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Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 11, 2011 - 01:13am PT
As we all know, aerobic exercise is good for us, for climbing, life etc, but it can be harder to motivate till you get into it. So the purpose of this thread is to provide some sort of motivation via peer support.
I'm mostly a runner, but also a sometime mtn bker/bicycle commuter, etc. But for our purposes here anything that gets your heart rate up into the target zone (roughly 60-80% of Max for 20 minutes or so or more works. Anything leading up to that works too. Run, walk, jog, bike, dance,circuit weight traing, ellipticals, treadmills, skaring whatever.

Sometimes it's good to talk about times and distances and stuff and clearly that can be part of it, but that can turn into a one-upmanship/pissing contest. So for now, I'm thinking just on/off sort of check in, maybe type of exercise, days to date in the year?

this is an evolving process, totally into suggestions as well.

I'll start;
√ I got me some, today a short run. The 22nd run day I've managed this year. My best day so far was last saturday

Who's next?
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:17am PT
I pushed some weights this morning at the community centre, with some coaching from a knowledgeable friend. It seemed time to learn about it.

Later, I swam, so that was aerobic. A habit I developed when I did triathlons - fairly disciplined, structured workouts. I'm now back up to 3 - 4 swims a week, usually around 2,000 m.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2011 - 01:22am PT
that noob?...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:23am PT
hill sprints, 10 sets 45 seconds each @180-187 BPM. 45 second rest. Next week goes to 50/45. Three times a week, with one day rowing instead of hill sprints.

3 days a week, 2 sets 20 minutes at 160-167 BPM on stairs, threadmill and elyptical (1 day each). Squats/pushups/situps/dips in between.

1 day long hike/ski. 2 days / week climbing in gym as part of weight training on interval days.

On week 4. It sucks. But its so good.


edit - max HR is 196
LithiumMetalman

Trad climber
cesspool central
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:24am PT
2 rides a week into the skyline /Los Altos/Redwood city hills on my singlespeed.

25 min run after every climbing session so far this season.

Heading out to Marin this weekend on my singlespeed.

karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:30am PT
Sunday I had a good 2 hour cardio burn at Sunnyvale skatepark, and 2 45 minute speed bouldering sessions at planet granite sunnyvale on tues and today. These consist of 10 v1s, 10 v2s, 10 v3s and as many v4s I can get before 45 min runs out. Heart rate gets pretty high.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:35am PT
Pretty good day. Got out the door, decided it was too rainy, so came back in and headed down to the treadmill to find it serving as a clothes rack. Concluded it was time to start dinner.

Hoping to do even more tomorrow.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:39am PT
I hiked to Dales camp and climbed the Cuban Roll first go. Then walked fast back to birthday boulders against a strong wind. Felt like aerobic exercise to me!
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:40am PT
Daylight savings starts this weekend;kicking off the Tuesday/Wednesday road bike action. Also, i have a nice selection of trails right out the front door. 3,000 ft vertical or a nice long traverse.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:44am PT
It sounds like murcy is philosophical about his wannabe life on the treadmill.
The Wedge

Boulder climber
Santa Rosa & Bishop, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 02:28am PT
Chichen...That this is soo good. Did you hit the Zeppelin or Painted Cave on the way?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 02:39am PT
bike commuter
2011 to date: 43 days (of 49 week days) for 523 miles year's goal is 2400 miles commuting (average of 200 miles per month)

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:15am PT
bouldered at the gym


Squiddo can vouch for me showing up.


pushed a bunch of V0s to keep me moving and heart rate going, walking back and forth between the outside and inside areas. Finished by working on an overhanging "V2" with big holds. I was sweating by the end.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:42am PT
Ok. I'll try it. My current goal is at least 35 minutes most days of the week if climbing outside on the weekend. If not climbing outside, more aerobic exercise at least one weekend day.

This week, I've logged 22 miles, 3 hours, and a calorie burn of 1400 over 3 days. Jogged twice about 5 miles each time and bicycled twice in one day for a cumulative 12 miles.

Just ate mother in law brownie, though, doh!

wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:49am PT
As I have nothing to do in England but ride my bike and eat and sleep, well, that's what I've been doing. Just got back from a solo tour of Normandie averaging 80 miles a day, which isn't that much on a tour but the wind was gnarly, 10 hours riding into a headwind makes you pretty angry, and since I've been home, I've been averaging 60 miles a day. It's been great therapy for me. I've always been a fanatical rider, but the last couple years I was taking care of my dad(who had Lou Gehrig's disease) and didn't get to ride, which made me fat/depressed, and now I'm reversing all that. It feels like a rebirth. And I'm doing it not only for me but my dad too. In the last year of his life, when he literally couldn't move a single muscle except for his eyes, I can only imagine how much he thought about moving his body. So, while I'm able to, I will! I've lost 25 lbs since last summer.
Right now, a beautiful day is dawning on the North Sea coast of Kent where I live, and I'll be riding from my house near Boughton-under-Blean, to Broadstairs and back (home of Charles DIckens-I've seen his house!), 60-75 miles depending on which route I take. I'm just drinking tea until my eyes start to vibrate, then I know I've had enough caffeine. Then I'm off!
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 03:58am PT
Wow. Good on ya. Have a great ride Wildone!
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 04:14am PT
What are you doing up at this hour? Go to bed! It's only 9 AM here, haha.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2011 - 09:45am PT
a special brownie,Susu?

i'm glad this thread has taken hold. I'll flesh out my own entry in a bit.

Daytrippin' to the valley today. My only hope for this is to go aerobic on the approach...
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:32am PT
Doing my usual "pyramid" workouts at the health club, usually starting on the crunch machine, then leg extensions, followed by the "love-handles machine" (oblique abdominals), bench presses, upright barbell rowing , leg curls, and the leg press machine. After I break a sweat, I do low-pulley rowing and flyes. I work in leg adduction and abduction. If I start getting too tired, I take a few laps around the indoor track at a brisk walk, and then resume my self-inflicted torture.

I do this 2-3 days a week; on the off days I take a short walk (0.9 miles) out to the State Highway and back, weather permitting. This is in addition to unrolling hay bales everyday while feeding the moo cows. Now that calving is in full swing, Im making several trips a day on foot, down to the close pasture to see if I have any newbies.

Other that this, I take life pretty easy as a retired gentleman rancher.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:37am PT
Crossfit 2-3 days a week, then climbing on the weekends. The workouts change every day, some are more strength oriented (low rep, heavy olympic lifts), some are more anaerobic, some purely aerobic. The last one I did was a fun combination; heavy, high intensity, with some body weight movements mixed in. For time:

10 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
10 muscle ups
8 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
8 muscle ups
6 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
6 muscle ups
4 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
4 muscle ups
2 overhead squats @ 135#
Run 200M
2 muscle ups

It took me 20 min, 30 sec. Not great, but decent. I've been digging the oly lifts more and more. I've found them to be very therapeutic for repetitive use injuries, and the anticipation/satisfaction of putting up big weight is similar to pulling a hard crux. The heavy, low rep schemes allow you to build strength without adding extra bulk, which is obviously important for maintaining a good strength to weight ratio.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:43am PT
Being a nordic racer, with the final two marathons coming up, aerobic training is the sea I swim in...Trick right now is to taper off. Wednesday did two sets of 30 X 30's warmed up good, then ski like a bat out of hell for 30 seconds, stop and pant or slide slow for 30, then repeat. I do this for 12 minutes as a set then rest for 4 minutes and do it again. Typical workout is three sets, Wednesday I had to run to a grant interview so stopped at two, but that was probably good as I need to keep some intensity but reduce volume right now. Waxing this morning for the Bjornloppet in Bear Valley, 20k skate, one of the best courses in the Sierra.

When in Berkeley my favorite is to do 4minutes X 4 times at level 4, on the Claremont Ridge Trail. This trail is fantastic for any kind of pace. I hill bound it with ski poles, mimic-ing the diagonal stride.

Any kind of regular aerobic exercise is really good for you!

Peter
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 11, 2011 - 11:06am PT
xc & bc skiing in the backyard, I try to average 50 miles a week between 15K & 25K elevation gain.



it's melting fast tho...


then everything turns greenie and it's time for the bike.




Mees

climber
Mar 11, 2011 - 11:14am PT
Heavy low reps don't build bulk? lmao, heavy low reps are exactly what one does to build muscle mass. Crossfit also doesn't program aerobic workouts, pretty much the antithesis of their philosophy. I do agree with your assesment of Oly weight lifting being very good for injuries etc though.
there are more efficient ways to burn fat and condition than aerobic workouts but aerobic workouts are generally more fun. I do at least 3-4 a week (trail running) but it's more for the enjoyment of being out on the trail, for mental toughness, and to attempt to be well rounded in regard to overall fitness.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:10pm PT
Jay, no special brownies... tho could a used one to get to sleep earlier!
Now that I see it in print, that damn brownie cost me 1/3 of my calorie burn for the week. Double doh!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
i have the flu.

5th day.

it's definitely testing the lungs.


this is st: maybe we should have a thread for liver stress tests, too.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 11, 2011 - 12:25pm PT
If you want to build muscle mass, you should be performing reps in the 8-12 range, and reaching failure at the end of that range. That's most effective for triggering hypertrophy. Low rep, 1-5, at 85% or more of your max, triggers more of a neurological response. Your body recruits more muscle fibers and higher threshold fibers that aren't used in the higher rep schemes. Look at a weight class athlete's (ie fighter's) strength program. They will most likely be focused on the lower end of the rep range because it builds max power and targets the fast twitch fibers that make you more explosive, with minimal bulk gain. Same reason power lifters look very different than body builders.

They program in 5-10k runs occasionally, with nothing else mixed in. These types of days are pretty rare though, maybe a few times a year.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:02pm PT
I've climbed 5 of the last 8 days and will climb 2 of the next 3 as well. Of course if I keep up that pace for long my shoulders and elbows will explode!
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 01:58pm PT
Just got back, 76 miles round trip from my house Near Boughton-Under-Blean to an old viking ship on the other side of Ramsgate and back, all along the coast on a bikeway. Radical. 5+ hours with a fish and chips stop in there!
So beautiful today. It was really clear and just stunningly beautiful, plus the tide was out so there was a lot of interesting stuff to look at. Going to Oxford tomorrow! (on the train)
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:38pm PT
Pretty much, Kate. I dreamed about being able to ride my bike so much, like I used to, for a couple of rough years there. Trouble was, I was my dad's caretaker on the weekends, which his live-in caretaker had off, and that to me was much much more important-being with my dad. But the whole thing was just so damn heartbreaking, seeing such a lovely, intelligent, big strong man reduced like that, and just keeping it together for us kids, showing us how to die when you've been dealt a hand like that. I really could have used a ride, just for my mental stability. But every time I would start to spin out about how badly I needed to flog myself up some big climb on my bike, I would think about how damn insignificant my problems were compared to my dad's.

My mom holding my nephew with my dad and I. They loved their matching hats. My dad was only supposed to live a few more months when my paraplegic little sister found out she was pregnant. But my dad toughed it out with incredible determination.

My dad in the early stages. He never lost that spark, or his sense of humor, even in the worst of times....

How I'll remember him:
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:51pm PT
nice ben.

man, you look like yr dad.

glad yr having a good time over there.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
You all are giving me a serious bout of inadequacy.

The most heart rate elevation I've gotten today was standing up quickly from my computer to get the Ben & Jerry's out of the freezer. Phew! Luckily a little cold bite takes the edge off that racing heart.

The closest thing I do to cardio is top-roping at the gym. Scratch that. Grunting up wideness is the most cardio thing I do. But that doesn't happen all too often.

I know.












I'm gonna die.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:00pm PT
Thanks Kate. I've been having a pretty tough time about it lately. I understand that he had to go, and I'm ok with dying, I mean, I understand it's part of the process, but aside from that, I miss him the same as if he'd gone on a year long trip and I hadn't seen him in that time, you know? I just really miss him. But, I did get to show him western Montana! When he got sick, but he could still kinda walk, I got us all some plane tix to spokane, we rented a car and drove over for a week. Went to a bunch of lakes and rivers, hung out with my lady's family, and he got to meet them all. That was really important to me.

One thing I'm gonna do, is mix up some of his ashes with some of my ink, and give myself a tattoo of Orion over my heart. My dad's concrete and construction company were called Orion, cause' he was a hunter like my dad, and my dad was an amateur astronomer. Before he passed, he gave me his 14 inch Meade schmidt-cassegrain. I was in a star club with him when I was a kid, and used to make summer roadtrips to observatories like the one in Flagstaff, but it's been a long time since I was stargazing. I look forward to setting that thing up in Western Montana! Mariposa didn't have a lot of light pollution, but Troy is gonna be RAD!

But to get back on topic (I apologize), we who are able have to get out there and kick some ass! Too, too soon, we're gonna be old, sitting on park benches, and some whippersnapper is gonna whiz by on a bike, or run by on foot, and we're gonna wish that all those days we wasted were instead spent going like a maniac. Cause that's all we got. A few short years to kick ass.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
Wildone, you're dad was lucky to have such a committed son, and you must have been lucky to have a dad that inspired that commitment from you.
Brandon-

climber
Done With Tobacco
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
I'm checking in...



....with jenny craig!

Need to bust 10 pounds and get myself back to my fit 5'10'', 160lbs natural self.

Trail running is something that I love, but with no MCL in one knee and no ACL in the other, it hurts these days.

Thanks for the guilt trip, all!
superbum

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 11, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_fCqg92qks
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 11, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
Gym this morning, 40min of stairs and various -ups interspersed in 2 hours bouldering + 2 hours routes.
Rolfr

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Mar 11, 2011 - 08:28pm PT
3 hour climbing gym sessions 3 times a week during the rainy season and 45min run 2-3 times a week. But for all you 50 + climbers out there, the Mighty Hiker sent me this link about overtraining.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/when-exercise-is-too-much-of-a-good-thing/?hp

I know of at least two other climbers beside me with heart arrhythmia, two of us were never big running or cardio freaks, but the common factor may be extended periods of maximum heart rate from continuous difficult climbing. Or that sh#t happens and parts wears out as you get old!
Bobert

Trad climber
boulder, Colorado
Mar 11, 2011 - 08:39pm PT
My philosophy on the subject is "Just do something!" I especially love trail running as an aerobic workout, but don't feel like doing it when its cold and snowy. The gym is also good. Weight training gives you super results, but you gotta do it. I'd rather go climbing.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 11, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
Hey Steve L, nice to see a fellow Crossfitter posting up. I follow the main site programming 3-4 days a week, and trail running is my main passion so nice thread, Jaybro.
I also follow Crossfit Endurance training for my running so do a speed session with the local affiliate every week. Most of my runs are tempo runs so the HR gets up there and stays there. No more long slow distances for me, doing 100 mile weeks with no time for a life.
I am doing a trail marathon on Sunday and cannot wait to hit the dirt :)
skywalker

climber
Mar 12, 2011 - 12:51am PT
Well to those following this thread...I use to work off ladders all day, climb afterward, and weight train after that everyday. I now have a 2 year old (almost). I'm a science teacher now and Dad as stated and we're talking 10% of what I used to do. I'm going to the desert this spring break for four days and I really haven't climbed much more than bouldering since my daughter was conceived. But what I have been doing is throwing my daughter in the baby backpack and huffin' in it up the mesa behind our house as often as weather permits (take 1 and 1/2 hrs round trip). Legs are key to climbing in my opinion and so long as you know how to climb and you got legs and cardio, the rest is easier...


Shout out to climbing parents!


S...
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 12, 2011 - 02:20am PT
Today I lugged frankies up the mountain. Not by choice, mind you, but it certainly put me into aerobic range. This wet bastard must've been 30 lbs.

wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 12, 2011 - 02:31am PT
I hate that /\ /\.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2011 - 02:39am PT
Well, the approach biathalon to both Reed's and 5 & Dime, today didn't really cut it aerobically. Maybe the laps on Stone groove...
Tomorrow is a trailrunning day though. Last Saturday I ran 15 Miles, I don't think I'm going to top that, tomorrow.
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Mar 12, 2011 - 08:44am PT

30 minutes 2X/week: 28spm/2:00-2:10/500m
30 minutes 2X/week: strength sprints (24-25spm/1:15-1:30/500m)

...my dog would disown me if I cut into any more of her run time!!

Wildone, I agree with eK: the ashes & ink idea sounds nice.

Brandon, may I suggest subbing an erg workout for a trail run?! You might be surprised... AND it's a heck-of-alot easier on the knees than running while still having the ultimate capability of kickin' yo bootayh!

bb

The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:55am PT
Nice rower setup! I only row as a warmup or when it comes up in a Crossfit workout and whew is it strenuous. Yet there are people who would rather row 5K than run 5K.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2011 - 10:13am PT
Whoa Nellie, nobody expects the spanish inquisition!
so many choices... for reasons I won't go into, I once had to train for a trail marathon on a step machine.

Another time I took a gym leader fall and broke my foot and ankle. This was Dec 18th. I had another trail marathon set for for February 5th. I couldn't take the impact of running, so I did an intensive training program of Skate skiing and rollerblading. It worked, and I successfully ran one of my slowest marathons on one of the fastest courses!
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 12, 2011 - 12:54pm PT
Jaybro,

Good thread man. I'm in.






Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
Just back from 3.5 mile 5 finger trail run on a beautiful morning
runs to date in '11 23
114.5 miles

on to pullups, dips and bouldering.

Thanks Quartz, have fun and good luck!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 12, 2011 - 04:42pm PT
i just got back from the store.

now im exhausted.

1st time up & out of the house since the flu got bad.

lance armstrong can bite me.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 12, 2011 - 04:46pm PT
OK, so I swam 30,300 m in February, which is reasonable, though hardly stellar. (A serious recreational swimmer or triathlete might do twice that.) And it's not going to help me get through the narrows, or the Harding slot. But it helps. Plus I started to do some other stuff - stretches, weights - which should be good for me.

Can't let ThinRad get ahead.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Mar 12, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
castle session for a couple hours, not much aerobic really, but managed to at least not watch tv all morning.




murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 12, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
An hour's run, peak-bagging in SF.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:00pm PT
Alrighty, this thread inspired me to finally add regular aerobic/cardio to my workout schedule. I train climbing stuff (hangboard/campus/bouldering/4x4s/core) and some oppositional muscles around a periodization scheme, but I'm lazy and never really do more than random aerobic on my "off" training days and never structured or regularly...maybe once a week, if I'm lucky

Went to the bike shop today, picked up some new bar wrap, and finally a cheap computer. Never, in many many years of road and mtn biking have I put a comp on the bike, always meant to, been "meaning to" for 15 years...also put new batts in the HR monitor so I'm getting serious. So now I can track ride distance/season distance/speed, etc.

Today a little warm up then a quick 10mi blast up to and partially around Lake Perris and back, about 45min of worktime then a 5min or so cooldown.

Got a gym with weight room/bikes/nautilus and locker room/showers where I work, and low traffic flat roads for biking and employer allows 3hrs/week during workday for exercise, so Tue/Wed/Thu I can get it done while on the clock and breakup the workday. Yes!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:05pm PT
An hour's run, peak-bagging in SF.

Me, too. I mean, except for the SF part.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Mar 12, 2011 - 09:44pm PT
Put on the backpack with 30 or so pounds and the boots. 2.5 miles over rolling roads. Just wanted to get the feel of it. Gotta start somewhere.
Thomas

Trad climber
The Tilted World
Mar 12, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
Six more miles with a ten year old dog. I'll call it good for now.

Cheers!
tinker b

climber
the commonwealth
Mar 12, 2011 - 11:14pm PT
twenty minutes of hula hooping to fast bluegrass. 2- 8.5' diameter (little) hoops.
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Mar 13, 2011 - 09:17am PT
Six more miles with a ten year old dog. I'll call it good for now.

Higgs IS gettin' his Frosty Paws afterwards, right?? AbbyDog thanks you for cluing me into the doggy ice cream, Thomas!

BB
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 13, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
Knee won't let me run but I can do the Stairmaster. 5 Miles or 75 minutes whatever comes first. A little bit of weight work after. It's a 7 days a week thing. Missed 2 days driving up here to Washington a couple weeks ago. Probably won't be able to keep it up when the Outage starts:-)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
3.5 mile 5 finger pavement run. Stopped at the par course and did 10 warm up pullups in the middle.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 14, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
Totally resting today, some stretching, but Saturday, placed 4th in the Bjornloppet (Bear Valley race) 20k skate, and 4th again yesterday in the 10k classic. This weekend is the big marathon, the Gold Rush, 45k skate at Royal Gorge, so this week will be pretty chill, some speed work and a short interval workout, and lots of rest.

Peter
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 14, 2011 - 10:15pm PT
Checkin in over here boss. 5min warmup -> 20min nautilus circuit legs and pushing (shoulders/chest/tris) -> 25min/100 floors stairmaster -> 5 min cooldown.

Climbing gym tomorrow.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 14, 2011 - 11:28pm PT
Pete, have fun at the Gold Rush!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 15, 2011 - 12:30am PT
inadvertently walked 10 miles today...
4.5 of them intentional...
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 12:34am PT
4.5 miles on the treadmill in 50 minutes.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2011 - 12:39am PT
Way to go Peter!

Um, I hate to ask, Ed, but....

MisterE

Social climber
Cinderella Story, Outa Nowhere
Mar 15, 2011 - 12:57am PT
Kenpo today, lots of aerobic stuff in the P90X!

Skip and I are going to look GOOD for the wedding!
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:11am PT
I love p90x; my 2 favs are plyo and kenpo. I especially like the yelling part!
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:13am PT
Jaybro,
great idea tracking progress here, it always motivates me to report my workouts.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:15am PT
On a related note, how many marathoners are here? How many have you done?
I'm at 8, I won't tell you my times...
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 15, 2011 - 01:22am PT
I've done five or six marathons, two as part of triathlons. None very fast, although I did a 38:40 10 km once, BITGOD when p'terodactyls nested on the Chief.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 15, 2011 - 10:55am PT
Going to get up any minute for a jog. Probably slower than I should, but
will shoot for the long-way... about an hour.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2011 - 11:30am PT
S.Leeper, 48 marathons/Ultras mostly trail, all slow.

Right now I'm groggy but will follow the susu plan, after some more coffee...
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 15, 2011 - 02:15pm PT
Any of you folks take and/or chart your resting heart rate when you wake up?

I did it almost everyday during several training cycles back in 2003-2006, when I was actually doing a fair amount of aerobic work (primarily biking). And it was very useful to see how well you were recovering and to tweak your schedule and workouts. Seeing it graphically, on month-long charts was cool. I photocopied some month long grids with HR on the vert axis from a triathlon training book I've got.

Now I'm curious if I even still have those charts from back then. A normal RHR for me back then was about 40-45. After a heavy training day and/or not enough sleep or too much beer, it would be mid to high 50s. Anything about 6 beats above my normal, fully recovered baseline for that point in time, I'd alter the next workout and if 10 or more above I'd cut the workout way back (essentially a short low intensity "recovery ride") or cut it completely.

Lately RHR is around 50, which was one of the things that prompted me to start back up with the aerobic work.
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 15, 2011 - 05:17pm PT
18 aerobics classes (30 min. each) in last 3 weeks
Turned 59 on Sat.
33 mile road ride on new bike Sunday (Cannondale Synapse)
Laugh everytime the instructer says check your pulse - lets see if I divide the atrial rate of 300 + by the ventricular rate of 140 = 2.14 :)
Looking forward to some mountain biking.
On a side note some climber friends from Chattanooga e-mailed me they recently rode the new trails built by Volkswagen at their Chattanooga plant and said they are awesome. Quote "Those germans know how to build a mountain bike trail"
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 15, 2011 - 06:49pm PT
I just returned from Lifetime Fitness, and I'm now doing some 12 ounce curls usinig the Corona style weights; all augmented by hot salsa and Tostitos. And I feel fine!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 15, 2011 - 08:54pm PT
In a more serious vein, I did 4 sets of abdominal crunches on the crunch machine in a pyramid: 25 crunches at 80#, 20 at 90#, 18 at 100#, qnd 12 at 110#. Then on to the leg press and 2 sets of 15 at 90#; 2 sets of leg extensions of 15 reps at 75#, and 2 sets of low pulley rows, followed by oblique abdominal machine, upright rowing, leg curls, bench press, and flyes. Then... Well, I don't spare myself while training to rock climb. I then came home and took a small afternoon walk of about a mile. Not too bad, at 72. I'm not even tired but am a bit sore. Tomorrow I just take a long walk on the ranch after unrolling a big round hay bale by hand. Then Thursday and Saturday back to the health club.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 15, 2011 - 09:08pm PT
Berthoud Pass this afternoon, four powder laps between Stanley Mt. & School of Mines Peak about 3,956 elevation gain.


Then had to stop in Empire for some chocolaty covered bacon and beer so maybe the day is a wash.





goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 15, 2011 - 09:25pm PT
oh boy, a chart!
we're getting serious now.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 15, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
S. Leeper, four marathons here. Last one in 2000 was four hours two minutes, first one in 1984 was two hours fifty-five minutes. Not bad for a chica.

Not bad 'tall!

I would give my left nut to get under 4 hours.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 16, 2011 - 09:40am PT
Under 3 hours is excellent for 'a chica'! Great job.
I love to run marathons and longer - I am too slow for shorter distances.
Besides, I love being out on the trails all day (and all night in the case of 100-milers).
I never use charts or HR monitors so it is interesting to read how athletes here use them. I am sure they help improve training and racing, and recovery and should be paying attention ;)
However I do run time trials every so often at various distances as a way to measure progress.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2011 - 09:48am PT
I've never come close to running a sub three hour marathon. I did a 3:20 once, and once on a 50 miler I ran sub 4 for the first marathon part. Those are the fastest by far. That's what I like about trail running theya re slower and it suits me better. I'm more of a stubborn plodder than a sprinter. I think it's the same thing that allow me satisfaction with increments of a couple inches at a time in hard offwidths....
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 16, 2011 - 10:26am PT
I ran two marathons in 1997 and 1998; the second was just under 3 hours---thank god, because otherwise I might have had to run a third. Then I did a little better at shorter distances (best was 16:37 in a road 5K), which I enjoyed more. But those times, not that they're anything special, cost me a lot of training miles, and I got bored churning them out and moved onto surfing and climbing. I still operate a website I put up in 1997; at one point it had a thriving forum, but people left as it got dominated by shouting matches. The workout log and calculator are still used, though: http://merv.stanford.edu (check the HTML---crude even for 1997).


The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 16, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
Jaybro, I have the same attitude to running - I am not a natural runner but I do love the challenge of seeing how far I can run and enjoy every minute of it. Trails in the mountains are my favourite for the scenery and the softer running surface, even if it is rocky.

I did do one road marathon, Boston, in 2007, and finished in 03:34. This was one week after doing a trail 50-miler, and I spent the two days before the marathon back country skiing - tempting fate :)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2011 - 04:58pm PT
4.5 mile 5 finger pavement run , 122.5 miles ytd

Glad to hear it Lisa. I think we're alike in this.
One of my favorite runs was The Silver State 50/50 in I think, '96. I ran the short version, a 'long' 50k that they said was really 34.5 miles. Rainy day in May. Started by a 24hr bar in Reno. The proprieter let us hang out out of the weather. The pub was filled with runners, and people having 5:00 am cocktails and shaking their heads at the peopel in runing short sin the 45º dawn!

The first part ran up 10,000' Peavine mtn, then back down below 5k'. The second part went up the other side of the valley to a similarly high point. Rain, hail, slipeery clay mud, the works. There was a six mile section running on top of hardpack snow, you could feel the cold radiate up your legs. There were some elite, road runners hating life on this run, especially yht woman right ahead of me (who had won a 50 miler in San jose two weeks before) who I watched get her shoe sucked off her foot into the mud and step down into the muck in her sock I thought it was one of the coolest adventures ever! They had bowls of ibuprofen next to bowls of M & M's at the aid stations, red licorice and hot soup at some! Really slow, really fun! It ended at a posh suburban clubhouse. they let us do cannonballs into the pool in our running clothes! A barbecue followed. I got a belt buckle, And a T-shirt!
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Mar 16, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
I did do one road marathon, Boston, in 2007, and finished in 03:34. This was one week after doing a trail 50-miler, and I spent the two days before the marathon back country skiing - tempting fate :)

How do you do Boston as one road marathon--don't you need to qualify for Boston by doing (at least one) other road marathons?
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 16, 2011 - 05:38pm PT
Dunno about Lisa's situation, but about 20% of Boston entrants are running for charities, and these folks do not need to qualify with prior marathon times.

Edit: See below: Lisa qualified on trails (which is harder than on the road). Impressed by you ultrathoners! Nothing ultra about today but it'll do: 4 hilly miles w/stairs.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 16, 2011 - 07:30pm PT
Jaybro, nice 50K+++ The more miserable the conditions the more fun I have. Probably because I have an excuse for my slow time ;)
Dave Horton is the RD for a number of trail ultras in VA and all his are the stated distance +++ unknown miles, or 'Horton' miles.

As for qualifying for Boston, I qualified on a very easy, mostly flat trail marathon, in a time of 03:28, to my surprise. I did not intend to qualify but once I realized I figured I should do one road marathon to see what it was like. It was a different experience to have crowds lining almost the entire course, including all the occupants of a retirement home ( who seemed rather out of it). The pavement was relentless though and I was pretty sore after it.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Mar 16, 2011 - 08:47pm PT
OK, thanks for cluing me in on Boston. By the way, when I reread my post, I saw it could be read as some sort of "challenge"--I didn't intend it that way.
I tried to train for a marathon about 5 years ago, came down with Achilles tendinitis so couldn't do it, am trying again but now I think I'm getting plantar fasciitis. We'll see what happens, but I'll try my mid-week run this evening (5 miler). Good luck all you aerobic heads: it's a tough "job" but someone's gotta do it.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 16, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
Back from Red Rocks... I'll play... I'd have to look up my best 5k time, but my best 10k time was 34:32, St. Pattie's Day Race, Spring 1982. Frank Shorter was in the race and, cocky youngster that I was, I figured I'd run behind him for the first mile. I crossed the 1 mile mark in 5:03 and Frank was just barely in sight ahead. Needless to say, I slowed a bit after that.

Yesterday 1 hr 16 min on the mountain bike, today 3.12 mile run.
20 lbs down, 10 to go.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 17, 2011 - 10:39am PT
Top of the morning to ya! Going jogging 35 minutes to an hour.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 10:43am PT
Rock on Susu! I'm on soccer uncle detail at present, but will get after it a bit later!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 17, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
RHR this a.m. @ 49. On the bike at 5pm today, projecting in Josh tomorrow.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
2.5 mile, muddy, 5 finger run in Tilden.

Multiple ambulances and fire trucks on inspiration trail (closed to traffic usually, paved) yikes!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 17, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
1hr 10min on the bike, 18mi. Stayed in the 70-80% max hr range.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 17, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
Got 5.25 miles in 61 minutes today on the Stairmaster.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:08am PT
I got 3 CF workouts in this week, all high intensity, anaerobic, pass-out-when-your-done type affairs. Yesterday and today are rest days, with climbing this weekend. If the point of this thread is to motivate us to address the weaknesses in our game, then for me, that is sleep. I see fitness as equal parts exercise, diet, and rest. Sacrificing one of those hinders success at the other two. I look forward to the physical activity, and my diet is clean, but for me, the crux has always been getting enough rest. Over the past decade, I've probably averaged 5-6 hours a night of sleep; not nearly enough for me. Anyway, this week I made it a point to stop doing everything early, and get to bed. On Monday night, I got 9 hours of sleep; a great way to start the week. Tuesday was 8 hours, 7 on Wednesday, and 8 hours last night. The difference in my workouts was definitely noticeable. We'll see how it carries over to climbing tomorrow. Obviously, a big part of it is being able to fall and stay asleep once you've gone to bed, but I'm going to stay focused on putting down the books/computer by 8:30pm, and catching zzz's by 9.
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:23am PT
Checkout "fitness links" on my blog @http://www.garagegymtraining.com/
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:15am PT
Normal cardio for me is 30 min on the elliptical. It's a heart-rate driven model so it adjusts the resistance to keep you in your target zone. For me, at 61, my zone is 128. This burns about 350-400 calories per session. I can tell when I am over-training since my calories burned will be under 350. On a good day, like yesterday, I burned 428 for the same 30 minute period. Heart rate while laying in bed about to sleep was 42.
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:22am PT
JayBro-How are those 5-Fingers? Any changes in running style due to the lack of jacked up sole underneath the heel?

15-20 miles a week half on very muddy Forest Park trails.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2011 - 11:39am PT
I'm getting more used to them all the time. The farthest I've run in them is five miles. I use conventional (Sportiva) trail shoes for longer runs.
The feel is def different and as you know, you naturally shift to a different running style in them. They seem to make your feet / lower legs stronger.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 18, 2011 - 01:56pm PT
A few months ago Mike recommended a cool book called "Born to Run: A hidden tribe, superathletes, and the Greatest race"

It was on the best seller list for a while, and luckily our library had a copy. It was one of the best books I've ever read on sport.

It's a journalist following/writing on the ultra scene and the Tarahumara indians of Mexico, but with tangents into running science, injuries, why these natives can run huge distances in basically a homemade sandal and little food after getting wasted on homemade beer the night before. Full of colorful characters and intriguing looks at african tribes running down prey on foot, a college coach who's methods made multiple 3rd tier schools a powerhouses of distance running.

The relevant point here is, it looks at common running injuries and more or less points to the fact that modern cushioned and motion control running shoes CAUSE injury, rather than prevent it. It's a compelling case for running in the 5-finger or similar unstructured "shoes".
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2011 - 02:19pm PT
I just read this book as well and would recommend it to all. It's an eyeopener.

it was talking with Mike and reading that book that got me into exploring the 5 finger thing.

Another interesting tangent in that book is that he suggests that Castaneda was really talking about the Tarahumara. That having Don Juan be a Yaqui was a smokescreen. It makes sense in my experience, I used to live near a Yaqui town (Guadalupe, Az)and they didn't strike me the way Carlos described them. For one thing they're catholic and have no tradition of shamans/Brujos...


Here's the quote, From Born to run;

"Carlos Castaneda, author of the wildly popular Don Juan books of the ‘60’s was almost unquestionably referring to the Tarahumera when he described magical Mexican shamans with astonishing wisdom and endurance. But in ab apparent twinge of Compassion dekiberately misidentified the tribe as the Yaquis. Castaneda apparently felt that, in the event that his books launched an invasion of peyote-hungry hippies, the badass Yaquis could hold their own a lot better than the gentle Tarahumara."
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 02:27pm PT
Seconding the post about the importance of rest and recovery. Yesterday skied 15k, did some speed pickups (12 sec) and then two sets of 30X30's. Then got a massage, which I haven't done since the early 90's. Slept deeper and longer than usual, and am chilling today. Sunday is the big Gold Rush marathon ski race, and we are supposed to get dumped on for the next 4 days.

I do need to shovel the 3 feet off the deck before the next 7 feet come in, now shoveling "up" as the adjacent slopes have about 12 feet on them! But I am doing it in small shifts to keep the abs and back from tiring.

Eating yams and drinking water and getting ready to SLAM (skate like a maniac) on Sunday morning in a blizzard.

