2011 - 12:07am PT
Busy week... 21 mile mtb ride, 3 mile run, 12 mi mtb ride (11.3 mph avg speed for the ride on rocky single track) then another 3 mile run with the mutt. Took today off... 'nut her long mtb ride coming up tomorrow.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Apr 1, 2011 - 12:34am PT
Added a few miles to the bank account today...

This is ~5 yrs...

~5 yrs, a few hills, 1/2 million calories...
~5 yrs, a few hills, 1/2 million calories...
Credit: JLP
rhyang

climber
SJC
Apr 1, 2011 - 12:50am PT
Rhyang, Rancho San Antonio? Great place to run and hike.

I agree, though I was a bit north of there -- headed up Black Mountain (2812') in Monte Bello OSP.
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Apr 1, 2011 - 10:19am PT
can the ticks be far behind?

I've never picked up a tick while running.

Have they gotten worse in the ten years I've been gone from the Bay?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2011 - 10:54am PT
I've actually never acquired a tick in the Bay Area. Everywhere else though.....
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 1, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
Jaybro, how is your calf feeling today? I am easying into Vibram's slowly -I walk and work out with them and do short runs on grass. I am so paranoid about injury to tendons and calves. They do feel so comfortable though.

I have been working a lot this week so very little mileage accomplished but I will be hitting the trails this weekend :) I am doing my first duathlon in May and will be practising transitions from bike to running and vice versa. I will be the gumby on a non-tri bike, no clips, and non-coordinating Lycra and will enjoy every minute of it. :)
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Apr 1, 2011 - 05:39pm PT
I just did my second barefoot run of the year today up Negro Bill Canyon. A 4 1/2 mile round trip. I've been doing a lot of barefoot hiking with a 40 lbs pack. My feet are getting tough.


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Lisa, non-coordinating Lycra Rules! Calf still sore. Taking it easy, packing and other wise getting ready for a road trip tomorrow. Packed all shoes. May be mainly working approaches for aerobix for a while, though there arr, killer trail runs in the desert.

Hoping to combine the Wind, pullups, and abs for obscure goals of more interest, on this site, than in the world at large...
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 1, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
Six or seven repeats of about half a block, trying out shoes at A Runner's Mind, a new-ish locally-owned running store in Burlingame (1199 Howard, http://www.arunnersmindbeyondthefit.blogspot.com/);. Great store, great stock, low-key and helpful salespeople, none of that Road Runner Sports ickiness.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 1, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
Great 20.5 mile mountain bike ride this afternoon.

Only saw two hikers the entire ride, and they were way down at the far end of the trail.

It was only 95 degrees... where'd all the desert weenies go?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2011 - 01:06am PT
Nice! Hey Greg, the forecast has improved in that place we were talking about!
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 2, 2011 - 01:48am PT
Hey Jaybro, thanks for asking. It's arthritic as hell. On the upside, the talus is still viable, so I haven't had to have the thing fused (yet). I got most of my mobility back though, and if I use it a bunch it definitely gets tougher. On the flipside, a couple weeks on the couch, followed by a big day, hobbles me up pretty bad. Cobble beaches or standing around all day on concrete are just about the worst. I feel each storm coming too, so March was rugged. But really I feel pretty lucky that I can even have big days, or walk for that matter.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2011 - 09:42am PT
All things considered that seems pretty good! was that TR here or on the Fetish? Sounds like ti forces you to stay active, that's not all bad!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 2, 2011 - 11:25am PT
JB - not looking too great for me. Looks like you might have a couple good days early in the week. Here's the 10-day hot off the presses...

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2011 - 11:39am PT
Bomber!


Really, close to ideal... I fear heat (anything over 65) raining but warm here in SLC tonight.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 2, 2011 - 03:08pm PT
7mi over SF's 4 most towering peaks, without supplementary oxygen.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 2, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
Jaybro, have a blast on your road trip and mind that calf. Do you roll it with a foam roller or lacrosse ball? Hurts like a mother but releases the tightness so you are good to go the next day.
Today I biked 30 miles (in NYC, so inhaling fumes offset any cardio value I am sure) but also did 5 rounds for time of 400m sprints, 5 moderately heavy back squats. Nice leg burner workout!
I am jealous of desert heat. It is only 45F or so here still. I love that dry desert heat....
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 2, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
Did 2.1 hours of cardio with just a bit over 2000 calories burned on thursday and friday with 1.5 hours of bouldering in addition : )
Had a nice day snowboarding in Sierra today till it started raining..hopefully sugaloufff tm
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2011 - 12:29am PT
I've actually been doing exactly that, Lisa! Though it's not a lacrosse ball per see.... 10.5 hrs driving today, 4 more tomorrow, and then, hopefully some climbing. Maybe a trail run in Arches if it's still raining.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 3, 2011 - 01:09am PT
5k run today... man, I was having a high gravity, bad joints day. Left ankle was not a happy camper. Be better tomorrow...
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Apr 3, 2011 - 04:57am PT
Just leaving my house, gonna ride down to Dover (27 ish miles) then back to my house along the Viking coast route. All told it will be around 100 miles. And it's a beautiful day, bike is cleaned and lubed, ipod is charged up, and calexico's "Carried to Dust" is the first album in the line-up today. Only ten more days in England, gotta take advantage of this weather!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:25pm PT
Wildone, is there a camera in your gear list too? It sounds beautiful.

We have lovely sunny weather this weekend. I ran a trail 10K in the Bronx this morning (surprised?) and had a blast. We did run through some burntout woods at one point which made me LOL. Not just cars anymore....

I finished in 53:06 which is a good time for me. I was first in my age group and won a whole carrot cake. Amazingly it survived the bike ride home.
Quality baked goods here!
Quality baked goods here!
Credit: The Lisa
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:39pm PT
Just got in, 97 miles by my addition. Bonked super hard about ten miles from the end, drank a coke from a seaside vendor, then a few miles later, popped into a pub for a pepsi. Just completely depleted my blood sugar, glucose, glycogen, etc. Made it home though. Treated this ride as a TT and pushed the pace pretty hard throughout. Took a bath with lavender oil, got a massage from my special lady friend with homemade balm of gilead from her cottonwoods in mt, drinking some local (like I can see the orchard out my window) kentish pear cider...feel pretty damn good. Got the lentil soup cooking right now. I'll be sleeping happily very soon.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:42pm PT
I loves me some carrot cake. That wouldn't have made onto the bike, much less all the way home.

Strength (hangboard) Fri, first session of the new phase/new cycle. I usually start with the prior phase's 3rd workout as a guideline. It's usually very close, you lose max strength and gain anaerobic endurance toward the peaking phase of the cycle, so retaining 20% of what you gained in the prior strength phase sounds depressing but is quite good over the long run (talking years). Felt good, could have possibly gone with the 4th workout from prior but better to start very slightly easier than ideal than to overdo it on first session.

1hr aerobic moving sheets of drywall yesterday, on the bike today as soon as I find my shorts. Nice cloudy and much cooler day in SoCal today, and nowhere near as windy as yesterday.

Who needs Crossfit when you've got Homefit? For time (had a day laborer on the clock): 30x repeats of carrying doubled sheets of 1/2"...squat, deadlift, bicep curl to tilt, farmerswalk, negative bicep curl to reverse tilt, reverse deadlift.
eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:53pm PT
Does shoveling snow count? How 'bout schlepping firewood?

WHEW!

eKat
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
Apr 3, 2011 - 04:24pm PT
I have tons of motivation and absolutely no discipline, so I'm incapable of doing anything aerobic on my own. Even had I the equipment, I'd never be able to do crossfit at home alone. But, unfortunately, I got talked into registering for the tough mudder in VT at the beginning of May.

So, despite the fact that I'm already a member of a $10/month gym that I go to like twice a month, I went and joined the fancy gym last week and I've been going to classes. That's the only way I get any work done: when I'm in a room with everyone else feeling like I'm totally being judged. [url="http://www.lesmills.com/Bodystep]Bodystep[/url] class has been really fun so far (especially because even if I wanted to half ass it, you can't really, or you'll fall off the step or something), but I went to a Bodypump class last Friday and it was hideous. I had no idea how much weight I should be putting on my bar so I figured first time out, better keep it light and easy and I just put on the same amount of weight as the saggy flabby 65 year old women in the class. Big mistake. By the end of class my triceps were so blown I couldn't even finish complete sets.

You'd think that ice climbing 40+ days this past season might have done something for me... but I guess not.

We'll see how it goes. Hand surgery on Thursday means no more bodypump class for a while for me, anyway!

Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 3, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
1hr on the bike. 7min Warmup->45min O2&Tempo ride w/ short hills @ 70%-82% MaxHR->8min cooldown.

Absolutely perfect weather for it. Enjoying my post-ride chocolate milk right now.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 3, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
29 miles on the road this morning... wind at 18 gusting to ??
I was having Kansas flashbacks. Still made it around in 1:28

Garmin gave me 2300 cals for the ride...
I figure the way things have been going, my weight will go up huge tomorrow!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 3, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
around the block and to the mailbox one crutch.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 3, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
Wildone, you stepped into a pub 'for a Pepsi'? I would have gone for a pint - calories and you float home unaware of any pain :) Great effort.

Homefit sounds like a tough workout! Lifting and carrying awkward stuff beats bicep curls in a gym any day.

Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 3, 2011 - 08:48pm PT
Mammoth Marathon today! 42k skate race. Interesting snow conditions spring corn with some cold powder blown onto the trail. Had a good race, my goal wa not to bonk as I have the last few times. Skied strong for the distance, finished 12th overall. Psyched for Owens Gorge tomorrow, before heading home.

Peter
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 3, 2011 - 09:50pm PT
Peter, congrats on finishing so well. I would love to do an XC ski race although my technique is poor and I would trash myself. How long does 42K take skating?
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 3, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
Lisa,
The winner did it in 2:01, very fast, he is a top US Team biathlete, 2nd place was a top Tahoe racer 7 minutes behind him, I was 22 minutes slower at 2:23. Nordic race times from day to day or race to race will vary greatly due to snow conditions.

Peter
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 4, 2011 - 01:05am PT
Congrats, Peter!

A little time in granny gear coming home from bouldering.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 4, 2011 - 09:56pm PT
9k "brisk" through the faculty ghetto; soon to head over to the CRUSHER show.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 4, 2011 - 10:13pm PT
Peter, good to know what fast times on skate skis means. I think I could build up to that, provided it was downhill all the way ;)

Aya, good luck with hand surgery. Sounds like a bad injury but at least you ice climbed all winter.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 5, 2011 - 10:49am PT
I've never picked up a tick while running.

Have they gotten worse in the ten years I've been gone from the Bay?


Worst tick episode Ive ever seen was on the east side of Diablo a few years ago on my favorite trail. Frickin Hitchcock scenario. Absolutely horrific, eons beyond anything I'd seen in years of living in tick country in other parts of the world.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 5, 2011 - 10:51am PT
Hoping to combine the Wind, pullups, and abs for obscure goals of more interest

Too obscure to mention? The love that dares not speak its name?

Let's see, there are at least two climbing scenarios I can think of for which aerobics, ab work, and weighted chins could possibly be functional training.

You're going on an expedition?

heh
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 5, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
5 k run
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 5, 2011 - 06:11pm PT
Had a nice 2hr 10min session of cardio yesterday, with 2623 calories burned. Than did 1.5 hours of bouldering.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 5, 2011 - 07:25pm PT
Finally got out on the mt. bike today. Good solid 45 min. of climbing and 15 min. of sweet downhill.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 5, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
Hangboard session yesterday. Today 1:10 aerobic consisting of 25min Antagonist/Abs circuit, 45min bike @ 70%-80% MaxHR.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2011 - 01:45pm PT
Canynlands jaunt sn....
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Apr 8, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
On a road trip to AZ so I got three consecutive days up Camelback in Scottsdale via the Cholla trail.
I love this as a cardio workout since you get a 10 minute warmup walk from parking to the trailhead and a 10 minute cool down on the way back.
Tuesday - 26:45 up - 22:12 down
Wednesday - 27:52 up - 19:45 down
Thursday - no running allowed today- 28:25 up 30:00 down.
Today - let the knees recover.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 8, 2011 - 01:59pm PT
Tue: 15min Antagonist & abs circuit->45min bike at 70%-80% maxHR
Wed: Rest
Thu: Hangboard
Today: antagonist & abs circuit->bike/elliptical/stairmaster (after work, we'll see which machines are funtioning, prefer the stairmaster but we only have one and it's fahq'd)
Pewf

climber
nederland
Apr 8, 2011 - 03:48pm PT
I'm super psyched, getting a good groove going with the "plus child" workouts (aerobic analog of weighted pullups?). She's keen on the bike rides and hikes as long as she gets to get out of the Chariot or backpack for a picnic and a bit of hiking on her own.

Trip to UT included

 Fisher Towers hike
 Road ride in Arches: part asphalt, part 4wd road
 Klondike bluffs ride: 4wd road, slickrock, single track
 Canyonlands ride: asphalt, gravel
 Canyonlands hikes: 5, 5, 12 miles

Back home now, despite shaky weather got in a trail ride down in Boulder between rainstorms. Going to ride over to some boulders this afternoon. Pulling the Chariot back through Nederland wind should compensate for the short mileage.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:48pm PT
Hand surgery yesterday means still quite a lot of pain today, esp whenthe hand is below heart level, so I guess I should take a few days off. Step class while all vicodin'ed up doesn't seem too bright anyhow.

I feel like a fat slacker though!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:51pm PT
PT, four blocks one crutch. fug that spirometer thing.
eKat

climber
http://www.ecokath.com/
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:54pm PT
Just about to pull the trigger on a pair of these:

photo not found
Missing photo ID#197579

They might not make me any faster, but I'm sure gonna LAUGH A LOT!

:-)

YAY!

Anytime you can make working out a CRACK UP, I say "JUST FRIKKEN GO FOR IT!"

eKat
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:54pm PT
Aya, just think of all the things you can do once your hand is 100% again. There are a number of movements you can do one-armed, or focussing only on lower body, but not while on Vicodin. Hope you get off that stuff quickly and can do modified workouts.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 9, 2011 - 09:31pm PT
9 or 10mi loop at Sweeney Ridge. Heal up you invalids, and way to go all.

blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 9, 2011 - 09:53pm PT
12 mile jog on dirt paths around my house.

Question for those of you who are knowledgeable runners/joggers:

I've had some foot pain for the past month or so that I'm pretty sure is plantar fasciitis. As with lots of these problems, it came on with increased mileage.

The pain is not that bad, so I am I being an idiot to continue jogging with some pain?
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 9, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
When I get a niggle like that (PF, ITB, achilles, etc.) that's not too bad, I take a day or two off, try a short, easy run and if it hurts, take more days off.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 9, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
Another Berthoud Pass ski lap out to Roberts Creek chutes.

Across the way, Current creek bench cornices, looks like one already dropped in the left of the photo.




Back side of School of Mines Peak, note crown in bottom right of photo :( not getting on that anytime soon.




Looking down upper Roberts drainage about 3,600 down to the road.




Rocking out afterward in Empire.



S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 11, 2011 - 01:04am PT
Did a crossfit workout on Saturday and I am still sore.
Too bad it cost 200 bucks a month.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 11, 2011 - 01:06am PT
Just about to pull the trigger on a pair of these:


YEAH! They're fast just sittin' there!
Credit: SwipedFromTheInTraWebs



They might not make me any faster, but I'm sure gonna LAUGH A LOT!

:-)

YAY!

Anytime you can make working out a CRACK UP, I say "JUST FRIKKEN GO FOR IT!"

eKat


you'll feel like you've dropped acid whenever you put them on.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Apr 11, 2011 - 01:10am PT
nominal bouldering session this afternoon.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 11, 2011 - 05:54pm PT
I ran 4 miles to manor Market and back this morning. Felt pretty good considering I used to hate running.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 11, 2011 - 08:58pm PT
5 or 6mi with first speed work in years. 3 "peppy" repeats of .82mi.
eKat

climber
BITD3
Apr 11, 2011 - 08:59pm PT
you'll feel like you've dropped acid whenever you put them on.

HA!

:-)

eKat
sullly

Trad climber
Apr 11, 2011 - 09:08pm PT
Four miles through West Egg.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 11, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
i did my taxes.

elevated my heart rate for quite some time.
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Apr 11, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
Just got back from my usual 8 miles or so on the hills around Terra Linda (Marin County, California).

Lovely weather.
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Apr 11, 2011 - 10:12pm PT
2 hr hike, better for my mind than my heart.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 11, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
Did a 9.5 mile tour around Mt. Washington on Saturday, including tagging the summit and skiing two ravines. Bluebird day and variable conditions, skiers and riders tomahawking down the headwall, peanut gallery cheering from Lunch Rocks - a wonderful day out :)
Tuckerman Ravine Headwall
Tuckerman Ravine Headwall
Credit: The Lisa

Upper Snowfields of Mt. Washington
Upper Snowfields of Mt. Washington
Credit: The Lisa
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 12, 2011 - 12:15am PT
4 blocks one crutch. pain meds halved.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 12, 2011 - 05:40pm PT
6 lap swim
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 12, 2011 - 07:29pm PT
25 rollypolly miles on the mtb, feels good to be back on the bike after 7 months off.

Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 12, 2011 - 09:34pm PT
OMG my legs hurt!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 12, 2011 - 10:24pm PT
30min antagonists circuit: 12 sets total (tris, delts, abs)->45min bike: 10mi, 2200ft gain, HR 70-80% max, high cadence (mid 90s).
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 12, 2011 - 10:35pm PT
19 mile mountain bike ride on Sunday. Throat was headed south, antibiotics yesterday, seems to be coming along. Should see Jaybro in the next few days roaming around the Creek. Taking the bike. Wanna ride the Slickrock.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 13, 2011 - 03:28pm PT
Wade, that sounds like great progress - increasing distance and reducing meds.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 13, 2011 - 03:30pm PT
I just took the rug out of my sportsmobile and put in the wash- does that count?
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Apr 13, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
That would depend on the distance between the sportsmobile and the washer.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2011 - 03:56pm PT
Nothing but approaches, last 10 days. 10-45, mins mostly uphill with 50+ lb pack





S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 13, 2011 - 05:11pm PT
3 mile skating. Really cutting down on meat, diary and all things refined.
eKat

climber
BITD3
Apr 13, 2011 - 05:24pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#198065

How 'bout an hour in this get up!

4.8mph PowerWalk in New New Balance 870 Rainbows that just so happen to match my ORIGINAL 1985 SportsWalkman and UltimateDirections fanny pack.

Everything old is NEW again!

:-)

These shooz make me LAUGH OUT LOUD!

YAY!

eKatLovinTheRainbowConnection
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 13, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
Day-hiked Mt. Shasta's Green Butte ridge in under 7 hours from Bunny Flat to Summit plateau on Saturday. Cold and FUN
eKat

climber
BITD3
Apr 13, 2011 - 05:51pm PT
YAY, Vitaliy M.

TheMountainShasta is PURE MAGIC!

:-)

eKat
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 13, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
Day-hiked Mt. Shasta's Green Butte ridge in under 7 hours from Bunny Flat to Summit plateau on Saturday. Cold and FUN

I wish we had mountains around here in Austin.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 13, 2011 - 10:54pm PT
4mi businesslike.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 13, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
326 mile drive to Boulder tomorrow replete with 100 ft. of round trip walking to get fish tacos in Carbondale.
sullly

Trad climber
Apr 14, 2011 - 12:28am PT
Parkline Slab Hayley Anna plus the two pitches after that Jeff put up. Rappelled down for one last pitch...met by hail after uncoiling rope. I'm not so bad on cracks after all.
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 14, 2011 - 12:32am PT
Weekly wednesday road ride
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2011 - 02:11am PT
20 minute power hike, and down.

Good thing I didn't take a bike!

Caz

Big Wall climber
Long Beach, CA.
Apr 14, 2011 - 02:42am PT
Started taking spin classes.Wow they kick my ass! I'm in a hurry to get ready for a century ride on the 1st....
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 15, 2011 - 05:46pm PT
3 mile run wiiiiiiiindy
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 16, 2011 - 07:46pm PT
30-mile road bike ride today, the second half in pouring rain and headwind, and I am almost positive it was all uphill too.
Still, it builds character and made the long hot shower all the more enjoyable, and this tequila extra enjoyable :)
Did a lot of barbell thrusters and box jumps today too so hamstrings will be feeling it tomorrow.

Wade Icey, how goes the crutching?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 16, 2011 - 07:49pm PT
Oh, and eKat, I meant to reply to your photo of AWESOME shoes. It is very cool you have the yellow Sony walkman too - they were the sh!t in the 80's.
How do the shoes feel - as great as they look?
Lisa
sullly

Trad climber
Apr 16, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
Five miles in laps around "lake" Lagunita.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 16, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
Bigger than average week, monday I summited Mt. Whitney after guiding a family up the Mountaineers route. We started on Saturday afternoon. Thursday I got to take a skate skiing clinic from the top three US Team skiers, very inspiring to see world cup skiers live! was the last Nordic race of the season, the 42k Goldrush. I felt a bit tired from Whitney, but had a decent race, last of the season, now very psyched to climb, and some backcountry skating, after some recovery.

Peter
eKat

climber
BITD3
Apr 16, 2011 - 09:24pm PT
How do the shoes feel - as great as they look?

Sista, those NewBalance870 Rainbows are WONDERFUL!

Light as a feather and just perfect with "Sole" insoles in them.

My left foot's a 9.5 and my right one's an 11.

NICE.

So, I have to run those thermo-fit "Sole" insoles to make everything line up right. . . the combo is perfect.

:-)

And. . . that YELLow WalkMan is a trip, eh? I have used that thing no fewer than 150 days a year - EVERY YEAR, since 1985 when it was new. It just keeps working.

YAY!

eKat
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 16, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Taste the rainbow!!
I bet no music device made these days will last as long as that walkman has. Will an iPod still be functioning in 20+ years?
eKat

climber
BITD3
Apr 16, 2011 - 09:46pm PT
Yeah, no kiddin'!

My sister bought me that WalkMan BITD and she's fully weirded out, not only by the fact that I still have it, but that it actually works and I use it so much.

She's SuzyFunBux and is suffering from a serious case of Affluenza. . . and she has given iPods to her grandkids EVERY YEAR since they came out. They don't even last a year.

WTFIUWT?

Crack me up!

:-)

eKat
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 16, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
12.5 mile trail jog. No problem for you cardio hogs but arse whupper for me.

At the risk of being a killjoy and generally "no fun"--a solid state mp3 player will almost certainly last far longer than an average cassette Walkman. No moving parts to wear out--nothing really to break. (MP3 players with hard drives are a different story.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 17, 2011 - 01:38am PT
I ran a 5k today for Hospice of Owens Valley. Good fun, I think I like this running thing.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2011 - 08:19pm PT
Needles trail canyonlands 4.9 miles? With Sierra salve on toes & fingers!

Slickrock & 5 fingers = god on a stick!!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 17, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Sounds like heaven, Jaybro!
I did 12 urban miles from the Bronx into Manhattan, to go help coach a running seminar. Running under a highway, past building supply yards, autobody shops, with a pack on my back, pretended I was Rocky. One garage had a yard full of dogs, mix of mutts and pitbulls, laying around bored. One pit was humping another - they both looked bored.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 18, 2011 - 01:29pm PT
Couloir and cornice season for the next six weeks!
Eight miles around Middle Boulder drainage topped off with a poached run down the west ridge of Eldora.


S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 18, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
4 mile run yesterday, swallowed alot of bugs.

arms and back p90x today
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 18, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
Antagonists circuit ~10 sets total and short AE threshold ride ~5mi. Too many errands on the agenda, had to cut the session short. Soon as the salmon comes out of the oven, I'm out the door for more errands. Blah.

I felt great on the Sat hangboard session. Maybe it was time of day, an a.m. workout vs my normal p.m., or good rest, or the small amount of caffeine in my decaf right before, but I was psyched...and hangboard workouts aren't really anything to be stoked on.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 20, 2011 - 01:25pm PT
Elcap, it is great when a session leaves you feeling so good even if it was 'only' a hangboard workout.
I only had time for a speed workout yesterday - 8x200M with 90-second rests between each sprint. That is a total of one mile and if I add up the run times I did a 5.5 minute mile :)
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 20, 2011 - 08:57pm PT
4mi, down a hill, up some stairs.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2011 - 09:28pm PT
Another three mile 5 finger run in canyonlands.

I'm mostly off the net right now but uphill approachs with an atomsmasher loaded with big cams and almost daily short runs is the norm for me right now, little chance to report about it, though. Hope everybody is getting out and having as much adventure as I am!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Apr 20, 2011 - 09:35pm PT
I'm currently doing a descending ladder of burpees starting from 17 (17, 16, 15...). Well, I'm currently typing about it trying to catch my breath before I go hurt myself again. Shiiiooot...
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 20, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
3 mile run and 6 lap swim yesterday. cardio x today
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 20, 2011 - 10:48pm PT
first off road hike today. not ready for the sticks yet. 1 mile with cane on dirt. ascending sets of burpees starting with typing about them and working up to bailing on them.
sullly

Trad climber
Apr 20, 2011 - 11:39pm PT
4 mile run followed by one mile walk with dog
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 21, 2011 - 04:03pm PT
9 laps in the ymca pool

lost 5 pounds
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 21, 2011 - 04:25pm PT
If I did 9 laps in a pool, I will have swallowed 5 pounds of water and drowned. Good going!