Peter
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 18, 2011 - 05:19pm PT
5.33 Miles in 64 minutes on the Stairmaster. Little slower than yesterday:-(
Mees

climber
Mar 18, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
Beware of the minimal shoes and five finger things. They take getting used to, if you don't work into them gradually you'll increase your chances of injury quite a bit, especially if you run on hard surfaces. I've seen it happen to several folks. Personally, I'd recommend just staying off the pavement and run on softer surfaces, with regualar running shoes but to each their own like anything else. A lot of 3rd world runners run bare foot and do very well, thing is they lived walked/ran bare foot all their lives and their feet, legs etc are used to it. Most americans don't grow up going bare foot. Another benefit of the minimal shoe is to encourage mid heel striking rather than heel striking, something you can work on if you practice it.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 18, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
Another interesting tangent in that book is that he suggests that Castaneda was really talking about the Tarahumara. That having Don Juan be a Yaqui was a smokescreen. It makes sense in my experience, I used to live near a Yaqui town (Guadalupe, Az)and they didn't strike me the way Carlos described them. For one thing they're catholic and have no tradition of shamans/Brujos...

There may not have been any Curanderos practicing among the Yaqui you knew in Guadalupe, but there are definitely Yaqui shamanic traditions. The Yaqui synthesis of indigenous and Catholic tradition is pretty amazing, and you're right, it doesn't much resemble anything Castaneda describes. This is a piece from 1980:

http://parentseyes.arizona.edu/southcorner/curandero.html

This Pascua Yaqui site has really nice links to Yaqui docs and oral literature collections, including Lary Evers's South Corner of Time and this great issue of JSW:

http://parentseyes.arizona.edu/journalofthesw/index.html

Castaneda has long since been revealed as a fraud. During the period he claimed to have been in Mexico, UCLA Library logs show that he was sitting in the LIbrary reading books about peyote and shamanism. His works are cut-and-pasted from other people's work on a wide array of different indigenous traditions. And some of the are just fabrications.

Doesn't mean that you can't learn about running from the Tarahumara, just that you can't get there from Carlos.



steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
Mountain bike, 20 miles, all rocky single track.
Down 21.5 lbs, 7.5 to go.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2011 - 11:54pm PT
Fascinating, thanks Kerwin. I always thought Carlos' stuff was not as it appeared, and wondered how much was what. But I never knew much about Yaqui tradition besides what was conducted locally, where I was then, twenty odd years ago...

I think it's more, inspired by, my own construct of, the Tarahumara...
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:13am PT
I managed to up both the reps and weight loads on my health club pumping-iron circuit training today. Up by 20 pounds and 3 more reps on the leg presses and an additional set of 18 reps; up by 15 pounds on the flyes. Up by 10 pounds on the triceps machine and up by 5 reps on both torso-twist machine and at max of weight that I use on abdominal crunches. Pretty sore tonight!

Took two 1 mile walks today; once before workout and another after workout.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:15pm PT
always wanted to go to tarahumara country.
Pewf

climber
nederland
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:31pm PT
Pulled chariot + child on mtn bike for maybe an hour and a half. Discovered half way through that releasing hand brake on trailer would improve performance.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 01:37pm PT
OT, so KLK I've been thinking about the Tarahumara and parallels with the Stolbisti. The first an isolated group in Mexico with a tradition of extreme running, and the other isolated in Siberia with a tradition of bold free soloing (okay, now it's about climbing). Is it the isolation and opportunity that does it? There must be other similar obsessive traditions that have evolved other places and in history. Got any stories?
I'd love to discover that the Shoshoni invented the invert....


Meanwhile, On Topic;

Raining "like a tall cow pissing on a flat rock" here. The trails are a sheet silicate nightmare, in my hood currently. i think after I finish my taxes to I'm going to put on some wet weather armor and run the paved bicycle trail loop in a bit. Real running shoes and everything...



Pewf, at least it's probably a better workout with the trailer wheels locked up!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:56pm PT
yeah, the stolby deal is pretty amazing, i'd like to know a lot more about that history, along with some of the other indignous history in places like the urals and caucasus.

of course, other isolated, rural populations also develop distinctive cultural practices, like taking lots of drugs, elaborating conspiracy theories, and posting on the internet.

the castaneda thing was part of the oral legend of u of arizona and then also ucla. sort of a sad story, really, especially for the yaqui who now are "known" to americans largely as the objects of castaneda's drug-addled fantasies. but it was also a disaster for anthro and especially ed spicer, a really good anthropologist who stuck his neck out for castaneda and vouched for him. it was a disaster when the hoax was basically revealed-- a black eye for spicer and his program and a disaster for the sort of young turk wing of anthro that had been strongly influenced by youth culture.

it's one of the reasons that many ethnolinguists became much more careful about the way they approached native oral literature, which is a good thing. lary and felipe's treatment of the yaqui testamento in that special issue of jsw is a good example. a very respectful and judicious historical introduction, then photos of the original doc; transcription of the yaqui version; and then careful spanish and english translations.

and it's great running, hiking, climbing country so not entirely ot.

heh.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Mar 19, 2011 - 03:37pm PT
I just did my first run of the year. 4 1/2 mile trail run barefoot.

It's the only way I run. I do most of my hiking barefoot too.

Tough Feet!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 04:10pm PT
I'd like to know more about the marathon monks, but @$356, I think i'll have to stay in the dark....
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:19pm PT
Born to run was almost infuriating in it's omission of Jim Dunlop, an ultra runner active in the races involving tarahumara indians. You may recall the "man against horse" segment of the book? The author goes into great detail about two guys who beat the horses, but makes no mention whatsoever of the first man in the race's 80 some odd year history to beat the horses just a couple years before the two guys it focused on. Kinda strange.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:19pm PT
5.60 miles in 60 minutes on the Stairmaster today.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:31pm PT
I'd like to know more about the marathon monks, but @$356, I think i'll have to stay in the dark....

the wages of poverty is ignorance . . . .

heh
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 19, 2011 - 04:43pm PT
yeah, i'm with jaybro, not dropping 60 bucks on a book from that press.

anyone read this? it has one essay by martha nussbaum who is a really serious scholar.

http://www.amazon.com/Running-Philosophy-Marathon-Mind-Everyone/dp/1405167971/ref=pd_sim_b_3

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 07:07pm PT
9 wet bicycle trail miles in full-on white guy running shoes....
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 19, 2011 - 07:21pm PT
47min hills & stairs with WATER COMING OUT OF THE SKY.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 21, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
8 mile ski for lunch up to Long Lake this afternoon.


Resting heart rate so far averaging about 45


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 12:27am PT
I tried.
I went to my usual trailhead, painstakingly got my feet into the 5 fingers, toe by toe. Deployed ipod, and set out...
Got about thirty feet, just too muddy.

I'll try again, tomorrow.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 22, 2011 - 12:30am PT
Can't you get a flipper attachment for those things?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 22, 2011 - 12:48am PT
Conflicted. Just some yoga today. This is supposed to be my 2 weeks off between training cycles. Will probably still do some ridiculously easy spinning on the bike and very light moving iron around to get some blood moving, kind of a "recovery ride" for the full-body.

It's so much easier when I can just go to the climbing gym/weightroom/bike/hangboard and just punish myself for an hour or two. Resting is hard.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 12:57am PT
NO rest for the wicked!
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 22, 2011 - 04:38am PT
Yesterday rode from my house to Dover (27 miles) on the cycle route 16, through some lovely 12th century villages. Had a brie and cranberry granary bap, a banoffee pie and two lattes. Then, rode back to canterbury on the North Downs Way, an old pilgrim route through the fields. Highlights include riding down a steep driveway into a dead end front yard with an Irish Wolfhound so big I thought it was a pony. He was friendly though.
Good day.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:06am PT
Good try Jay. Better luck today. I'm Foggy-headed, downing cups of coffee for short changing myself sleep, and to set out any minute, hoping to see the sunrise behind mt. Diablo... those brie and jam baked goods suound great tho prolly best for me not to have anything like that as I'm only shooting for 35 Minutes just to manipulate myself to begin. Did that last week and went over an hour, and another day 40 minutes. So we'll see... this ... good morn'n....
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:51am PT
got my Aerobic workout in this morning...right after my Meditation Morphine. Ho Man I'm pumped.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 10:53am PT
Where do you go Susu?
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Mar 22, 2011 - 11:26am PT
Did a 45 minute endurance training vid on my bike (on a fluid trainer) on Sunday and lifted weights yesterday. Bike again today and weights again the day after that. Repeat and repeat and repeat until the trails dry off and I can ride outside.

I've been submerging my arms up to the middle of my biceps in ice cold water for 10 minutes after every workout to try to get more blood to my elbows and heal them. So far so good. Eccentric exercises in addition to that. It's working, I'm psyched.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 22, 2011 - 11:28am PT
Yo Steve,

What is up with you? Hope it is a short stay and you are okay!

Peter
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Mar 22, 2011 - 03:22pm PT
Jay, So far around our neighborhood bike trails. Helps to go when I first wake so I actually get her done in time to get to work or before anything else can get in the way, plus it feels like I'm still dreaming and hurts less. Here are some shots with my phone from the jogs. Where do you go?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 22, 2011 - 09:49pm PT
45min.
Nautilus circuit->rowing machine.
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:10pm PT
After you polish off the WideFetish 'weak and flaccid dog' challenge and windsprints in five-toed socks, check out my man Hannibal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfsTKfUT-RQ A thing or two could be learned in the playground then applied on big stone. Right around 2:05 it starts to get interesting (!)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
3 mile, 5finger run on th einspiration pt trail (paved) in Tilden. Not a tarahumera, yagui, Stolbyite, no monks,marathon or karate, in sight! ( after BIW, ten lame (on my part) 'pitches' & 160 Pullups).

Susu I generally run on the Briones-MtDiablo trail and varients, from the Indian valley school trailhead. But also on the canal bike trail in the Pleasant hill BART, Heather farms/Bancroft/ygnacio valley area.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:25pm PT
1:16 on the mountain bike. Legs still shot from Sunday's 30 mile road ride.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 22, 2011 - 10:31pm PT
6 mile run. Texas humidity is already getting bad.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
30 miler on the bike yesterday then winter came back today and the skis came out for a 10 mile xc, breaking trail through velvet powder most of the way in a whiteout. I'm about ready for summertime.

S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:28pm PT
4 mile run around the hood. Already in the upper 80's, boo!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:32pm PT
2 hr. 43 minute drive from Indian Creek to Ouray, just got in- puff, puff!
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 24, 2011 - 08:38pm PT
Too funny JD.

5 each 30 minute aerobic sessions, 20 mile bike ride Mon - Thursday.

Still laughing puff, puff :)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
Slacker, it's not that far...


Too wet for me today, 83 pullups and I'm calling it good. going for sushi!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 24, 2011 - 09:00pm PT
Aerobic and anaerobic Shoveling!!!

Snuck in a great intensity skate ski workout on Tuesday afternoon right
Before the great blizzard hit. 4 x 4 minutes @ level 4. Hoping for skiable
Weather at the mammoth marathon next week.

Peter
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 24, 2011 - 10:53pm PT
3 days in a row of 1 hour of cardio, plus hours climbing (in the gym :( ), today will do a 2 hour cardio session...

83 pullups?? How often do you do that Jaybro? How many reps per set do you do?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 25, 2011 - 02:04am PT
Back from my 2 hour cardio...1670 calories burned according to those things...time to eat chocolate pudding and doughnuts
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2011 - 02:12am PT
Train to eat!

today was 6 sets, but it varies.
scuffy b

climber
dissected alluvial deposits, late Pleistocene
Mar 25, 2011 - 12:10pm PT
I may have done 83 pullups this century, but I couldn't guarantee that.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 25, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
My friend does 90 pullups a day every day (I think he divides it into 3 sessions of something like 3 sets by 10 reps), and he climbs very well.

I am more of a new (climbed for almost a year) to climbing (not new to working out) and want to improve my grip strength etc. So would doing a load of pull ups every day or every other day help? How often should I do pull ups for them to be useful (over-training is bad too!)?
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 25, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
Doing a bunch of pull ups wont make you a better climber, it will just make you better at pull ups. There are plenty of high level climbers who can't do 30 pull ups. On the opposite end, I can crank out 100 pull ups, and I climb like sh#t.

Some people are genetic freaks, but for most, doing 90 pull ups everyday would just be a quick road to elbow tendonitis. Determining how much is over training is highly individual; everyone's body adapts differently. If I do high reps of pull ups more that a couple of times a week, my elbows feel it. For others, like your buddy, it sounds like its no problem. You'll just need to figure it out for yourself.

Obviously, anything that will make you stronger or more fit will improve your climbing, but only to a degree. Its more important to develop technique and strength that’s specific to climbing. If you want to get stronger for climbing, rather than just strong, you'd see more gains from a hangboard regimen or time in the climbing gym. Given that you are fairly new to climbing, I would be careful with the hangboard though. Its easy to get over-psyched, over train, and get injured.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 25, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
4mi run hills/stairs, 2hrs climbing gym, *-ups, including a mere 15+10 pull-ups.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 25, 2011 - 08:23pm PT
today's my first day in weeks not fully sick. i might get to climb tomorrow.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
5 miles paved, 5 fingers barely enough rain to escape the bill of a wide fetish hat and smear my glasses...


Well said, Cho!

When i climbed my best I could do a lot of pullups. So when I can do a lot of pullups it puts me in that mindset. More of a ritual then direct carry over, there are times it seems to help directly, though.

100 in one set, Steve? yow!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 25, 2011 - 11:16pm PT
12.2 miles on the mountain bike... the catch was the 3120 feet of elevation gain. Two margs down so I don't care at this point.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 26, 2011 - 12:22am PT
I am in awe of people who do high volume pull ups. My right elbow flares up if I do too many of them, even assisted with a band.
No time for cardio today so I did 21-15-9 reps of heavy deadlifts, moderate overhead squats, for time. That burned forearms AND grip in just under 11 minutes.
I find being able to do pullups useful when bouldering in the gym, where I need to match on a hold, chin up to it then lock off one arm and then hopefully reach the next hold with the other arm.
I am nowhere near trying that move outside, on lead, mind you ;)
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 26, 2011 - 11:44am PT
Ha! In one set? No, not even close. My record for unbroken kipping/butterfly pullups is just over 30. 31 or 32 I think. Strict pullups, around 25 or so. 

Got 3 CF workouts in this week. One had 81 pullups in it. It was 100 ft of walking lunges followed by 21 pullups and 21 sit ups. The next set was 100 ft of walking lunges followed by 18 pullups and 18 sit ups. The same sequence repeated itself with the pu's and su's decreasing by 3 each time. The final set was 6 of each. It took me just over 10 min.

There's a somewhat obscure fist crack that widens into arm bars somewhere in the desert calling my name for today. Tomorrow is tbd still.

Whoa Lisa. 21-15-9 of dead lifts & oh squats? Sounds like a brutal combo!
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Mar 26, 2011 - 12:45pm PT
6 new feet of snow in Truckee. My workouts have been snow blowing and shoveling. I did get in 3 x

Gym Jones workouts in my garage gym this week.

http://www.garagegymtraining.com/

Looking forward to great spring skiing!!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 01:03pm PT
It is spring, isn't it?

I think long wide are cracks are perfect cardio exercises, take the Steck Salathe, for example....


Not wide, but i led and then toproped quarter of a man three times in rapid succession once in an effort to train climbing muscle groups in an aerobic mode....
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:05pm PT
last night was my first night in 3 weeks w/o nyquil.

but it still hurts to breath.

f*#k this sh#t, i'm ready for the desert.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 01:07pm PT
Kerwin, we're Indian Creek bound next week. Join us! call in sick, they'll believe you!

Here's some motivation
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?fbid=1688928855805&id=1015216730&aid=2085855
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:09pm PT
Dude, I'll climb with you man! In the desert, that is. I'll be down there around late April/Early May..

Yesterday, I rode to Sandwich on the Saxon Shore way (not recommended) and then back on cycle route 1. Barely made it back before sunset!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:14pm PT
appropriately, that link gives me:

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But I have some hope of getting at least a day in Flag in a couple of weeks. That seems about right at the moment-- park 30 feet away from Carnivore and pop the cooler.

I'm in the worst aerobic shape I've been in for years.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 01:17pm PT
You can navigate there on FB pamela pack-Leavitation generation

the ebb and the flow, it happens to all of us, you'll be back.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:21pm PT
yeah, i escaped the bataan death march w/o any tendon or cartilage injuries, so i'll climb ok soon enough.

the lungs will take longer. fortunately, it looks like this season there's going to be plenty of time to train down low.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:38pm PT
Alright I am crying uncle!! Still dumping, been housebound since Tuesday, except for epic shovel sessions! Power just went out again. I am going to dig out the car one more time and drive down to truckee and hopefully get in a good ski workout at Tahoe Donner. Oh how I am wanting to climb in a warm dry desert right now!

Peter
okie

Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
Mar 26, 2011 - 01:39pm PT
Lead + 3 laps on the Quarter of a Man??? Gravity has less effect on the Jaybro climbing cyborg.

Just got back from there. I need more endurance. I like the Wide, but 40 meters of it? Really?

My plantar fasciitus has returned after an absence of over a decade so I've had to back off a bit on the running. So do I need more support...or less...Those five fingers are ok until you land on something pointy on the trail.

Running is the King of all the exercises. It's elemental, more than an exercise, sort of like climbing is more than a sport.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2011 - 04:15pm PT
Peter, make a roadtrip to the lowlands and climb with us @ PGSF tomorrow! You're proabaly Too fit, anyway...

Okie, that was like ten years ago when I was just a wee sprout of an old guy, near the end of a 10 weeks stay, when I had it pretty wired, was climbing a lot, etc...
Did I miss a trip report?
injuries bite, running rules, but has it's drawbacks...
okie

Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
Mar 26, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
I sent you photos, Jay. That OW at the Beach is something I think you'll really dig.

-Bob
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 26, 2011 - 11:03pm PT
Shovelling snow is quite a workout and demands efficiency as well as endurance so if that is 'all' you did that is PLENTY!!!
Did a back country tour on Mt. Washington today (in NH). Stayed below tree line due to high winds and avy risk. I like to earn my turns and skiing on top of the deadlifts/squats yesterday worked out the kinks in my legs.
Tomorrow - running/biking/Crossfit/bouldering. Does that count as a 'brick' in triathlonspeak?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
Monday, another weird week in the life...

5 muddy trail miles, regular shoes ( Sportiva crosslites) Briones-M Diablo trail.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 28, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
6mi flat, dry-ish trail at Sawyer Camp.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 28, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
i did about 1/2 of my i-rock warmup then walked five minutes to eat chili. then i walked back five minutes.

it was uphill.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Mar 28, 2011 - 10:30pm PT
First day of warm weather and a 6 mile run above the Yuba River. The waterfalls were spectacular, the wild flowers peaking out and the wild and scenic Yuba was flowing with BIG water. A fine morning indeed. Fly the border collie probabally put in 10 miles to my 6.

S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 28, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
ran 3 miles today. nice and cool 52 degrees, aaaahhhhhh

p90x plyometrics on saturday
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 28, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
trained legs today hit 235 x5 front squats


hopefully I'll front squat 315 by the end of the year.

Then did 30 minutes of racquetball.


Jaybro,



My highest max pullups was in the low 30's



I do weighted pullups and chins these days. The heaviest being 90lbs x3 for chins.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2011 - 12:41am PT
A long time ago I used to do heavily weighted pullups, like 70-80 lbs ib for very similar numbers of reps. I'm thinking about starting up again more modestly. I've got a 20 lb weight vest. Maybe i'll see how that feels on my Sr citizen elbows, and take it from there....
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:01am PT
Used to do 3 sets of 6 reps w/70lb added (at 140 bodyweight), a different grip on each set...normal, on parallel bars, and w/triceps pushdown rope attachment thrown over a bar. Oddly, never bothered my elbows at all, whereas bodyweight max-numbers sets wreck my elbows if I do more than a set.

My two weeks off from training ends on Wed. Yes!!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:08am PT
sorry but weighted pull-ups are close to useless.

i did them for several years. they're sort of fun, because in a bodybuilding/powerlifting gym, you can blow away all the roid ragers who bench 700.

but if yr elbows are that healthy, gill is right, climb the rope. then rope with weight. then one arms with small chunks of weight.

bar chins force yr elbows through a tweak zone, and the weights make it massively worse, esp. on the negatives. and there's not much upside. not a skill you really use anywhere.

if yr determined to do it, for the fun, then do it on rings or something where yr arms can swivel so you are less likely to do massive tendon damage.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 29, 2011 - 06:06am PT
Good advice Kerwin.
Two days ago I ran for a few hours in the hills around my house which felt great, then yesterday I went on a ride from my house down to Sandwich, then up the coast around Ramsgate, Margate, Broadstairs, Whitstable, and back to my house. About 72 ish miles. Here's some pics.
Singletrack self portrait early in the day. Spring has sprung!
Major thatching.
Old port town of Sandwich.
Sandwich. Too narrow for cars.
Grape Hyacinth on the bike path.
Cooling towers at a long abandoned coal power plant.
I didn't have the heart to tell those old people that their car only had three wheels. They'll figure it out.
Bike path toward Ramsgate.
Reproduction of a viking warship. I'm sure it's fairly accurate and all, but I doubt the vikings would take their "black pig" into battle with the equivalent of a pokemon/japanimation dragon on the bow..
Ramsgate port.
Typical riding along the chalk cliffs of the seafront. The vast majority of my training miles look like this.
Broadstairs, where Charles Dickens lived.
Speak of the devil! Here's his house.
Joss Bay, where the surfing is (normally).
Castle at Joss Bay.
Old fort on a golf course.
Chalk graffiti. I guess someone knows Sean.
Reculver. Old Roman fort.

More reculver.
Minnis Bay.
Red sun setting as I'm finishing the last five miles to my house.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
wow, ben, nice.

looks like yr having amazing weather
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 29, 2011 - 01:47pm PT
My aerobic workouts are about to increase, I'm leaving in one hour for the San Rafael Swell, 245 miles of driving coming up- puff, puff.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 29, 2011 - 02:11pm PT
Indeed, K. It went from crappy to amazing in the space of mere days. I was walking around the pear orchards by my house today in shorts and sandals!
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 29, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
Fantastic Wildone.
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Mar 29, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
Don't pull a hammy Mr.Donini. You certainly log more miles than anyone I know, sounds like the good life for sure.
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 29, 2011 - 05:46pm PT
Jaybro,


I find a dip belt around the waist helps alot. Thats what bachar recommended. He also advocated weighted pullups. Heavy weighted pull-ups don't hurt my elbows, high reps do.



Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2011 - 01:15am PT
Anaerobic day. Gym pitches, 100 pullups, 90 dips a bunch of weights. Running tomorrow, early,gonna be 83º. I love weighted pullups*, but It would take a lot more than that to catch Bachar...

What's a "dip belt"?
Nice shots Wildone, way to 'smell the roses' while working out aerobically!

are you an East bay guy Vitally



*Once did two with a 110 woman on my back, might have done more, but she distracted me....
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 30, 2011 - 01:21am PT
on Sunday did the 4 summit loop on Mt Diablo(supposedly 5000ft of elevation gain), most of it with 5.5 gallons of weight in my pack for training. Monday and tuesday had hour sessions on stationary bike..
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Mar 30, 2011 - 10:44am PT
Jaybro,


Its a belt with a chain that allows the weight to hang between your legs.




LOL, yeah getting on bachar's level is nearly impossible. Still that doesn't stop up from training hard and trying to get better. I do miss JB on these forums.


I think bachar's one rep max for weighted pullups was 150#'s...dayum!


The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 30, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
150# weighted pullup? That would be me lifting (a little more than) me. Amazing.
I did short steep hill repeats last night, which are hell on the lungs but not on the legs, strangely.
Upper body is trashed from two days in a row of high volume pullups, dips and heavy barbell thrusters so I will just run the office building stairs tonight.
Waiting for the weekend so I can hit the trail and get away from concrete and asphalt underfoot :)

Wildone, your photos are beautiful - what lovely scenery to bike through.
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 30, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
Always seemed strange to me how many climbers emphasize upper arm/lat strength when training away from the rock. Yet they generally ignore a whole wacky world of grip strength out there, in which people do the most ridiculous things like break brand-new pliers by squeezing them, tearing the Houston phone book into 3 pieces lengthwise--wrapped in duct tape, rip the corner of a loose deck of vinyl-coated playing cards. Finger board--all you need...

Hard crack machines seem to translate well. Heard they used to line them with old blue jeans near Laramie, that so Jaybro?

I think dips provide more value for actual climbing than full-range weighted pullups. Maybe partial reps with more weight would be more applicable, as in skinny high jumpers backsquatting 1000 lbs for 1/4s. Easier on your rotator cuffs and elbows.

nice photos.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 30, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
very jealous, jaybro!

and part of the fun of training is just, well, the fun of training.

if pullups float yr boat, there's worse ways to pass the time. i periodically try to at least do a quick muscle-up and lever on the rings just to make sure i still can. but i honestly miss doing rings and rope as a regular part of my workouts, even though the carryover to climbing was fairly limited.

aerobics-- the short walk i did yesterday almost killed me. just tried to do 40 ft of traverse in the gym and almost hucked a lung.

glad the warm weather is here, it'd be nice to get out from under the walking pneumonia or whatevertf i ended up with.

gonna be all short approaches in jt
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2011 - 07:27pm PT
Pullups are largely about pullups, but I like pullups.

And yeah I'm pretty sure Bob had a jean-lined crack machine.
And yeah KLK there are worse ways to spend a josh troop that having one with short approachs!

Rest day for me today, trip prep. Maybe a couple weighted pullups before the big bald head disappears behind the boulevard.
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 30, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
had bad pneumonia in 2001 in a Venezuelan jungle.
very good doc, was insistent that I use, hourly, one of those lung exercisers where you raise the balls as soon as he saw me.
When the nurse tested my lung capacity, she said "is that all you can do?"

If you climb at BIW, try the big anchor chain I provided them. It's 65# and progressively adds weight to you as you pull up.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2011 - 08:37pm PT
Wow! What a sickly obsessive idea!
i've seen that chain there, I think I just didn't get it.

Oh and, Spirometer?
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 30, 2011 - 09:12pm PT
yeah, that's it.

I didn't use the chain much, so there it is for all to drag upwards. Hits you in that upper range, but eases off as you lower, is the idea. Sort of the opposite of the partials I was speculating on above.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Mar 30, 2011 - 09:36pm PT
good day. end of the driveway today. felt solid but had to rest at the mailbox.
10x10 on the incentive spirometer and a solid hour of lap steel.
if I can keep up this pace, I might have to put some pants on ..
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Mar 31, 2011 - 01:03am PT
Nice going, Wade. Dunno your sitch, but hope all is going as it should.

Today, 4mi flat, along Ocean Beach.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 31, 2011 - 01:10am PT
ARC on the wall. 1x 30min, 1x 20min
rhyang

climber
SJC
Mar 31, 2011 - 01:24am PT
10 mile hike after work in the Santa Cruz mountains above Los Altos, 2400' elevation gain. Saw a baby rattlesnake, pretty cool.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Mar 31, 2011 - 04:48am PT
Yesterday, 70+ mile ride in the hills, torrentialrain and headwind, to get to a particular PC World that had a particular digital camera on sale for 35 quid so my girlfriend can give it away in Cameroon after she's done with her fieldwork. Miserable, miserable ride. My hands didn't work for almost an hour after getting home. Couldn't undo the velcro on my bike shoes or undo the fastex buckle on the chest strap of my back pack. Literally had to unbuckle it between the bones of my wrists.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:37am PT
Spent 8 hours on skis yesterday doing my part to leverage aerobic nordic skiing opportunities for many others. I was a certification examiner for the PSIA Instructors exam, 7 candidates going for certification hailing from Mammoth, Northstar, Mt. Shasta, Bear Valley, and Royal Gorge. So the quality of cross country instruction continues to improve, and hundreds of people will benefit aerobically! I was pretty tired from all the demos and all the focused observation. Resting up now for the Mammoth Marathon.
(Hi Ben!)
Peter
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:56am PT
Here's a good site for training for climbing.
http://climbstrong.wordpress.com/about/
okie

Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
Mar 31, 2011 - 09:31am PT
Geriatric-paced 5am run. The hour of the Tiger.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2011 - 09:38am PT
i'm getting ready for a geriatric run myself. Don't want to be too tired when I'm resting up for my nap...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2011 - 08:14pm PT
6 mile 5 finger trail run. The highlight was 2 Rattlesnakes on the trail in different spots, right here in Walnut Creek! I mean, Wolf City!
The low point was that something poped about mile four, in my right calf... This happened a week ago on a run of the same length that was paved. in between I squeezed in a five mile trail run in full on White Man Running Shoes (FOWMRS) with no problem. Going to dial back the 5 fingers for the next few...
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:17pm PT
3 mile run through the 'hood
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:21pm PT
2 Rattlesnakes on the trail in different spots

can the ticks be far behind?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:43pm PT
The ticks might be on your behind...rj
klk

Trad climber
cali
Mar 31, 2011 - 08:46pm PT
^^^^^^^

apparently so




heh
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 31, 2011 - 09:13pm PT
Yesterday, ~ 9 miles and ~ 2700' of breaking trail through the sludge and chowder, half of which I was loaded down with camera gear. Looking for bunny poo in the Carson Range.


These rabbits take in some pretty sweet scenery:





Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2011 - 09:31pm PT
How's that foot these days, that was you wasn't it?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 31, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
1hr 5m elliptical+bike @ steady 70-72% maxhr.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 1, 2011 - 12:07am PT
Busy week... 21 mile mtb ride, 3 mile run, 12 mi mtb ride (11.3 mph avg speed for the ride on rocky single track) then another 3 mile run with the mutt. Took today off... 'nut her long mtb ride coming up tomorrow.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Apr 1, 2011 - 12:34am PT
Added a few miles to the bank account today...

This is ~5 yrs...

rhyang

climber
SJC
Apr 1, 2011 - 12:50am PT
Rhyang, Rancho San Antonio? Great place to run and hike.

I agree, though I was a bit north of there -- headed up Black Mountain (2812') in Monte Bello OSP.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2011 - 10:54am PT
I've actually never acquired a tick in the Bay Area. Everywhere else though.....
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 1, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
Jaybro, how is your calf feeling today? I am easying into Vibram's slowly -I walk and work out with them and do short runs on grass. I am so paranoid about injury to tendons and calves. They do feel so comfortable though.

I have been working a lot this week so very little mileage accomplished but I will be hitting the trails this weekend :) I am doing my first duathlon in May and will be practising transitions from bike to running and vice versa. I will be the gumby on a non-tri bike, no clips, and non-coordinating Lycra and will enjoy every minute of it. :)
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Apr 1, 2011 - 05:39pm PT
I just did my second barefoot run of the year today up Negro Bill Canyon. A 4 1/2 mile round trip. I've been doing a lot of barefoot hiking with a 40 lbs pack. My feet are getting tough.


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Lisa, non-coordinating Lycra Rules! Calf still sore. Taking it easy, packing and other wise getting ready for a road trip tomorrow. Packed all shoes. May be mainly working approaches for aerobix for a while, though there arr, killer trail runs in the desert.

Hoping to combine the Wind, pullups, and abs for obscure goals of more interest, on this site, than in the world at large...
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 1, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
Six or seven repeats of about half a block, trying out shoes at A Runner's Mind, a new-ish locally-owned running store in Burlingame (1199 Howard, http://www.arunnersmindbeyondthefit.blogspot.com/);. Great store, great stock, low-key and helpful salespeople, none of that Road Runner Sports ickiness.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 1, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
Great 20.5 mile mountain bike ride this afternoon.

Only saw two hikers the entire ride, and they were way down at the far end of the trail.

It was only 95 degrees... where'd all the desert weenies go?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2011 - 01:06am PT
Nice! Hey Greg, the forecast has improved in that place we were talking about!
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 2, 2011 - 01:48am PT
Hey Jaybro, thanks for asking. It's arthritic as hell. On the upside, the talus is still viable, so I haven't had to have the thing fused (yet). I got most of my mobility back though, and if I use it a bunch it definitely gets tougher. On the flipside, a couple weeks on the couch, followed by a big day, hobbles me up pretty bad. Cobble beaches or standing around all day on concrete are just about the worst. I feel each storm coming too, so March was rugged. But really I feel pretty lucky that I can even have big days, or walk for that matter.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2011 - 09:42am PT
All things considered that seems pretty good! was that TR here or on the Fetish? Sounds like ti forces you to stay active, that's not all bad!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 2, 2011 - 11:25am PT
JB - not looking too great for me. Looks like you might have a couple good days early in the week. Here's the 10-day hot off the presses...

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2011 - 11:39am PT
Bomber!


Really, close to ideal... I fear heat (anything over 65) raining but warm here in SLC tonight.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 2, 2011 - 03:08pm PT
7mi over SF's 4 most towering peaks, without supplementary oxygen.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 2, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
Jaybro, have a blast on your road trip and mind that calf. Do you roll it with a foam roller or lacrosse ball? Hurts like a mother but releases the tightness so you are good to go the next day.
Today I biked 30 miles (in NYC, so inhaling fumes offset any cardio value I am sure) but also did 5 rounds for time of 400m sprints, 5 moderately heavy back squats. Nice leg burner workout!
I am jealous of desert heat. It is only 45F or so here still. I love that dry desert heat....
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 2, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
Did 2.1 hours of cardio with just a bit over 2000 calories burned on thursday and friday with 1.5 hours of bouldering in addition : )
Had a nice day snowboarding in Sierra today till it started raining..hopefully sugaloufff tm
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2011 - 12:29am PT
I've actually been doing exactly that, Lisa! Though it's not a lacrosse ball per see.... 10.5 hrs driving today, 4 more tomorrow, and then, hopefully some climbing. Maybe a trail run in Arches if it's still raining.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 3, 2011 - 01:09am PT
5k run today... man, I was having a high gravity, bad joints day. Left ankle was not a happy camper. Be better tomorrow...
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Apr 3, 2011 - 04:57am PT
Just leaving my house, gonna ride down to Dover (27 ish miles) then back to my house along the Viking coast route. All told it will be around 100 miles. And it's a beautiful day, bike is cleaned and lubed, ipod is charged up, and calexico's "Carried to Dust" is the first album in the line-up today. Only ten more days in England, gotta take advantage of this weather!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:25pm PT
Wildone, is there a camera in your gear list too? It sounds beautiful.

We have lovely sunny weather this weekend. I ran a trail 10K in the Bronx this morning (surprised?) and had a blast. We did run through some burntout woods at one point which made me LOL. Not just cars anymore....

I finished in 53:06 which is a good time for me. I was first in my age group and won a whole carrot cake. Amazingly it survived the bike ride home.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:39pm PT
Just got in, 97 miles by my addition. Bonked super hard about ten miles from the end, drank a coke from a seaside vendor, then a few miles later, popped into a pub for a pepsi. Just completely depleted my blood sugar, glucose, glycogen, etc. Made it home though. Treated this ride as a TT and pushed the pace pretty hard throughout. Took a bath with lavender oil, got a massage from my special lady friend with homemade balm of gilead from her cottonwoods in mt, drinking some local (like I can see the orchard out my window) kentish pear cider...feel pretty damn good. Got the lentil soup cooking right now. I'll be sleeping happily very soon.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 3, 2011 - 03:42pm PT
I loves me some carrot cake. That wouldn't have made onto the bike, much less all the way home.

Strength (hangboard) Fri, first session of the new phase/new cycle. I usually start with the prior phase's 3rd workout as a guideline. It's usually very close, you lose max strength and gain anaerobic endurance toward the peaking phase of the cycle, so retaining 20% of what you gained in the prior strength phase sounds depressing but is quite good over the long run (talking years). Felt good, could have possibly gone with the 4th workout from prior but better to start very slightly easier than ideal than to overdo it on first session.