I had not checked out this thread earlier. I am struggling with leaving running on the back burner as I prepare for a trip up Denali. It's been very hard to stop doing something that has been part of my daily life for 30 years. The truth is that I have to get much stronger to pick up my pack without whining and help. I will whine off the mountain, but on the mountain, there will be no whining.

Running relieves stress. Running allows me to eat with wild abandon. Running gets me outside every day. Running leaves me fit enough to climb when the sun finally comes to the northwest. Running does not help me pick up that damn pack. Enter strength training and snow slogging.

I am deluding myself with the notion of effective cross training. I am running 4 - 5 days a week now. Long runs have been replaced by hard uphill hiking with lots of weight. Frustrated that the vertical gain is so small when I am carrying lots of weight, I am now doing some fast and light hikes or skinning on the other weekend day. So what is the aerobic equivalent of 3,000' of skinning? or a 5 mile posthole festival that gains 5,000'? Those days in the gym that have legs as a focus - I can barely wobble back to the office. After supper, I can trot around the block for a couple of miles.

Why am I panicked? I have a Hood to Coast Team for the end of August. Within a few weeks of coming back from Alaska, I will be racing 3 times in 18 hours. This should be very interesting.

I have learned how to balance rock climbing and running. This year will be about the synergy or non-synergy of running and mountaineering. Perhaps it wouldn't be such a stretch if the pack was smaller or I was bigger.

Your check-ins are providing me some much needed inspiration.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Apr 21, 2011 - 05:41pm PT
I did a V4 and a V5 boulder problem and was working another V5 when Ironworks closed last night. I capped it off with 10 pull-ups. That's about as much cardio as I can stand.

A week ago I was hiking in Pinnacles, doing the reservoir and high peaks loop and balconies trail from the east side in my flip-flops. That was kind of aerobic, especially during the brief moments when I was carrying the kids. Those little rugrats are heavy now!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 21, 2011 - 06:46pm PT
Seamstress, first - it must be so exciting to be going to Denali!!
I have chafed under heavy pack training for such trips too. It helps to still do some runs and fast hikes with a light pack to avoid losing touch with the faster pace altogether.
You will come back from the trip likely a little fatigued, but weighing less, so ease back into running (no more heavy packs, yeah!) and enjoy Hoood to Coast.
I came back from Denali and launched straight into trailrunning, started racing and did my first marathon in November of that year. The transition seemed to work out well. Being lighter helped :)
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 21, 2011 - 06:51pm PT
No time for a run yet today but I did do a deadlift workout that will serve my legs well. 5 sets of 5 reps, built up to 175# for the last set.

Waiting for the weekend, supposed to rain here but that makes the trails even softer :)
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Apr 22, 2011 - 01:15am PT
As the time I spend jogging increases, and my rate of speed improves, the more I want to do little else... except of course eat and recline more. The peaks in activity definitely bring on deeper lulls, and in motivation. Get to this point when I don't want to deal with the inner task master telling myself to go longer/farther yet, plus the necessary stretching I never do enough of so everything usually aches. Insert violins here. Time to let up a little just to keep at this with some consistency... Impressive how much you regulars do!

Glad you are having a great trip, Jay, from the sound of it!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 22, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
Just ran five miles off the couch.

This concludes my training. See you on the Big Stone next month.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 22, 2011 - 03:50pm PT
Seamstress, when are you going to Denali, guided/or not? and which route?

I am leaving on May 24th, may see you there...maybe..
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 22, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
Thanks for the encouragement.

I'm going up late - June 12th. Hope to summit on my birthday. I am taking a guided trip as I have been unable to pull together a solid team by myself. Time is ticking, and I must get up there before......This will be my first trip to Alaska, so the West Buttress will be fine - though I thought about biting off something more. Perhaps I will see you on your victorious descent. In all likelihood, you will be taking off as I land on the glacier. I'll be the only woman with a group of Aussie's with AAI. How about you?

Just did the whole body workout in the gym, followed by a 4 mile run. THe sun is shining for the first time in a long time. DId 8 in the pouring rain yesterday. SO my shoes were still a little squishy today.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 24, 2011 - 09:15pm PT
People must have got out over the weekend . . .
15 mile trail jog today for me--pretty arse whipped coming in.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 24, 2011 - 11:08pm PT
Lots of trees down in the foothills.

And my mom bought a new chain saw.

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 25, 2011 - 12:05am PT
6 km today. Felt pretty casual. What's wrong with me?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 25, 2011 - 07:04am PT
Seamstress, sounds like you will have a blast. I do hope you summit on your birthday, what better way to celebrate than being on top of the North American continent :)

Did about 15 miles on soggy trails on Saturday. It poured rain until the last few miles and It was tough to stay warm on the downhills and flats. Thankfully a change of clothes in ziplock bags stayed dry so we could be comfortable on the way home.
nature

climber
Koh Tao, Thailand
Apr 25, 2011 - 07:32am PT
I went bouldering today. 90 F with about 70 humidity.

I stepped on a scale the other day. I've lost 18 pounds since I got here. Some of it is muscle but a good chunk is fat. probably related to the piss water beer over here. that and the India diet where I spent far too much time not eating because I was sick to my stomach. I've not weighed 158 in a couple years.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2011 - 10:03am PT
That's what I weigh, though i am stumpier and more, 'relaxed fit'....
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 25, 2011 - 07:47pm PT
skied Mt Audubon south face, 3,425' up and back to the car for a five hour burn.


Jebus H Bomz

climber
Apr 25, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
Burpees again. I eat too much to lose weight, but my anaerobic threshold has definitely gotten better. Correction: I drink too much.
nature

climber
Koh Tao, Thailand
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:19am PT
Hell yeah!

that's what I'm talking about!

I'll drink (piss) to that!

and you know what they say in India....

Piss in, Piss out.

or maybe it's...

Dal in, Dal out.








Edit: Dal in, Piss out?
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:34am PT
Gorgeous, sunny day Saturday. Last day of ski school, and an instructor clinic. Surprisingly, I had enough energy to run 3 miles after I got home.

Sunday - endless snow slog with heavy weight on back while pulling a sled. Yes, it was back to raining/snowing again. I'm sure the hardy few I encountered are still shaking their head about that weird sight. Gear is again sprawled all over the kitchen floor to dry.

Back to the gym on Monday. Upper body. Focus on ability to lift a heavy pack. Still got work to do. The five mile run along the waterfront was delightful and DRY. Managed to hit the only dry window of the day.

eKat

climber
BITD3
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:43am PT
I turned the loft, here on TheHolyMont, into a little gym. Old (25yrs) TV with a VCR for workout videos, 1, 2 and 5 pound hand weights, long sproinga thing to pull on, wet suit belt, calf stretcher foot rocker thingy, Yoga matt, aerobic step and a turbo trainer for my vintage RockHopper.

I prefer being outside for this stuff but the weather just isn't playing along. . . so until the BigSun decides to enter the BigSky, I'm happy to stomp around up there for an hour a day.

Funny. . . if it's skeezin season I have no problem playing outside during storms. . . what happens when the snow underfoot is gone, does it reprogram your mind to STAY INSIDE, or what? But. . . the other day I headed out for a 4.8mph powerwalk and it started raining and I, quite literally, RAN HOME.

?

Weird.

Keep on keepin' on.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 26, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
Lisa,

We refer to plastic bags as cascade gaiters....Good to see that I wasnn't the only woman out in the elements for hours!!

The weather doesn't have to cooperate. I have run in 110 degree heat, -45 degrees below zero, during the eye of a hurricane, and when tornados were shaving the tree tops 200 feet from my house. I will admit that I WOULD have stayed inside for the tornados if I knew the thunderstorm was going to get that ugly. It isn't always the most fun I ever had, but it keeps me in shape to have more fun than other old ladies.

I eat 365 days a year, so I exercise 365 days a year!!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:19pm PT
10 laps ymca pool
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
I'm going up late - June 12th. Hope to summit on my birthday. I am taking a guided trip as I have been unable to pull together a solid team by myself. Time is ticking, and I must get up there before......This will be my first trip to Alaska, so the West Buttress will be fine - though I thought about biting off something more. Perhaps I will see you on your victorious descent. In all likelihood, you will be taking off as I land on the glacier. I'll be the only woman with a group of Aussie's with AAI. How about you?

Seamstress, I will be leaving from SF May 24th..I been climbing/hiking/mountaineering for just over a year (but heavily!) and it will be our first trip to Alaska, so also West Buttress is a prime goal, but unguided. My friend and I are hoping to attempt the West Rib after. We gonna stash some screws, light tent, etc at 8K and hope to go as light and fast as possible. Hope to do whole rib in no more than 3 days (since we will be acclimated by than) after we camp in the valley of death (if we have enough energy for it all after West Butt, which I doubt, but hope we do). Enjoy your trip, maybe I will see you there at some point.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:40pm PT
Ran 4 miles today. Starting to feel easier.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:56pm PT
No real aerobic work for me, been moving house. But still got my hangboard workouts in. Back at it today after work.

Speaking of weight, just rounding into fighting shape right about now. Put on 5lb after starting the new job (I blame the cheap greasy almond cookies from the asian market), got about 3.5 of it back off. Right on schedule to peak end of May/early June.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:28pm PT
Ha ha, Seamstress, I will remember to use that term in future.
Shivering burns calories!

No shivering today though - 78F and sunny in Central Park. Ran with my club - we did an ascending ladder - 250m, 500m, 750m with brief rests between - three times. That is 4,500m (2.4 miles) running as fast as possible, with the rests to make it bearable.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
First run of the year, actually first run since the acl surgery 11 months ago. Ran the ridge around Foresta, beautiful spring green growth coming up around fire burned small trees and shrubs. Felt great. Beautiful day.

Peter
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 27, 2011 - 09:30pm PT
awesome peter.

serious injury, nice comeback.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 27, 2011 - 09:31pm PT
jaybro, are you doing the born to run deal in vibrams?
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 29, 2011 - 05:06pm PT
mile run
30 reps abs
30 arms
10 laps pool
bubble boy

Big Wall climber
topanga, CA
Apr 29, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
Rode bike to work, third time this week. almost 4 hours, there and back. Wooop!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 29, 2011 - 05:49pm PT
awesome job ^^^
Randisi

Boulder climber
Soon to be in China
Apr 29, 2011 - 07:13pm PT
Just finished a nice run on Mt. Tam.

The Matt Davis trail from the Mountain Home, up Nora to the West Point Inn, then the old Grade to the very top. Back down and around the Vera loop, then down Fern Gully and back up the Grade to the West Point Inn again. Nora and Matt Davis back to the Mountain Home.

Beautiful day here in Marvelous Marin!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2011 - 08:24pm PT
Klk, yes, though mostly climbing now.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 30, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
Did 3/4 of the Muddy Marathon in NJ today. I did not think I was up for doing the 4th loop within the two-hour time limit. Yes - two hours to do 6.55 miles through swamps, creeks and up and over 3 ridges. The mud was up to mid-thigh in places and only 3 miles were on actual blazed singletrack. It was a blast!!
jogill

climber
Colorado
Apr 30, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
It's to the horizontal ladder in the playground for this overweight 74 year-old, doing pull-ups, traverses, pathetic levers, etc. Quit climbing since it caused great pain in my shoulder arthritis, but bodyweight exercises are good and give a nice pumped feeling afterwards. Always thought I would abandon those and keep climbing at lower levels,but it turned out the opposite is the case. Go figure, Kerwin. All those small, inflamed muscle groups.
LithiumMetalman

Trad climber
cesspool central
Apr 30, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
finished 40 miler on a singlespeed, fun ride!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 30, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
I love playground equipment too, Mr Gill! Glad to hear you are still pulling despite those shoulders.
Bodyweight exercises can be done anywhere at any time and give an excellent workout when done for time or for reps. Pullups, pushups and air squats - full body workout.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 30, 2011 - 09:58pm PT
16 mile jog, although the last 4 were pretty sad.
I'm jealous of those of you who actually like distance running--I've taken it up as I'm out of climbing for a few more months with injuries, but it's more torture than fun for me.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2011 - 11:57am PT
Credit: Jaybro

Slickrock at Dawn! (coming to a photo essay near you!) Regular white man running shoes. Too cold to work into those five finger dealies.. after a month of of mostly new hard wide cracks my fingers and toes are chapped bleeding stumps. only 2.5 miles, May go back with the light shoes after todays climbing.
Cold and windy today...
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 1, 2011 - 10:01pm PT
Sweet, Jaybro; I look forward to the TRs.

Today, 10mi with "just one hill" in the awesome Wunderlich Park; would have been 9, but for route-finding difficulties. Also some cycling to and from the gym, where me and my posse sent way dab projs.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 1, 2011 - 10:45pm PT

Put air in the tires.


Finally enough daylight at both ends of the day, and warmth to pedal my ass to work
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 2, 2011 - 01:51am PT
Finally a nice weekend. I climbed (snow slog) Defiance in the Gorge, setting tracks for the last 1,000' vertical. Light and fast. Was joined on top by quite a few Mazamas, so the track back was smooth. Lovely matched set of blisters.

Today I dragged my 100 pound load up to Chocolate Falls. I had not done a big carry the day after a climb before. It was a death march. The sun was shining. There better be a fitness payoff here.

Saturday was definitely aerobic. Sunday was brutal work, but probably not aerobic.
Brandon-

climber
Done With Tobacco
May 2, 2011 - 01:55am PT
Ran for 3/4 an hour this morning with the dogs off trail, got lost, looked at my legs and found a bakers dozen of ticks on them. Ran home faster.

Paddled a couple miles, flatw#ter to class III, thereafter.

Spring is here!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2011 - 08:29am PT
waddling down to the
breakfast bar .....
troutboy

Trad climber
Newark, DE
May 3, 2011 - 10:28am PT
28 miles of rocky, hilly singletrack in the old fart (45+ men) endurance division at the Granogue (DE) Mountain Bike Race this weekend (yes, I am well past 45, but that is the last age group cutoff :-( ).

I did not finish last. I even managed to beat a few of the under 45s.

I did not cough up a lung after (thank you albuterol).

I had fun.

Then got home to see a friend RAN a marathon in HALF the time it took me to bike only slightly further. Aarrghhh!

TS
nature

climber
Krabi, Thailand
May 3, 2011 - 10:31am PT
wow... that photo you posted there jay could apply to Thailand. Except... well... swap the F for a C and we are the same.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 3, 2011 - 01:16pm PT
Woke up at 8am on Saturday at Bunny Flat parking lot (Mt. Shasta). Was supposed to leave at 4am but had a shitty night. Got ready and head out solo for a day of cardio. On the summit in 4hours 50mins!!! My best time so far!
screw alpine starts
screw alpine starts
Credit: Vitaliy M.
the thub
the thub
Credit: Vitaliy M.
summit first seen
summit first seen
Credit: Vitaliy M.
summit itself
summit itself
Credit: Vitaliy M.
view north
view north
Credit: Vitaliy M.
Shastina and Whitney glacier
Shastina and Whitney glacier
Credit: Vitaliy M.
Back to TH..c2c in 7hrs 40mins(4:50 to the summit from BF)..wh...
Back to TH..c2c in 7hrs 40mins(4:50 to the summit from BF)..why alpine start if you can have views like this all day!?
Credit: Vitaliy M.



T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
May 4, 2011 - 02:36am PT
...7hrs 40mins..why alpine start if you can have views like this all day!?
I can't argue with that.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 4, 2011 - 09:15am PT
Vitaliy M, lovely TR!!! How great to have an aerobic workout with those sort of views.

All I did yesterday was 6x200M in Central Park with 90-second rests. Short tough workout.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2011 - 10:44am PT
Nice, Vitaly! All I did was carry a heavy pack up a hill, run a rope up to where I needed blues and only had reds, bail, then belay on a more worthy project....
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 4, 2011 - 09:54pm PT
Three hour, afternoon quickie.


Do you see the sleeping Indian?









eKat

climber
BITD3
May 4, 2011 - 09:54pm PT
NICE!
Sonic

Trad climber
Central Coast, California
May 5, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
Rode about 30 miles this morning. Left at 6 in my bike jersey and shorts, gotta love warm spring mornings!!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 5, 2011 - 01:09pm PT
I did about 21.5 yesterday afternoon on the road bike. It was pushing on to 100 degrees when I was out. Too soon to be that hot!!!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 5, 2011 - 02:49pm PT
Despite my best efforts to destroy my legs over the weekend, 5 miles came easily on Monday and Tuesday. Also got in two gym workouts. Nice!!

Yesterday's weather was too good - 70 and sunny. Inspired, I signed up for the Happy Girls Run 1/2 marathon in Bend at the end of the month. So what if I haven't run more than 8 miles in a couple of months. Don't let reality cloud your judgment when the race advertisers "handsome pacesetters". I ran ten miles - and the legs turned to lead half way through. Now I have empirical evidence that mountaineering isn't a perfect cross training substitute for road running.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 5, 2011 - 03:35pm PT
Good on ya fer gettin' it done Seamstress!