1hr aerobic moving sheets of drywall yesterday, on the bike today as soon as I find my shorts. Nice cloudy and much cooler day in SoCal today, and nowhere near as windy as yesterday.

Who needs Crossfit when you've got Homefit? For time (had a day laborer on the clock): 30x repeats of carrying doubled sheets of 1/2"...squat, deadlift, bicep curl to tilt, farmerswalk, negative bicep curl to reverse tilt, reverse deadlift.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
Apr 3, 2011 - 04:24pm PT
I have tons of motivation and absolutely no discipline, so I'm incapable of doing anything aerobic on my own. Even had I the equipment, I'd never be able to do crossfit at home alone. But, unfortunately, I got talked into registering for the tough mudder in VT at the beginning of May.

So, despite the fact that I'm already a member of a $10/month gym that I go to like twice a month, I went and joined the fancy gym last week and I've been going to classes. That's the only way I get any work done: when I'm in a room with everyone else feeling like I'm totally being judged. [url="http://www.lesmills.com/Bodystep]Bodystep[/url] class has been really fun so far (especially because even if I wanted to half ass it, you can't really, or you'll fall off the step or something), but I went to a Bodypump class last Friday and it was hideous. I had no idea how much weight I should be putting on my bar so I figured first time out, better keep it light and easy and I just put on the same amount of weight as the saggy flabby 65 year old women in the class. Big mistake. By the end of class my triceps were so blown I couldn't even finish complete sets.

You'd think that ice climbing 40+ days this past season might have done something for me... but I guess not.

We'll see how it goes. Hand surgery on Thursday means no more bodypump class for a while for me, anyway!

Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 3, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
1hr on the bike. 7min Warmup->45min O2&Tempo ride w/ short hills @ 70%-82% MaxHR->8min cooldown.

Absolutely perfect weather for it. Enjoying my post-ride chocolate milk right now.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 3, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
29 miles on the road this morning... wind at 18 gusting to ??
I was having Kansas flashbacks. Still made it around in 1:28

Garmin gave me 2300 cals for the ride...
I figure the way things have been going, my weight will go up huge tomorrow!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 3, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
around the block and to the mailbox one crutch.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 3, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
Wildone, you stepped into a pub 'for a Pepsi'? I would have gone for a pint - calories and you float home unaware of any pain :) Great effort.

Homefit sounds like a tough workout! Lifting and carrying awkward stuff beats bicep curls in a gym any day.

Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 3, 2011 - 08:48pm PT
Mammoth Marathon today! 42k skate race. Interesting snow conditions spring corn with some cold powder blown onto the trail. Had a good race, my goal wa not to bonk as I have the last few times. Skied strong for the distance, finished 12th overall. Psyched for Owens Gorge tomorrow, before heading home.

Peter
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 3, 2011 - 09:50pm PT
Peter, congrats on finishing so well. I would love to do an XC ski race although my technique is poor and I would trash myself. How long does 42K take skating?
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 3, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
Lisa,
The winner did it in 2:01, very fast, he is a top US Team biathlete, 2nd place was a top Tahoe racer 7 minutes behind him, I was 22 minutes slower at 2:23. Nordic race times from day to day or race to race will vary greatly due to snow conditions.

Peter
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 4, 2011 - 01:05am PT
Congrats, Peter!

A little time in granny gear coming home from bouldering.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 4, 2011 - 09:56pm PT
9k "brisk" through the faculty ghetto; soon to head over to the CRUSHER show.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 4, 2011 - 10:13pm PT
Peter, good to know what fast times on skate skis means. I think I could build up to that, provided it was downhill all the way ;)

Aya, good luck with hand surgery. Sounds like a bad injury but at least you ice climbed all winter.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 5, 2011 - 10:49am PT
I've never picked up a tick while running.

Have they gotten worse in the ten years I've been gone from the Bay?


Worst tick episode Ive ever seen was on the east side of Diablo a few years ago on my favorite trail. Frickin Hitchcock scenario. Absolutely horrific, eons beyond anything I'd seen in years of living in tick country in other parts of the world.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 5, 2011 - 10:51am PT
Hoping to combine the Wind, pullups, and abs for obscure goals of more interest

Too obscure to mention? The love that dares not speak its name?

Let's see, there are at least two climbing scenarios I can think of for which aerobics, ab work, and weighted chins could possibly be functional training.

You're going on an expedition?

heh
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 5, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
5 k run
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 5, 2011 - 06:11pm PT
Had a nice 2hr 10min session of cardio yesterday, with 2623 calories burned. Than did 1.5 hours of bouldering.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 5, 2011 - 07:25pm PT
Finally got out on the mt. bike today. Good solid 45 min. of climbing and 15 min. of sweet downhill.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 5, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
Hangboard session yesterday. Today 1:10 aerobic consisting of 25min Antagonist/Abs circuit, 45min bike @ 70%-80% MaxHR.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2011 - 01:45pm PT
Canynlands jaunt sn....
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Apr 8, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
On a road trip to AZ so I got three consecutive days up Camelback in Scottsdale via the Cholla trail.
I love this as a cardio workout since you get a 10 minute warmup walk from parking to the trailhead and a 10 minute cool down on the way back.
Tuesday - 26:45 up - 22:12 down
Wednesday - 27:52 up - 19:45 down
Thursday - no running allowed today- 28:25 up 30:00 down.
Today - let the knees recover.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 8, 2011 - 01:59pm PT
Tue: 15min Antagonist & abs circuit->45min bike at 70%-80% maxHR
Wed: Rest
Thu: Hangboard
Today: antagonist & abs circuit->bike/elliptical/stairmaster (after work, we'll see which machines are funtioning, prefer the stairmaster but we only have one and it's fahq'd)
Pewf

climber
nederland
Apr 8, 2011 - 03:48pm PT
I'm super psyched, getting a good groove going with the "plus child" workouts (aerobic analog of weighted pullups?). She's keen on the bike rides and hikes as long as she gets to get out of the Chariot or backpack for a picnic and a bit of hiking on her own.

Trip to UT included

 Fisher Towers hike
 Road ride in Arches: part asphalt, part 4wd road
 Klondike bluffs ride: 4wd road, slickrock, single track
 Canyonlands ride: asphalt, gravel
 Canyonlands hikes: 5, 5, 12 miles

Back home now, despite shaky weather got in a trail ride down in Boulder between rainstorms. Going to ride over to some boulders this afternoon. Pulling the Chariot back through Nederland wind should compensate for the short mileage.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:48pm PT
Hand surgery yesterday means still quite a lot of pain today, esp whenthe hand is below heart level, so I guess I should take a few days off. Step class while all vicodin'ed up doesn't seem too bright anyhow.

I feel like a fat slacker though!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:51pm PT
PT, four blocks one crutch. fug that spirometer thing.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 8, 2011 - 04:54pm PT
Aya, just think of all the things you can do once your hand is 100% again. There are a number of movements you can do one-armed, or focussing only on lower body, but not while on Vicodin. Hope you get off that stuff quickly and can do modified workouts.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 9, 2011 - 09:31pm PT
9 or 10mi loop at Sweeney Ridge. Heal up you invalids, and way to go all.

blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 9, 2011 - 09:53pm PT
12 mile jog on dirt paths around my house.

Question for those of you who are knowledgeable runners/joggers:

I've had some foot pain for the past month or so that I'm pretty sure is plantar fasciitis. As with lots of these problems, it came on with increased mileage.

The pain is not that bad, so I am I being an idiot to continue jogging with some pain?
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 9, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
When I get a niggle like that (PF, ITB, achilles, etc.) that's not too bad, I take a day or two off, try a short, easy run and if it hurts, take more days off.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 9, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
Another Berthoud Pass ski lap out to Roberts Creek chutes.

Across the way, Current creek bench cornices, looks like one already dropped in the left of the photo.



Back side of School of Mines Peak, note crown in bottom right of photo :( not getting on that anytime soon.



Looking down upper Roberts drainage about 3,600’ down to the road.



Rocking out afterward in Empire.


S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 11, 2011 - 01:04am PT
Did a crossfit workout on Saturday and I am still sore.
Too bad it cost 200 bucks a month.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 11, 2011 - 01:06am PT
Just about to pull the trigger on a pair of these:


YEAH! They're fast just sittin' there!
Credit: SwipedFromTheInTraWebs



They might not make me any faster, but I'm sure gonna LAUGH A LOT!

:-)

YAY!

Anytime you can make working out a CRACK UP, I say "JUST FRIKKEN GO FOR IT!"

eKat


you'll feel like you've dropped acid whenever you put them on.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Apr 11, 2011 - 01:10am PT
nominal bouldering session this afternoon.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 11, 2011 - 05:54pm PT
I ran 4 miles to manor Market and back this morning. Felt pretty good considering I used to hate running.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 11, 2011 - 08:58pm PT
5 or 6mi with first speed work in years. 3 "peppy" repeats of .82mi.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 11, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
i did my taxes.

elevated my heart rate for quite some time.
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Apr 11, 2011 - 10:12pm PT
2 hr hike, better for my mind than my heart.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 11, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
Did a 9.5 mile tour around Mt. Washington on Saturday, including tagging the summit and skiing two ravines. Bluebird day and variable conditions, skiers and riders tomahawking down the headwall, peanut gallery cheering from Lunch Rocks - a wonderful day out :)

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 12, 2011 - 12:15am PT
4 blocks one crutch. pain meds halved.
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 12, 2011 - 05:40pm PT
6 lap swim
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 12, 2011 - 07:29pm PT
25 rollypolly miles on the mtb, feels good to be back on the bike after 7 months off.

Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 12, 2011 - 09:34pm PT
OMG my legs hurt!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 12, 2011 - 10:24pm PT
30min antagonists circuit: 12 sets total (tris, delts, abs)->45min bike: 10mi, 2200ft gain, HR 70-80% max, high cadence (mid 90s).
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Apr 12, 2011 - 10:35pm PT
19 mile mountain bike ride on Sunday. Throat was headed south, antibiotics yesterday, seems to be coming along. Should see Jaybro in the next few days roaming around the Creek. Taking the bike. Wanna ride the Slickrock.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 13, 2011 - 03:28pm PT
Wade, that sounds like great progress - increasing distance and reducing meds.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 13, 2011 - 03:30pm PT
I just took the rug out of my sportsmobile and put in the wash- does that count?
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Apr 13, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
That would depend on the distance between the sportsmobile and the washer.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2011 - 03:56pm PT
Nothing but approaches, last 10 days. 10-45, mins mostly uphill with 50+ lb pack





S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 13, 2011 - 05:11pm PT
3 mile skating. Really cutting down on meat, diary and all things refined.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 13, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
Day-hiked Mt. Shasta's Green Butte ridge in under 7 hours from Bunny Flat to Summit plateau on Saturday. Cold and FUN
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 13, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
Day-hiked Mt. Shasta's Green Butte ridge in under 7 hours from Bunny Flat to Summit plateau on Saturday. Cold and FUN

I wish we had mountains around here in Austin.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 13, 2011 - 10:54pm PT
4mi businesslike.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 13, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
326 mile drive to Boulder tomorrow replete with 100 ft. of round trip walking to get fish tacos in Carbondale.
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 14, 2011 - 12:32am PT
Weekly wednesday road ride
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2011 - 02:11am PT
20 minute power hike, and down.

Good thing I didn't take a bike!

Caz

Big Wall climber
Long Beach, CA.
Apr 14, 2011 - 02:42am PT
Started taking spin classes.Wow they kick my ass! I'm in a hurry to get ready for a century ride on the 1st....
S.Leeper

Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
Apr 15, 2011 - 05:46pm PT
3 mile run wiiiiiiiindy
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 16, 2011 - 07:46pm PT
30-mile road bike ride today, the second half in pouring rain and headwind, and I am almost positive it was all uphill too.
Still, it builds character and made the long hot shower all the more enjoyable, and this tequila extra enjoyable :)
Did a lot of barbell thrusters and box jumps today too so hamstrings will be feeling it tomorrow.

Wade Icey, how goes the crutching?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 16, 2011 - 07:49pm PT
Oh, and eKat, I meant to reply to your photo of AWESOME shoes. It is very cool you have the yellow Sony walkman too - they were the sh!t in the 80's.
How do the shoes feel - as great as they look?
Lisa
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 16, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
Bigger than average week, monday I summited Mt. Whitney after guiding a family up the Mountaineers route. We started on Saturday afternoon. Thursday I got to take a skate skiing clinic from the top three US Team skiers, very inspiring to see world cup skiers live! was the last Nordic race of the season, the 42k Goldrush. I felt a bit tired from Whitney, but had a decent race, last of the season, now very psyched to climb, and some backcountry skating, after some recovery.

Peter
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 16, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Taste the rainbow!!
I bet no music device made these days will last as long as that walkman has. Will an iPod still be functioning in 20+ years?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 16, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
12.5 mile trail jog. No problem for you cardio hogs but arse whupper for me.

At the risk of being a killjoy and generally "no fun"--a solid state mp3 player will almost certainly last far longer than an average cassette Walkman. No moving parts to wear out--nothing really to break. (MP3 players with hard drives are a different story.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 17, 2011 - 01:38am PT
I ran a 5k today for Hospice of Owens Valley. Good fun, I think I like this running thing.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2011 - 08:19pm PT
Needles trail canyonlands 4.9 miles? With Sierra salve on toes & fingers!

Slickrock & 5 fingers = god on a stick!!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 17, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Sounds like heaven, Jaybro!
I did 12 urban miles from the Bronx into Manhattan, to go help coach a running seminar. Running under a highway, past building supply yards, autobody shops, with a pack on my back, pretended I was Rocky. One garage had a yard full of dogs, mix of mutts and pitbulls, laying around bored. One pit was humping another - they both looked bored.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 18, 2011 - 01:29pm PT
Couloir and cornice season for the next six weeks!
Eight miles around Middle Boulder drainage topped off with a poached run down the west ridge of Eldora.

S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 18, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
4 mile run yesterday, swallowed alot of bugs.

arms and back p90x today
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 18, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
Antagonists circuit ~10 sets total and short AE threshold ride ~5mi. Too many errands on the agenda, had to cut the session short. Soon as the salmon comes out of the oven, I'm out the door for more errands. Blah.

I felt great on the Sat hangboard session. Maybe it was time of day, an a.m. workout vs my normal p.m., or good rest, or the small amount of caffeine in my decaf right before, but I was psyched...and hangboard workouts aren't really anything to be stoked on.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 20, 2011 - 01:25pm PT
Elcap, it is great when a session leaves you feeling so good even if it was 'only' a hangboard workout.
I only had time for a speed workout yesterday - 8x200M with 90-second rests between each sprint. That is a total of one mile and if I add up the run times I did a 5.5 minute mile :)
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Apr 20, 2011 - 08:57pm PT
4mi, down a hill, up some stairs.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2011 - 09:28pm PT
Another three mile 5 finger run in canyonlands.

I'm mostly off the net right now but uphill approachs with an atomsmasher loaded with big cams and almost daily short runs is the norm for me right now, little chance to report about it, though. Hope everybody is getting out and having as much adventure as I am!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 20, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
3 mile run and 6 lap swim yesterday. cardio x today
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 20, 2011 - 10:48pm PT
first off road hike today. not ready for the sticks yet. 1 mile with cane on dirt. ascending sets of burpees starting with typing about them and working up to bailing on them.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 21, 2011 - 04:03pm PT
9 laps in the ymca pool

lost 5 pounds
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 21, 2011 - 04:25pm PT
If I did 9 laps in a pool, I will have swallowed 5 pounds of water and drowned. Good going!

I had not checked out this thread earlier. I am struggling with leaving running on the back burner as I prepare for a trip up Denali. It's been very hard to stop doing something that has been part of my daily life for 30 years. The truth is that I have to get much stronger to pick up my pack without whining and help. I will whine off the mountain, but on the mountain, there will be no whining.

Running relieves stress. Running allows me to eat with wild abandon. Running gets me outside every day. Running leaves me fit enough to climb when the sun finally comes to the northwest. Running does not help me pick up that damn pack. Enter strength training and snow slogging.

I am deluding myself with the notion of effective cross training. I am running 4 - 5 days a week now. Long runs have been replaced by hard uphill hiking with lots of weight. Frustrated that the vertical gain is so small when I am carrying lots of weight, I am now doing some fast and light hikes or skinning on the other weekend day. So what is the aerobic equivalent of 3,000' of skinning? or a 5 mile posthole festival that gains 5,000'? Those days in the gym that have legs as a focus - I can barely wobble back to the office. After supper, I can trot around the block for a couple of miles.

Why am I panicked? I have a Hood to Coast Team for the end of August. Within a few weeks of coming back from Alaska, I will be racing 3 times in 18 hours. This should be very interesting.

I have learned how to balance rock climbing and running. This year will be about the synergy or non-synergy of running and mountaineering. Perhaps it wouldn't be such a stretch if the pack was smaller or I was bigger.

Your check-ins are providing me some much needed inspiration.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Apr 21, 2011 - 05:41pm PT
I did a V4 and a V5 boulder problem and was working another V5 when Ironworks closed last night. I capped it off with 10 pull-ups. That's about as much cardio as I can stand.

A week ago I was hiking in Pinnacles, doing the reservoir and high peaks loop and balconies trail from the east side in my flip-flops. That was kind of aerobic, especially during the brief moments when I was carrying the kids. Those little rugrats are heavy now!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 21, 2011 - 06:46pm PT
Seamstress, first - it must be so exciting to be going to Denali!!
I have chafed under heavy pack training for such trips too. It helps to still do some runs and fast hikes with a light pack to avoid losing touch with the faster pace altogether.
You will come back from the trip likely a little fatigued, but weighing less, so ease back into running (no more heavy packs, yeah!) and enjoy Hoood to Coast.
I came back from Denali and launched straight into trailrunning, started racing and did my first marathon in November of that year. The transition seemed to work out well. Being lighter helped :)
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 21, 2011 - 06:51pm PT
No time for a run yet today but I did do a deadlift workout that will serve my legs well. 5 sets of 5 reps, built up to 175# for the last set.

Waiting for the weekend, supposed to rain here but that makes the trails even softer :)
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Apr 22, 2011 - 01:15am PT
As the time I spend jogging increases, and my rate of speed improves, the more I want to do little else... except of course eat and recline more. The peaks in activity definitely bring on deeper lulls, and in motivation. Get to this point when I don't want to deal with the inner task master telling myself to go longer/farther yet, plus the necessary stretching I never do enough of so everything usually aches. Insert violins here. Time to let up a little just to keep at this with some consistency... Impressive how much you regulars do!

Glad you are having a great trip, Jay, from the sound of it!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 22, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
Just ran five miles off the couch.

This concludes my training. See you on the Big Stone next month.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 22, 2011 - 03:50pm PT
Seamstress, when are you going to Denali, guided/or not? and which route?

I am leaving on May 24th, may see you there...maybe..
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 22, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
Thanks for the encouragement.

I'm going up late - June 12th. Hope to summit on my birthday. I am taking a guided trip as I have been unable to pull together a solid team by myself. Time is ticking, and I must get up there before......This will be my first trip to Alaska, so the West Buttress will be fine - though I thought about biting off something more. Perhaps I will see you on your victorious descent. In all likelihood, you will be taking off as I land on the glacier. I'll be the only woman with a group of Aussie's with AAI. How about you?

Just did the whole body workout in the gym, followed by a 4 mile run. THe sun is shining for the first time in a long time. DId 8 in the pouring rain yesterday. SO my shoes were still a little squishy today.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 24, 2011 - 09:15pm PT
People must have got out over the weekend . . .
15 mile trail jog today for me--pretty arse whipped coming in.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 24, 2011 - 11:08pm PT
Lots of trees down in the foothills.

And my mom bought a new chain saw.

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 25, 2011 - 12:05am PT
6 km today. Felt pretty casual. What's wrong with me?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 25, 2011 - 07:04am PT
Seamstress, sounds like you will have a blast. I do hope you summit on your birthday, what better way to celebrate than being on top of the North American continent :)

Did about 15 miles on soggy trails on Saturday. It poured rain until the last few miles and It was tough to stay warm on the downhills and flats. Thankfully a change of clothes in ziplock bags stayed dry so we could be comfortable on the way home.
nature

climber
Koh Tao, Thailand
Apr 25, 2011 - 07:32am PT
I went bouldering today. 90 F with about 70 humidity.

I stepped on a scale the other day. I've lost 18 pounds since I got here. Some of it is muscle but a good chunk is fat. probably related to the piss water beer over here. that and the India diet where I spent far too much time not eating because I was sick to my stomach. I've not weighed 158 in a couple years.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2011 - 10:03am PT
That's what I weigh, though i am stumpier and more, 'relaxed fit'....
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Apr 25, 2011 - 07:47pm PT
skied Mt Audubon south face, 3,425' up and back to the car for a five hour burn.

nature

climber
Koh Tao, Thailand
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:19am PT
Hell yeah!

that's what I'm talking about!

I'll drink (piss) to that!

and you know what they say in India....

Piss in, Piss out.

or maybe it's...

Dal in, Dal out.








Edit: Dal in, Piss out?
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:34am PT
Gorgeous, sunny day Saturday. Last day of ski school, and an instructor clinic. Surprisingly, I had enough energy to run 3 miles after I got home.

Sunday - endless snow slog with heavy weight on back while pulling a sled. Yes, it was back to raining/snowing again. I'm sure the hardy few I encountered are still shaking their head about that weird sight. Gear is again sprawled all over the kitchen floor to dry.

Back to the gym on Monday. Upper body. Focus on ability to lift a heavy pack. Still got work to do. The five mile run along the waterfront was delightful and DRY. Managed to hit the only dry window of the day.

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 26, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
Lisa,

We refer to plastic bags as cascade gaiters....Good to see that I wasnn't the only woman out in the elements for hours!!

The weather doesn't have to cooperate. I have run in 110 degree heat, -45 degrees below zero, during the eye of a hurricane, and when tornados were shaving the tree tops 200 feet from my house. I will admit that I WOULD have stayed inside for the tornados if I knew the thunderstorm was going to get that ugly. It isn't always the most fun I ever had, but it keeps me in shape to have more fun than other old ladies.

I eat 365 days a year, so I exercise 365 days a year!!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:19pm PT
10 laps ymca pool
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
I'm going up late - June 12th. Hope to summit on my birthday. I am taking a guided trip as I have been unable to pull together a solid team by myself. Time is ticking, and I must get up there before......This will be my first trip to Alaska, so the West Buttress will be fine - though I thought about biting off something more. Perhaps I will see you on your victorious descent. In all likelihood, you will be taking off as I land on the glacier. I'll be the only woman with a group of Aussie's with AAI. How about you?

Seamstress, I will be leaving from SF May 24th..I been climbing/hiking/mountaineering for just over a year (but heavily!) and it will be our first trip to Alaska, so also West Buttress is a prime goal, but unguided. My friend and I are hoping to attempt the West Rib after. We gonna stash some screws, light tent, etc at 8K and hope to go as light and fast as possible. Hope to do whole rib in no more than 3 days (since we will be acclimated by than) after we camp in the valley of death (if we have enough energy for it all after West Butt, which I doubt, but hope we do). Enjoy your trip, maybe I will see you there at some point.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:40pm PT
Ran 4 miles today. Starting to feel easier.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:56pm PT
No real aerobic work for me, been moving house. But still got my hangboard workouts in. Back at it today after work.

Speaking of weight, just rounding into fighting shape right about now. Put on 5lb after starting the new job (I blame the cheap greasy almond cookies from the asian market), got about 3.5 of it back off. Right on schedule to peak end of May/early June.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:28pm PT
Ha ha, Seamstress, I will remember to use that term in future.
Shivering burns calories!

No shivering today though - 78F and sunny in Central Park. Ran with my club - we did an ascending ladder - 250m, 500m, 750m with brief rests between - three times. That is 4,500m (2.4 miles) running as fast as possible, with the rests to make it bearable.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 26, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
First run of the year, actually first run since the acl surgery 11 months ago. Ran the ridge around Foresta, beautiful spring green growth coming up around fire burned small trees and shrubs. Felt great. Beautiful day.

Peter
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 27, 2011 - 09:30pm PT
awesome peter.

serious injury, nice comeback.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 27, 2011 - 09:31pm PT
jaybro, are you doing the born to run deal in vibrams?
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 29, 2011 - 05:06pm PT
mile run
30 reps abs
30 arms
10 laps pool
bubble boy

Big Wall climber
topanga, CA
Apr 29, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
Rode bike to work, third time this week. almost 4 hours, there and back. Wooop!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Apr 29, 2011 - 05:49pm PT
awesome job ^^^
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2011 - 08:24pm PT
Klk, yes, though mostly climbing now.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 30, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
Did 3/4 of the Muddy Marathon in NJ today. I did not think I was up for doing the 4th loop within the two-hour time limit. Yes - two hours to do 6.55 miles through swamps, creeks and up and over 3 ridges. The mud was up to mid-thigh in places and only 3 miles were on actual blazed singletrack. It was a blast!!
jogill

climber
Colorado
Apr 30, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
It's to the horizontal ladder in the playground for this overweight 74 year-old, doing pull-ups, traverses, pathetic levers, etc. Quit climbing since it caused great pain in my shoulder arthritis, but bodyweight exercises are good and give a nice pumped feeling afterwards. Always thought I would abandon those and keep climbing at lower levels,but it turned out the opposite is the case. Go figure, Kerwin. All those small, inflamed muscle groups.
LithiumMetalman

Trad climber
cesspool central
Apr 30, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
finished 40 miler on a singlespeed, fun ride!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Apr 30, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
I love playground equipment too, Mr Gill! Glad to hear you are still pulling despite those shoulders.
Bodyweight exercises can be done anywhere at any time and give an excellent workout when done for time or for reps. Pullups, pushups and air squats - full body workout.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 30, 2011 - 09:58pm PT
16 mile jog, although the last 4 were pretty sad.
I'm jealous of those of you who actually like distance running--I've taken it up as I'm out of climbing for a few more months with injuries, but it's more torture than fun for me.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2011 - 11:57am PT

Slickrock at Dawn! (coming to a photo essay near you!) Regular white man running shoes. Too cold to work into those five finger dealies.. after a month of of mostly new hard wide cracks my fingers and toes are chapped bleeding stumps. only 2.5 miles, May go back with the light shoes after todays climbing.
Cold and windy today...
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 1, 2011 - 10:01pm PT
Sweet, Jaybro; I look forward to the TRs.

Today, 10mi with "just one hill" in the awesome Wunderlich Park; would have been 9, but for route-finding difficulties. Also some cycling to and from the gym, where me and my posse sent way dab projs.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 1, 2011 - 10:45pm PT

Put air in the tires.


Finally enough daylight at both ends of the day, and warmth to pedal my ass to work
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 2, 2011 - 01:51am PT
Finally a nice weekend. I climbed (snow slog) Defiance in the Gorge, setting tracks for the last 1,000' vertical. Light and fast. Was joined on top by quite a few Mazamas, so the track back was smooth. Lovely matched set of blisters.

Today I dragged my 100 pound load up to Chocolate Falls. I had not done a big carry the day after a climb before. It was a death march. The sun was shining. There better be a fitness payoff here.

Saturday was definitely aerobic. Sunday was brutal work, but probably not aerobic.
Brandon-

climber
Done With Tobacco
May 2, 2011 - 01:55am PT
Ran for 3/4 an hour this morning with the dogs off trail, got lost, looked at my legs and found a bakers dozen of ticks on them. Ran home faster.

Paddled a couple miles, flatw#ter to class III, thereafter.

Spring is here!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2011 - 08:29am PT
waddling down to the
breakfast bar .....
troutboy

Trad climber
Newark, DE
May 3, 2011 - 10:28am PT
28 miles of rocky, hilly singletrack in the old fart (45+ men) endurance division at the Granogue (DE) Mountain Bike Race this weekend (yes, I am well past 45, but that is the last age group cutoff :-( ).

I did not finish last. I even managed to beat a few of the under 45s.

I did not cough up a lung after (thank you albuterol).

I had fun.

Then got home to see a friend RAN a marathon in HALF the time it took me to bike only slightly further. Aarrghhh!

TS
nature

climber
Krabi, Thailand
May 3, 2011 - 10:31am PT
wow... that photo you posted there jay could apply to Thailand. Except... well... swap the F for a C and we are the same.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 3, 2011 - 01:16pm PT
Woke up at 8am on Saturday at Bunny Flat parking lot (Mt. Shasta). Was supposed to leave at 4am but had a shitty night. Got ready and head out solo for a day of cardio. On the summit in 4hours 50mins!!! My best time so far!



ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
May 4, 2011 - 02:36am PT
...7hrs 40mins..why alpine start if you can have views like this all day!?
I can't argue with that.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 4, 2011 - 09:15am PT
Vitaliy M, lovely TR!!! How great to have an aerobic workout with those sort of views.

All I did yesterday was 6x200M in Central Park with 90-second rests. Short tough workout.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2011 - 10:44am PT
Nice, Vitaly! All I did was carry a heavy pack up a hill, run a rope up to where I needed blues and only had reds, bail, then belay on a more worthy project....
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 4, 2011 - 09:54pm PT
Three hour, afternoon quickie.

Do you see the sleeping Indian?






Sonic

Trad climber
Central Coast, California
May 5, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
Rode about 30 miles this morning. Left at 6 in my bike jersey and shorts, gotta love warm spring mornings!!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 5, 2011 - 01:09pm PT
I did about 21.5 yesterday afternoon on the road bike. It was pushing on to 100 degrees when I was out. Too soon to be that hot!!!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 5, 2011 - 02:49pm PT
Despite my best efforts to destroy my legs over the weekend, 5 miles came easily on Monday and Tuesday. Also got in two gym workouts. Nice!!

Yesterday's weather was too good - 70 and sunny. Inspired, I signed up for the Happy Girls Run 1/2 marathon in Bend at the end of the month. So what if I haven't run more than 8 miles in a couple of months. Don't let reality cloud your judgment when the race advertisers "handsome pacesetters". I ran ten miles - and the legs turned to lead half way through. Now I have empirical evidence that mountaineering isn't a perfect cross training substitute for road running.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 5, 2011 - 03:35pm PT
Good on ya fer gettin' it done Seamstress!

A few years back, I signed up for a half marathon. Hadn't really done much running in quite a few years, although it would have been a cruise when I was in my 20's. Started training... stretching out my runs, etc. About a month before the event, I jacked a muscle in one calf in a big way. Over the next month before the event, my workouts consisted of mountain bike rides because I couldn't run on it. The week of the event, it was feeling sort of okay. The friend I signed up with said she was going to still do it, despite having some back problems, and would just walk if she had to. I decided to do it anyways and just run with her. She never did walk. I made the distance, although the last three miles were torture. Took me about five days to start walking normal again...
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 5, 2011 - 05:51pm PT
1 mile run, 10 lap swim, abs.

almost a month on a vegan diet, lost 15 lbs. systolic bp normal, diastolic almost normal.

no more acid reflux.

tons more energy
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 5, 2011 - 05:52pm PT
might actually CLIMB TOMORROW.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 5, 2011 - 05:55pm PT
finally read born to run last night.

pretty cheesy. but the account of the final race is fun.

i finaly broke down and bought a pr of virbam 5 finger ksos. they fit perfect, feel great, really nice for someone like me who tries to go barefoot as much as possible because store-bought shoes don't fit.

but i'm not sure i can wear them in public. growing up in the rural mid-south, my gender socialization was pretty strict.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqlOAx0ID5E
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2011 - 06:14pm PT
We'll always know you're a man... I liked the last part best, too.
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
May 5, 2011 - 07:49pm PT
Nice trip to Phoenix. Sunday, May 1 - Camelback Mountain. 25:38 up the Cholla trail, easy down the Echo side, backup Echo in 25:10, easy down to the car. Tuesday, 14 mile hike in the Superstitions to Dripping Spring from the Peralta trail head. Maybe I can shed a pound or two one of these days. I have to try to stay in reasonable shape for when brassnuts returns to Vegas.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 5, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
so i did my local normal trail loop (normal when I haven't had pneumonia or whatever) in the KSOs. mostly walking & stretches of survival shuffle. i'm used to doing it in my heavy approach shoes, so the lightness was weird.

probably be sore tomorrow.

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 5, 2011 - 10:55pm PT
Nice trip to Phoenix. Sunday, May 1 - Camelback Mountain. 25:38 up the Cholla trail, easy down the Echo side, backup Echo in 25:10, easy down to the car. Tuesday, 14 mile hike in the Superstitions to Dripping Spring from the Peralta trail head. Maybe I can shed a pound or two one of these days. I have to try to stay in reasonable shape for when brassnuts returns to Vegas.


Dhuuuude!
You should call or write when you're in town...I'd give you the tour!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 6, 2011 - 03:56pm PT
A friend (who just happens to be getting into doing tris) sent me this link.

http://charliebroadway.blogspot.com/2011/01/triathlon-is-stupid-sport.html
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 6, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
Got 8 miles in running through Washington Park and the Arboretum yesterday. The Azelas are blooming, and the rhodies are close.

Did 5.5 miles down on the waterfront today. Somehow managed to run between showers.

Not looking forward to the weekend's planned exertions with the forecast of rain and snow on the mountains.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 6, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
I swear that snow is warmer. It shakes right off. That 35 - 45 degree rain just saturates and chills. My house is a 2,000+ square foot drying room for all my wet gear!!!

Think I'll wander into the hot tub tonight and rewarm. I'll be thinking about that when the rain is soaking me again tomorrow.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 6, 2011 - 08:04pm PT
Seamstress gets post #420, and that leads to a question.

Do any of you puff before you run? I've got a friend, a lady and a marathoner, who claims that getting stoned before a marathon helps, as it allows for greater focus and compartamentalization of pain.

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 6, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
Sully, her PR is right around yours, I'd have to ask her for the specific number.

Four marathons a year, plus leading trad deep into the .12's gives her some credibility.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 7, 2011 - 12:32am PT

I can't say that I ever tried racing stoned. The more I raced, the less drinking I did pre-race. I've done 35 marathons with a PR of 3:10 at Boston while working an executive job and being a mom of 3. I used to race 40+ times a year and have boxes of 3rd place trophies - second class. Ability to focus was always there without any artificial assistance.

I'm no doctor, but I would be really careful about putting anything in my body then going at 85% max for a few hours.

Marathon isn't painful. Carrying 100 pounds for a few hours = painful, whining.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 7, 2011 - 12:35am PT
Tough Mudder in the AM. I just hope I finish!
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
May 7, 2011 - 10:49am PT
Ed and I got out yesterday to the park. About 2,500' of elevation gain.


Started at the road seen below.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 7, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
I did it! I finished tough mudder today! Whoa man was it COLD in the water!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 7, 2011 - 07:51pm PT
Nice Aya!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 7, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
Those blue skies were MIA today. I got in my 5 miles with the 100 pounds. It was 1/2 hour faster than last weekend, but still not fast enough to brag out loud. This time I attempted a ski descent with the pack and sled. Surprisingly, I am still alive and was not eaten by a tree well.

The weather will be crappy again tomorrow. But I hope I am inspired to climb St. Helens in my dress along with the other "cuties" that I saw setting up camp.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
May 8, 2011 - 12:44am PT
Absolute wimpy bike ride today. What will happen in elevation. Must crack on. Ugh.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 10, 2011 - 04:49pm PT


+



= 8 mile tour up in the James Peak wilderness.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2011 - 01:13am PT
Excellent day skinning up St. Helens on Sunday. The tradition lives on!The weather forecast scared away the crowds - maybe 50 this year instead of the 350 last year. We had sun, no wind - and intermittant snow squalls.