A few years back, I signed up for a half marathon. Hadn't really done much running in quite a few years, although it would have been a cruise when I was in my 20's. Started training... stretching out my runs, etc. About a month before the event, I jacked a muscle in one calf in a big way. Over the next month before the event, my workouts consisted of mountain bike rides because I couldn't run on it. The week of the event, it was feeling sort of okay. The friend I signed up with said she was going to still do it, despite having some back problems, and would just walk if she had to. I decided to do it anyways and just run with her. She never did walk. I made the distance, although the last three miles were torture. Took me about five days to start walking normal again...
locker

Social climber
CO
May 5, 2011 - 03:44pm PT


Bouldered with my son for a couple of hours yesterday and then my regular climbing partner showed up to climb so we CLIMBED for another couple of hours...

Then came home and did my daily exercise routine...

SUPPOSED to go CLIMBING today...

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!...

LOL!!!...

My arms feel like NOODLES...





S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 5, 2011 - 05:51pm PT
1 mile run, 10 lap swim, abs.

almost a month on a vegan diet, lost 15 lbs. systolic bp normal, diastolic almost normal.

no more acid reflux.

tons more energy
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 5, 2011 - 05:52pm PT
might actually CLIMB TOMORROW.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 5, 2011 - 05:55pm PT
finally read born to run last night.

pretty cheesy. but the account of the final race is fun.

i finaly broke down and bought a pr of virbam 5 finger ksos. they fit perfect, feel great, really nice for someone like me who tries to go barefoot as much as possible because store-bought shoes don't fit.

but i'm not sure i can wear them in public. growing up in the rural mid-south, my gender socialization was pretty strict.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqlOAx0ID5E
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2011 - 06:14pm PT
We'll always know you're a man... I liked the last part best, too.
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
May 5, 2011 - 07:49pm PT
Nice trip to Phoenix. Sunday, May 1 - Camelback Mountain. 25:38 up the Cholla trail, easy down the Echo side, backup Echo in 25:10, easy down to the car. Tuesday, 14 mile hike in the Superstitions to Dripping Spring from the Peralta trail head. Maybe I can shed a pound or two one of these days. I have to try to stay in reasonable shape for when brassnuts returns to Vegas.
eKat

climber
BITD3
May 5, 2011 - 08:25pm PT
1 hour stompin' in the new loft/gym while looking out the cathedral windows at a big ass winter storm brewin' in the Canadian Rockies. . . dang. . . this winter is like watching "Groundhog's Day."

Whoa.

klk

Trad climber
cali
May 5, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
so i did my local normal trail loop (normal when I haven't had pneumonia or whatever) in the KSOs. mostly walking & stretches of survival shuffle. i'm used to doing it in my heavy approach shoes, so the lightness was weird.

probably be sore tomorrow.

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 5, 2011 - 10:55pm PT
Nice trip to Phoenix. Sunday, May 1 - Camelback Mountain. 25:38 up the Cholla trail, easy down the Echo side, backup Echo in 25:10, easy down to the car. Tuesday, 14 mile hike in the Superstitions to Dripping Spring from the Peralta trail head. Maybe I can shed a pound or two one of these days. I have to try to stay in reasonable shape for when brassnuts returns to Vegas.


Dhuuuude!
You should call or write when you're in town...I'd give you the tour!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 6, 2011 - 03:56pm PT
A friend (who just happens to be getting into doing tris) sent me this link.

http://charliebroadway.blogspot.com/2011/01/triathlon-is-stupid-sport.html
eKat

climber
BITD3
May 6, 2011 - 06:24pm PT
Another hour up in the loft. . . same winter storm blowin' the roof off the cabin!

:-)
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 6, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
Got 8 miles in running through Washington Park and the Arboretum yesterday. The Azelas are blooming, and the rhodies are close.

Did 5.5 miles down on the waterfront today. Somehow managed to run between showers.

Not looking forward to the weekend's planned exertions with the forecast of rain and snow on the mountains.
eKat

climber
BITD3
May 6, 2011 - 06:31pm PT
Did 5.5 miles down on the waterfront today. Somehow managed to run between showers.

Isn't that funny. . . we elect to bundle up and ski in frikken blizzards all winter, then when the snow's not on the ground we tippy toe around a little rain.

WEIRD.

HAVE FUN. . .

:-)
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 6, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
I swear that snow is warmer. It shakes right off. That 35 - 45 degree rain just saturates and chills. My house is a 2,000+ square foot drying room for all my wet gear!!!

Think I'll wander into the hot tub tonight and rewarm. I'll be thinking about that when the rain is soaking me again tomorrow.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 6, 2011 - 08:04pm PT
Seamstress gets post #420, and that leads to a question.

Do any of you puff before you run? I've got a friend, a lady and a marathoner, who claims that getting stoned before a marathon helps, as it allows for greater focus and compartamentalization of pain.

Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
May 6, 2011 - 09:33pm PT
FACT: I BEARLY GOT WINDED KIKIN THAT SEELS ASS SO MY VO2MOX IS RAD!!!!!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 6, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
Sully, her PR is right around yours, I'd have to ask her for the specific number.

Four marathons a year, plus leading trad deep into the .12's gives her some credibility.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 7, 2011 - 12:32am PT
Dragging the load
Dragging the load
Credit: Seamstress

I can't say that I ever tried racing stoned. The more I raced, the less drinking I did pre-race. I've done 35 marathons with a PR of 3:10 at Boston while working an executive job and being a mom of 3. I used to race 40+ times a year and have boxes of 3rd place trophies - second class. Ability to focus was always there without any artificial assistance.

I'm no doctor, but I would be really careful about putting anything in my body then going at 85% max for a few hours.

Marathon isn't painful. Carrying 100 pounds for a few hours = painful, whining.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 7, 2011 - 12:35am PT
Tough Mudder in the AM. I just hope I finish!
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
May 7, 2011 - 10:49am PT
Ed and I got out yesterday to the park. About 2,500' of elevation gain.

Credit: Rick A

Started at the road seen below.
Credit: Rick A
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 7, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
I did it! I finished tough mudder today! Whoa man was it COLD in the water!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 7, 2011 - 07:51pm PT
Nice Aya!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 7, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
Those blue skies were MIA today. I got in my 5 miles with the 100 pounds. It was 1/2 hour faster than last weekend, but still not fast enough to brag out loud. This time I attempted a ski descent with the pack and sled. Surprisingly, I am still alive and was not eaten by a tree well.
Looong way into that tree well.
Looong way into that tree well.
Credit: Seamstress

The weather will be crappy again tomorrow. But I hope I am inspired to climb St. Helens in my dress along with the other "cuties" that I saw setting up camp.
eKat

climber
BITD3
May 7, 2011 - 11:49pm PT
Another hour in the loft with that very same storm. . . it really is "Groundhog's Day."
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
May 8, 2011 - 12:44am PT
Absolute wimpy bike ride today. What will happen in elevation. Must crack on. Ugh.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 10, 2011 - 04:49pm PT



+




= 8 mile tour up in the James Peak wilderness.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2011 - 01:13am PT
Excellent day skinning up St. Helens on Sunday. The tradition lives on!
Credit: Seamstress
The weather forecast scared away the crowds - maybe 50 this year instead of the 350 last year. We had sun, no wind - and intermittant snow squalls.

After surviving two big days on the weekend, the legs surprised me and had no trouble with 6 miles flat miles near the river Monday and 5 miles crammed into lunch today. Did I detect a little zip?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 11, 2011 - 02:09pm PT
Crushed from a 20-minute AMRAP (as many rounds as possible in 20 minutes):
5 chest to bar pullups
10 wall balls (14# medicine ball thrown to 10 foot hight target while rising from squat position)
15 kettlebell swings (35#)

7 rounds plus 1 measly pullup.
Hamstrings are tight from the wall balls and forearms are tight from the kettlebells.

Great nonstop workout, collapsed on the floor sweating and panting after it.

Now to rest as I have two races this weekend. Must look at calendar before registering for races in future.

Ski season is essentially finished in the NE so I love seeing folks' touring photos - keep them coming!
Seamstress, you will do so well on Denali. Your training is conditioning you so well.
locker

Social climber
CO
May 11, 2011 - 02:15pm PT


My "Workout" yesterday consisted of landing HARD on my back because my "Spotters" either weren't paying attention or wanted me dead so they could get my Blow up doll collection...


I was TRYING hard as hell to do this supposed V5 move and POPPED shooting backwards like a rocket...

I think I saw the PAD lying on the ground about three feet to my right and I sort of recall one hand brushing my back as I FLEW by...


Bouldering is HARD...

and I SUCK at it...


LOL!!!...

salad

climber
Escondido
May 11, 2011 - 02:16pm PT
back in the saddle starting this morning. i havent done jack since a half marathon in feb. managed an easy 2 miler this morning, walking 18 holes this afternoon on an exec course.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 11, 2011 - 05:20pm PT
10 laps swim.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 11, 2011 - 05:29pm PT
pool laps, 20 mile living room bike ride, going for a hike, sans cane.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2011 - 05:57pm PT
There is something about saying it out loud that increases commitment. I appreciate the bits of encouragement, especially since my honey would rather keep me "fluffy" and rest my way into shape.