After surviving two big days on the weekend, the legs surprised me and had no trouble with 6 miles flat miles near the river Monday and 5 miles crammed into lunch today. Did I detect a little zip?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 11, 2011 - 02:09pm PT
Crushed from a 20-minute AMRAP (as many rounds as possible in 20 minutes):
5 chest to bar pullups
10 wall balls (14# medicine ball thrown to 10 foot hight target while rising from squat position)
15 kettlebell swings (35#)

7 rounds plus 1 measly pullup.
Hamstrings are tight from the wall balls and forearms are tight from the kettlebells.

Great nonstop workout, collapsed on the floor sweating and panting after it.

Now to rest as I have two races this weekend. Must look at calendar before registering for races in future.

Ski season is essentially finished in the NE so I love seeing folks' touring photos - keep them coming!
Seamstress, you will do so well on Denali. Your training is conditioning you so well.
salad

climber
Escondido
May 11, 2011 - 02:16pm PT
back in the saddle starting this morning. i havent done jack since a half marathon in feb. managed an easy 2 miler this morning, walking 18 holes this afternoon on an exec course.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 11, 2011 - 05:20pm PT
10 laps swim.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 11, 2011 - 05:29pm PT
pool laps, 20 mile living room bike ride, going for a hike, sans cane.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2011 - 05:57pm PT
There is something about saying it out loud that increases commitment. I appreciate the bits of encouragement, especially since my honey would rather keep me "fluffy" and rest my way into shape.

Second day in the gym this week with the focus on legs today. Then I wobbled out and trotted a mere three miles. There appears to be a limit on how much I can squeeze into lunch before too many people notice. I hope to jump on the exercise bike when I get home late tonight, followed by more futile attempts to reach for my toes.

My knickers are in a twist with plans for the upcoming weekend. I want a different venue, but that takes more time behind the wheel. I've come up with a plan to volunteer my husband for training and candidate testing for the rescue team this weekend. Then I might be able to zip over to Rainier for a different snow sufferfest.

The best of the ski mountaineering season is here and now. Lisa, you should try it sometime.....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2011 - 05:59pm PT
WI - kudos on the sans cane. I assume there is a story on that.
Lorenzo_InA_Benzo

Mountain climber
Yolo
May 11, 2011 - 06:49pm PT
today was fun:
running in hills, 100 minutes in Zone 4, not aeroBic BUT HORRIBLE!
then, 200 turkish getups with 45 bar.


^ive never understood why crossfit peopl 'love' to writh about after the workouts...doesn't this tend to happen when you lose in an MMA match or fist fight, or taking it to the worst level, just got your ass smoked (not smoked out, cuz then we be staraight BLUNTED and being on the flor is normal :) lol)? just never got that about it, u don't see professional athletes doin this, is it just learned behavior? i understand collapsing after a 60hr push in the mountains but after a 2, 10, or 30minute workout? jus wonderin aloud!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 11, 2011 - 06:56pm PT
Keep it up Wade! I was on the cane for 8 weeks last year and thought I would never be whole again. Time is on your side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzcWwmwChVE&feature=related
rhyang

climber
SJC
May 11, 2011 - 11:09pm PT
My usual 10 mile / 2400' gain after-work hike on Monday evening.

Got out on my mountain bike this evening, rode 18 miles / 1000' gain, mix of pavement and fire roads.

Went to the climbing gym on Tuesday night, more of the same tomorrow night.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 11, 2011 - 11:30pm PT

I gotta say, while I had tons of fun at tough mudder, any of the peaks I've done in the winter in the Dacks (eg North Face of Gothics, even the slides on Giant) were physically way more strenuous. The course had about 7000 feet of elevation gain over the 10 miles but with no pack full of ice gear on my back the hills seemed really easy. Growing the balls to jump into 35 degree water multiple times was a different story. Anyways, I feel like a fat pig because I took the last three days off from working out - not because I've been sore but because I've been lazy and using it as an excuse. Poooop.

I'm off to BODY STEP tomorrow. Man, how I love that class!!!!!!!!
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 11, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
8 hour days building a deck in Mammoth.....
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
May 12, 2011 - 12:40am PT
Been running 2x a week, anywhere from 4 to 11 miles, including at least once/week hard interval training. Yowza!

Improved my 5k time from 28:00 to 24:00 on my local course, still lots of room for improvement but been good so far after only running 4 months!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 12, 2011 - 05:53pm PT
Good job GDavis!

kenpo p90x for me...so good!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 12, 2011 - 06:08pm PT
Fri: Power day in the climbing gym. Campus board. Boulder problem pyramid to warmup (~8 problems) then 5 sets campus: mid rungs ladder, smallest rungs ladder, smallest rungs skip-2 touches w/5 reps per side, 2 rounds of smallest rungs skip-1 ladders. 3 sets gravity boot inverted situps after.

Sat: Rest. Catch up on sleep I missed being out of town for work.

Sun: Several miles day-hiking in local nature preserve.

Mon: Power day in the climbing gym. Bouldering warmup pyramid (~8 problems increasing difficulty) then all-out attempts, flashed 4 new problems, sent a hard new thing in a few tries, almost sent an equally hard thing I'd tried a couple times in a prior session. Having put in 5 solid efforts on limit-level problems, did a quick warm-down and went home.

Tues: Rest.

Yesterday: 8 set circuit of shoulders/chest/tris ->5km tempo/sprint on the bike, then a mile home on the cruiser bike as my warmdown.

Today: Starts the PE phase of the climbing specific training, 2 weeks of power is complete. Probably 4x4s in the gym, maybe routes. We'll see in about an hour. Then gravity boot situps

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 12, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
The hammies were not overly enthused about running today. However we did accomplish 8 miles on a section of the Wildwood Trail. The rhodies are blooming, and some of the mountains were showing their faces - if you know precisely what you are looking at.

So nice to be in shorts!! and a t-shirt!! with no rain gear on today!!

I miss those NE trail races. Those frequent trips to the Whites provided the opportunity to start climbing.
Aya K

Trad climber
New York
May 12, 2011 - 08:10pm PT
I went to step class today and almost threw up (which is not an unusual occurrence, laugh all you want, that stuff is HARD) but it was so hard to motivate now that the (somewhat anticlimactic) race is over. Poop.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 13, 2011 - 12:52am PT
5.5 or so over "the Dish" at Stanford, which is now a manicured asphalt trail. I remember when it was dirt and you'd trip over cows and bikes and bikes that had run into cows. Felt crappy and slow, but the GPS said I set records for the 100m dash 88 times in a row, so I got that going for me.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 13, 2011 - 05:44pm PT
3 mile run. bp is normal for the first time in years!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 13, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
An hour of fighting those rubber bands in the gym, which should become a comedy sketch. Topped that off with a 5 mile run and a cup of soup. Thinking about a coffee run now.

Excellent news on the BP front!
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 13, 2011 - 05:49pm PT
RSA is great--especially the Black Mountain Trail. I prefer Wunderlich to Huddart just because it's less crowded and less picnicky.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 13, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
Excellent news on the BP front!

Thanks Seamtress
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 13, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
Crossfit 2-3 days a week, then climbing on the weekends. The workouts change every day, some are more strength oriented (low rep, heavy olympic lifts), some are more anaerobic, some purely aerobic. The last one I did was a fun combination; heavy, high intensity, with some body weight movements mixed in.

Man I wish I could afford crossfit.
I did 1 of the free sessions and I liked the camaraderie of it.
Tork

climber
Yosemite
May 14, 2011 - 11:03am PT
Cait, you did great...fun day.
Jeff
Tork

climber
Yosemite
May 14, 2011 - 11:58am PT
Now that is an aerobic woorkout Cait. Lets do it!
Robb

Social climber
The other "Magic City on the Plains"
May 14, 2011 - 12:45pm PT
20 miles of sustained sprints on the Trek yesterday-REALLY feeling it in the shoulders!
Gearhead

Trad climber
Novato Ca
May 14, 2011 - 01:13pm PT
25 mile Mountain bike ride followed by sub 15 min 2 mile run total run distance was 4 miles in about 35+ min. Then 2 hour gym session ala gym jones work out from the web site. I'm sore today! Going out for a short slow recovery ride this morning.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 14, 2011 - 03:02pm PT
six miles on trail yesterday. Slipped twice in the last mile landing hard on the new hip. Might have to rethink the solo hiking as It took quite awhile to make it back to upright each time.

Today, Fear and Loathing in Vegas and the stationary bike...
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 16, 2011 - 07:32am PT
Ouch, Wade, do be careful!
I ran the Ragnar Relay New York from Fri to Sat. Team of 12 does 197 miles from Bethel, NY in the Catskills down to Westchester Co. Everyone does 3 legs so I did about 20 miles total. It is the camaraderie, runner support and lack of sleep that made it a great experience. I got about 3 hours' sleep aggregate over the 27 hours it took us to finish.
Yesterday I slept a lot then bouldered at the gym. Discovered a pulley injury, foo! Only in the climbing world is a sore finger treated with appropriate care and sympathy, right? Or am I a wuss? ;)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 11:08am PT
It is the camaraderie, runner support and lack of sleep that made it a great experience

Hoh man! We gotta get you into offwidth! You'll be unstoppable!!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 16, 2011 - 11:31am PT
Yesterday PE intervals in the climbing gym. 10min ARC & small bouldering pyramid warmup, workout of 4 intervals, ~40 moves ea, 1:1.5 work to rest time. Insanely pumped. Nice to be able to do this kind of workout with relatively few people in the gym.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 16, 2011 - 11:54am PT
LOL Jaybro! I did not realize the potential application until you pointed it out.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 16, 2011 - 12:13pm PT
Four hour tour up in RMNP.


Enjoying the ten minutes of sunshine we had this weekend before the fog moved in and we had to bail.




Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 16, 2011 - 01:11pm PT
The weekend started off promising. Did 1/2 day coaching on running systems for rescue rigging. Then dashed out to drag the big load around for a few hours. It was a bit easier this weekend, and I got back to the car just as the rain moved in. Foolishly, I congratlated myself for staying dry and staying on plan.

7:00 PM the calls start rolling in. Party of 5 overdue on St. Helens. Party of 2 overdue on St. Helens. Family of 7 stranded in the Souixon. Our small team managed to get to all of them with only one snowmobile as a casualty. I didn't get any aerobic exercise in, but sleep deprivation and fighting cold sapped energy. After I got home 1 PM Sunday and revived in the hot tub, I set out for a long run instead of a major hike. I felt OK, but the time was horribly slow for no apparent reason. I decided to listen to my body, returned home with only 3 miles logged.

ALl night I wondered if I am lazy or smart? It is the first time in a long time that I didn't work out as long and hard as intended. I hate being lazy.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 16, 2011 - 01:23pm PT
^^^^^^^^
but ain't it great to be smart?
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 16, 2011 - 10:10pm PT
+1 what Wade said. You did the right thing by listening to your body. Rest is valuable.

Today I ran 5 miles at a comfortable pace, then did a heavy deadlift and push press workout to finish off my hamstrings.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 17, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
It is a wonderful day, today. My new hypothesis is that I need to eat more, thanks to the changes in activity. I couldn't help eating anything that didn't run away from me and was hungry all the time. I was trying to avoid gaining weight while the miles running were cutback, and replaced with weight work, load carries, and long snow slogs. Fearfully, I jumped on the scale to get my punishment/inspiration to stop snacking. Somehow I lost 8 pounds in the last 5 weeks. Astounding!! You can't run on empty.

Joyfully, the calories consumed will be increased for the duration of the training. I ran 5 miles and did an hour of weight training focusing on arms yesterday. Today was a hilly 8 miles up through Washington Park. It may take a few days to figure out if eating more will help sustain the planned training. Did not feel like a zombie today.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 17, 2011 - 07:32pm PT
Got my butt kicked on a 5.7 today and had a ground fall from 10'.

Last week I exercised 6 out of 7 days.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 17, 2011 - 11:24pm PT
Seamstress, you must fuel the furnace! Besides, you will lose weight on the trip. Even I dropped a good 10 pounds or so. We were a team of three and would cook two dehydrated entrees for every meal. Every entree had two servings, so even though three of us ate dinner for four we all lost weight. So be sure to go in with fat reserves - they will keep you warm too :)

Today I worked on heavy thrusters, then ran intervals of 200m and 400m for a total of one mile. When I add my run times and exclude the resting times I ran a sub 6-minute mile. The only way I ever will LOL!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2011 - 07:35pm PT
Mtn biking, of all things! The boneyard, eagle Colorado. Three? miles out and the same back. Don't know the elevation gain. Never quite got rained on. Faitl technical foa 173yr old man who hadn't done it in a decade! Borrowed a very cool light hi tech bike, a felt!

Totally kick ass!! I remember why people do this. Now it's coffee or a nap! Maybe both!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 18, 2011 - 07:48pm PT
Leg day at the gym, followed by a 5 mile run. The sun was shining, it was warm, and I actually enjoyed it - that is the running part!! The weighted lunges are still not my favorite.

Perhaps we need to recalibrate the fuel intake just a hair more. Eat more, but not too much more. It is nice to have more energy. Balance was better too. That might come in handy.

Best chances for a sub 6 minute mile - run downhill!
jogill

climber
Colorado
May 18, 2011 - 08:37pm PT
. . . being fairly fit and climbing well can be two different things.

Absolutely true. The strain on small muscles in my arthritic shoulders keeps me away from the rock, but I am gaining bodyweight strength with pull-ups, etc., and that feels good. You do what you can. The important thing is to keep doing something.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 18, 2011 - 08:41pm PT
The important thing is to keep doing something

amen to that!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 19, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
2 hours of powder puff shadow boxing and my ass still looks big....i'm exhausted
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
May 19, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
Yesterday 30 min elliptical and 40 min walk/run with dog in Red Rocks.

Then the dreaded "deck of cards" workout with Maura. Shuffle the deck and take turns pulling cards.

Hearts = pullups (jack = 11, queen = 12, king = 13, ace = 15)
Diamonds = card value x 2 for a special ab set
Sometimes we make Diamonds = pushups x 2
Clubs = card value x 4 touches on a slightly overhanging rock wall
Spades = card value x seconds hanging on a hang board repeat x 4

For small numbers on some sets, I have a 10 and a 20lb weight vest.

It takes over an hour. I got a disproportionate number of pullups and abs while Maura got overloaded on hangs and rock wall hits.

When done, your forearms, abs, and back are pretty roasted.

Not aerobic, but fun workout that some may find valuable.

S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 19, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
3.25 mile run in the rain, refreshing!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
May 19, 2011 - 11:33pm PT
Two hour mountain bike ride. Maybe the last of the year as it's about to go nuclear oven here in the desert. Road season is upon us!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 23, 2011 - 02:43pm PT
45 minute run (slow) keeping my heart rate between 145-150 max. This was my first outside run since finishing chemo. I have been going to the gym and working out on treadmill and stationary for aerobic but living in California I don't consider indoor aerobic workout my real workout (unless it's indoor soccer). My license plate is "SRW RUNS" and running has always been one of my great loves. This felt so good to do it outside. Especially with the wind whistling through my hair, err, wait, I don't really have hair yet...ok, blowing across my scalp. Susan
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 23, 2011 - 07:48pm PT
Most excellant, Susan. My mom ran through her chemo - many days, not all days. Those were the good days. It is a way of hanging onto normal. I still remember getting her the best card later, - "Congratulations, your hare is back". Hope to hear that from you later on. THe first step is always the hardest.

Drove for 3 hours to get to Rainier on Saturday. That should be considered a workout. Climbed quickly - until 9,100'. Dragged ass for 500' then felt great. Broke above the clouds at 9,000'. The forecast - 22 degrees with showers and 15 mph winds. Reality - a beach party at Muir with no wind at all, pass the sunblock.

Dragged the load on St. Helens for 3 hours on Sunday in variable, but not miserable weather, then rewarded myself with a fine italian dinner.

Arms today at the gym. Only got in 2 miles - and hope to get in a few more at home tonight.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 23, 2011 - 08:05pm PT
not really aerobic, except for the hike in, I climbed outside for 4 hours and realized how much I am out of climbing shape.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 23, 2011 - 08:06pm PT
4 hrs hard yesterday, hiking and scrambling. my lungs still hurt, a month after i thought the pneumonia was over.

pita

maybe i'll just boulder all summer
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 23, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
OK Sully, EXACTLY where is the low rent section of where you live...except maybe on the other side of the freeway? I think maybe the area you live is "high" and "mega". LOL Susan
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
May 23, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
post 500, awesome workouts
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2011 - 10:21am PT
Delicate arch stroll. Brisk walking pace. We forgot our free solo gear but it was just what we needed on a troublesome day, in a very strange trip....

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 24, 2011 - 04:35pm PT
bumped up to a 50 min run this a.m. keeping heart rate no higher than 150. Weight work tonight at the gym. Boat work tomorrow. The fun never ends. Gym climbing a little bit, lingering neuropathy in my toes from chemo makes my shoes REALLY uncomfortable so I prefer to suffer through that agony by climbing outside where it is worth it. Weather is stablizing so more outside climbing. Susan
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 25, 2011 - 08:16am PT
Nice, Susan. I hope the neuropathy will fade over time?
I did a nice speed session with my club last night - try it!

Sprint 100m, jog 300m, sprint 200m, jog 200m, sprint 300m, jog 100m, sprint all 400m. Rest 2 minutes and repeat. The last 400m is tough as it is done with the least rest.
Also did a load of ring rows and push ups so upper body is aching pleasantly today.

Planning on carrying sandbags up flights of stairs at lunch, with various squats/burpees/ pushups/etc. at each landing, for time. Some friends dreamed this up and invited a bunch to join in.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 25, 2011 - 05:11pm PT
Ran 8 hilly miles yesterday.

Trainer earned his money today - I did not want to work out!! An hour for my legs, followed by a 4 miles run. Ate half a chicken and now downing a coffee and cookie. Some days the struggle is more mental than physical. I'll have to apologize to said trainer at next session. I am glad that I did work out. I hope some sleep will adjust today's attitude!!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 26, 2011 - 11:55pm PT
Nice going on the hills, Seamstress!
I did a hilly 5K trail race this evening, in the Bronx of all places. It is a summer series and is a nice lowkey race. They give giant freshly-baked carrot cake muffins from the bakery across the street as prizes so there is incentive to run hard :) And believe me 5K is HARD! I really prefer marathon distance and longer where I am rarely out of breath with a coppery taste in the back of my throat.
I think the winner was a 15-year old who finished under 18 minutes......
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 27, 2011 - 12:31am PT
5Ks are a different kind of hurt. I always liked the long distances better, too. The East has a ton of great trail races - that's how I got into climbing, entertainment after a trail race.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 27, 2011 - 01:47am PT
A 5K, like any race less than an hour if you're trained, is anaerobic. You manage oxygen debt. Training for that is different than for marathons. When I was racing, I always ran 5Ks much better than marathons. I was probably "really" a miler, but there aren't many mile races for middle-aged duffers.

And, you can actually win a 5K in NYC in over 17min these days? That is shocking.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
May 27, 2011 - 07:38am PT
Murcy, since the prize is a muffin and not thousands of dollars I guess the 13-minute runners do not feel the need to show up ;) Their loss - it is a fun cross country course with short steep hills.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2011 - 10:50am PT
Muffins, mmmmm!
Auto-X Fil

Mountain climber
May 27, 2011 - 01:03pm PT
Just found a sweet 35 mile loop, which is actually flat-ish (rare around here). My goal was 2 hours, but I missed it by a couple minutes.

I'm riding a SS 'cross bike set up for a steep commute, so I was undergeared on the flat at 42:17. New wheels will be in next week with a 15T fixe option that should make the rolling/flat stuff more fun!

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 27, 2011 - 01:12pm PT
pool laps and no pain meds. hike later
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
May 28, 2011 - 08:55pm PT
20 mile long run (jog really).
omg omg omg omg, could barely limp the .3 miles from the course to my house, then could barely move for a few hours. I have a premonition of what moving as a 90-year-old person may be like.
I'm really impressed by real distance runners--(I'm a poser hoping to do a first-time marathon in under 4:00, but no big deal either way).
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2011 - 10:53am PT
I'm with blah. I've done a lot of hack, long distance running and I think that not being very goodat it took athe pressure off. I can just enjoy the adventure. Hats off to the real runners!

Another Delicate arch jaunt yesterday....
pc

climber
May 29, 2011 - 12:58pm PT
Taking the kids up Tiger mtn this afternoon. 7 and 9 year olds are fast but my 3 year old is only good for about 1 mile and 1000' up. That leaves ~1 mile with 1000' more with him on my back.

Rainier in 2 weeks. Gonna try skinning up for the first time. Yeehoo!

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 29, 2011 - 02:54pm PT
One hour 34 minutes, combo run, very short walks to keep my heart rate in 140-145 range. It is feeling wonderful! Susan
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 29, 2011 - 02:59pm PT
You guys and gals are hardcore inspiring....I'm off the pain meds and after todays hike...clearing the climbing wall so I can actually use it.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 29, 2011 - 11:23pm PT
The plan - Happy Girl's Half Marathon in Bend preceded by climbing at Smith.

Reality - Snowed at Smith, so we didn't climb. Took advantage of coupon to buy emergency tights at REI for the 1/2 marathon. It was not 60 and sunny as promised. Battled headwinds and lack of training to finish with a time that I refuse to say out loud. Still collected hardware and had a gorgeous run. Must do this one again, particularly with a little bit of preparation.

Now scaling back, but not sitting on the coach.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jun 8, 2011 - 10:08pm PT

Been taking a few laps around the block during the week, also plan to start hitting up the sauna and steam room again to help open up those dry Alveolar ducts hurting from winter air.

Anyone else notice the benefits of time spent in a steamroom and sauna on overall performance?


Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 9, 2011 - 01:27pm PT
It is time to see if all this work will pay off. I am off to Alaska tomorrow.

It was very hard, but I skipped an invitation to climb Mt. Hood in what looked to be perfect weather and just loaned out gear. All weekend, I was a bit whiney about that. I would never forgive myself if I blistered, twisted an ankle, or otherwise damaged myself a few days before going to Denali. My buddies informed me that the weather forecasters were wrong, the the winds were wicked on top. I must be a bad friend, because that made me feel better.

To take my mind off of this year's snow obsession, we hit the rock for real for the first time over the weekend. Delightfully the leads of old familiar climbs 5.7 - 5.9 went well. Perhaps I should not have jumped on the 10c at the end of the day. My fingers informed me that either 1) weight work is no substitute for climbing or 2) I am getting arthritis. Love the souvenir pains that followed.

June is when the rescue team I belong to is very busy with missions and training. Had a great time testing new recruits. Their faces are priceless when I "casually" take the basket from them at the end of the test. Yes, Rescue Randy ain't getting any lighter, but the last four months of weight training have turned back the clock. We had a fun mission retrieving two 13 year olds from the canyon below the bungee jump. They weren't badly hurt. The raise was over 200', and the boys have stopped bitching about why do we need to learn how to pass a knot.

Lifted lightly three times this week. Ran only 3 - 6 miles a day this week. Started taking gingko. My energy level is rising faster than the flooding on the local rivers. My weight is rising, too. That mountain better take 10 pounds off of me!

I'll check in when I get back. I only have 7 weeks then to get into shape to captain a Hood to Coast team. That is a blast, the "Mother of All Relay Races". I'm very worried about the much lower running totals this year. Rock climbing and rescue dominates the late summer and early fall agenda. Being light will be right....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 9, 2011 - 03:15pm PT
That would be a blast. The van decorating, the team colors, the tolerance of less than civilized conditions, ability to field dress blisters - it would work. I am currently assuring some of my team mates that headlamps work, it isn't dangerous to run in the dark in the country, .... You all probably have all the required gear.

Add to that my husband is always my team massage therapist......
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 9, 2011 - 03:37pm PT
Started my spring 'get-back-in-shape' thing. One hour slow run followed by a half hour swim. The road back is definitely never peaches and cream for the first month...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
Vedauwoo: ed's crack solo, downclimb to box cnyn. Lucille meditation at midpoint.
Definitely raised the Chi.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jun 9, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
Jaybro,

Stop the cryptic stuff; please post a thread about what you've been doing!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
All in time. Don't know where to begin. 10 weeks so far, amazing opportunity, mostly Moab / Indian creek, 16 gigs of photos. Right now it's 40 degrees and windy in vedauwoo (8k') 3G for phone, no wifi for computer. This'll have to wait till I'm under a roof ( a structure, not a feature) sometime. It'll happen though...
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jun 10, 2011 - 07:24am PT
Seamstress I will be thinking of you on your Alaska adventure. You will have such a great time and being in such great shape will make it such a pleasant experience. Looking forward to the photos and report!

I ran another 5K race last night during a spectacular thunderstorm. The lightning was very bright. I got my carrot cake muffin for placing second in age group. I am age 38 so at the upper end of the 30-39 group. I will actually be relieved to turn 40 where hopefully I can place better LOL.

Then I ran 8 miles home. The city actually smelt fresh in the rain and scents from trees and flowers in residential areas were magnified. Considering Manhattan usually smells of urine during the hot summer months it was a relief :)
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jun 10, 2011 - 07:53am PT
Sounds cold Jay, you should head down to Denver tonight, David Lindley is playing a show at the Soiled Dove, we're gonna have a party and serve cat food sandwiches.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2011 - 09:30am PT
Yow quarter of a man himself!
Well though it's 39 in the campground this morning, I think I'll stick with the earthborn spirit. The sun is out and it's time for a trail run after I finish yesterday's mocha.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2011 - 11:28am PT
Vedauwoo
Turtle rock trail with extras, including Reynolds hill and valley massive.
Approximately 6 miles (@ over 8,000' wheeze!)
Photos to follow, when I'm in a download situation.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jun 10, 2011 - 11:30pm PT
Nice, Jaybro! Looking forward to those photos.
Today's Crossfit wokrout mixed heavy deadlifts, air squats, and push presses for time. Hamstrings are toast. So I am drinking a toast to them on the couch right now.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jun 10, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
good luck with the projs, jaybro.

tetons in july?

blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jun 11, 2011 - 11:34am PT
8 mile taper jog. If all goes according to plan, next week I join the ranks of D-bags with the "26.2" bumper stickers.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2011 - 01:34pm PT
Run blah run!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2011 - 04:15pm PT
Kerwin yeah, may be , let's talk!0
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jun 18, 2011 - 05:03pm PT
26.2! I trained enough so that just finishing wasn't too bad, but to come in around my (humble) goal time took hard effort at the end.

After I finished I thought never again, this isn't fun. And then I had hard time even walking to get on bus back to accommodations. But now, a couple hours later, I'm already starting to think about how I can improve next time . . . . We're strange animals.

I see the posts on this thread are getting sparse--hope you're all getting your workouts in, posting or not.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jun 18, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
Big congrats, blahblah! You must be walking on air right now, or hobbling on air anyway :) which race did you do?
Welcome to the world of marathon addiction, once you have done one you just HAVE to do more!
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jun 18, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
Awesome. Marathons are great things to have done. And while there certainly are addicts, by far most marathoners run just one.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 18, 2011 - 10:15pm PT
Just got done a 2.5 hr skate rollerski on pretty slow chip seal.

I need a beer!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jun 18, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
hey there all, say, i never get extra time to jump on in here and see what's going on, :)



say, so here i am, .... wow, EKAT... what a trail-mix-walk-day you had...

thanks for the great share, and the neat picture...

hey to all... :)
oh, and the lisa is here, too.... *keep seeing your marathon adventures at the facebook...

keep up the good work...

me--i'm just running around pulling weeds here, and chasing cats, and a dog, as it chases birds... ;)


god bless... have fun all, on your adventures... will backtrack later and take a few reads...
all for now...
:)
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:13am PT
Thanks all for the congrats and good to see others getting out too.
I did Grandma's (Duluth, MN). To my newbie view--Nice course, friendly people, and it all went smoothly. I understand they've had some really hot weather in recent years, but that wasn't the case yesterday--cool and cloudy.

I can see sticking with marathoning or at least distance running. Not sure if others have this experience, but for me it was relatively easy to climb while still living a college-style lifestyle (lots of beer drinking, staying up late, eating crappy food) with my fortysomething body. Distance running forced me to clean my act at least a bit, and it feels good.

OK enough rambling from me, but if anyone else has never tried marathoning and has wondered about it, I'd say get any of the popular training programs and give it a try: it will be an incredible experience. I did it as a self-directed activity, but it would maybe be more fun/easier to do with friend(s) or at least a running club, which I think I'll check out for my next go.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jun 19, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Well you inspired me to run an easy 4mi. One more sidewalk face-plant than I ideally prefer, but otherwise pleasant.



Edit for eKat: I tripped on some kind of sidewalk irregularity, rolled and came away with a skinned knee and a heckuva story to tell the grandkids. [insert emoticon for embarrassment]
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Jun 21, 2011 - 11:27pm PT
eight mile run on father's daY
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jun 29, 2011 - 03:52pm PT
Hey hasn't anyone been exercising at all? ;)
I have been out of the loop for a while due to final preparation for an endurance event I did at the weekend.

It was an epic aerobic workout, the Death Race in Vermont. It took me 43 hours to complete as much of the course as I could before the race ended at 3pm on Sunday afternoon.

I was going nonstop since Friday at 6pm. We did a lot of hauling rocks, chopping piles of wood, hiking for miles in rivers, up streams and over mountains (often while carrying a big log).

155 started and 35 finished so I so happy I could hang in to the finish, especially since it rained all weekend making for chilly, muddy conditions.

Legs are sore so I will be taking things easy on the aerobic front for a few more days.
Then time to start training for next year!!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jun 29, 2011 - 04:06pm PT
It was an epic aerobic workout, the Death Race in Vermont

ahhh....ahhh...who would want to post after an epic workout like that! Wowsa....I'm impressed.

Ok...me...I have been regularly running my Santa Cruz/Capitola loop of 5.1 miles with an 89-steps staircase from lower Capitola to upper Capitola mid way in the run...I try not to even look at my heart rate monitor at the top of those stairs

My alternate semi-regular run (2-3 times a week) is a 7.2 mile loop with the steps.

Confession: to keep my heart rate no higher than 150 bpm I do have some short intervals of walking. I think soon I will have retrained my heart to stay under 150 for sustained aerobic activity.

Susan
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jun 29, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
Stairs are a great workout. Why do you want to keep HR under 150? I have never worked with a HR monitor so would love to hear how it works for you.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jun 29, 2011 - 07:52pm PT
steps across from El Toro B
Yes, the ones that go up from parking lot to Depot Hill. Boat is still on the hard so I don't think we'll be going to PG for at least another week...and by then hopefully it will be to the Valley/Meadows...will keep you posted...hopefully if we go to the Valley/Meadows you can join us.

Why do you want to keep HR under 150?
There is a whole physiological and sports body of knowledge about the balance of aerobic vs. anaerobic training. Keeping your heart rate down (in the big picture) allows greater endurance. In the long run it builds a stronger heart and training capacity. Optimum bpm varies according to age, fitness etc. Keeping my heart rate at 150 or below I can go very long distances without fatigue or yucky muscle aches at the end of a training (running, biking, swimming). Google it and you'll find lots of info. You are probably way younger than I am so your heart rate may naturally stay at optimal levels even during endurance. It's fun for me tracking the info, just like a cadence monitor on a bike. I use a polar heart rate monitor which will also upload data into my computer.

Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 29, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
Wow, the Lisa, I'm jealous of your pain!

I've been out of the aerobics scene since a foot injury after a 20' groundfall on a freesolo about two weeks ago. Same day as Scuffy's inury. Was hobbling, now walking. My next aerobicness will be to backpack into Reese mtn with some tacoheads Friday. Did get back into 5.12 ow after the first week, though.
jahil

Social climber
Does this rock make my ass look fat?
Jun 29, 2011 - 09:45pm PT
Lunchtime at work: Run 5 miles, followed by 1000 crunches, 30 burpees, 50 push ups 30 pull ups. Mocha at 2pm, asleep at desk at 2.30pm.

steve
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 2, 2011 - 05:42pm PT
Thanks for explaining, Susan. Sounds like a very useful tool for you. I tend to go by my breathing to gauge my effort level, a low-tech method but it works.

Jaybro, ouch! I hope you are healing well.

I took it easy this week, recovering from the weekend race, but am back on the training wagon for the next races. Did a load of house and yard work today, saving my run for after as a treat. Heading out for a nice neighborhood run now that the day has cooled down a little.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 2, 2011 - 08:23pm PT
Just got back from Alaska. Should we gently ease back into the running routine? Hell, no! Ran my town's 10K road race and finished 2nd for the ladies. Standing up straight takes a few minutes of loosening up, and people have a tendency to stare.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 3, 2011 - 12:02pm PT
I know, I need to write it this weekend or it will never get done at all. 43 hours' worth of reporting, it will be long, not as long as a Denali trip though, looking forward to hearing how it went for Seamstress.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Jul 3, 2011 - 01:39pm PT
Just ran 5 miles at 7.6 mph and 2.5 percent grade on the treadmill, then went over to the Lemond stationary bike and rode his training program at level 12. For an oilfield in the arctic, it sure has a nice gym. I rode so hard my vision was blurred for a few minutes after my workout. Which is awesome. Gotta get ready for the Umpqua and Mackenzie River trails in a week!

P.S. Greg Lemond is a toolbox.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Jul 7, 2011 - 11:36pm PT
some scary obesity stats:

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/07/07/obesity_rankings_trust_for_america_s_health_ranks_mississippi_mo.html

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 15, 2011 - 05:02pm PT
Tuesday, the twelfth was my first run since maiming (breaking? Dislocating?) my foot a month ago; 20' grounder to a slab, as John used to say, "always use a rope!"
Yay!
2 miles, very slowly, but I feel like I'm on the way back! First run as a 55 yr old.

Interesting recovery scenario. For several days I iced, elevated and stayed off. then Daphne reminded me to wrap it in an ace bandage. That was huge! the swelling went down 90% in an hour! Thanks Daph!

The next milestone was inversion therapy. Vedauwoo wide roof problems made more things pop back into place.. I had to climb in two different. sized climbing shoes for a while.
it valways hurt when I put my shoes on, but attempting routes like worm drive and right torpedo tube distracted me enough that I forgot about it.

Then, hiking, actually backpacking into Reese mtn increased the swell factor. I followed some sport climbs there, up to .11b with a Ganda on my left foot. Except for the the toe profile in thin cracks,Ganda.s really do work better than most climbing shoes in many situations.

Wednesday night chasbro and I went climbing at the Campbell county rec center devil's Tower-esque climbing wall. For the first time, I got a TC pro on my left foot! My larger size (40) but it didn't hurt that much and felt better as the night progressed. Yesterday we went back at lunch and I braved my 38.5 mythos. Same deal, felt better over the session, though cranking thin finger cracks has a way to go.

So now, a month after the accident I'm almost back to normal, sort of weak normal range, yahoo!

Being temporarily under a roof again I've jump restarted my pull up regimen as well.starting with 5 the other day and adding five more every day. Today will be 35. I can only do 25-30 in a set so I've graduated to more, smaller sets to get to the total....

Hope everyone else is managing to train in this summer heat.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jul 15, 2011 - 06:55pm PT
First run as a 55 yr old.


Are you shi**ing me? I didn't even have you in this decade...actually the one prior. Go figure...I'm going to go take up climbing full time. Susan
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jul 15, 2011 - 06:59pm PT
lungs feeling better and im hiking again, but i start really noticing it at 10k.

glad yr foot's feeling better jaybro. always sucks to get an injury early in yr season.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2011 - 08:30pm PT
Firat 5-Finger run on recovered foot!
Pretty modest don't know the distance, but 45 minutes in very Hilly terrain in the Blackhills, near Hullet, Wyo.

My running team, Bonnie and Clyde a pair of black labs that collectively out weigh me, kept me on a pretty good pace, Except when they stopped to smell dead things, roll in the wet places, pee, sniff each others butts... actually the pace was just right!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 16, 2011 - 11:23pm PT
I filed my trip report. I don't fail often, but there is no hiding it.

Running is a lot simpler. One foot goes in front of the other. You have good miles, and bad patches. The old and the slow get to run with the young. An objective watch keeps score. It feeds the need to achieve. All are welcome at this party. Strong legs, endurance, consistency are my "ass"ets.

I had a lovely family sneeze and cough all over me on the flight home from Anchorage. So I battled disappointment and the first cold in three years when I returned. As I mentioned, I scored second in a 10K my second day back from Alaska, my second day of running in three weeks. The director didn't see me in the results, so my little piece of hardware went to someone else who was delighted. I did not have the mental energy or heart to correct that oversight. I was on a roll.

Fr a week, the daily runs were just going through the motions. I felt asleep and lifeless. As the cold cleared and I started looking more ahead than behind, the energy began to stir again. I did 10 miles last Sunday (I actually wanted to!!) and suffered just for the last five minutes. This week, I was back to my normal schedule, and the times were on target. The weekend weather isn't cooperating for the backcountry adventure I had planned, but I found myself staring at the website for the races nearby. I will race in the shorter event tomorrow - doing 1/2 marathon would be ridiculous despite how tempting that rolling hill course is in wine country.

Back in the saddle again, I am looking forward to Hood to Coast at the end of August. Let's see how that horse will try to buck me off!

55, I'm just behind you, and turned 54 last month. Guess what - we are still athletes. I felt awful for a short time, but the athlete refused to curl up in bed or flop on the sofa. It is summer - time to crank up the miles and smiles.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
Seamstress, we have our ups and downs, but we're still young, and it's all ahead of us. Keep us posted, I'm going for a run/climb tomorrow, Rest up and go big!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 18, 2011 - 09:56am PT
Seamstress I must read your report. Congrats on getting back safe and running hard.

My Death Race report is here - 43 hours' worth so no one is obliged to read every last word:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13YBa6VK2jGNnMmvVsVCMQRhLq-a1khG_zI_S4kpbY-Y/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1

Yesterday I got in 18-20 tough hilly miles in Bear Mountain SP. The short but steep climbs add up to impressive elevation when you do enough of them.

Jaybro, how was your run/climb?
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 18, 2011 - 12:13pm PT
I did the 5 mile race on Sunday at the festival. The legs got a little lead in them on the uphill section. A large man wearing old fashioned grey sweats was churning away, and we kept passing each other. Normally, I would find this very disheartening. This time, I found it inspiring, to watch someone finding the athlete within them. Yes, he was at least 30 years younger than me. We had enjoyed the chat after the race while waiting to cash in our beer and food coupon.

Took my age group and did pretty well overall given the low mileage spring. It was a money race, so the Portland throngs showed up. Before I give the ego centric brag about winning money, it was less than the entry fee. My bruised ego needed a little boost.

Post race, I was enjoying my specialty pastas procured at the festival. The pager went off, so the aerobic workout continued. I reported for the broken leg on the mountain, but was diverted first to the cave rescue. It was a small contingent for that mission, so a lot of work for those there. From an aerobic perspective, the stairs were run eight times, the length of the cave once, and the rescue rig to the cave entrance was done four times. Thankfully the patient was a medium sized child and easy to move. We went up the mountain to work on the climber, and then were diverted to a new mission for a mountain biker falling off the trail, down an embankment, into a river. That wrapped up quickly (at least the extraction part did)and was a low mileage event. Then back to the mountain as the pack out had yet to commence up there. We grabbed lots of lights to pack up thinking that the carry would go on well past dark. Trail conditions were rugged for a carry since the trail is still covered in deep snow and enormous tree wells made it impossible to keep hands on the basket reliably. We met the team 2 miles up the trail. With our fresh arms and legs, the carry moved quickly. A fresher and younger crew met us a bit later. We wrapped up this carry just as the sun set. Thus the additional lights served only as weight resistance in the workout.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 18, 2011 - 03:41pm PT
Lisa, what a novel event. Love anything that taxes brain and brawm simultaneously - like climbing. Thanks for sharing the experience.
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Jul 18, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
Run 3 miles followed by 3 sets:

2 x pullups + 60 pounds
15 push ups
2 minutes plank
200 crunches
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jul 19, 2011 - 12:09am PT
At 74 I thought I was doing pretty well on pull-ups, etc. until I watched this!

88 Year old man doing pullups

Ament has some footage of me doing what he calls my "bouncy pullups" in his latest film
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 19, 2011 - 10:27pm PT
John, presumably your pull ups are better than his. Although to be pulling anything at all at age 88 is admirable. My instructors are very strict on form and full range of motion, or reps do not count.

Today we worked on cleans, snatches and ring rows, followed by 8x 250m sprints with two minutes of rest between each sprint. I needed every second - it is 90F and humid here.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
I don't know this counts, but ti did get my heart rate up and I was wheezing...
Brisk solo of the Weissner route on Devil's tower. Left the car at about 5, hiked ten or so minutes on the paved trail and slogged up the dirt trail, then semi technical scramble to avoid party of five in the "bowling alley" Didn't get going on the route until almost 6, then two and a half piches to the meadow and up the 4th class to the summit by 7:04. After writing in the register, taking pictures and a brief snooze. I was down to the meadows and half way down the first Bon Homme rappel by 7:24, where, due to a traffic jam I sat for another two hours.

So, unclear of quantifiable aerobic benefit, but as the route is only maybe 5.8 wyde, the way I went, I thing it was more of an aerobic pump than anything else.

I was able to wear Gandas for the whole thing and avoid shoe change, hauling. I think I could have done it in three hours or less (2?)with out the delays I encountered.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 20, 2011 - 12:19am PT
J, pictures plz.

That sounds like a good workout, nice work :)
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jul 20, 2011 - 01:13am PT
Running over 50 is not the big deal...

... but finding the magic during those runs is!
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jul 20, 2011 - 10:29pm PT
My instructors are very strict on form and full range of motion, or reps do not count

Lisa, all that concern about full range and form generally fades after 70 with arthritis, etc. taking its toll. There are still a few oldsters who follow those dictates, but for most of us just keeping fit and doing our "pull-ups" and "push-ups", etc. is satisfying!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 20, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
First pavement run on ever improving foot. 3 miles 31 minutes only mild throbbing at the end.

And I am gonna do a TR of the tower climb.

Also I think Dr Gill makes a good point important to all of whether we're 77 or 17, though form is essential in climbing and other things, the difference between exercising, in any form and not is a bigger deal.

"Any project you think you might be able to do, start today!"
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 20, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
John I hope I can keep full ROM and form until I am anywhere near 70 then - I already have tight hips at 38.

Someone I admire in addition to you is my 72-year old Crossfit coach - he does not look a day over 60, and is a great athlete as well as an inspiring instructor.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 21, 2011 - 01:41am PT
Got 8 miles in yesterday with some speed mixed in.

5 miles today, and I wanted to push the pace in the middle miles.

Think the deep funk is over.

Yes, a wide crack qualifies as an aerobic work-out provided you have the appropriate amount of panic and hyperventilating throughout. Thus the name of the climb I first led on my wedding day - Black Lung. There was plenty of heavy breathing on that lead. Now if you styled that climb and never broke a sweat, no aerobic points.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 21, 2011 - 03:53pm PT
Glad to hear the mileage is going well, Seamstress!

I have a 5K race this evening - going to be so hot and humid (preparing the ground for my excuse for a poor time ;) )
scuffy b

climber
dissected alluvial deposits, late Pleistocene
Jul 21, 2011 - 05:26pm PT
I'm back to being able to go for fast walks, for my aerobic workout.
8 miles or so along the cliff top path, watching the ocean, or in the gym
on the treadmill watching climbers.
I go for an hour there, fast enough to get drenched, and finishing up with
a respiration rate of 60 or so.
So, full breaths possible but my ribs are too tender to think about a bike
ride.
Real climbing may be possible soon. So far, only offwidth doesn't hurt.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
So Scuff, sounds like you'll be shipshape for Vedauwoo on the 5th? Grug needs backup!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 21, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
Good to see that folks don't let a setback as an excuse to permanently vegetate.

I was so inspired that I overcame inertia and ran 8 miles.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 21, 2011 - 07:29pm PT
Swam 65 laps in a 50m salt water pool, just over two miles.

Hey Scuffy, well done!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 21, 2011 - 11:34pm PT
Holy crap, Goatboy, that is impressive. I cannot swim two laps without needing a rest break. Does the salt water improve buoyancy or efficiency? I need all the help I can get ;)

I ran the 5K cross country this evening in a personal worst of 25:15. I cannot breathe well in this 98F heat but it was an exercise in getting comfortable with being uncomfortable. I still got a muffin for placing 3rd in age group. I biked 9 miles each way to the race and in NYC traffic that keeps the heart rate well elevated.

Doing a 12-hour race on Saturday so I expect to be pretty fried from that - hot n humid forcast for Jerzeee.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 22, 2011 - 09:07am PT
salt water is just an alternative to chlorine pools, check out www.swimsmooth.com, that's where I pick up some breathing techniques that helped improve the mileage.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 24, 2011 - 12:00pm PT
I got my aerobic workout on yesterday at a 12-hour race in NJ in 90-something degree temps. It started at 06:00 when it was overcast and relatively cool. The course consisted of a 5K loop up and down ski resort hills. It was brutally steep and when the sun came out it was brutally exposed. I took some breaks between loops as I just wanted to get at least a marathon distance done and get a good hill workout.
Ended up doing 9 loops, 27.9 miles, with a total elevation gain of 9,900'
Finisher award is a pint glass with the race name, which I promptly filled with a cold Stone IPA :)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2011 - 12:40pm PT
Nice, the Lisa!

I'm plodding along, foot improving. Yesterday was another trail run with dogs and bro. Extensively photographed though. I'll get those up when I am in download position in about a week or so.
Today I'm headed down to Vedauwoo for some real fun!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jul 24, 2011 - 03:23pm PT
hey there all, say.... nice to see all this...

you all are doing so well... :)


i miss my two walks a day, as, over here at the newer place there is no place to walk, that is safe and nice: just traffic, and i don't want that for my doggie, :(

but we drive over to the other place where we used to live, when we have gas: it is only about a five minute drive, but i really don't want taking patty ann through all that awful traffic, so it is worth it--so now:

until we can walk more, i think it is time for more dancing:
i FINALLY do have a room in the house to dance in, and that is good full range, and stretch time movement and it also makes you happy too...

:)


would rather have more of the geatoutdoors, but at LEAST we DO get THAT in the neat backyard... lot of over hang trees...

patty can run, too, *though due to all the mud, i am trying to get some grass in, so her aerobic workout, is low now, :(


but--we're getting back to "there" our happy-aerobic time, after having a
lull of about 8 MONTHS!!!!! :o


NEAT THREAD, keep up the good work!
:)




say, the lisa, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee take care from the heat, though...
you got me worried a tad...
*i know, i know, you've been at this long enough to know that, :)


:)
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jul 24, 2011 - 03:24pm PT
hey there say,jaybro, just saw your post...

wow, yes, some pics would be nice, :)
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jul 24, 2011 - 05:56pm PT
This is my first post on this thread since my 77 minutes of "Deadaerobics" hippie dancing...
Today I thought I'd go on a bike ride.
Ended up doing 39 miles.
I'm cooked. Remember, it's summer in Tucson.
Damn, it feels good though.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Jul 29, 2011 - 12:31am PT
Hey jefe how goes the bike riding? Surely that dry heat is still comfortable? Although I always find biking so exposed compared to trail running, here in the NE anyway.

I was all indoors today though - the Crossfit workout was a mix of pull ups and doubleunders (jumprope) then I bench pressed, then went to the climbing gym. My strained A2 pulley is feeling much better so I can start to climb harder, gradually.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Aug 2, 2011 - 11:34pm PT
Ran an 18-mile trail race in the Catskillls on Sunday, in hot sunny conditions. The race has a ridonkulous amount of climb - 10,000' or so - so it took me 5:23 hours to finish.

Tonight was a speed workout with my club so am trashed. Climbing gym tomorrow evening!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2011 - 12:39am PT
Ran thew Lyttle Creek -Black hills run again yesterday, a current fave. unfortunatley my running compainions, Bonny and Clyde had to go home a day early :(

Here though is the promised photo array of the same from last week.
"Let's go!"
Chasbro and Bonny warming up
Devil's Tower and the Missouri Buttes, below us in the background...
and back 'home'



another dog run again in the morning!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2011 - 10:48am PT
3 mile pavement run. The highlight occured when an errand bunny decided to funk with the dogs. Since we were in town, chaser had the dogs leashed, tied to his waist. 160 lbs of Bonny & Clyde bolting after brer rabbit and dragging chasbro with them made my morning.

Foot is healed to the point that I can run about every other day, and will start increasing
Mileage, finally!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 3, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
Love those trail races in the Northeast. Even with all that heat, I'm missing them. Great job, Lisa.

I'm still getting out every day. The mileage is closer to normal (Mon. - Fri.), but finding the time for long runs has been difficult.

My husband hasn't seen his brother in 15 years. He and his wife pulled up in an RV on Thursday. So this past weekend was devoted to eating and socializing. I managed to sneak out at the crack of dawn (my least favortie time to run) for a quick 5 miles. The gang was roused for a spectacular 6 mile hike on Silver Star in SW WA. It was a five mountain day - Rainier, Adams, Jefferson, Hood and Adams were visible. The wildflowers were spectacular. I can tell that this was an exceptional amount of activity for them. They will be nearby for 9 weeks, and the "boys" will be getting together a lot. There will be more early morning runs and a lot less climbing than I hoped. It's family, andI have not needed to ever accommodate his family before. So suck it up, enjoy it, and let's see if we can infect them with a love of the outdoors....
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2011 - 06:56pm PT
Back to an almost regular running schedule.
Tuesday I ran the turtle rock trail in Vedauwoo. About four miles the way I do it.
Friday I (five-finger) ran a variation 6 miles of the headquarters trail at Lincoln summit (highest point on I-80) on Mike F's recommendation. I'd skiied it before when they set skate ski tacks up there for the UW ski team. Great terrain, in the trees, highly recommended, if you're ever in the area.

Saturday I again ran Turtle rock and shaved 6 minutes off my tuesday time. also in five fingers. Then I hit the Vedauwoo invert offwidth circuit.

Monday I ran the Lyttle Creek, black hills run, maybe three miles. Then crosstrained with xtal face climb bouldering in the the South Dakota needles.

Today I ran lyttle creek again.

I gotta say the five fingers feel really good on my still sore foot, though I don't know if they would on pavement runs...

Somewhere in all this I started reading 'Chi Running'- also highly recommended.
wildone

climber
Troy, MT
Aug 16, 2011 - 09:56pm PT
Jaybro, have you read, Why We Run, A Natural History by Bernd Heinrich. I guarantee you will love every page. Right up your alley.

As for me, I'm running 3-5 miles a day on the treadmill, then getting on the stationary bike and doing Lemond's "bust your gut" exercise, and I'm keeping it at or above 300 watts for 30 minutes. That...is hard. I'm training for an unsupported through ride of the Arizona Trail as soon as I get off this oilfield. From Mexico to Utah, 800 miles including hiking your bike across the big ditch, and it will take me 9 days. PSYCHED!
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Aug 19, 2011 - 10:53am PT
I don't post regularly since most of my workouts are 30 minutes on an elliptical and an occasional 3 mile run. But for my 62nd birthday on August 10th, I decided to do the 18 mile, Mt Charleston loop for a test of my cardio fitness and as part of a birthday challenge. This is Mt Charleston, NV, the highest point in southern NV. I started up the south trail, over the top, down the north trail, short road section to the Echo trail, back to my car.
Times to key landmarks:
Switchbacks 1:33
Top 2:46
Saddle 4:20
Finish 5:01.06
4,416 calories

Then to the gym for top roping repeats to get my age in routes (allow 5 laps per route but one 5.11 I did 7 laps) 22 5.11s + 40 5.10s = 62 routes in 4hrs 10 min.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2011 - 11:15am PT
Nice! and, Happy Birthday!
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Aug 19, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
Mathes Crest with Ed yesterday.
Perfect weather and did not see anyone else while on the route.

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 19, 2011 - 03:59pm PT
Rick - I'm jealous, still want to do that route someday.

The aerobic training has been at a frenzied pace leading up to Hood to Coast. For the last couple of weeks, I doubled to prepare for the relay. I am feeling more confident that I will finish my legs even with the much reduced running schedule up to July 1. With the "easy" legs I have, I sholdn't have a problem.

Yesterday's 8 mile run was fabulous. I wondered if my watch battery was dying - the splits were nicer than I had the right to expect. I'm getting ready to jaunt 4 flat miles right now, and then head up Mt. Adams in the wee hours. It probably isn't wise to do Adams a week before the relay where we each run three legs in a day. But it isn't every day that someone asks to go snow slogging, and I love snow slogging, too.

One of my men dropped off the team, and I'm frantically replacing him. I do have a very mellow set of legs for myself, nice for the old lady with insufficient training. I may have to trade with the substitute. The drop-out had the second most demanding set of legs for the relay. Much of the challenge in the relay is with the logistics and sleep deprivation. In that way, it reminds me of mountaineering.

Time to run in the sun!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Aug 19, 2011 - 04:15pm PT
I hiked Mt. Charleston once and loved it! Nice to read about it here, and great going for 62!

Good to hear everyone else is charging along - good luck with the relay, Seamstress.

Since whenever I last posted here: I did the Spartan Beast race at Killington, VT. It is organized by the same group that holds the Death Race and you may have seen their various Spartan races advertized around the country. This was a kick-ass obstacle race held over 12 miles on Killington ski trails. It was fun to mix straightforward trailrunning with rope climbing, balance beams, carrying sand bags, crawling under barbed wire, etc.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
Three mile trail run with dogs, white man running shoes...
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 19, 2011 - 05:36pm PT
Nice style, Jaybro.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 20, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
Quick 30+ mi bike ride this morning.
Humid . Lots of lizards.
I've decided this will be my Saturday morning routine now.
Feels great!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Aug 21, 2011 - 11:38am PT
Lizards! Must be lovely scenery to ride through.
I will be running around the 'hood today and despite the urban-suburban setting I will see rabbits, turkeys, squirrels and a lot of wetlands birds. Oh, and the colony of escaped parrots that makes giant nests in the light posts at the ballfields. :)
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Aug 21, 2011 - 11:47am PT
7.5 hour hike up Bridge Mountain in Red Rock. Hot!!! but incredible views.

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 22, 2011 - 01:39pm PT
First day of the year to break 90 degrees. I joined some friends for a quick climb of Mt. Adams. It didn't seem aerobic at all for the first 5,000 vertical feet. However, the thinner air and fast ascent caught up with us about 11,000'. The march to the summit from the false summit took way too long, but the day was perfect. We were on snow from 6,800' to the summit. It was early season snow conditions with perfect weather. 45 - 50 degrees on the summit and a 5 - 10 mph breeze. It doesn't get much better. Skipped my run, but it seems like valid cross-training.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 26, 2011 - 03:39pm PT
Today is Hood to Coast. I had to trade my three "easy" legs for a harder set of legs as one gentleman is nursing an injury. It is a warm day - nice for the legs in the dark, but it will be tough in the afternoons.

Van 1 is checking in, and I'm on Van 2. Keeping our fingers crossed that nothing will go bump in the night. It always does, and there is no cell phone communication between legs 20 - 32. Love the logistical challenge.

Time to finish the carbo loading.....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 30, 2011 - 04:06pm PT
What a weekend of aerobic bliss!!

I understand that many teams had sever traffic issues at Hood to Coast. We planned obsessively and never came close to missing an exchange. The weather was a tad warm, but we dealt with it and finished relatively close to our predicted time. I had three awesome legs and did better than I had a right to expect. This was surprising to me given a) the lack of real training miles b) the lack of races earlier this year and 3) piling into a curb and sprawling on the ground in mile 1 of my first leg. It was dark, and I didn't see the curb. After finding the required blinking lights and reassembling, I still managed to beat my predicted time for that leg, and the next two legs. I love team events, and this year did not disappoint.
Following 45 hours without sleep, I took one day of rest with just a jaunt down Lava Canyon with my family and out-of-state guests. Monday I took a group up Mt. St. Helens. Thankfully the group moved quite slowly up to 7,200'. My duaghter's boyfriend then decided a nap was more appealing than finishing the climb. I took my husband's brother to the rim and back. It was surprisingly effortless, probably due to the very slow pace up to that point.

Back to running today. I am looking forward to it. That's a good sign. I see a distinct drop-off in aeroib thread check-ins. Don't let the summer heat beat you!!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Oct 4, 2011 - 03:52pm PT
A few shots from riding around the block, trying to average 40 to 80 miles a week on the mtb before wintah.



goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Oct 4, 2011 - 05:46pm PT
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Oct 4, 2011 - 06:02pm PT
Fall is the best time of year for aerobic activity. Hope you are all still getting out there.

Yes, I am the colorful one.

Love the feeling of power that runs through the body while pounding the pavement in fall. It was too drizzly for fun climbing this weekend and family was visiting. This is an excellent excuse to do a fall wine run. This type of race is becoming more common. If you want to bring home some hardware, find a brand new race to enter. I ran in the inaugural run near my house and scored 4rth woman. I picked the 10K to work on regaining some speed and acknowledging the low mileage in the bank this year (casualty of other sports). My 10K time was definitely running, not bordering on jogging. Excellent and unexpected. The remainder of the afternoon was spent at the various vitners tasting the fruit we ran by in the morning. All the proceeds went to charity. If you want to indulge in your passion for running, food, wine, and feel altruistic, this is definitely the way to do it. Next year, I will do the 1/2 marathon since I will have more miles in the bank.

See you back on the road.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Oct 5, 2011 - 08:55am PT
What lovely scenery to bike through, Goatboy! Are those patches of snow left over from winter 2010-2011?

I have been running shorter races, including some Spartan races which mix trail running with obstacles. It has been a summer of mud and abrasions :)
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Oct 6, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
yah that's leftover shnow, we're trying to keep a few patches around.


five mile trail run in the Indian Peaks.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2011 - 11:47am PT
Keep the psyche!

I've been doing almost daily trailruns alternating with bike rides, no cool photos like you guys though. Or Cool adventures like The Lisa

Way to go all!
foxglove

Social climber
long beach ca
Oct 7, 2011 - 11:50am PT
running almost every night or morning, my road bike needs a tune up and im poor, gotta get new climbing shoes and join the local rock gym. running will have to suffice
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 7, 2011 - 11:52am PT
1k of mini traxing knobs-apparently the last day of the meadows season for me.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Oct 7, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
Just started bike commuting a few weeks ago, and am really digging it. Up until last month, I hadn't ridden a bicycle in over 20 years. The commute is about 12 miles round trip, or 10 miles if it’s not a gym day. Been doing it twice a week, and plan on getting it to three days. I start work at 5:30am, so riding down the big open empty LA avenues in the morning is a blast. The after work ride is more heads up with all the knuckleheads driving and texting at the same time, but no issues yet. The typical week looks like this now, with the bike added in on whatever days I'm organized enough to get all my sh#t together the night before:

Monday: Crossfit
Tuesday: Climbing Gym
Wednesday: Crossfit
Thurs/Fri: Rest (sort of, still work)
Sat/Sun: Climbing
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2011 - 04:23pm PT
Nice, cho!
Trusty Rusty

Social climber
Tahoe area
Oct 7, 2011 - 04:55pm PT
My wife and I joined a local TRX class a couple weeks ago. Thinking about it stirs the unease of a bad peyote trip. My wife ran 500 plus miles last year, and with the exception of a few liberal vices, I'm considerably fit. Nevertheless, each session leaves us in a state of battered humility and internal question of well-being. As usual with class fitness, intensity varies per teacher/student, but if you love pain, go check it out.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 7, 2011 - 06:58pm PT
goatboy, beautiful shots.

Finally got out on the mt. bike during lunch after probably a good six weeks off the bike. Temps were perfect and dust was nil thanks to the rain a couple of days ago. The uphills felt a little grim, but sweet to get out. A gorgeous day.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Nov 11, 2011 - 05:42pm PT
easing back into running with a 2 mile run today.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2011 - 06:06pm PT
Me two, four miles of slickrock.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Nov 12, 2011 - 03:34pm PT
It is fabulous running weather here still - 45F and dry in the morning. Thanks to the end of DST it is also bright at 0600 but that will not last much longer.
Did some 800M sprints and squat cleans today so hamstrings are toast.
Going climbing tomorrow - outside of course :)
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Nov 12, 2011 - 04:06pm PT
Don't forget your muscles need rest days to grow and heal up/.

random photo from imgur
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2011 - 04:28pm PT
Negro Bill cnyn, rainbow arch +. 5 fingers, five miles, 3 creek crossings, brrr!
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Nov 12, 2011 - 06:41pm PT
Jay,

I joined your sicko club this summer.Usually just 3-5 miles.Feeling stronger for sure.Lost weight also.Have done a couple odd big days also. 80 mile mtn bike....and a really exhausting big horn sheep recovery;my second roped retrieval for $$$ !!!! 65 lbs in a haulbag upball bearing scree with consequences. Happy running would love to catch up with you someday. Tim
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 12, 2011 - 06:55pm PT
The local 5 miles trail run was completed between storms. Signed up for a few more races this year to keep the momentum going. The dreary days definitely drain my solar powered batteries. Need to drive a long way to hike since it is hunting season, and the locals take that very seriously.

Will be running on Turkey Day. Very traditional. Expect to see some posts from others on Turkey Day.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2011 - 07:43pm PT
Woohoo, Good on ya, Tim!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2011 - 02:35am PT
Yesterday, hidden valley trail Moab 6 miles
Today, well yesterday now, the pipedream trail loop 8 miles.

Both on 5fingers.

And,
I plotted out my own, do it yourself half marathon, from my door roundtrip with only maybe a mile worth of pavement. The rest on good trails!

Climbing tomorrow/today, though!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 22, 2011 - 06:21pm PT
Both on 5fingers.

ummm...sounds very ape-like.

I saw earlier you did the Negro Bill Canyon...one of my favorites in Moab...all the way back to Morning Glory Arch. Ferret and I did a simul rappell off of it a couple years ago. Hiked down from up by SlickRock trail to the top of the arch, then down and out.

Been trail running at Nisene Marks, Wilder Ranch and Waddell. Old school. On 10 toes (actually got a new pair of trail running shoes after almost sliding down into Aptos Creek last week). This afternoon will hit the trail at lower DeLaVeaga Park ... all here in Santa Cruz.

Sweatin' Susan

salad

climber
Escondido
Nov 30, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
4.3 this morning. got 8 in on sunday, which is my longest since june.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Nov 30, 2011 - 10:16pm PT
ran 3 miles today and yesterday.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 30, 2011 - 10:22pm PT
Power-walked 1 mile at lunch with 12 ounce water bottles , swinging arms vigorously...Now i am going to do a Billies Boot Camp workout...My friends think i am insane but i think it is just petty jealously on their part..? RJ
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Nov 30, 2011 - 10:49pm PT
Stomach exercises, back ups and push ups this morning and then 45 minutes on my bike on my fluid trainer after work.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
Grueling jumar seminar today.....
salad

climber
Escondido
Dec 4, 2011 - 12:17am PT
did a 15 mile hike this morning. quite beautiful through lake hodges and olivenhain damn etc. Looks like i have been roped into a grand canyon rim to rim to rim thing this spring. good times with old high school bros, lots of laughs.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 4, 2011 - 12:35am PT
Eight mile cross country ski on Brainard Lake (Ward, CO) trail system.
Conditions were GUD
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Dec 4, 2011 - 01:26am PT
2.5 hr striding session at Cypress above West Van. The wax gods were smiling and permitted a rare day of extra-blue kick in the land of big trees, big wet-snow, and big klister!!!! This is the second day on snow, first striding.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Dec 4, 2011 - 08:14pm PT
I hiked to the top of the Moab Rim in 21 minutes this afternoon. It took a little longer getting down.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Dec 5, 2011 - 07:55pm PT
I knocked off over a minute on today's hike up to the rim. It was quite painful. I think I'm going to start adding weight to my pack and try to keep it under 20 minutes. No pain, no gain.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Dec 6, 2011 - 10:55pm PT
Good idea, The Larry. It will force adaptation and then if you go back to an unweighted ascent you will do it even faster.

I only did 10 sets of 30 seconds all out sprints with 2 minutes' rest between each one, and it hurt! 2 minutes of rest seems excessive but it was valuable for recovery. The goal was to run the same distance or more each round.
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Dec 7, 2011 - 05:32am PT
Started my winter routine of riding the bike on rollers in the basement.
Amazing how much longer the minutes at the end of the session are than the ones at the start.
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Dec 7, 2011 - 01:05pm PT
Dec 5th. 10 x 36# kettkebell swings every min. x 30min. Not aerobic? Try it!

Dec 6th. H.I.T. laps on climbing wall and some pull-ups. 20 x 65# deadlifts x 6 sets.

Today I'm leaving 18 degree Truckee to go to 25 degree Reno and Mt bike @ Keystone Canyon. Not

my favorite (rather be nordic skiing today) but it's better than bitchin' about the lack of snow.

see my blog
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Dec 7, 2011 - 01:14pm PT
Heading out to do 4X4min level 4 intervals at Auburn Ski Club, there is about 1.5k of well groomed skating, it takes a certain zen like attention to get a great nordic workout on 1.5 k without feeling like a hamster in a cage! Mammoth classic race this weekend, has not been cancelled, they are having the racers stride up the Minaret Summit Road, from Main Lodge to Minaret View, bomb back down, turn around and repeat...Still think I might head down there, all trained up and nowhere else to race!

Hey Spike! I want to check out the kettle ball workouts sometime, heard good things... I recently realized I am working in the same circles as Kim, and enjoyed meeting your cool kids the other day at for Goodness Sake!

Lets get out and make some tracks or turns one of these days!

Peter
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Dec 7, 2011 - 01:51pm PT
Good idea, The Larry. It will force adaptation and then if you go back to an unweighted ascent you will do it even faster

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Taking a couple of days off to do some highlining. Although the hike out to it will be aerobic and a lot of weight on my back, so I guess I won't be taking a break.
John Mac

Trad climber
Littleton, CO
Dec 7, 2011 - 02:28pm PT
Just started by base training program for next years mtb races. Basically 8 to 10 hours a week on roller or trainer watching either 24 reruns or suffefest videos depending on the workout...

Come April I'll be ready to go!

http://www.thesufferfest.com/video-sufferfests/hell-hath-no-fury/
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Dec 8, 2011 - 08:39pm PT
Sounds good Peter. Have you checked out my

blog

...look @ the video!! Thanks, Mike D.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2011 - 10:47pm PT
the Jaybro Moab do it yourself trail half marathon Probably known by other things, with varying details.

A killer run through spectacular scenery, complete with views 'nshit less than two miles on pavement!
This may only make sense to the Larry, but here's the layout. Start at camp lonestar, NW corner Main and central. Go west on Central a block until it deadends. Turn left. Go over the pedestrian bridge, hang a right and run along the trail by the creek till 500 west. Take that to Kane creek road (major construction currently, but there is pedestrian access.) go left, Take a quick right on the steep right on the steep foot trail in about 100 feet. Now you're clear to take the pipeline road (or the more scenic and difficult pipedream trail) some five miles south of town to the hidden valley trailhead. From here take the Hidden valley trail, very steep and slow for the first mile to the top of the scenic red cliffs west of Moab {You've probablly wondered if there was some climbing there.) Take this trail for Aprox three miles where it intersects with the Moab rim OHV road (thas some gnarly sheeit them 4 wheelers do) past any amount of scenery worthy of a national park! After six miles you're down at the Moab rim Trailhead on Kane Creek road! one plus miles of pavement gets you to 500 west where you reverse your earlier steps.


Gaurraunted killer! Jaybro say, Check it out!

Do not get confused at the start of the final downhill where it looks like the trail ends, like I did (ignore the signs and follow 4 wheeler tracks). or you could spend several hours (like I did) and maybe another four or more miles, (like I did) running up sand hill then south then checking out every Aaron Ralston cliffing death fall slot cnyon even when you are within 100 yards of the kane creek road (like I did) before deciding it will get dark and cold soon (it did, maybe 20º as I type this @9pm) and heading back where you should have gone in the first place (like i did).

Cool run, I needed a 20 miler today, anyway....


I tried to post from mile eight, but though emails would go through
I couldn't get the taco...


edit,
Photo from mile 8 "cold as f*#k up here in running shorts"
I'll flip it after my upcoming twelve hour nap....
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Dec 9, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
Ran the Las Vegas 1/2 marathon in 1:41:44 along the strip at night. Not bad considering I only ran two days in a row about twice in the last two months and my longest run was 6 miles, which I did twice. Hiking to climbs didn't seem to give me the same training as actually running. Time to just let the approach hikes be my cardio so yesterday I hiked to Bridge Mountain (about 10 miles). Do any of you older folk (I'm 62) find that your cardio is solid but the big limiting factor is the legs. I was hardly breathing hard during the 1/2 marathon but my legs were like logs near the end.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
I'm 55 and my pelvis feels like 90, at the moment.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Dec 10, 2011 - 10:53am PT
Wow Jbro. That looks like a killer loop. I'm might have to work my way up to that one. Nice job!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 11:06am PT
All right, up and at 'em Sully!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Dec 10, 2011 - 06:16pm PT
Well done Dogfather! Faster than my half marathon time and I was 34 the last time I ran one.

Jaybro, congrats on surviving the mini epic. At least you got some good mileage today albeit unintentionally.

I ran 9 urban miles at 08:30 minute pace, then coached a speed session for my club so got some speedwork in. Then I benched. Nice mix of runner/meathead work today :)
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Dec 10, 2011 - 06:21pm PT
Getting the absolute most out or our little 2k loop at Auburn Ski Club, strangely the snow quality is a lot better than the last two weekends, no wind, no debris, no water ice patches...just smooth corduroy for skating. Did 3X15 minute level 3 intervals. This level feels like race pace in a long race, have to hold back a bit on the uphills. Tomorrow I am going to "zen out" for 2.5 hours long slow distance, might have to listen to some stimulating podcast to handle that long on a track that short...

Hoping winter finally comes maybe week after next...

Peter
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
I ushered in the new year with a mellow 8 mile mtn bike ride.

I also started my annual pull-up/ invert routine. one more each day. Last year I kept that up until April. Taking rest days as need, but always making up the missed pull-ups. so you start getting multiple hundred pull-up days...I ended up doing over 4,00 pull-ups last year. I did little mini refreshers in July and October. Only, starting at 30/day and only lasting a couple of weeks or so, each time. I'll have to check my records. Anyone seen my records? Got to over 30 pull-ups at a shot, but never got back to my former hundred in three sets, maybe this year...

This year i'm doing it a little different. I had a good year last year and am starting '12 with a higher level of Base fitness, so i'm wearing a 20 lb weight vest for my pull-ups / invert sit-ups.

Day one, one of each down!