Second day in the gym this week with the focus on legs today. Then I wobbled out and trotted a mere three miles. There appears to be a limit on how much I can squeeze into lunch before too many people notice. I hope to jump on the exercise bike when I get home late tonight, followed by more futile attempts to reach for my toes.

My knickers are in a twist with plans for the upcoming weekend. I want a different venue, but that takes more time behind the wheel. I've come up with a plan to volunteer my husband for training and candidate testing for the rescue team this weekend. Then I might be able to zip over to Rainier for a different snow sufferfest.

The best of the ski mountaineering season is here and now. Lisa, you should try it sometime.....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2011 - 05:59pm PT
WI - kudos on the sans cane. I assume there is a story on that.
Lorenzo_InA_Benzo

Mountain climber
Yolo
May 11, 2011 - 06:49pm PT
today was fun:
running in hills, 100 minutes in Zone 4, not aeroBic BUT HORRIBLE!
then, 200 turkish getups with 45 bar.


^ive never understood why crossfit peopl 'love' to writh about after the workouts...doesn't this tend to happen when you lose in an MMA match or fist fight, or taking it to the worst level, just got your ass smoked (not smoked out, cuz then we be staraight BLUNTED and being on the flor is normal :) lol)? just never got that about it, u don't see professional athletes doin this, is it just learned behavior? i understand collapsing after a 60hr push in the mountains but after a 2, 10, or 30minute workout? jus wonderin aloud!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 11, 2011 - 06:56pm PT
Keep it up Wade! I was on the cane for 8 weeks last year and thought I would never be whole again. Time is on your side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzcWwmwChVE&feature=related
eKat

climber
BITD3
May 11, 2011 - 07:05pm PT
14,000 steps on the pedometer working on the grounds here on TheHolyMont.

Whew!

At least it's GORGEOUS out there!

Spring might be just around the corner. . . I could actually HEAR the buds bursting forth from the seemingly dead trees!

:-)
rhyang

climber
SJC
May 11, 2011 - 11:09pm PT
My usual 10 mile / 2400' gain after-work hike on Monday evening.

Got out on my mountain bike this evening, rode 18 miles / 1000' gain, mix of pavement and fire roads.

Went to the climbing gym on Tuesday night, more of the same tomorrow night.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 11, 2011 - 11:30pm PT
Credit: Aya K

I gotta say, while I had tons of fun at tough mudder, any of the peaks I've done in the winter in the Dacks (eg North Face of Gothics, even the slides on Giant) were physically way more strenuous. The course had about 7000 feet of elevation gain over the 10 miles but with no pack full of ice gear on my back the hills seemed really easy. Growing the balls to jump into 35 degree water multiple times was a different story. Anyways, I feel like a fat pig because I took the last three days off from working out - not because I've been sore but because I've been lazy and using it as an excuse. Poooop.

I'm off to BODY STEP tomorrow. Man, how I love that class!!!!!!!!
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 11, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
8 hour days building a deck in Mammoth.....
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
May 12, 2011 - 12:40am PT
Been running 2x a week, anywhere from 4 to 11 miles, including at least once/week hard interval training. Yowza!

Improved my 5k time from 28:00 to 24:00 on my local course, still lots of room for improvement but been good so far after only running 4 months!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 12, 2011 - 05:53pm PT
Good job GDavis!

kenpo p90x for me...so good!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 12, 2011 - 06:08pm PT
Fri: Power day in the climbing gym. Campus board. Boulder problem pyramid to warmup (~8 problems) then 5 sets campus: mid rungs ladder, smallest rungs ladder, smallest rungs skip-2 touches w/5 reps per side, 2 rounds of smallest rungs skip-1 ladders. 3 sets gravity boot inverted situps after.

Sat: Rest. Catch up on sleep I missed being out of town for work.

Sun: Several miles day-hiking in local nature preserve.

Mon: Power day in the climbing gym. Bouldering warmup pyramid (~8 problems increasing difficulty) then all-out attempts, flashed 4 new problems, sent a hard new thing in a few tries, almost sent an equally hard thing I'd tried a couple times in a prior session. Having put in 5 solid efforts on limit-level problems, did a quick warm-down and went home.

Tues: Rest.

Yesterday: 8 set circuit of shoulders/chest/tris ->5km tempo/sprint on the bike, then a mile home on the cruiser bike as my warmdown.

Today: Starts the PE phase of the climbing specific training, 2 weeks of power is complete. Probably 4x4s in the gym, maybe routes. We'll see in about an hour. Then gravity boot situps

eKat

climber
BITD3
May 12, 2011 - 06:30pm PT
Another hour in the loft - weights - aerobics. . . and yet ANOTHER winter storm slammin' the deep north woods. It's GORGEOUS!

Aya K. . . RAD!

Actually, RAD to everybody for keepin' it alive!

:-)
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 12, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
The hammies were not overly enthused about running today. However we did accomplish 8 miles on a section of the Wildwood Trail. The rhodies are blooming, and some of the mountains were showing their faces - if you know precisely what you are looking at.

So nice to be in shorts!! and a t-shirt!! with no rain gear on today!!

I miss those NE trail races. Those frequent trips to the Whites provided the opportunity to start climbing.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 12, 2011 - 08:10pm PT
I went to step class today and almost threw up (which is not an unusual occurrence, laugh all you want, that stuff is HARD) but it was so hard to motivate now that the (somewhat anticlimactic) race is over. Poop.
sullly

Trad climber
May 12, 2011 - 08:22pm PT
Good for you Aya. Cool Wonder Woman headband and nails in the race shot too.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 13, 2011 - 12:52am PT
5.5 or so over "the Dish" at Stanford, which is now a manicured asphalt trail. I remember when it was dirt and you'd trip over cows and bikes and bikes that had run into cows. Felt crappy and slow, but the GPS said I set records for the 100m dash 88 times in a row, so I got that going for me.
sullly

Trad climber
May 13, 2011 - 09:05am PT
True about Dish. Best place within range is Rancho San Antonio. Beats Dish, Huddart and Sawyer Camp in my book.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 13, 2011 - 05:44pm PT
3 mile run. bp is normal for the first time in years!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 13, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
An hour of fighting those rubber bands in the gym, which should become a comedy sketch. Topped that off with a 5 mile run and a cup of soup. Thinking about a coffee run now.

Excellent news on the BP front!
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 13, 2011 - 05:49pm PT
RSA is great--especially the Black Mountain Trail. I prefer Wunderlich to Huddart just because it's less crowded and less picnicky.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 13, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
Excellent news on the BP front!

Thanks Seamtress
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 13, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
Crossfit 2-3 days a week, then climbing on the weekends. The workouts change every day, some are more strength oriented (low rep, heavy olympic lifts), some are more anaerobic, some purely aerobic. The last one I did was a fun combination; heavy, high intensity, with some body weight movements mixed in.

Man I wish I could afford crossfit.
I did 1 of the free sessions and I liked the camaraderie of it.
Tork

climber
Yosemite
May 14, 2011 - 11:03am PT
Cait, you did great...fun day.
Jeff
sullly

Trad climber
May 14, 2011 - 11:53am PT
Thanks Tork. If Snake Dike is required of you this season, you know which client to call.
Tork

climber
Yosemite
May 14, 2011 - 11:58am PT
Now that is an aerobic woorkout Cait. Lets do it!
Robb

Social climber
The other "Magic City on the Plains"
May 14, 2011 - 12:45pm PT
20 miles of sustained sprints on the Trek yesterday-REALLY feeling it in the shoulders!
Gearhead

Trad climber
Novato Ca
May 14, 2011 - 01:13pm PT
25 mile Mountain bike ride followed by sub 15 min 2 mile run total run distance was 4 miles in about 35+ min. Then 2 hour gym session ala gym jones work out from the web site. I'm sore today! Going out for a short slow recovery ride this morning.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 14, 2011 - 03:02pm PT
six miles on trail yesterday. Slipped twice in the last mile landing hard on the new hip. Might have to rethink the solo hiking as It took quite awhile to make it back to upright each time.