I've had the slows since that long run in Moab, as well as a cold/walking pneumonia, a colorful puking in mid pitch incident, possible valley fever, etc

So, I've only run two or three times since the ninth and maybe a couple bike rides. The day before yesterday I did a 45 minute trail run, then had an El cap day in the gym with young Daphne, that seemed pretty endurance oriented....

So happy new years all, happy trails and/or whatever path does it for you!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 1, 2012 - 06:18pm PT
Thanks Jay, I knew this thread would pop up real soon.

OK...a 7 mile hike, not overly strenuous in the Land of Medicine Buddha in the Soquel Hills. It's a sacred place so I "meditate hike" plus they have stations where you can stop and read/reflect on the 8 Verses Pilgrimage Trail.

Tomorrow back to my outdoor circuit training group...after 2 weeks, off...wonder what she has in store for us...at Fall Creek State Park. arrgh. I'll check in if able. Ha Ha

Susan


edit: PS get better....leave what happened in 2011 in 2011!
fosburg

climber
Jan 1, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
10k skate race at Soldier Hollow yesterday, heinous! Disappointed in my 14th place finish but achieved my goal of not wiping out.
Karen

Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
Jan 1, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
You guys are hardcore! Ok, today began the New Year and brought it in by taking a fast walk down at the beach. Crazy weather, people laying out in swimsuits.
Working on building endurance, it's coming along. My intent is be able to comfortably complete long climbs next summer as well as ski tours in a few months-if we ever get enough snow!!!

Happy New Year, hoping you all will stay healthy and injury free!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jan 1, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
Right on Fosburg! I would be stoked with 14th place up here in Tahoe with all the college kids home but even more stoked to just get to race. Today the race was cancelled due to too much mud. Heading to Bend to race this weekend...

Happy New Year!

Peter
fosburg

climber
Jan 1, 2012 - 07:56pm PT
Uh, er... I should have qualified, 14th in my age group. Quite a few good skiers around here...
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:28pm PT
So what's the deal with intervals? anyone know how to do them right?

Not sure if I'm doing them "right", I follow the HIIT methods recommended to me by a trainer. I train with a heart reate monitor to stay at optimal aerobic and close to max heart rate for anaerobic.

Is there a resource you recommend for me to cross check what they say compared to what I'm doing?

Thanks,

Susan
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
A few days back, the lady and I ran from our house down to Indian Rock without stopping (maybe 1-2 miles?) which was a major accomplishment for us. We walked back. Have to start somewhere!

It actually felt surprisingly easy, because my only modern connection with exercise is heavy climbing pack & water/etc. on scrambling approach to climbs. I usually like to practice for that by sitting in a chair all day, with occasional breaks to sit on a couch.

Le_bruce, I may need some external encouragement to keep it up (the running part, not the couch part).
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jan 1, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
RE: Intervals

Intervals are an important part of the training I do. I really don't know how training for nordic racing might be different than for other sports, but we generally do longer level 3 intervals in the summer and autumn, and switch to an emphasis on Level 4 intervals starting in November, and through the race season. The idea with Level 3 is that you are "pushing up" your anaerobic threshold by training just below it. I can't remember what percentage of your maximum HR level 3 is, (I have had mine tested with blood lactate levels taken while rollerskiing) but I am sure someone else here can provide the specifics. Subjectively, it feels like the pace in a long race. I worked up to doing 3 repeats of 15 minutes each at that level, using a heart rate monitor. With Level 4's we generally do "4 X 4's" 4 repeats of 4 minutes each with a 3 minute rest between. These are hard, like the pace in a short race, at the max, but still maintaining good technique. The key is not to many such workouts without adequate rest. During the race season, we just do one interval workout on Wednesdays when we race on Sunday. Right now with races being cancelled due to lack of snow, I have still been doing my long level 3's on Saturday, and my hard level 4 on Wednesday. Other workouts are strength, and distance with short speed bursts.

There are variations we do on the Level 4's, like pyramids, a 1 minute, a 2 minute, a 3, then 4 then 5, then 4, 3, 2, 1. Or .30 .30's, a 10 minute set of 30 seconds like a bat out of hell, then 30 seconds slow etc. 3 sets of these.

Keep in mind this is not a beginner routine, this is after some months of lots of mileage long and slow, for highly trained nordic racers...

Peter
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jan 1, 2012 - 11:15pm PT
Have been trying to run at least a few days per week particularly when not climbing.I like the pull up routine. I am going to go do my one right now.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jan 1, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
Just got done with my one pull up. I think this is going to work.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jan 2, 2012 - 08:04am PT
Because you don't get the "same effect". It depends on what you call "performance".

From SkiPost:

Determinants of performance

Vo2 Max - maximum oxygen uptake (Engine Size - how big is the engine?) This is the ability of the circulatory system to transport oxygen and of the muscular system to extract and use oxygen. Vo2 max is an excellent indicator of aerobic fitness, but a poor predictor of performance within a homogenous group of athletes.

Lactate Threshold - (RPM's - how high can you race the engine?) Lactate threshold (LT) is the ability to continue using the aerobic system to replenish ATP at high speeds. It is expressed as power output at LT, velocity of LT or percentage of Vo2 max. LT is one of the best predictors of endurance performance.

Economy - (MPG - how many miles per gallon does your engine get?) Economy can be defined as the amount of oxygen that it takes for an individual athlete to go a given speed. More economical athletes will have a lower oxygen cost at a given pace relative to a less economical athlete. This can explain why an athlete with a lower VO2 max can still outperform an athlete with a higher VO2 max. Economy is one of the best predictors of endurance performance.

Strength. Strength is defined as the maximum force that can be produced in one all out effort. Muscular endurance is related to being able to maintain a submaximal force repeatedly.

Training Zones

Optimal performance is reached by subjecting the body to specific types of stress in order to elicit specific types of adaptations. Using the Lactate Threshold lactate level or heart-rate, as we have done here, is the most precise way to determine training zones.

Recovery
Intensity: Level 1. Easy, 2-3mmol/L below LT; 30-50 bpm below LT.
Duration: 30 mins. - 1.5 hours.
Objective: This zone is used for warm-up and cool-down periods. Training at this intensity will promote recovery following glycogen-depleting workouts or high intensity intervals and maintain cardiovascular and muscular adaptations. The primary goal of recovery is to deliver O2 and CHO (carbohydrates) back to the muscles.

Endurance
Intensity: Level 2. Moderate, 1-2 mmol/L below LT; 10-30 bpm below LT. Level 1. Easy, 2-3 mmol/L below LT; 25-50 bpm below LT.
Duration: 30 mins. - 3 hours.
Objective: A moderate intensity is the optimum zone for improving endurance adaptations. An easy intensity delivers the same benefits, but more slowly. Unlike many athletes in bipedal and less-weight bearing sports, most skiers do most of their endurance training at the easier of these two intensities (around 35 bpm below LT). Training in both of the endurance zones improves the ability to deliver more oxygen to the muscle cell and process more energy from aerobic sources. Specific training adaptations include an increase in the size and number of mitochondria, an increase in myoglobin, increased capillarization, and an increased number of aerobic enzymes. Skiers tend to lower the intensity the longer the session. Over two hours = level 1. Under an hour = level 2.

Lactate Threshold
Intensity: Level 3. Moderately high, below LT by 5 bpm, or above LT by 5 bpm.
Duration:
· Tempo: 15 to 60 minute continuous effort at 5 bpm below LT.
· Interval: 5 to 15 minutes at LT and up to 5 bpm over LT.
Objective: Training at this intensity will raise LT as a percentage of Vo2 max as well as increase Vo2 max.

VO2 Max
Intensity: Level 4. High, 1-2 mmol/L above LT or at a heart rate associated with 95% of Vo2 max.
Duration: 3-5 minute intervals with half-time to equal recovery.
Objective: This is the optimum zone for improving Vo2 max. Training adaptations include an increase in stroke volume, an increase in maximal aerobic capacity and improved lactate buffering capacity - go fast, hurt less = go faster.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 2, 2012 - 02:26pm PT
6 mile trail run/circuit training in Fall Creek State Park (Felton, CA).

Then filling a shopping basket full of really good stuff at Whole Foods which then drains my whole banking account. Damn, didn't the shopping poltergeist throw some other kind of stuff in there too.




Susan

edit: Thanks Maysho for the interval info. A little more complex for my needs but I get the concept and can adapt for my needs.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2012 - 05:38pm PT
Seven mile trail run (couldn't let SCseagoat get all the miles) the extra hilly (used my hands once) option. I like to think of it as Fartlek meets interval then devolves into a hike...

also day two of pullup/invert sittup w/20# therapy
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 2, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
Return from Christmas with all three of my baby birds. Back to work now. Ran 2 hours on Friday, Taught skiing on Saturday and Sunday. Skinned uphill for 90 minutes and ran 5 miles today. But who is that chunky chick I see in the mirror??!!
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Jan 2, 2012 - 10:08pm PT

I just finished a training cycle I started in late Sept. My goal was to complete this phase by Jan 1st

2012. 1) 50 hours of LSD aka long slow distance. I had hoped that this would be a lot skate skiing

but it turned out to be Mt biking and Airdyne intervals due to lack of snow. 2) Gym Jones 3 month

foundation Plan-I'm really psyched about this, it wasn't easy and I get to do it again!!! I wrote a

little piece on pull-ups on my blog if anyone is

interested. Great thread.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jan 3, 2012 - 10:56am PT
Swam 2.2 miles in Santa Rosa Sound from Shoreline Park to Fort Pickins.
salad

climber
Escondido
Jan 7, 2012 - 01:10am PT
got a 14 mile hike/jog in at daly ranch Monday.

alarm is set for 3:30am for a 23 miler sat morn (prob only hiking. with a group of guys that want to do the grand canyon rim to rim to rim in a day in March).
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
The first week of '12;
3 x 8 miles mtb =24 miles bikes
3 mile run
7 mile run = 10 miles running
2 mile? walk =2
total =36 miles


And continuing the pull-up / invert sit-up thing, even though that's OT/ not aerobic. Today it started to get interesting. Since yesterday was a rest day I had yesterdays pull-ups 6 plus today's 7, to do. Though 13 is still not much, I can start to feel it. Here is how I did it and maybe someone else can come up with a more imaginative scenario. I put on my 20lb weight vest and inversion cuffs. I did the firs 7 pull-ups and at the top of the last one lifted my feet up to hook the bar with the inversion cuff hooks. Then I did 7 of, not the worlds greatest, sit ups. At the top of the last one, I grabbed the bar, dehooked my ankles and lowered my feet. Then did six more weighted, pull-ups, then hooked the cuffs again and did my six invert sit ups.

I like to do it this way as a continuous exercise, where you get the pull res when doing the sit ups and the other way around. I've done this in configurations up to maybe fifty pull-ups in the past and it turns into a reasonably massive workout after a while, but not that bad since you build up to it gradually. It makes it a routine, in gymnastics, or kinda like an eccentric boulder problem...

I don't know how much this helps my climbing. It's definitely it's own thing, like running, that has climbing benefits on the side; kind of a climbing enhancer. But I did have the best year of climbing in my fifties, by starting out this way, last year. Only, then it was pull ups and dips and only later did I add inverts. Plenty of room for experimentation.....
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jan 8, 2012 - 09:11pm PT
Well, Jaybro, I'm in my fifties too and do at least 200 situps a week, but I haven't tried them inverted. Pretty awesome! I do lift weights twice a week and use an inversion table to stretch my spine.
I jog almost every morning and feel better all day for doing it.
I swim twice a week and that I gotta tell you, swimming is great as crosstraing for climbing for the following reasons.
There is no pounding of the joints.
The forced in-and-out breathing with continuous limb movement has helped my maintain my aerobic endurance on routes and to pump up my oxygen for a hard move. Breathing while running is way too easy.
The reaching and pulling with my arms and the swinging of my arms up to the front translates well to pulling and lifting my arms up high when climbing on a route.
I can isolate on just kicking to work my core muscles, hamstrings and quads until they scream, without injury.
Using my neck muscles helps me keep my eye on my leader for a long time when belaying.
I can frog kick to work my groin muscles, and every of the four main strokes: breast, crawl, butterfly and backstroke work my shoulders in different ways.
I only swim 1,500 meters per session and I am not fast, but I rest for less than a minute during that session. My last session I was able to do a couple of 50 meters of butterfly. I hope to go for a 100 meters of fly by summer.
Swimming does nothing for my calves or my grip. But is very sensual to be in the water, to feel the flow on my skin and adjust my efforts to the flow of the water. I feel amazingly alive when I am done. Sometimes the scenery in the next lane is nice too!

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
Good on ya, 5.9!

14 mile trail run. Shoulda done the pullups/inverts first, but I did do them.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 8, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
Back to the gym this week. Ran Tues. - Fri. Friday was a full day with a 50 minute weight session, 8 mile run, and a visit to the climbing gym. Even the wallpaper looked tasty by the time I got home! Taught skiing on Saturday. Had level 2 and 4 classes - all wedge turns, all day. Skinned a bit farther today, and I intend to get on the treadmill for a little more intense, but short, aerobic work out this evening. Let's see if that actually happens.

Interval training can work - but keep it controlled. I hate the track and prefer to do my speed bursts in the context of a run on the roads. It does make the measurement trickier. It does lead to faster races. Applied the same principles to snow slogging and also had much success. The benefits fade later, just like all other training regimens.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jan 9, 2012 - 12:09am PT
Ft. Mental, try your hard interval training until you detonate and/or develop injuries and then report back...

... if you search for info about training on-line and even in the exercise journals, I sure you can find something to confirm your preconceptions.

Maysho offered a clear description of basic fitness as practiced by knowledgeable power/endurance athletes throughout the world. It may not be perfect for all but it has proven itself over several decades. Focusing on intervals only gets into messing with hormones and enzymes with potential for long term fatigue problems for some athletes.

No short cuts and no instant fix replace a mix of intensities and training durations.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jan 9, 2012 - 02:59am PT
Whew...Just got in from driving 8 hours straight from Bend back to Donner Summit. Had an incredible "aerobic" weekend, perfect snow, awesome races, skating 10k on Saturday, classic 10k pursuit start today. It was a qualifier for the Junior Olympics, so almost every fast teenager in the Pacific Northwest was there, and some highly skilled masters as well. I felt great about my races, finished 26th in the skate, and 23rd in the classic, (overall) and very happy with my time back from the winners at 2:53 for the skate, and 5:30 in classic (the winner on this one was not present yesterday and seemed very fast.

Hey Todd! If we don't get snow in time for the Rim Tour (Jan. 21) I am seriously considering flying up to do the Methow Valley Pursuit that weekend. Maybe you will be there? If winter won't come to us, we have to go to winter!

Peter
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Jan 9, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
Did Kettle bell breathing ladder today. Here's how you do it.

Swing KB then take a breath.

Do two swings, take 2 breaths.

Do 3 swings and take 3 breaths.

Continue like this until you get to 20 swings and 20 breaths, then start back down to 1.

So that's 39 sets totaling 400 reps in 25 min.

I used a 35# kettlebell.

Cardio-stregth training?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2012 - 09:25pm PT
oops I been remiss..
Second week of '12
total of 53 miles, and still current on the pull-ups/inverts
89 miles to date in '12
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jan 26, 2012 - 08:21pm PT
5 mile run today in warm and windy Texas weather.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 26, 2012 - 10:48pm PT
Enough daylight both ways now.

Time to start pedaling my ass to work.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jan 26, 2012 - 10:57pm PT
Donald,
sounds like we are doing similar workouts.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2012 - 11:41pm PT
Fighting a cold, no areobic exercise since last week, Hope to change that tomorrow.

120 Pullups / Invert sittups with #20, today
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jan 27, 2012 - 12:49am PT
Whats your favorite?

right now standard width, 3 sets of 10, because I am having some shoulder issues.
salad

climber
Jan 29, 2012 - 11:03am PT
24 miler yesterday. started in rancho sante fe, through hodges gorge, around the lake into poway via old coach trail to lake poway, up over woodson and back down to 67 where we had a car dropped. fun day.
salad

climber
Feb 5, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
just did a hilly 8 miler (1600 vert).
salad

climber
Feb 12, 2012 - 04:14pm PT
did 15+ yesterday with 6k vert up woodson, etc. good times.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
Haven't checked in a while but it's still going on.
Last week's highlights incluced a 15 mile mtn ride that turned treacherous when I hit the Sheet silicates ( water absorbing clay,) at one point, walking the bike with the wheels too clay-caked to turn, the bulk of the material tripped the quick release on my rear wheel. The fun never stopped.
Other runs, rides were more straight forward, an eight mile ride/ five mile run combo was especially memorable.

So to date for '12;
158 miles
pullups/ invert sittups at 903, (two days behind, as I climbed the last the two days, so looking at 129, latter today.)
53 pitches
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Feb 13, 2012 - 07:03pm PT
So... Since I've not checked in in a while, does regular attendance at a boot camp count??

:D

BB
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 13, 2012 - 07:11pm PT
I've been combining the billies hill billy boot camp extreme workout with the kick , bite , scream video mega-weenie workout and i have to say i'm quite sweaty.........RJ
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2012 - 01:27am PT
yeah, I'm cross training with Primal scream myself...

So just steady miles and work accumulation. Nothing too spectacular, my longest run this year has been 15 miles so far.


As of today I am at 183 miles total.
Pullups and inverted sit-ups total 1326 so far ytd. a;most on schedule but not today because I climbed, so that means either 105 @ tomorrow, or more likely as I think I am climbing tomorrow159@ on Thursday.

As if this new format isn't isn't anal enough I'm counting pitches now too, up to 68 no ytd.

more descriptions of cool runs, w/photos etc soon, I promise....
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 22, 2012 - 01:39am PT
I played several hours of Ultimate tonight, and I didn't throw up or nothing!


... maybe I wasn't running hard enough.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2012 - 02:06am PT
Riley go with some sort of minimalist running shoe and your feet will strike right on their own. I use five fingers. Technigue will help with the shock loading much better than cushioning does.
Also, I reccomends the book Chi Running.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2012 - 02:31am PT
Sportiva cross lite IIs then or, for more cushion, Wildcats.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2012 - 01:03pm PT
Another week; 220 miles ytd
1634 Pullups/ Inverted sittups
77 pitches

The biggest thing for me this week was getting the Map my Runn app for my iPhone.

I know the serious here probably have GPS watches that record this stuff, but I'm on more of a free app, budget.
I have only used it twice, but it gives me a map of of the course I ran, biked, othered.
Complete with elevations. I can click on a button and get it in trail profile mode. Also gives time, pace, calories burned etc. The maps are stored online somewhere. Not sure what I will do with this data ultimatel,y but it's fascinating.

Could also use it for approaches.
I guess i'm out of luck when i take it out of cell range, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Feb 27, 2012 - 01:06pm PT
I usually don't find crossword puzzles very aerobic but the ones in the Nation Magazine...whoah!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
5 across, six letter word for valued shittalker :)
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 27, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
Riley - if possible go to a running shop. they can check your biomechanics and make sure you are in the right type of shoe for your foot.

Most running injuries are not from a lack of cushioning, most are from wearing shoes that are not firm enough to offer adequate support.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Feb 27, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
Went running last Thursday for the first time in over a year. Had a knee problem. Seems like it is gone now. Did just over 5 miles with pretty good pace. Hope I can start doing this stuff more regularly now...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2012 - 10:48pm PT
8 mile bike ride with a 4 mile run in the middle, 900'+ elevation gain, then loss.
followed by 120 pull-ups / inverted situps.

This is just incrementally bigger than my previous days workouts ( except yesterday, that was a rest day) but for some reason, it really took it out of me today, especially the Pullups. I am beat!
bubble boy

Big Wall climber
Mammoth, CA
Mar 2, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
Been running on toes recently and can finally run after 10 years of chronic IT band issues or whatever. Pretty damn psyched. Got up Tungsten Peak (near the Bmilks) in 19:23, think I can beat 19 by just "trying harder" - goal is increase aerobic base and get the 18 min mark. Wooop!


S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 3, 2012 - 12:07am PT
3 mile walk.
salad

climber
Mar 3, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
Just back from a 40 miler. Not feeling especially comfortable at the moment.
salad

climber
Mar 3, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
run/hike. started at 8pm and bagged 4 local peaks. we are training for grand canyon rim to rim to rim in a push.
bubble boy

Big Wall climber
Mammoth, CA
Mar 4, 2012 - 05:24pm PT
Nice work Salad!!!
fosburg

climber
Mar 4, 2012 - 06:23pm PT
32k skate in preparation for a race on Saturday.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
A good day today; road my bike 3 miles to the trailhead, ran 6 steep miles and made a new friend-see below, got back on bike,biked some steep miles up to Borgus ranch, where I entered the open space, screamed down the dirt road, some of which had become a deep rut horseified and sporty obstacle course, then back on paved trail back home (another 14 miles)

23 miles, 1573 calories burnt ( I'll never catch up with Salad or Kevin)

Then did today's allotment of Pullups/Inverted sit-ups 64@
so, for the week
59 miles
427 Pullups/ inverted sit-ups

YTD
279 miles
2082 Pullups / Inverted sit ups

My new running buddy ( I said I'd get back to posting visuals!)

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Also since the talk here gets into training in general check out this link part of Shanti's blog addressing a unique and innovative approach to off width training

http://pamelashantipack.com/2012/03/02/training-for-wide-crack-climbing/


Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 4, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
^^^^
No human companion of a border collie can get away with that.
North

climber
Mar 4, 2012 - 10:53pm PT
7 rounds for time of:

7 handstand pushups
7 knees to elbows
7 deadlifts 185#
7 power pushups
7 burpees
7 pullups
7 squats

Guarantee that this will be not only powerful, but aerobic as well. Don't believe it? Just try and do this under 20 minutes. Running, cycling, rowing, hiking, etc are not the only means of aerobic activity.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Mar 4, 2012 - 11:58pm PT
Hill training bike workout on my fluid trainer. 45 minutes, sweating like a pig, hit max heart rate numerous times. Weights next week and maybe climbing at Smith on Friday.
roadman

climber
Mar 5, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
11 mile trail run in 1:59 Sat.
10 mile mtb ride in 1:20 Sun.
5 mail trail run __today....hope everyone's getting after it! Whatever "it" is for you!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
another week mostly men bike rides this week
Wednesday 10 miles
Thursday 12
Friday 8
saturday 15
Today was a 16M bike ride and a 10 mile trail tun
71 miles for the week 350 ytd
Pullups were up to date as of yesterday, 2,497. I'm supposed to do 71, today and after that mixed marathon I don't know if that's gonna happen or not.
inverts are at a crisis, I broke the remaining strap on my left inversion cuff, so I'm five days behind on that (at about 2000)

Anyone have a left inversion cuff they don't want?
I've been doing other abs, but haven't figured out how best to quantify them...

The other day I got an interesting email, from the folks at Map my run ( thanks again, enjoimx, for the reccomendation.) They sent me a 3/3-3/9 summary, inyreseting concept. see below. it's inc complete since I didn't track one ride I had mapped previously, and it does't do anything with my pull-up.climbing/other data, still. it has potential



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PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Mar 11, 2012 - 09:44pm PT
I started Crossfit last week and had an intense first day on Wednesday.... 4 rounds of 27 box jumps, 20 burpees, 11 squat cleans @ 65lbs for time. My legs have been sore since.

Yesterday I was in the Valley to do some rope-soloing. I bumped into Erik Sloan in the Lodge parking lot while I was racking up. At 12:15 we blasted off on Royal Arches simul-climbing. We topped out at the rap station in 1:35!I was huffing and puffing the whole way and nearly puked twice. I kept on keeping on by taking a few more steps....then a few more...and so on. I slowed down a bit at the traverse, then sped up after.

I never would have thought I would ever speed climb anything. It was awesome. And today I'm not that sore! It was my first time climbing with Erik and hopefully won't be the last! Super cool dude!
Old&InTheWay

Trad climber
NC
Mar 11, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
I've been training for my first MTB endurance race. Today was my best effort so far:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/157171235
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
Woot!
salad

climber
Mar 17, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
12 miles this morning. was going to do 15 but man i was a wet rat and back near the car. got back home just as the bacon and green pancakes were coming of the stove.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2012 - 02:25pm PT
Too funny! I just came In from a wet 7 miler. First this soggy week.
salad

climber
Mar 17, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
life without parole!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
Bingo!
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 17, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
@I&ITW How do you rate the accuracy of that Garmin 500?

I hate running in the rain, but they're predicting 60 mile an hour winds and 12-18 inches of snow on Mt. Laguna. Now that would make for some interesting hiking.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
The End of another week.
Only got two days in because the dirt was wet and I'm a wimp
21 Miles on the bike
371 ytd
Kept up with pull-ups, 3093 ytd. Today being the 78th day of the year, was 78 pull-up day.
Woefully behind on inverted sit-ups since my left inversion cuff blew out over a week ago. Am experimenting with a strap to hold the cuff on, and me in it! tentative so far... as it is I'm 930 inverts behind schedule. if this strap thing works I'll make up some of that, not sure if I'll be able to make up the difference though...

This does not bode well for certain ab intensive goals for '12. Hows that for pre-registering excuses?!

After today's bike ride I hit the "Share" button for the software I've been using, to see what happens. Now I believe all the aerobic stuff, at least what I've, recorded on my phone is fb accessible. Odd world we live in.....
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 22, 2012 - 05:52pm PT
Hey Jaybro, how you doin' those pullups? In sets of ...?

I'm feeling pretty good. Since my knee has let up on the pain I was able to run (Mon - 66min and 68min) (Tues - 90min and 64min). I've taken to wearing a Neoprene brace at all times when not running. It really seems to help. The maker claims by increasing heat and blood flow.

These little wheels give a real good ab (and triceps) workout. I sometimes load up a backpack with 20 lbs and wear it while doing them. The backpack approach also works for pullups instead of hanging a weight from a belt around your waste. Another variation of the wheel is to kneel on a bench to start, though I don't think it's that beneficial when considered in light of the increased strain on your back. Also, I put my chest onto the floor on each repetition.


Standing variation - watch your back here!

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S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 22, 2012 - 05:57pm PT
3 mile run around the local lake.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
17 mile trail run. Most of the way up Mt Diablo and back, in honor of Malcolm, a healIng run to send good juju his way. Photos to follow.
About three miles in, note cow trampled trail. The route follows the skyline ridge

4 stomached rototillers

The view back down the same ridge from close to my high point





My "summit" shot

The true summit, another 5? Miles

Back down;

Don't these ladies ever go anywhere else?


This was the first time my feet got sore in five fingers. During recent rain the cows churned up much of the trail dirt. Now the California kiln like sun has baked the clay soil into knobs and ridges, which can be uncomfortable to tired feets. The pain started to hurt the bottoms of my feet about mile 14. I'm counting on a training affect, and will try a longer run next week!

Hey zBrown, I've got one of those wheels too! I use it as part of my Wyde crack core training. My newest technique, a variation on a theme from Shanti; kneel on a Swiss ball and roll out on the wheel normally eventually unwinding the legs so that only the tops of the feet are on it. Takes practice!! As she told me "wear a helmet, really!"

Also, On the pullups, it depends how I feel on a given day. On strong days, I do a warmup and then try to do the quota in as few sets as possible. On weak days I start early and sets of ten/20 throughout the day. Sometimes I do progressive amounts such as the square of the highest number of reps is total for the daily quota. ie, if the total is to be 100, do progressive sets starting at 1, then working up to 10, and back down.
DT, I get that same above the elbow pain too sometimes.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 22, 2012 - 11:58pm PT
you guys put me to shame, but it motivates me to do more..
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 23, 2012 - 12:19am PT
Hey Jaybro - good info. When I first read it I thought maybe you were doing upwards of 70 at a time. That would be very impressive indeed.

I'll give that ab wheel on the ball a shot, had never heard of it before.

It's funny how different exercises have idiosyncratic results (e.g. the lower tricep pain - I've never experienced it). But, I started doing fingertip pull-ups, worked up to 10 sets of 14 and the tendon in my left ring finger started to hurt, so I backed off. What I don't get is why just one tendon and one hand.

Another interesting one I tried was pushups, one hand each on a stability ball and the feet on a third. It went pretty well for a while, but eventually my wrists started hurting, so I backed off.

Another ab exercise, which I'm not able to do very will is windshield wipers (lots of 'em on youtube).

Good for us all!

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2012 - 12:26am PT
70 at a time? nah!
I can do about 31 now on a good day. I try not to be over critical on technique so maybe I can do say 34 and the last ones are sub par, but i can fire off 26 perfect ones, etc and the numbers get higher, all the time
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 23, 2012 - 12:59am PT
^^
V. Good! Prolly excellent.

Now there was some Olympic athlete, I can't remember which event, who used to do his pullups with his girlfriend on his back.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2012 - 01:14am PT
I once did 2 pullups with 110lb ex girlfriend ( not ex, then) on my back and thought I could do more, but then she bit my ear and, um it was all over for that part of the workout.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 23, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
I'm on a roll, two more >60 min runs yesterday without any knee pain. I've wanted to do the Imogene Pass run over in Ouray for a while now, may actually be able to. Also,

I'm told that the world record for pullups in one minute is held by Crytal West at 36. Her form might be just slightly sketchy, but she is impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kTpuaJszpU

However, this guy appears to have done 62.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baS9RlhHpsU&feature=related

And the proverbial my girlfriend's on my back again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDDCt6PXNI
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Mar 23, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
Picked up a paddleboard for taking long rides along the inter coastal.
Good for two or three hours out every other day with a wicked core burn afterward, very tricky, kinda like slack lining but harder.

coloradohigh

Trad climber
rocky mountain trench
Mar 23, 2012 - 05:29pm PT
His ego is a little over-the_top, but damn ...

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 23, 2012 - 05:54pm PT
Casual recovery ski today, Hard intervals yesterday, skating 3-2-1's, 3 minutes hard, 1 minute rest, 2mins hard, 1 rest, 1 hard, 1 rest...rest 4 minutes and repeat 3 times total... 2" of fresh cold on top of the rain soaked snow layer...fun race at Royal Gorge this Sunday, Summit Station to Wilderness lodge, 10k with a net downhill. I am giving a "learn to race"? clinic tomorrow at Royal Gorge, as they are hoping to entice first time racers. Come on up!

Peter

ps. final race of the season for me is the Mammoth Marathon, next weekend..42k spectacular route through the Mammoth Lakes Basin, then I start climbing season.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2012 - 06:24pm PT
After yesterday's run I'm creaking around like an old (er) man hard to stand up from a chair etc. I did get in a flat 5 mile bike ride to try to put off rigor mortis....not sure it helped.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 24, 2012 - 12:18am PT
you guys put me to shame, but it motivates me to do more..

I can remember when I decided to start running. Went over to Newport Harbor High School and could barely do 1 X 440 lap around the track. I hung in, kept gradually doing more and more. Start from wherever you are and build up.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 24, 2012 - 12:22am PT
"Kali muscle man" - Big strong dude, but I've seen alot more consecutive muscle ups. Wonder why Zimmerman didn't confront him.

"71 Year old ab roller" - Well OK I'm only 65 and I don't do 'em in my pajamas and a do-rag, but yeah I can do it (I use some carboard to roll on which increases the drag), but I'm tired at the end. No one ever video'd me so I hadn't seen it, but check out those tri's flexin'.

Goatboy - cool ride. What are the intercoastals? New term to me.

Maysho - don't know about the intervals but the 42K sounds like fun, my cousin in Finland does some long treks.

Jaybro - Whatcha gonna do? I started out on my first run today and knee was sketchy. To be safe, I went and did 90 on the elliptical instead. Last time I "ran through it" and was limping for a couple of weeks. BTW this is a fun and useful thread you created.






Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 24, 2012 - 12:37am PT
Funny definition of "aerobic" to include strength stuff...

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Mar 24, 2012 - 02:12am PT
My weight work-out left my glutes complaining. I was plodding about and noted an "older" man merging onto my run. Not about to go down easy, I picked up the pace going down the hill. Eventually the man catches me and gives me hell about youngsters purposely embarassing the older generation. I noted that I qualify for an AARP card. A fun conversation ensued. He mentioned that he began running in high school and figured out that was a fountain of youth. He became hooked for life. Between the two of us, we had over 80 years on the road.

Funny how the whining muscles complain less when the "competition" shows up!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2012 - 06:40am PT
I once ran a trail marathon outside of Truckee ( serene lakes) when I was maybe forty. Just before the start I noticed a women in running attire breast feeding an infant. I passed her early on....then at mile twenty five she passed me while deep in conversation with a white haired man who turned out to be 68. When I finished the run she was already nursing her kid at the sidelines. It had been just over four hours and it was time for the young'ns next feeding, the 68 yr old had decided it was time for a beer. Fitness comes in all ages and categories......


Mr Eastman, the reccuring strength training thread drift was introduced, agreed upon and thus sanctioned, over a year ago, try to keep up.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 24, 2012 - 11:11am PT
Thanks Jaybro, I'll go back and read the some 700 posts to see where I got of track...

... meanwhile, it's the middle of ski season up this way with some 300 in at Baker for general fitness based activity on XC and touring skis...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2012 - 11:13am PT
Sounds like fun

You must be so proud....
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 24, 2012 - 11:42am PT
Jaybro, no not proud, just competent...
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 24, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
Strength and aerobics go together hand and lungs.


David Googins, who lives here in Chula Vista is certainly no slouch in the aerobic arena. As a precaution he doesn't park where it's not allowed and never wears a hoodie in public.


Fitness comes in all ages and categories......

I hear that. I find myself doing comparisons, but usually come back to just comparing me to me. I remember pursuing running more vigorously when my father had a heart attack at the breakfast table and died at age 62. I've stuck with strength training when I found that if I coupled it with running my weight went down and stayed down and I could drink those tasty beers.

Gott go (run).



Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2012 - 02:08am PT
A good week, 75 miles. Mostly on the bike, but I did get in the one 17 mile traIl run.

I'm so behind on my abs quota I may never get caught up. Pull ups however, are up to date; 3655, today was day 85.

It's all going to change I'm going on the road soon which is going to mean more climbing, less training. I hope it's going to mean more and more adventurous trail runs.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 26, 2012 - 07:34am PT
I have been doing "wheels" since December 18th. for my Abs. Finished week 14 yesterday. 30,730 total. Finally got a construction job. Start work today wearing my t-shirt tucked in and a belt:-)
Roger
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Mar 26, 2012 - 10:26am PT
I have a pretty regular chin-up and hang board routine that seems to be reaping rewards and keeping me injury free (knock wood). By rewards, I mean it has allowed me to climb lower 11's (and an occasional mid 11), which for me is good at 62.

I do my chinups on a Metolious Simulator on the second row of crimps from the bottom i.e. one pad. I do a set every minute for 20 minutes and am currently doing 8 reps per set. I have a great iphone app that allows me to setup intervals of high intensity and low intensity and it changes music on each change.

After the chins, I use the iphone app to do 20 more intervals but these are simply dead hangs from the bottom row of holds on the simulator. 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off. I will sometimes use the two finger pockets with the first two fingers for one set and the next two for the next.

I only do this workout once a week and add three sets of bench, flys, and dips to hit the opposing muscles.

Cardio is currently 4 miles three or four days a week.
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Mar 26, 2012 - 10:49am PT
Checkin in !!! Yesterday ran 15+ miles of very dim trail in the desert north of Phoenix. A good day. Complete with the obigatory rattlesnake strike.....whew that was a close one. Closest yet. MY friend ran past it, stirred it up and there it was right in front of me. Ran right over it. Got home jumped on the scale....,.hmmm been around 156 lbs last night checked in at 159 ???? Well I do know I'm better off for it.

Anyone elses weight range 4 lbs day to day?
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Mar 26, 2012 - 10:50am PT
^^^
Sounds like a cool app. What's it called?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2012 - 10:52am PT
You beat me to it, yeah what app?


Edit: Woot Tim
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Mar 26, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
The app is Seconds Pro. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seconds-pro-interval-timer/id363978811?mt=8

I love the fact that the music changes with the interval, you can set a warmup and cooldown and the color on the phone and playlist for each can be set.
John Mac

Trad climber
Littleton, CO
Mar 26, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
Did hill climbing intervals on my 2 x 10 yesterday. Almost puked! First race of the season less than 6 weeks away so it's time to be hurting...
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 26, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
Anyone elses weight range 4 lbs day to day?

I'll drop was many as 6-7 pounds of water sometimes, but the most "real" weight change I recall seeing is 2 lbs.

We've bumped into 4 rattlers in the last few weeks, an adult, and 3 babies (1 dead). The big one got my heart racing.

EDIT:
As I thought about it, it must always be the water. It takes an excess or decrease of 3500 calories outside of basal metabolism to gain or lose one pound. That's either a tremendous amount of eating or exercise for 2, 3 or 4 pounds in a day.



rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Mar 26, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
I walked to the climbing gym and did crappy laps on easy routes for 1/2 hour until I was exhausted. Man oh man did I let myself get out of shape these last few years.

It wasn't even climbing exercise. This was purely aerobic since my heart had more of a workout than any other part of me.

Dave
Fletcher

Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
Mar 26, 2012 - 05:27pm PT
Gee, I gotta get checked in on this thread, great idea. Jaybro, 75 miles in one week? I'd be doing great if I could log that in a month! Back in my marathon running days, I'd get that easy, but that was 30+ years ago. ;-)

Does having a 3, 6 and 8 year old and taking care of them pretty much full time count as an aerobic workout? No need to answer, rhetorical question.

Eric
Fletcher

Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
Mar 26, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
Anyone elses weight range 4 lbs day to day?

Yup, I've seen that for meself, but it's usually in the 2 lb. range. Most interesting, is that I weigh myself before and after a shower in the morning. 98% of the time I lose a half to a whole pound on the after weigh. This has been going on for years and with different scales. Can't explain and am not complaining. And no, to the peanut gallery, even if I could produce them in necessary quantities, none of the standard bodily fluids are involved. Har har!

Eric
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Mar 26, 2012 - 06:32pm PT
New phase of weight training - and my glutes are screaming. This is making the runs more difficult. Nevertheless, got in 31 miles of running, 2 work-outs, and two days teaching skiing last week. One more day of ski instruction to go and longer daylight hours mean I can ski and run in the same day - soon, theoretically. Great work-out retrieving mittens that one client dropped on a trail.

I will take my randonee gear to Whistler in two weeks and spend one morning skinning up to wherever my hubby takes our geusts for breakfast. Looking forward to being a tad nervous on gnarlier terrain. Vacation is always a time when at least one big killer day can be planned.
Fletcher

Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
Mar 26, 2012 - 07:25pm PT
OK, y'all, you truly inspired me. Just went out and ran about 5K in my neighborhood. I'm at the base of the San Gabriels (SoCal) so the first mile or so climbs about 500 feet give or take.

I have a superb once a week yoga class that I never miss, but this is the year I'm going to be able to do more backcountry trips, so now's the time to get crackin'!

Eric
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 26, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
@wheeler-dealers:

If you start to max out on wheel repetitions, what fatigues? For me, it's triceps, which seems kinda strange.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 26, 2012 - 08:13pm PT
I did 175 wheels in 1 set 4 weeks back and the next set my right shoulder was hurting. It has been hurting for the first 10 or so reps every set since. Yesterday was my last set because I went back to work today. I was on a mission till I got a job to average 300+ a day. Oh yea, 30 miles+ a week on the Stairmaster during the same period. I just wanted to keep in shape and I kinda got a little carried away. Triceps got bigger.
Roger
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Mar 26, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
glad to see this thread pop back .. I need all the inspiration I can get. low impact to no impact days per work and whatever the else. getting serious ski days and minimal climbing gym .. whatever. what's the secret to motivation off the computer chair?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2012 - 10:02pm PT
Squeezed in a twenty five mile mtn bile ride today. It's supposed to rain for a week starting tomorrow. No dead guys.....
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Mar 26, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
I think this is like my 'sober' thread.......started doing 3 mile runs. Bumped to 4-5 and then 7,8 15 etc....... I'm no super athlete. Sometimes a good run partner helps. Everyone can do it. I used to show at the crag wanting to lead a 10a evry time years back, now it's 11a !!!! Viva aerobisizing!!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2012 - 12:28am PT
A serial obsession...
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Mar 28, 2012 - 01:10pm PT

Amazing how far you can run when there's plenty to look at.

Amen.

Does anybody do anything for flexibility?

@Fletcher - which yoga? I was informed by the class instructor that I needed it - and I have to agree.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
I have a loosely yoga based stretching routine that I do several
Mornings a week (usually) that has evolved from the routines found in 'The Complete Illustrated book of yoga" orange paperback edition. I've been working on this progression since the early 70's. One iteration of this routine is an (lustrated) article I wrote in Rock and Ice 15 (July/Aug 86), I'm still working the bugs out...
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 28, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
I do a stretching routine before and after my workout. That is a big thing for me. Only 2 days on the new job and they transferred a bunch of us to night shift.
So.... back in the gym. 5.2 miles on the Stairmaster this morning. Life is good,
Roger
salad

climber
Mar 28, 2012 - 09:15pm PT
40 mins on the stair climber. boring, but that thing makes you sweat.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 28, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
6 mile run
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2012 - 09:42pm PT
17 mile mtn bike ride

I just realized that on Map my run you can look at your recorded runs/rides in fly over view with google earth! I just watched an aerial stalker's view of my run up mt Diablo last week. Can't wait to use this trail running other places
salad

climber
Mar 31, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
15 miler today. wanted to do more but it just wasnt happening. blue sky reserve to the top of Woodson, back down below Lake Poway dam for water, then went back up to top Woodson again. got about half way said eff it, feel like crap and turned around.

face plant first 200 yards into the run. tore up the knee a bit, but not bad.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 31, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
Back to day shift, they'er killing me:-)
4.75 miles-Stairmaster
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 31, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
A little bike ride yesterday.

Well, at least the first half was aerobic.

Dean had one of the fancy GPS gizmos along

http://ridewithgps.com/trips/568261
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2012 - 09:25pm PT
15 mile bike ride yesterday
new shift in pull-up paradigm...
more soon gotta fly
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 31, 2012 - 09:36pm PT
Eating yams, drinking coconut water, stretching, psyching up for the Mammoth Marathon tomorrow, storm is pounding right now, but its supposed to be somewhat clear, and cold around race time. Last race of the winter for me, Monday I head to the Valley for a spring break/Easter family reunion and some climbing.

But tomorrow its all about skating, 42k, new course, 4 laps all above 9,000ft. Should be burly!

Peter

salad

climber
Mar 31, 2012 - 09:42pm PT
nice Peter...crush it!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2012 - 09:54pm PT
Side slide to glory Peter!
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 1, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
Awaiting the racing news, Peter. My cousin in Finland is a racer too.

For me last week good and bad. 625 Minutes -> good, bad -> knee flared up, so it was all on elliptical machine. Man am I bored.
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Apr 1, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
4.52 miles in 58 minutes on the stairmaster this morning. Ortho. said no wheels till shoulder heals so now I'm doing a circuit of 5 Ab machines every other day. That's probably better for Abs anyway, rather than just wheels alone. The wheels were really good for upper body, maybe the new job will pick up some of the slack.
salad

climber
Apr 1, 2012 - 08:26pm PT
my legs are trashed from yesterday. i can barely walk. not sure what is up, but the only thing that makes sense is i was beat up from a 40 min and 1 hour stairmaster session tues and wed. hadnt done that before.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Apr 1, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
7 km run yesterday, followed by helping my son move down three floors and up two. I figure 1500' vertical feet carrying stuff.

Will do a 24-27 hour caving trip on Friday in Kentucky.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2012 - 11:46pm PT
Sure was fun running the Boston marathon naked, Backwards today! And no one else on the course!
Okay, now that April fools is out of the way....


24 mile men bike ride, 82 mile week, 529 miles ytd
Pullups are up to date, 4278(?) today was day 92, so thats what I did, but my new obsession is that on strong days, i'm trying to do them in as few sets as possible. The last three days I've done them in 4 sets. Today I tried for three but only managed 87 in three and did a final set of 5. i've been doing this by spacing them out through out the day and in the last few days (except for today) doing them with shorter rests between the sets.

Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 2, 2012 - 09:25am PT
Aerobically worn out this morning...The marathon was burly, excellent conditions, 8" of fresh snow, sunny skies, cold temps, well groomed for the most part. 4 laps with a couple of good climbs both of which reached 9,900 feet in altitude. I finished 13th overall which is okay, but I was 5-9 minutes behind the guys I can usually hang with on the shorter races. More survival than racing... Need to change something up in my training to get better at these long ones. Some other great climbing friends from BITD raced as well, Rick Cashner did the 21k, Claude Fiddler did a good job on the 42, Jeff Schloss fast as always in 9th.

Ready to begin climbing season, off to the Valley this morning!

Peter
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 2, 2012 - 11:22am PT
21-15-9 reps

Burpee, pullup, knee raise,

pushup

Deadlight-3x3x3
245-265-275

Running 4 miles this afternoon at lunch!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 2, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
Peter, good job down there at Mammoth. That's Colorado style altitude and it can make results a bit unpredictable. That Schloss got 9th indicates it was a tough field.

We keep getting dumped on up this way. The last race of the year in the WA/BC area is this coming weekend at Whistler Olympic Park, the Whistler Woppet, a 30k on great trails at a decidedly lower altitude than your Mammoth adventure.

If the sun comes out we may have some good spring skiing...

Todd

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
Way to go Peter!
adrian korosec

climber
Apr 2, 2012 - 03:19pm PT
Sunday run: 31 miles, 6k climb/descent, 6:38
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 2, 2012 - 09:35pm PT
Swam 250 meters of butterfly without resting. Did not drown.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Apr 2, 2012 - 09:38pm PT
6 mile run
North

climber
Apr 2, 2012 - 10:47pm PT
Sonic,

Strong work, my friend. How goes Colorado living? Have you fired "The Sphinx" crack yet??
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 3, 2012 - 12:28am PT
Sunday run: 31 miles, 6k climb/descent, 6:38

Whooeee - I thought for a minute you did all that at a 6:38 pace! Good 4U!
thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Apr 3, 2012 - 09:40am PT
Did my usual 20 sets of fingertip chins on the hangboard but could only manage 6 reps per set vs 8 reps last week. Does anyone else see such dramatic swings in their strength/hangboard work from week to week? My cardio doesn't seem to suffer the same dramatic swings in performance. Could be the age kicking in.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 3, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
Rock and Ice Digital Editions. Kinda cool.

@jaybro they don't go back to #15 (looks like only back to #123)

http://www.rockandice.com/rock-and-ice-digital-editions
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2012 - 03:26pm PT
Hmmm, I think someone posted some of it here once....


If you think that's bad you should see #10, it's worse!

I can't seem to rotate those from
my phone on the road.....

Edit; ha ha! Told ya!

jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Apr 3, 2012 - 04:06pm PT
This morning on the way to work:

Light stretching, pushups and pull-ups to warm up

3 sets of:
2 x Weighted pull ups (70, 90, 90)
Turkish Get up, 1 each side (35, 45, 55 )
I round on campus board
100 Bicycles
5 Finger tip push ups
No rests.

3 sets of:
5 pull ups
10 wall balls
15 burpees
20 jump ropes
15 second rest after each set.

Finish up with 15 minutes on the elliptical with 75 pound backpack.

steve
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 3, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
North,

you talking about this crack? http://www.mountainproject.com/v/sphinx-crack/105752257

Definitely not yet. Maybe in a couple of years! Otherwise going well, got crossfit 3x week, gym climbing 3x week, running about 3x week, and getting outside about 2x a week. So staying really busy!

Hopefully getting up the diamond next month!
adrian korosec

climber
Tucson
Apr 3, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
2 hours, singles tennis in the AM

1 mile easy lap swim in pool (70 x 25 yards)
North

climber
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:35pm PT
Sonic,

Glad to hear it.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2012 - 09:20pm PT
Timid, is this it?

[Click to View YouTube Video]

I think they froze on young Cameraon diaz, Peter Tork and Angela Davis...
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 3, 2012 - 10:26pm PT
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 4, 2012 - 07:42pm PT
There's been some conversation on another thread about various training regimens (i.e. Crossfit), so it got me to looking around, especially at how much time one had to devote to training.

In Tabata's study, the researchers found that athletes who used the routine five days a week for six weeks improved their maximum aerobic capacity by 14% and improved their anaerobic capacity by 28%. A study of traditional aerobic training of running at 70% of aerobic capacity for 60 minutes for six weeks showed an improvement in aerobic capacity of 9.5% and no effect on anaerobic capacity.

So what is the Tabata routine?

In their research Tabata et al.(1996) showed that a 4 minute cardiovascular training routine improved fitness. The whole session lasts 14 minutes and is comprised of a 5 minute warm up, 4 minutes of intense exercise and a 5 minute cool down. The 4 minutes of intense exercise is comprised of 8 repeats of 20 seconds of maximum effort work of your selected exercise followed by a recovery of 10 seconds.

I didn't look at how they measured things (I believe speed skaters were the subjects in the study). This certainly appears to be a great way to increase your fitness level when combined with doing whatever else you are training for. I wouldn't want to attempt a long run, long bike ride, long XC ski doing only this type of training.

BTW, Apolo Ohno, the great speed skater ran a marathon recently and finished in 3:25:14, which is what I did back in 1980. I can't wait to get on the track with him. Gonna get me some Subway endorsements too.

Lance Armstrong did 2:46:43 in his second race (2007). "Last year, I had no idea what to expect with 26.2 miles, and I paid for it." (13 minutes faster). Obviously the aerobic gains from cycling and EPO transfer more effectively to running, than sprint speed skating training. (Feel free to point out the logical errors here).




EDIT: gave it a shot [5@5mph, 5X(:40 @12mph & :20 @6mph), 5@5.5mph]=15

the middle segment is hard. the :20 rest intervals don't seem to last very long.
Sure hope it works!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 11, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
Yesterday:
4 Rounds

6 “Shoot Through’s” (basically a pushup and then a dip back to back)
10 Front Squats 135lbs

6:52


Today:
AMRAP in 15 minutes: (as many rounds as possible)
10 Burpees
10 Lunges (each leg)
10 Push Press 75lbs

9 rounds plus 6 burpees

My legs are tired :)

Looking forward to a long mtn bike ride tomorrow!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 11, 2012 - 06:11pm PT
Had a bit of oral surgery last week, and that slowed me down. WHen you can't eat real food and aren't excited about mush, you just can't recover. My aerobic work-out day 2 was ....showering. Mistakenly thought I was on the upswing with a terrific training day - hiking in soft snow with a big load uphill on Saturday - but it was Wednesday before I felt human again. ANother week before the stitches come out. Still did the 5 mile trot around the waterfront, watching all the young, old, and fat dudes sail past me as I uncharacteristically just let them pass...

Can't wait to feel that surge of energy again. Soon. Inspire me people!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 11, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
Seamstress, rest and the ability to resist the urge for compulsive training are key to staying fit and fast!!!

Oh, and intervals...

Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 11, 2012 - 09:08pm PT
http://aaj.americanalpineclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Thau-Prism-Tamarack-RLsweb.jpg

Hopefully this helps!
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 11, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
1 hour of bouldering at the Sads and a game of Ultimate Frisbee.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
3300 miles on my bike (with 50 lbs of gear) since Jan 1 - and I am now 90% of the way across Mexico. My legs are like steel, my arms like wet noodles - and most disappointedly, I have not lost much weight. Maybe ten lbs over three months of intense exercise.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
500 yards of butterfly, non-stop. Still able to move.
salad

climber
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
ive been lazy, but i did ski wed, thurs, fri and sat.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
rockermike - you rock - f*ckin' A. Don't know your history, but I'd hav my thyroid checked when you get back.

Photos?

zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:37pm PT
Tabata does seem to work. I'm seeing what I think are valid results after 5 days. My benchmark is running up a hill in the middle of a 60 minute run. Will post some details later.

klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:46pm PT
So what is the Tabata

tabata is a variation on what was called interval training back in the seventies--

tabata + jack lalanne sort of = crossfit
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Apr 11, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
500 yards butterfly no stopping? Fast turns? Burly. I used to do the 200m fly and 400 IM, some pretty brutal events.

I see CrossFit workouts are popping up here... Yesterday was brutal.

Kelly
5 rounds for time of:
Run 400 meters
30 Box jumps 24/20"
30 Wall balls 20/14 lbs

I had a terrible workout, had to reduce weight from 20# to 14# on the wall balls and from 24" to 20", but making adjustments allowed me to manage a pace slightly above flailing. Took me over 30 minutes. Some days you rock it, other days you just kind of survive.

zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 12, 2012 - 11:46am PT
Tabata. I was impressed by the percentages in the study and the short duration of exercise, but skeptical. So much so that my routine is 24:00 rather than 15:00 with two loops through the interval section, which I increased to 5 X :40/:20.

There are tons of variations. Can't find a study which compares a bunch, but here's a couple samples.

From a cycling article:

It's been suggested that the best return on investment is multiple efforts at 100% VO2max, for a duration of between 3 and 5 minutes

Definition: minimal velocity associated with VO2max (vVO2max)

Routine: five repetitions run at 50% of the time limit at vVO2max, with recovery of the same duration at 60% vVO2max
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 12, 2012 - 11:48am PT
Rode 10 miles this morning before work in just west of Morrison on Lair o' the Bear open space.

Awesome way to start work
salad

climber
Apr 14, 2012 - 05:32pm PT
9 miles of pure hills, 2000 vert. def not feeling ready for R2R2R in two weeks..

:(
salad

climber
Apr 14, 2012 - 07:52pm PT
thanks sully... knees felt good today for a change. ill be soloing if i go.
mitchyboy

Trad climber
escondido california
Apr 14, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
Not cardio but did a circuit workout. Pushups/crunches/closegrip pusups/leg raises/pushups/stiff leged deadlifts/crunches/more pushups lol, and grip work. Was sweating more then in the gym.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Apr 15, 2012 - 02:52pm PT

Exercise Equipment, No gym

Legs, push ups and more with the X-iser.


No, it is not a sexual device but “PowerLung” They make three models: senior one is easy for them breathing better. This kid is for getting lungs and air exercise for staying under water for 4 minutes or more. Might take 6 months to get there but can and depends on age.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
Two trailruns for 7.5 miles today
540.5 for the ytd
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Apr 15, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
4.65 miles on the Stairmaster today but it took 1 hour and 11 minutes. Shoulder healed so back on wheels every morning. Job has gone to 60 hours so only 1 day for Aerobic workout. "Outage Trash" parks in lot #1 so at least we get that long uphill hike every night:-)
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 16, 2012 - 11:10am PT
Found my one rep max for weighted pullup... 120lbs! Plus my fatass body weight of 180.

Then did 4 rounds for time of:
40 squats
15 165lb deadlifts
400 m run

Knocked it out in 16:29

Planning for a 4 mile run at lunch today!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Apr 16, 2012 - 12:15pm PT

Paddling in the Gulf, averaging about 15 to 20 hours a week not really a lung breaker unless the swells are over six.

That Power Lung looks like a expensive kazoo.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 16, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
Very impressive pullup Sonic. I would be right with you until you started. I am a total bicep weakling.
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Apr 16, 2012 - 11:52pm PT
Gym Jones "those burpees suck"

10 x pull-ups

20 x kb swings (GJ recommends 52# I used my biggest 44#)

30 x 24" box jumps

50 x sit-ups

40 x pushups

60 x burpees

10 x pull-ups

time 17:20

beat my PR by 2:30!

garagegymtraining.com
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 17, 2012 - 08:27pm PT
After two weeks of intervals, got a 19% decrease in the elapsed time to run up 1/4 mile fairly steep hill in the middle of 1 hour run.


Dog 'no load' pushups.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Stephanie Bergner

Trad climber
Planet Send
Apr 17, 2012 - 10:09pm PT
Rode my bike to school along Chicago's fabulous lake path, 16 miles round trip!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 21, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
14 mile trail run this morning with about 1500 elevation gain



Edit***

Good Job J, the only way I can really run now is on the trail. Me knees get too sore on road. Two ACL's later Im trying to save my knees!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 25, 2012 - 10:42am PT
Did this in about 22 mins

400m Run

27 Weighted Sit Ups / 25lbs plate

400m Run

27 Push-Ups

400m Run

27 Toes-to-Bar

400m Run

27 Box Jumps

400m Run

27 Wall Balls

400m Run

27 Double Unders

400m Run
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 25, 2012 - 06:31pm PT
Hey Sonic, very impressive indeed. Way to go.

I looked up double-unders y'all. It's jump roping with two rotations for every jump. Here's a video. Way beyond my abilities.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s_XAq0Ubts&feature=related







bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Apr 25, 2012 - 06:45pm PT
Yesterday,
3x for time

50 kettle bell swings 44#
30 pull ups (no aid this time!)
15 push press 65#

26:50 (edited)

The day before was a really fun intermediate workout
8x
200m sprint
6 burpees
rest 30 seconds

jump rope just came in the mail, no more excuses for not doing double unders.

Today
15 Min AMRAP
15 hang squat clean thrusters 65# (yeah it's a real lift ;-)
30 double-unders (120 singles)

3+18
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Apr 25, 2012 - 11:38pm PT
Ghetto to lakes basin, and back.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 26, 2012 - 01:34am PT
Took an almost hiatus while skiing at Whistler. Skied mostly off-piste 7 days in a row and ran just 3 - 4 miles every other day. A day of continuing ed for skiing at Timberline the next day. Climbed St. Helens and ski descent - legs of lead on mushy snow - sufferfest....Does this mean I am getting old? Horrors!

Back to normal aerobic schedule this week. Lift skiing really doesn't constitute good cross training!!
Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Apr 26, 2012 - 10:18am PT
Gym Jones Workout

Airdyne bike 10min warm-up

Airdyne 30/30 (30sec hard-30sec easy) x 15min

"hard" was 15cal. in 30 sec. Easy was about 5cal in 30 sec.

www.garagegymtraining.com

Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 26, 2012 - 11:34am PT
Yosemite,

I still quite havent mastered the rhythm for a standard double under. What I've had to do was one double under, then a normal jump, then double under...repeat. So 2-1-2-1-2-1.

Yesterday I did a more heavy set as I had been doing a lot of cardio based workouts.

Yesterday:

5 rounds for time
5 "hang" Power Cleans Push and Jerk (start at knee, pull up into shoulder press, finish with the push and jerk.)
10 burpees

North was the one who got me interested in Crossfit. After belaying him on Grand Illusion and being less the half his age I knew I could change something to get stronger!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 26, 2012 - 11:43am PT
Todays workout should be fun...

Running 6 miles at lunch and then after work hitting the Gym with:

5 Rope Climbs

15 Ring Dips

30 KettleBell Snatch 24kg

3 Rope Climbs

15 Ring Dips

20 KettleBell Snatch 24kg

1 Rope Climb

15 Ring Dips

10 KettleBell Snatches 24kg
Tahoe climber

climber
Davis these days
Apr 26, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
10 pitches of 5.11 in Pipeworks Tues

1.5 hours of weight lifting on wed with focus on shoulders, chest, back and wrists

today rest (yoga)

Fri - sugarloaf climbing (the approach will likely max my HR!)

Sat - aiming for 20 pitches at the Leap
Sun - half day cruising at the Leap

fun week.

TC
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
Hoh man, I'm behind on recording again! But, I'll get caught up again. But this is shaping up to be a banner aerobic year! 10 half marathons ytd! As I said, details to follow ....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 26, 2012 - 07:26pm PT
8 miles in the hail today.

A light 5 for Friday, then a SAR drill all day Saturday.

Long run or a peak on Sunday? Decisions, decisions.
North

climber
Apr 26, 2012 - 08:58pm PT
Sonic,

You are a freaking beast!! Strong work. When you venture back this way, I have the route for you...after your new training regiment, you'll hike it.

Rest day for me today.

Tomorrow: 20 squat cleans, 15 pullups, 10 burpees, 15 squat cleans, 15 pullups, 10 burpees, 10 squat cleans, 15 pullups, 10 burpees, 5 squat cleans, 15 pullups, 10 burpees. Add weight to each round of squat cleans, so last round you may not get all 5 unbroken.

I'm sure that many here will believe this to be non-aerobic. Heh, heh.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 28, 2012 - 02:05pm PT
Did 4 miles in 27:30 yesterday. I'm trying to see if I can get back in the 6:00/mile arena, did 6 miles in 36:36 in 1978.

Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 29, 2012 - 09:53pm PT
North,
Will do! I'll be in town 11-13, leaving the afternoon of the 14 so I'm sure I'll have some time to go climb!

Ran 8 miles yesterday with about 2500 elevation gain.
salad

climber
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:29pm PT
did the grand canyon rim to rim to rim yesterday. pretty interesting adventure. last 4 miles were a real mental challenge.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2012 - 10:36pm PT
Oh yeah Salad, way to go!! I've been waited to see how that came out.

The most I've down there is down and up bright angel, which conked me ( my first long trail run, done on a whim!)

Today I ran another half marathon, same course as last Sunday. Shaved off half an hour though, so you can imagine how slow I'm going!
salad

climber
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:52pm PT
thanks jaybro! it went as good as it could have considering i was a weekend warrior when it came to training.

went down the South Kaibab, was hoping to run more of it but a bit to steep for my knees. got to the top of North Kaibab just at dawn, 7 hours 15 minutes. made decent time down the corridor to Phantom Ranch. thought I had a chance of coming in around 15:30 but had issues the last four miles up Bright Angel. total time was 16:50. had two wrong turns that cost me some time.

the most enjoyable time was South Kaibab to North Kaibab in the dark...didnt see anyone. coming down North Kaibab when it was light was spectacular.

low points were getting back to Phantom Ranch. GPS lost signal and i kept thinking it was around the corner when really it ended up being about 5 miles away. and of course leaving the 3 mile rest house going up Bright Angel, thinking it was the 1.5 mile rest house. was not happy getting to the 1.5 mile rest house when i thought i was finished.
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
May 1, 2012 - 02:26pm PT
Did the Baseline workout yesterday

500m Row
40 squats
30 situps
20 pushups
10 pullups

Beat my old time, new PR of 4:55 mins!!!!

took about 15 mins to get my heart-rate back down
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
May 3, 2012 - 09:23pm PT
Did ten sprints of butterfly today, 25 yards each

Two strokes per breath. Double dolphin kick.

Total yardage swimming today was 1,000, which isn't much.

I aint'good. I ain't fast. And I ain't pretty. But I did it. Not bad for being age 57. You young ones could blow my doors off.

Gotta get this thread up to 1,000. This is #901.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 3, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
for me, my knee is in and out, but I did almost 3 hours on Tues. (110 minutes AM and 60 minutes PM) despite weighing much more than I used to.


salad - that is so cool. congrats. it was a solo deal right? didja see any snakes?

This Running Times article gives alot of the detail.

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=21805

Maybe some others can't picture this either:


The South Kaibab Trail switchbacks lead to the canyon floor.

Couldn't find the year of this, but some folks fly down the trail:

Allyn Cureton’s 3:06:47 for the 21-mile single-crossing fastest known time had stood for 30 years is truly remarkable. Cureton, still living in nearby Williams, Ariz., was on hand this weekend as Flagstaff’s Jared Scott and Jason Wolfe raced from the North Rim to the South Rim with one goal – to break his FKT. Scott finished the 21-mile run in 3:06:10 to trim the standard by the slightest of margins. Wolfe, delayed by a mule train on the final ascent, was just behind in 3:13:45.

Dave Mackey checked his shoes for mule dung and looked back towards the Grand Canyon. There was no finish line, but a few fellow runners brought a well-deserved beer over. Mackey’s watch read 6:59:56 on that November 2007 afternoon, a new Fastest Known Time (FKT) for the epic Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim (R2R2R) run across the Grand Canyon and back.

salad

climber
May 5, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
thanks zbrown... yeah i went out there by myself. no snakes. foxes, elk, wild turkeys, owls, ringtails, scorpions, etc, but no snakes.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
May 5, 2012 - 09:17pm PT
I was able to get in 50 days of X-Country skiing. We had a tough winter. Biking's been good so far. I've been able to get out 3-4 time a weeks at my local single track trail- Usually I ride for an hour and a half and the heart beating pretty good
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 5, 2012 - 10:02pm PT
Three hours?

Did it in four days.

zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 6, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
Yesterday did 1 mile in 5:49 and then 10 miles slow and EZ. Knee is holding up well. I'm happy.

Looked up age group mile record for fun:

M 65 4:56.4 Derek Turnbull NZL 65 29.02.92
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
May 6, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
Good Job Salad!

How much actual running did you do?

Some friends of mine did it in around 18:30:00, and they said they hiked the whole thing, never ran at all . . .

Stephanie Bergner

Trad climber
Planet Send
May 6, 2012 - 04:38pm PT
15 miles on the bike right before the rain hit
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 6, 2012 - 04:56pm PT
^What did it hit? Sounds like a tort to me. ahahahahahaha!
Stephanie Bergner

Trad climber
Planet Send
May 6, 2012 - 09:02pm PT
Zbrown, I'm freaking dying over here. I am disenchanted with bankruptcy.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2012 - 09:11pm PT
Bankruptcy is way over rated.

Missed my weekly half trail marathon..... Pesky climbing.....
Stephanie Bergner

Trad climber
Planet Send
May 6, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
Jaybro: UUUGGGHHHH AAARRRGGGHHHH
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
May 7, 2012 - 11:31am PT
Did the XFit workout Diane this morning

21-15-9

225lb Dealift
Handstand Pushup

Very slow at 10:35

Then a 1000m cool down on the erg (Rowing machine)

There was a guy at the xfit regionals here in colorado this weekend who did this workout in 1:52!!!!!!!!!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
May 7, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
Jebus,

Is your pain where the upper front calve muscle meets the bone just below your knee? Very close to where your patellar tendon meets the shin, but just to the left?
Tibialis Anterior?

If so I've been having the same pain. My running coach said it could be a form on strain on that muscle from the pounding of running downhill. I've been icing religiously for the past couple of weeks and have noticed an improvement. I also have continued to run on it, with my longest runs being about 12 miles. I just have to warm up to it.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 8, 2012 - 12:22am PT
Nice jaunt down the canyon - I wanted to do that last month, but the conditions were too icy to move quickly. You inspire me to go back another time and get it done.

It was kind of aerobic for the team snow & avvy rescue exam. I take heart when I keep up with the young men 1/3 my age. Of course they were toting a litter while wearing a backpack and I merely wore a backpack. A nice cool down run afterwards along the Snoqualimie River.

On Sunday, got in 12 hilly miles and finished it stronger than last weekend. I was fine afterwards; no siesta required.

Worked with the trainer for an hour focusing on legs today, followed by a 5 mile run in brilliant sunshine.

Here I come refirgerator!!!
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
May 9, 2012 - 01:03pm PT
Latest research info...On fresh air today......
http://www.npr.org/2012/05/09/152336802/stand-up-walk-around-even-just-for-20-minutes

Federal health guidelines recommend 30 minutes of moderate exercise — such as walking or jogging — every single day. But new research shows that even regular exercisers may not be doing enough to counteract the health hazards of sitting down at a desk all day long.

"Sitting for long periods of time — when you don't stand up, don't move at all — tends to cause changes physiologically within your muscles," says Reynolds. "You stop breaking up fat in your blood stream, you start getting accumulations of fat ... in your liver, your heart and your brain. You get sleepy. You gain weight. You basically are much less healthy than if you're moving."

Reynolds recommends standing for two minutes every 20 minutes while desk-bound — even if you can't move around your office
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
May 9, 2012 - 01:55pm PT
3 Rounds (as many as possible in one minute, then move onto the next exercise)

1 minute of each:

Burpees
KB Swings 24/16kg
Sit Ups
Row (calories)
Squats
Rest

So should last 17 minutes total,b/c the last minute is rest
Count your total reps

I managed 342!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
May 9, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
I'll play.

I got into running in 2009 after blowing a string of big mountains. Everybody that I know, that does big peaks, is doing Ultras, 80 km XC ski races etc. Comes that time, when you've gotta reach deep and it's gotta be there. Mental only gets you so far.

I can't do an Ultra. May never. Managed to crawl through the finish of my first Full Marathon last year. This week, I'm running 10k (6.2) miles a day. A 10k race Saturday, 4 mile race Sunday and a Half marathon a week from Saturday.

It's been more fun than I expected. The 10k, will have the fastest 10k runners in the world. Pretty amazing to be part of it.

http://www.letsrun.com/2011/healthy-0505.php
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
May 10, 2012 - 06:20pm PT
I love the marathon/ 10 k distances!

Today I ran 3 miles right before the rain.
Stephanie Bergner

Trad climber
Planet Send
May 10, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
Ran about 3.5 miles today for my 8th day in a row of aerobic exercise. I feel so friggin' good. Running is so much harder than biking, ain't it?

Zbrown, you burly old beast. You'd kick my ass in a mile run.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 10, 2012 - 07:55pm PT
^Hi Steph. I am energized by the fact that I am apparently not going to require surgery on the "extruded fragment" of my meniscus as the ortho doctor said. I was on the elliptical for so long I thought I'd be there for ever.

I mentioned Goggins a while back up thread. Lest we all become complacent.

Every day, he’s up and running by 3 a.m. After a 20-mile run, he bikes 20 miles to work. He runs at lunch, if he can. Then it’s back home (on the bike, of course) to join his wife for weight training in the gym. He’s in bed no earlier than midnight most nights.

“Running is running,” he says. “It hurts, but that’s all it does. The most difficult part of the training is training your mind.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 10, 2012 - 07:58pm PT
Just got back from 8 miles in glorious sunshine. Jumped on the Wildwood trail and enjoyed the rhodies blooming. Found a lad lost on the trails. Had him follow me back to his car.

I entered two 1/2 marathons that are cmong up. Got to have a goal. Also have a couple of mountains coming up, and that trip to the Sierras. Many reasons to keep those lungs working hard.
salad

climber
May 11, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
Reeotch - i did not run much of it. south kaibab was steeeeeeep and my fat ass and old joints tried to move but it was tough. getting up to north kaibab from phantom ranch was mostly up hill. i ran a decent amount from north kaibab to phantom ranch.

i dunno.. i guess if it was a mellow downhill pitch i jogged it. some flats i jogged. slightest incline i walked. i didnt really train much for it... would like to shave 3 or 4 hours off.