Today, Fear and Loathing in Vegas and the stationary bike...
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 16, 2011 - 07:32am PT
Ouch, Wade, do be careful!
I ran the Ragnar Relay New York from Fri to Sat. Team of 12 does 197 miles from Bethel, NY in the Catskills down to Westchester Co. Everyone does 3 legs so I did about 20 miles total. It is the camaraderie, runner support and lack of sleep that made it a great experience. I got about 3 hours' sleep aggregate over the 27 hours it took us to finish.
Yesterday I slept a lot then bouldered at the gym. Discovered a pulley injury, foo! Only in the climbing world is a sore finger treated with appropriate care and sympathy, right? Or am I a wuss? ;)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 11:08am PT
It is the camaraderie, runner support and lack of sleep that made it a great experience

Hoh man! We gotta get you into offwidth! You'll be unstoppable!!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 16, 2011 - 11:31am PT
Yesterday PE intervals in the climbing gym. 10min ARC & small bouldering pyramid warmup, workout of 4 intervals, ~40 moves ea, 1:1.5 work to rest time. Insanely pumped. Nice to be able to do this kind of workout with relatively few people in the gym.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 16, 2011 - 11:54am PT
LOL Jaybro! I did not realize the potential application until you pointed it out.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 16, 2011 - 12:13pm PT
Four hour tour up in RMNP.



Enjoying the ten minutes of sunshine we had this weekend before the fog moved in and we had to bail.





Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 16, 2011 - 01:11pm PT
The weekend started off promising. Did 1/2 day coaching on running systems for rescue rigging. Then dashed out to drag the big load around for a few hours. It was a bit easier this weekend, and I got back to the car just as the rain moved in. Foolishly, I congratlated myself for staying dry and staying on plan.

7:00 PM the calls start rolling in. Party of 5 overdue on St. Helens. Party of 2 overdue on St. Helens. Family of 7 stranded in the Souixon. Our small team managed to get to all of them with only one snowmobile as a casualty. I didn't get any aerobic exercise in, but sleep deprivation and fighting cold sapped energy. After I got home 1 PM Sunday and revived in the hot tub, I set out for a long run instead of a major hike. I felt OK, but the time was horribly slow for no apparent reason. I decided to listen to my body, returned home with only 3 miles logged.

ALl night I wondered if I am lazy or smart? It is the first time in a long time that I didn't work out as long and hard as intended. I hate being lazy.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 16, 2011 - 01:23pm PT
^^^^^^^^
but ain't it great to be smart?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 16, 2011 - 10:10pm PT
+1 what Wade said. You did the right thing by listening to your body. Rest is valuable.

Today I ran 5 miles at a comfortable pace, then did a heavy deadlift and push press workout to finish off my hamstrings.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 17, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
It is a wonderful day, today. My new hypothesis is that I need to eat more, thanks to the changes in activity. I couldn't help eating anything that didn't run away from me and was hungry all the time. I was trying to avoid gaining weight while the miles running were cutback, and replaced with weight work, load carries, and long snow slogs. Fearfully, I jumped on the scale to get my punishment/inspiration to stop snacking. Somehow I lost 8 pounds in the last 5 weeks. Astounding!! You can't run on empty.

Joyfully, the calories consumed will be increased for the duration of the training. I ran 5 miles and did an hour of weight training focusing on arms yesterday. Today was a hilly 8 miles up through Washington Park. It may take a few days to figure out if eating more will help sustain the planned training. Did not feel like a zombie today.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 17, 2011 - 07:32pm PT
Got my butt kicked on a 5.7 today and had a ground fall from 10'.

Last week I exercised 6 out of 7 days.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 17, 2011 - 11:24pm PT
Seamstress, you must fuel the furnace! Besides, you will lose weight on the trip. Even I dropped a good 10 pounds or so. We were a team of three and would cook two dehydrated entrees for every meal. Every entree had two servings, so even though three of us ate dinner for four we all lost weight. So be sure to go in with fat reserves - they will keep you warm too :)

Today I worked on heavy thrusters, then ran intervals of 200m and 400m for a total of one mile. When I add my run times and exclude the resting times I ran a sub 6-minute mile. The only way I ever will LOL!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2011 - 07:35pm PT
Mtn biking, of all things! The boneyard, eagle Colorado. Three? miles out and the same back. Don't know the elevation gain. Never quite got rained on. Faitl technical foa 173yr old man who hadn't done it in a decade! Borrowed a very cool light hi tech bike, a felt!

Totally kick ass!! I remember why people do this. Now it's coffee or a nap! Maybe both!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 18, 2011 - 07:48pm PT
Leg day at the gym, followed by a 5 mile run. The sun was shining, it was warm, and I actually enjoyed it - that is the running part!! The weighted lunges are still not my favorite.

Perhaps we need to recalibrate the fuel intake just a hair more. Eat more, but not too much more. It is nice to have more energy. Balance was better too. That might come in handy.

Best chances for a sub 6 minute mile - run downhill!
jogill

climber
Colorado
May 18, 2011 - 08:37pm PT
. . . being fairly fit and climbing well can be two different things.

Absolutely true. The strain on small muscles in my arthritic shoulders keeps me away from the rock, but I am gaining bodyweight strength with pull-ups, etc., and that feels good. You do what you can. The important thing is to keep doing something.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 18, 2011 - 08:41pm PT
The important thing is to keep doing something

amen to that!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 19, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
2 hours of powder puff shadow boxing and my ass still looks big....i'm exhausted
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
May 19, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
Yesterday 30 min elliptical and 40 min walk/run with dog in Red Rocks.

Then the dreaded "deck of cards" workout with Maura. Shuffle the deck and take turns pulling cards.

Hearts = pullups (jack = 11, queen = 12, king = 13, ace = 15)
Diamonds = card value x 2 for a special ab set
Sometimes we make Diamonds = pushups x 2
Clubs = card value x 4 touches on a slightly overhanging rock wall
Spades = card value x seconds hanging on a hang board repeat x 4

For small numbers on some sets, I have a 10 and a 20lb weight vest.

It takes over an hour. I got a disproportionate number of pullups and abs while Maura got overloaded on hangs and rock wall hits.

When done, your forearms, abs, and back are pretty roasted.

Not aerobic, but fun workout that some may find valuable.

S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 19, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
3.25 mile run in the rain, refreshing!
locker

Social climber
CO
May 19, 2011 - 11:08pm PT


Pulling exercise for me today...

I won't go into details...

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 19, 2011 - 11:33pm PT
Two hour mountain bike ride. Maybe the last of the year as it's about to go nuclear oven here in the desert. Road season is upon us!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 23, 2011 - 02:43pm PT
45 minute run (slow) keeping my heart rate between 145-150 max. This was my first outside run since finishing chemo. I have been going to the gym and working out on treadmill and stationary for aerobic but living in California I don't consider indoor aerobic workout my real workout (unless it's indoor soccer). My license plate is "SRW RUNS" and running has always been one of my great loves. This felt so good to do it outside. Especially with the wind whistling through my hair, err, wait, I don't really have hair yet...ok, blowing across my scalp. Susan
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 23, 2011 - 07:48pm PT
Most excellant, Susan. My mom ran through her chemo - many days, not all days. Those were the good days. It is a way of hanging onto normal. I still remember getting her the best card later, - "Congratulations, your hare is back". Hope to hear that from you later on. THe first step is always the hardest.

Drove for 3 hours to get to Rainier on Saturday. That should be considered a workout. Climbed quickly - until 9,100'. Dragged ass for 500' then felt great. Broke above the clouds at 9,000'. The forecast - 22 degrees with showers and 15 mph winds. Reality - a beach party at Muir with no wind at all, pass the sunblock.

Dragged the load on St. Helens for 3 hours on Sunday in variable, but not miserable weather, then rewarded myself with a fine italian dinner.

Arms today at the gym. Only got in 2 miles - and hope to get in a few more at home tonight.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 23, 2011 - 08:05pm PT
not really aerobic, except for the hike in, I climbed outside for 4 hours and realized how much I am out of climbing shape.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 23, 2011 - 08:06pm PT
4 hrs hard yesterday, hiking and scrambling. my lungs still hurt, a month after i thought the pneumonia was over.

pita

maybe i'll just boulder all summer
sullly

Trad climber
May 23, 2011 - 10:07pm PT
Upping running mileage and can report that FBook founder still hasn't moved into newly purchased mansion.(I like to run through the pricier part of town.) Same lights on but nobody's home. Call me Alice Kravitz.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 23, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
OK Sully, EXACTLY where is the low rent section of where you live...except maybe on the other side of the freeway? I think maybe the area you live is "high" and "mega". LOL Susan
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 23, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
post 500, awesome workouts
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2011 - 10:21am PT
Delicate arch stroll. Brisk walking pace. We forgot our free solo gear but it was just what we needed on a troublesome day, in a very strange trip....

Credit: Jaybro
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 24, 2011 - 04:35pm PT
bumped up to a 50 min run this a.m. keeping heart rate no higher than 150. Weight work tonight at the gym. Boat work tomorrow. The fun never ends. Gym climbing a little bit, lingering neuropathy in my toes from chemo makes my shoes R