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 11, 2012 - 10:36pm PT
Just 5 miles today. Tomorrow - hello Mr. Rock, but the reunion will be far too brief. Maybe a couple miles in the PM. I was planning on the Mother's Day frolic up St. Helens with my ski gear. It will have to be a very early start as the avvy conditions have prompted a rare springtime warning from the NWAC. Maybe I'll go climbing instead. Weekends are too short.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
May 11, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
Skate skiing the local ski area is fun. Up blue runs and down black runs while keeping the effort under control is a good aerobic session. Fortunately Baker is a small ski area...
Stephanie Bergner

Trad climber
Planet Send
May 12, 2012 - 07:23pm PT
10 miles on the rollerblades, yeah... ROLLERBLADES!!!!
salad

climber
May 12, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
rollerblades, dolphin shorts... so awesome!!!

haha jk dont mean disrespect, just got that 80's visual...
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 12, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
While doing a two loop 12-miler around Coronado today (can report no new mysterious deaths), I saw a skater. It looks kinda fun, but not nearly as fun looking as kite surfing.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 12, 2012 - 10:16pm PT
BTW - Micah True autopsy blames cardiomyopathy for his death. Go figure.
Seemingly very healthy guy, takes a tumble, stops to wash off, never gets going again.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-05-09/Micah-True-marathoner/54859400/1
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2012 - 09:24pm PT
Did a desert 14 miler dedicated to the memory of Micah True, today. Though he, would have been faster.
Started just before dawn. Nary a Tarahumara in sight, but about a million mtn bikers in the last hour of every persuasion. I'll post a photo/map link...
My longest run in current locale.
12th half marathon of '12.
611 miles (bike & foot) year to date.
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
May 18, 2012 - 07:26pm PT
Tabata Row

Rest 1 minute

Tabata Squat

Rest 1 minute

Tabata Pull-up

Rest 1 minute

Tabata Push-up

Rest 1 minute

Tabata Sit-up

  

The Tabata interval is 20 seconds of work followed by 10 seconds of rest for 8 intervals.

Tabata score is the least number of reps performed in any of the eight intervals. Unit for the row is "calories".


I did 48
9 on row, 16 squat, 6 pullup, 7 pushup, 10 situp
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
May 21, 2012 - 11:25pm PT
last Tuesday swam 2,000 yards of free non-stop.

last Thursday swam !,000 yards of butterfly non-stop.

Something I learned about weight training this last year is that it will reveal weak areas that I might not otherwise have been aware of.

And I think bicycling works my quads better than running, weight training or swimming.

I plan to climb in Yosemite on Friday. I'm ready! Good to go! Put me in coach! Yee Ha !!!!!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
May 30, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
Workout of the Day
“Baseline”
500m Row
40 Air Squats
30 Sit Ups
20 Push Ups
10 Pull Ups
and
“CrossFit Believe Competition Series”
8 Minute Running Clock:
3 Minutes - Establish 1 Rep Max - Clean & Jerk5 Minutes - As Many Reps As Possible - Ground-To-Overhead - (135#/95#)

I ended up getting a PR for Baseline which is always exciting and motivating. Last month April 30, 2011 my time for this workout was 4:55. Today I completed it in 4:15. My real goal is to get my time down under 3:45.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
May 30, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
Nix the skating, wife fell and fractured radius. On the bright side, cast technology has come a long way.

For a change-up, I can walk out the front door and run constantly uphill (reasonably steep) for one mile. Don't like the pounding coming down, but
3 loops give a pretty strenuous 6 miles.

DooDah.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
May 30, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
Swam Pensacola Bay solo, from GB to Sanders Beach, 3 miles in 1:28:32.

mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jun 6, 2012 - 01:16am PT
Biked crow peak 1500 ft of awesome single trak
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2012 - 01:25am PT
My rear dérailleur fell of at the end of a thirteen mile mb ride, right by the garage. Would have been a drag at best, earlier....

Goat, isn't blood in the water like that, in the shark infested ocean, to be avoided?
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
Jun 6, 2012 - 01:38am PT
Recently got a single speed mountain bike. So fun, just good clean pedaling. And no parts can fall off!

Tonight, three rounds of 12 clean and jerks (@70% of max) w/ 400m runs in between.
zBrown

Ice climber
mercenario de merced
Jun 9, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
Sebastion Coe ran 800m in 1:41.73 in 1981. Time stood till 1997 Wilson Kipketer 1:41.11 --> David Rudisha 1:41:01 2010. Basically all these guys are one-speeds (hauling ass).
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jun 9, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
Swam 1,000 yards of butterfly non-stop today. slow, very slow, but steady. Didn't touch bottom once.

Thinking about resuming my golf game. I haven't played a round for at least twelve years. Ready for another try at a different but familiar skill set.

I got that big book by Jack Nicklaus yesterday, the old one with all the colored drawings, in case I forgot how. It helped me a lot in the past.

blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jun 9, 2012 - 10:57pm PT
56 mile bike ride outside of Boulder--hot one today but at least not humid.
(My favorite golf book is "Ben Hogan's Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf." I pretty much suck at golf, but it's not Hogan's fault.)

zBrown

Ice climber
mercenario de merced
Jun 9, 2012 - 11:06pm PT
Swam 1,000 yards of butterfly non-stop today

I'm impressed. I think I did one length of the pool doing my butterfly imitation.

Interesting story, kinda fits here. I know a Seal (no longer on active duty) whose body is so wracked that the only exercise he can do is swimming. He often swims for eight hours straight. He's told me a bit of his story, never complains except about the shoddy medical treatment he received.





Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jun 9, 2012 - 11:47pm PT
I am pretty happy. One of my friends and I at times do a speed hike up Pyramid peak (from hwy 50) after doing couple of routes in Lovers Leap. My best times were 1 hour 45 and 1 hour 37mins. This time did 1 hour 21. I wonder if some day it would be possible to do in an hour...

Yesterday dayhiked Temple Crag for my 3rd route on the peak- venusian blind (did sun ribbon and dark star previously).
zBrown

Ice climber
mercenario de merced
Jun 10, 2012 - 09:18pm PT
^I can't tell how old you are, but I'd say yes you could bring it down to less than one hour. I'm not sure what the curve looks like exactly, however, I'm finding you do start slowing down.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jun 11, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
Big Aerobic Day yesterday, and a special father/son experience...we left the car at 6:30am, stood on top of East Buttress of Middle at 8:30am, did it in 3 pitches, simul-climbed to the base of the bolt ladder, slowed down to both free it, then simul-climbed to the top. Then made our way down the gulley, took a hard right and went up the Northeast Buttress of Higher, topping out at 3:30pm. We were pretty tired at the end of that, 24 pitches of super quality, and some gully mileage...Awesome Day!

Braden and Peter top of Higher...
nevahpopsoff

Boulder climber
the woods
Jun 19, 2012 - 08:27pm PT
i haven't been following this, but does anybody swing kettle bells around? my wife is into them and i started messing around with them and it kicks my ass. your thoughts?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
Swing small ones if you want to stay in the cardio range....
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jun 24, 2012 - 03:00am PT
Did the Tatanka 100 today 100 mile mountain bike ride.
salad

climber
Jun 24, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
san gorgonio yesterday, nice hike.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 24, 2012 - 01:13pm PT
Quick loop around Coleman Pinnacle near Baker on XC classic race skis. Tottering cornices helped with the fast striding in sections. Light gear placed a premium on old-school tele turns to steer through the glop...

... kinda damp for climbing, just staying busy.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2012 - 06:19pm PT
Keep plugging' away... wherever you find yourself with whatever works...

Don't have the final count but today's 13 miles, my 13 half M of the year put me over 700 miles for the year and today's first set put me over 5,000 pull-ups for the year.
Now if I could only manage to climb more....
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jun 25, 2012 - 07:08pm PT
did a first run in over 5 month or so. 4 miles. Knee was not happy, still. Need to see a doctor about it. I can run up/down hill, hike for a long time, but running on flats for over 4 miles is out of the question for now. : (
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jun 25, 2012 - 07:10pm PT
I got over 60 miles last week for the first time in a while. Saw Joan Benoit on TV (now 55), she's doing 70.

nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Jun 25, 2012 - 07:19pm PT
I've been getting some good outside aerobic time lately...

I did Snake Dike over the weekend... drove up late Friday night, hiked late in Little Yosemite with camping gear. Saturday finished the approach, waited in the conga line, explored the lip above Porcelain Wall and Bushido Gully, did the route after congestion eased, back to Little Yos Valley. Hiked down Sunday.

Weekend before that hiked 3 miles up the old Indian Road in Arroyo Seco, then spent all day coming down the river canyon with my kids. Mixture hiking, rock-hopping, swimming through very deep pools and walking through knee to waist-deep rapids, rock jumping, etc. with backpacks and 2 kids on inflatable tubes.

Weekend before that linked up Higher Cathedral Spire and Braille Book, car to car with plenty of daylight to spare (and much time waiting en route on Braille book for other parties).

I'm pretty ready for some long Tuolumne days now! And I'm about to go on 10 days of camping with kids in the high country to get some altitude conditioning. Yeehaw! Not much limit-pushing climbing, but lots of fun.
PWScottIV

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
Jun 25, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
This post is useless without pictures... Specifically the pictures of ME! Glad I found you on here. I'm guessing the pictures you took were the only good ones I'll have on myself on Snake Dike. Man, that was a LOOOONNNNGGG day. We got to the very top about 30min after sunset. Didn't get back to Camp Curry till 3am!

Here's a couple pictures of you. I can email the originals if you want.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Jun 25, 2012 - 08:04pm PT
I'm very relieved to hear from you Scott! We we're up on the summit for a while completely and remarkably alone (and she said YES!), and it was truly a magic time. We bailed before seeing you top out because it was cold, windy, and getting dark. We had some remorse after being down the cables because we considered you might waste a lot of time looking for the cables in the dark if you didn't know where they were. So I'm glad you made it. I'll post a thorough trip report this week, and find a way to get you higher resolution pics of you and Mario :)
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 25, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
So Snake counts as aerobic. Glad to see that.

It has been showering every weekend, and I am getting mossy. It isn;t doing my climbing any good, but aerobic consitioning has been unduly emphasized lately. !2 miles on Saturday. Sunday I got on a bike for the first time in years to keep husband and daughter company. We had great fun on a relatively easy ride. Running muscles and biing muscles are not the same.

Going home now and hope to run a few tonight. Yes, it looks like it is showering again.
PWScottIV

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
Jun 25, 2012 - 08:11pm PT
Awesome! I'm sorta glad we couldn't make it up quicker... It was probably better for you guys to have that time to yourselves... Even if it was cold and windy.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2012 - 08:15pm PT
(and she said YES!), and it was truly a magic time.

Somehow the real news seems to have been snuck in, or downplayed, or something.
Congrats! Champagne corks 'n stuff!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 24, 2012 - 08:23am PT
Lots of travel around town uphill with some slow downhill thrown in.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 25, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
Did he have a Facebook tan?
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Jul 27, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
Kayaked 8.2 miles yesterday and set a personal best for this distance at 4.6 MPH average speed. I have been paddling enough this season to get my cardio capacity up to the capacity of my muscles. Now my arms get tired whereas at the beginning of the season, I got out of breath doing this much paddling.

This also helps my climbing although I don't get to go climbing much these days. No one around to belay me and top rope solo is just not as easy as getting out in the boat.

Dave
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
31 mile bike ride today, 102 miles for the week, pullups on track more detailed report to come.

Sully, I know just what you mean on those carrot on a stick runs. Whatever it takes to motivate to get out there.

Saw the guy who looks like Hemingway and the blind lady yesterday.
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Jul 27, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
Hey Don - are you doing the ab wheel roller from standing or on your knees ?
steve
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jul 28, 2012 - 01:13am PT
are you doing the ab wheel roller from standing or on your knees ?

I've done 'em standing before. I would not recommend it. Ouch.

I saw that video before and I did 100 just so's I could say I did it. It's hard. I think it's more beneficial to do repeated sets of some multiple bewteen 10-25, like dThompson. Can prolly forego the do-rag also, but I've seen photos of some might cool guys wearing headbands (hint: McKinney thread).



jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Jul 29, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
Bouldering session for two hours in the gym, followed by:

10 sets of 10 reps each:

pull ups (alternating sets of pull ups and chin ups)
dips on a horizontal bar
hanging leg raises.

plus
about 15 handstands against a wall
about 20 front levers.

steve
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Jul 30, 2012 - 12:23am PT
Don and zBrown
This might pique your interest:

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/wheel.html

I worked the one arm variation from standing, but I haven't done it in a while. As you both expressed, need to be very careful about your back doing this type of thing.

steve
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Jul 31, 2012 - 01:54pm PT
I'm on a roll...
2 days in a row I ran non-stop from my house to Indian Rock and bouldered!

Yesterday my shirt was soaking wet from the chest up (not from the running yet, but by the end of the bouldering traverse).

Yes it's only ~2 miles, but I have to start somewhere (with running).
10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Jul 31, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
been averaging about eighty miles/week on the road bike(and get on the mtb occasionally also)since the first of the year.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 31, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
Took a rest day before and after the Red Dihedral. That was a long day, especially with my uber-cautiousness on scree.

Back in the thick air of SW Washington. Ran 8 miles, then grazed for an hour in my blueberry bushes. Looking forward to this afternoon's jaunt. Got to pile on the miles before my brother's visit. We will be logging a lot of time in the seated position for that visit. Hope to talk him into a small overnight camping trip with my 8 year old nephew. This time, I can carry all the gear up to the other June Lake near the other Vancouver.

Need a new goal to keep me on track.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Aug 2, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
Today is a pivotal day for me.
It is the day where my actions
Define who I am in this world.
My actions. My world. Today.

Will I sit on my couch,
empowering a sore lower back,
and hunt for Netflix oblivion
while the sun drifts to sleep?

Or will I knit a new habit,
bolster the fabric of my life,
from threads of momentary inspiration?
Today I will run again.



It might be the first time in my adult life, more than 20 years, since I last ran 3 times in the same week.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
Indian rock is calling you Scott! Get up get up get outa that door!

I rode ten miles today but passed, on pullups, as my hand hurts....
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2012 - 02:25pm PT
Another short ride today, hand feels better, may brave pull-ups....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 3, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
Nutjob - we say that it takes 2 months to form a habit, two months for your body to stop complaining and start liking your new habit. Hurray for your new start.

I took 3 whole days off on my vacation. I had a rest day before the journey on the Red Dihedral, didn't need to run (haha) after that very long day, and took the day after off.

Very happy to say that the fatigue from the 1/2 marathon and the long day have finally subsided. Yesterday I ran my 8 miles wanting to work it and not dreading the next hill.

Now that my brother is coming in for a visit with his family, it will be a challenge to make myself squeeze in some work in the early morning (I HATE running in the morning)or creatively finding ways to work it in. I love my family, and there are a million reasons why you can't work out every day. Feet don't fail me now!
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Aug 3, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
Well I ran to Indian Rock last night, bouldered until I couldn't see the edges, and half ran, half walked home. Habit formation in progress!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
Sounds like a good habit!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 4, 2012 - 11:50am PT
Enter into an intermediate crossfit comp to see where I sit. After first round I sit third. First workout was a 2k row. I PRed with a 6:51, or a 1:43 split. I was pretty happy. The two guys who beat me rowed a 6:31 and 6:50. Now it's off to max Deadlift which I've never been to terribly good at. My old max was 310, so we'll see what I get today!

Addition***
New Deadlift PR- 370 lbs
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2012 - 07:12pm PT
unseasonably cool temps made for a delightful 24 mile ride!
North

climber
Aug 4, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
Wade,

You BEAST!!!! That will definitely help your climbing as you well know. Great job.
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Aug 6, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Sunday was:

50 pull ups
50 chins
50 horizontal bar dips
50 push ups
100 hanging leg raises
10 front levers
50 pike push ups
10 handstands
50 pass the medicine ball from hands to feet

steve
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 6, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
UUGGHHH. Husband had kidney stones - lost 2 days to ER visit and associated tasks. Now to figure out how to squeeze in the work - maybe run between the stops on teh Gorge Waterfall Tour with the East COast rlatives. Stressing!!!!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 6, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
1000th Post! Way to go.

30 mile bike ride.

and crossfit still to come this evening.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 6, 2012 - 11:17pm PT
25.5 hour non-stop caving trip, Roppel Cave section of Mammoth Cave system. Take that, you young whippersnappers. The world's longest cave is longer still.

Rigged and descended a virgin 60' pit - entered a cool dome and reconnected to known passage, but leads abound everywhere. Limit of exploration is four or five miles from the nearest entrance.
Josh Higgins

Trad climber
San Diego
Aug 7, 2012 - 12:53am PT
Awesome thread! I just ran 10 miles on trail, then hit the climbing gym for a couple of hours today. It's time for me to start training for a full marathon in Oct, so I may start posting to this tread more often! Any motivation helps!

Josh
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 10, 2012 - 09:24am PT
We had a partner Workout this morning consisting of:

All done with 75lbs
100 back squats
100 box jumps (24in)
100 leg throw downs
100 push press

One person always rowing

17:15
4,250 meters

You could split the work between people, so my partner and I split it evenly. We each did 50 of each. We got beat by 4 seconds by a pair of girls... but their overall meter total was 3,600.

I think this workout would have been better if we added our overall average 500 meter split to our final time. It would have made up for those who pulled harder on the erg. Maybe I'm just to competitive when it comes to things like this...
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 10, 2012 - 07:53pm PT
Ran 6 out of the 7 days that I have been entertaining out-of-state visitors. Yes!! Pat on the back for good discipline. Bonus points for sneaking it in when they were engaged in various activities and didn't miss me. We visited the Portland Zoo and OMSI yesterday. I ran from the Zoo to the museum while my husband drove. We couldn't all fit in the car. Just need to get through a couple more days before logistics get a bit easier to control.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 12:41am PT
Woot seamstress!
Saving this place, Hudon style, so I have to post when I get home. Posting from OCH.

The short take is two weeks of hard at it ( for me) cycling, before the Vedauwoo roadtrip. Then three days in a row of the turtle rock loop Variations. Details and numbers to follow. Throw in some approaches and a team solo of TM chimney upon jumping out of the car at 8k'
After sitting in it two days from a start at sea level, and it rounded out the experience. Add Protein gorging on more sashimi than I've had in a year and it still gives no idea of the adventure of the last three weeks!

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 14, 2012 - 12:04pm PT
Now that the family is gone, the heat wave will be moving in. Last family day, took them to Timberline. I ran from the top of the Magic Mile down to the Huckleberry Inn in Government Camp and met them for huckleberry milkshakes. Excellent.

Ran 6 on the Portland waterfront yesterday. Today, it will be 8 miles up and down from the Zoo, then ballroom dancing with my rope and dance partner tonight. His footwork is always superb!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 15, 2012 - 08:53pm PT
Got a new PR on the erg (rowing machine) today for 6000 meters.
Here's my split breakdown: 22:46.3 overall
6k split- 1:53.8 32s/m (strokes per minute) overall average
1200- 1:57.2 30
2400- 1:55.2 30
3600- 1:53.9 32
4800- 1:53.3 34
6000- 1:49.5 36

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
10 mile bike ride.

I'll get back to that other post soon....
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Aug 15, 2012 - 11:12pm PT
Well, I ran a mile(s) in my shoes. My knee doesn't hurt much.

But, PTPP, what does a 25.5 caving trip entail?

dThompson, a suggestion - put the weights in a backpack so as not to overload your neck

One thing I've noticed as I became a bit of a slacker recently, the decline in (any type) of fitness is faster and the build-up is much slower as you get older. Not that you can't do it, it just seems to take longer.

jahill, what is the one-arm variation?



'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 15, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
After a full day's rest, we were back at it again in Roppel Cave - 35 hour push trip.

Anyway, back to the couch!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
Okay let's see, Taking a rest day after a 37 mile, Mtn/trail ride yesterday.

Details and thoughts.

I started this thread as a repository of Psych!. The idea being that overall aerobic training is arguably the most beneficial to climbers and humans at large. I know I find it motivational to hear of other peoples' enduro adventures; That Wasatch deal, Ridge link ups, The New record on the grand, various runs and races. Even stuff I never do, (muni riding!) leaves me inspired and motivated to get after my own game. Figured
Some comments on the site have implied/asserted that none of it (even climbing) really counts unless it's a approached strictly from a racer/competitive athlete standpoint. Racing is cool and I have done a lot of it, mostly for motivational purposes, but to claim that's the only game in town is excessively limiting, a parable of the cave sort of thing, if you will.

Where would Music be today if Miles (julliard trained, by the way) and 'Trane, had stuck to the score? We can't all be Trane, or Miles, or Bachar, or Alex, but we can all explore. Working beyond the established paradigm seems to have worked well for our own Dr Gill.

When I started running, way back before the turn of the century, I ran a lot of commercial 10k's, and eventually half full and ultra marathons. This always gave me motivation and focus for training. And Dozens of T-shirts!

I haven't run an organized event now in decades. $35 T-shirts are out of my budget and i've found other ways to find the motivation.

This thread is one of those ways, as is the Map my run software that I use. Here is yesterday's ride
http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/125815377
I can analyse this in more ways than I want to bother with; distance, trends with other workouts, trail profiles, progress, calories burned etc. I find the analytic yet casual approach works for me.


Details
so i've been keeping track of this all in a notebook as well, as much to remind my doddering mind or the adventures I've had and relive them as anything else.

Sometimes I'm training for specific things, generally climbing goals, and other times it's just to keep healthy and fit.

To that end I have tried to come up with the simplest workout that I could do automatically without taking a lot of time to figure out. So far, for this year, i've done the following; I started the one more pull-up a day thing on January first, working that until some time in April or so when I split for the desert to climb. At that time I had gotten up to over a hundred a day. Since I took rest days and played catch up, most days were more. I had similar plans for abs, a less digital version of increased distance for aerobic stuff. I make sure I do a half marathon level effort event at least once a month (actually over a dozen so far this year)

In june I returned to Cal and have been doing a routine like this; Fifty pullups a day and fifty miles a week. This has kind of gotten to be a minimum. whithin the pu framework I work L pull-ups, weight vest pull-ups, Max number (35 right now) and fewest set to 100 (currently four comfortably, and once this summer, three).
On one of Stevie Haston's training blogs he mentions that you can stay pretty fit with just pullups and running. who am I, not to give it a try?

But whatever works for an individual is what works best. I find it hard to run in the summer heat and substitute a lot of cycling, for instance.

Haven't been climbing enough this year, and it showed in Vedauwoo last week, but I'm working on that, as well.

The numbers to date;
1084 miles
7,933 Pullups

way too few pitches....

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2012 - 04:04pm PT
Photos!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
Aerobic high plains sartori....

Almost forgot. Last week in Vedauwoo.
The first day there we made camp, after two days in a car starting at 72' and ending @8k,and decided to solo something 'Easy'. I had a climb in mind, but wasn't sure about the mind of Ed so didn't say anything. Imagine my delight When he suggested "Thomas Magary Chimney"!
200+ feet of 1 to 3 foot wide claustraphobic 5.6(?) delight! Easy enough to solo and not have to push through "thoughts of death or worse", a reintriduction to the rock and technique of Vedauwoo, and arguably aerobic!
What a grunt! We Were Wheezing like the Geezers we are! a Hot day, (~80º) we were tucked into the bowels of the Earthborn spirit!.

Side trip halfway up, to the top
Of fall wall


After toppping out we scrambled to the summit of the formation gave our regards to Lucille, hiked down the back down the box canyon and off to camp ready to eat and collapse at a fashionable 7:30 or so...

But the fun continued the next morning when I ran the Turtle Rock trail. This is a mild but not flat, trail run of 2.5 -4 or more miles depending on how you do it. A Great intro to vedauwoo you get closeups of The Holdout the main area (aka Turtle Rock) and can see or include Reynolds hill and Valley Massiff. Due to bad timing on electronics charging mapping I was never able to map it. The battery died on my watch, so timing was out as well. My iPod shuffle bled out the first day, so though I ran more and a little farther every day, for the next three days, it was just me, the aspens, the Vistas, squirrels, birds o prey, and the rising sun.
active sherman granite framed meditaion at it's best!
One of my running buddies
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
Ritual?
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Aug 24, 2012 - 10:38pm PT
I've been running steady three or four time a week for three months now. Took a long break prior, but finally feel like I am back in the routine.

Runs average 5km to 10km. Today's was a morning 5km.

I am resting my elbow currently. On and off elbow pain, maybe I didn't give it enough rest previously.

yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 26, 2012 - 08:49pm PT
Fun report Jaybro!

I jogged a 10K yesterday and did some weight training.

I jogged a couple more miles this morning and swam 1,000 yards this afternoon.

Tried to watch the 49er's game but they weren't doing so well. Denver is looking better this year.
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
Aug 26, 2012 - 09:14pm PT
Been a rugged two weeks....well at least aerobically; spent a week on the Colorodo in the Grand Canyon, a company perk. Started out first three days 250 pushups a day and then decided it was vacation.

Got back to way too much work...two jobs, one very physical, one very sleep depriving. To compound it all I am VERY sensitive to poison ivy which I must have picked up swimming in a side canyon. SO...

My day today...wake up at 4:00am after crappy 4hours sleep. Work one job till 1:00, other till 2:30 then come home take some valerian (experimenting with it) and try to nap. Wake up go on a run feeling like a ZOMBIE because of said valerian whilst battling systemic poison ivy while I sweat......
Hardest 5 miler in a long time. I gave myself credit for just doing it. Here's to better days ahead and more sleep.....Checking out!
10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Aug 27, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
I did a road bike ride up at Lk. Arrowhead on Saturday. Thirty one miles, and thirty-five hundred feet of climbing.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Found a new, steep & demanding 4.5 mile trail run loop. I'll work on doing that faster and adding a little extra distance to it on my run days.

OT but related scored a new pair of inversion cuffs @ play it again sports for $15!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 27, 2012 - 06:35pm PT
Colleagues at work have all lined up to climb St. Helens on several dates over the next two weeks. Thus the long run was replaced by chaing after a group of colleagues who -----started much later than they said. So it turned into a far more aerobic climb than I anticipated. I thought that I missed them and raced up the hill. I found the group while I was descending as they were going up. Evidently the breakfast being served where you get your permit was far more appetizing than the early start that they planned. All was not in vain as I found a guided group having a very difficult day. So the rapid descent turned into a client assisted descent for a woman with altitude issues. Another member of the party then twisted his ankle. It's far more convenient to help them out right then than to risk coming back for a more serious situation later. There was no time left for a little run after helping that group down.

Sunday was rock climbing day, and we visited a remote Mt. Hood crag for a few pitches. A lovely dinner at Hood River was to be followed by a nice little run. Plan Interruptis again. Daughter went to the ER. So 3 of the last 4 weekends had long stints with hubby or child in the ER. All is OK -except my mileage total.

Today is a new day, and I got in a fabulous 6 by the waterfront in Portland. Tomorrow will be uphill to the Rose Garden or beyond. Keep me honest.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Aug 28, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Spent a few hours surfing part of Hurricane Issac yesterday.


It's a no go today tho, full on washing machine.

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Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 28, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
Get out during the eye - and hurdle any downed power lines.

Be safe.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Aug 28, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
No way seamstress, it's margarita time.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2012 - 03:08am PT
From yesterday's dawn patrol run


A counterbalance to the conditions in Goat's hood.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Aug 29, 2012 - 12:03pm PT
Looks nice and dry.
It's so wet down here I can see rust grow on the truck like Mitt's IRA.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 29, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
I love running under all kinds of conditions - -45° through the geyser basin at Yellowstone, in 110 ° heat in Vegas, during the eye of a hurricane, in blizzards, in thuderstorms, ...The first run for my running club was held on an evening with brewing thuderstorms. The weather was wet, wild, and we celebrated like children. When we finished, we were told that a tornado had grazed town, passing down my street, thankfully only destroying trees, not houses.

I won't run in fog at night in ice storms. A girl has to have some standards.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 31, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
Yesterday I swam 3,000 yards of freestyle non-stop. Not that impressive for a real swimmer. But, it was the farthest non-stop swim of my life, at age 58. It took me about one hour and seventeen minutes.

My lungs still feel pumped.

Heh, Jaybro, maybe I can keep up with you!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 31, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
Going to be a big mtn biking weekend.

Tomorrow hopefully getting in 30

Sunday-40 miles

Monday- 50 miles

Hopefully I have the legs for it!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 31, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
The office was dead today. I took a little longer run at lunch and rambled through more trails at Washington Park. Think I did about 9 miles.

Slid back into the desk and found - rescue on, helicopter rides, missed it by 45 minutes. Damn!!! I keep missing those helicopter rides. I was a little disturbed and now need another work-out.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2012 - 12:07am PT
Holy moly 5.8! I think the farthest I've swum was the mile swim, back in scouts. -you could def keep up with me, btw, I don't go anywhere very fast, except in
my car.

Snuck out ahead of sonic on my mtb, 25 miles yesterday (plus a five mile trailrun) and 32 miles (back on mtb) today. Was planning to sleep late tomorrow, but sounds like something's in the air.....

They sent a helicopter after you for a long lunch, seamstress?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2012 - 08:21pm PT
I wanted to make sure that this gets recorded here,
Yosemite 5.9 posted it here, http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1917238/Woman-in-her-70s-swims-1-000-miles-of-Butterfly

Peony Munger, 77 Died yesterday She swam a thousand miles of Butterfly in the last four (?) years, as a way to keep it together in the wake of her Pancreatic Cancer diagnosis. Way to go Peony!!!


http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/USA/31867.asp?q=Passages:-Peony-Munger,-77
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Sep 13, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
The NYCM is 8 weeks away.

It's a rest day, I don't feel good, but at least I slept well for a change. All out of sorts. 45 miles last week, incl a 20 miler (33km). Sunday,I did well at a 10 mile race in da Bronx then ran 15 miles the three days after and I'm shot. An 8 Saturday and an 18 miler (30km) Sunday coming up. Marathons are hard.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 18, 2012 - 09:43pm PT
what the hell is a workout?

Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Sep 19, 2012 - 09:58pm PT
Almost 3 weeks with no running now, just can't seem to wake up in the morning.

Last Saturday, I did manage a 6 hour hike to nowhere, but found a potential new cliff too. Should hold about 30 to 40 new sport climbing routes, a few bolted/gear routes too. (Not a bad day)
darkmagus

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Been hiking to the summit of Woodson a lot lately carrying a crash pad and backpack full o' water and other crap. Then I do as many climbs as I can fit in. I'm trying to do that about three times per week! Feeling pretty damn good about it!!
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Oct 5, 2012 - 10:43pm PT
After more than a month, I finally manged to convince myself to go out again. Two runs this week, most likely a a third tonight.

Still no climbing while the elbow heals.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
Man, have I gotten behind in my reportage!
2 Back to back 100 mile weeks in September, a 41 mile day on the three day week end, probably averaging around 70 miles/ week. Mostly bike but running also.
I'll add it up in the next few days.
This week I've done after work bike rides every day. Much of it scary for me, over my head mtn bike riding on slick rock, those rock stars make it look so effortless! I have to straighten a deraileur hanger tomorrow after my trail run.

Today I got in some bouldering, easy biking, and then some bold yet daring 5.5 & 5.6 solo action. Life is good!
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Oct 6, 2012 - 12:42am PT
Just read an interview with Dean Karnazes - thinking I'll go with good water

has sworn off junk food
now 50 years of age
just completed 9th (out of 10 starts) @ badwater
does pullups, pushups, dips, situps ala Navy Seals routine 6/day


still trying to decipher exogenous subclinical hyperthyrodism and T3 thyrotoxicosis

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Oct 7, 2012 - 12:56am PT
Sully, it's kind of hard to find you in any of the photos - help.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Oct 7, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
Rode the clunker bike 10 miles to the gym, climbed like cr#p, rode back. It's all good...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2012 - 09:58pm PT
Introduced a five yr old and a ten y.o. To the world of slickrock mtn biking. Short on distance, long on fun. Photos to follow.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Oct 7, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
Congrats, sullly. And great pix. Such a storied course.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2012 - 03:26pm PT
Rode the slickrock trail on a hardtail. Only twelve miles but I'm beat, or beat up. I am So knott a Hardman..
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Oct 10, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
eKat - we call that essential - don't deny yourself essential gear!!

Been focused on weekend climbing to the detriment of aerobic activity. However, I think I should get some points for dragging the heavy rack, all the draws, food and water while my husband carried just the rope. Managed to keep up on 1 hour approaches despite the heavier load and the shorter legs.

Diligently running every weekday. Delighted to be at racing weight. I volunteered at the Volcanic50 a couple of weeks ago. I didn't find out about it until it was already full and closed. I am putting it out there right now - I will do that ultra next year. It takes the Loowit around St. Helens. I've hiked it in a day many times. Running it AND having a couple of aid stations is very appealing. Could they possibly have the same perfect weather next year?

Volunteering had its challenges. The trail into aid station 2 is heavily used by mountain bikers. Yikes - had to paste myself on the side of the trail a few times to get out of the way. I took a lot of supplies up there, and then had to go out to a distressed participant. Managed to feed and water him, and then take him off the course. I was planning on a 10 mile day up and down from the aid station. Ended up with 20 miles carrying that load.

It is nice to be in decent shape - and not have to qualify it as "for my age" at the moment!!!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Oct 14, 2012 - 02:17am PT
Rode the slickrock trail on a hardtail

Are you nutz?

Ouch. Ouch. Ouch




Susan
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Oct 14, 2012 - 07:44am PT
Ran 18 miles yesterday. My body is freaking out.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2012 - 10:39am PT
Yesterday:
5 mile trail run
6 mile bike ride

Today:
Climbing & more of the same
10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Oct 14, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
30 mile road ride yesterday
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 14, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
signed up for a three day gym tour
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
Must be a big gym!
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Oct 27, 2012 - 10:45pm PT
A dozen routes at the climbing gym followed by a 5KM evening run.

Felt great.

Eman
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Oct 27, 2012 - 11:05pm PT
I run 10 miles (twice), chug-a-lug, make me wanna holler hi do ho
my ears still ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsNWlM3fWmI
10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Oct 28, 2012 - 01:31am PT
Twenty-three mile road ride this morning(no epo taken)
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 1, 2012 - 06:16pm PT
Yeah! I have earned enough points (calories burned according to my heart rate monitor) to join Jaybro et al at Moab Brewery tonight!

Hiking out of Negro Bill Canyon today:


Morning Glory Arch at the end of Negro Bill Canyon


Mtn. Biking in Arches


I've been playing hard and hopefully will not blow it all in one night of undisciplined eatin'and drinkin'

Susan

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 1, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
I was inspired by helping at the Volcanic 50K and want to do it next year. I've hiked that trail in a day several times, but running it with a tiny bit of support seems like great fun.

So I began adding some longer runs. The 14 miler this past weekend seemed to go well, but my body suddenly started complaining on Tuesday. Took a whole day off - darn!! Made my husband do some massage on that pesky leg and iced the knee several times. It seems happier now. I ran t tentaative flat miles yesterday and 8 hilly miles today. All seems well. Maybe I'll get away with just one day off early enough to prevent an actual big interruption.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 1, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
I've been playing hard and hopefully will not blow it all in one night of undisciplined eatin'and drinkin'

Susan

I think one of the benefits of playing hard is the undisciplined eatin'and drinkin' afterwards.
Eat, drink and be happy!
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Nov 2, 2012 - 12:19am PT
Last Saturday I joined a Dragonboat group. Holy crap, what a work out, it wss great. I'll be there next Saturday too, driving that huge canoe with a dragon on front and with a bunch of other masochists! Whoo hoo!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 2, 2012 - 12:45am PT
A few aerobic moves, moving fork to mouth, lifting beer to lips. Didn't blow it too badly....great dinner at the brewery with The Larry, Squeezo, Michelle, Jaybro, Ferretlegger and Art. Great climbing stories from young, old and in between. Back on the circuit tomorrow!


Susan
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Nov 4, 2012 - 05:45pm PT
I ran the Silver Creek Falls Trail Marathon, OR yesterday. Pretty friggin awesome the creek crossing at mile 9 was mid thigh; shet load of single track through old growth; and to finish it off ya run under 3 waterfalls. The course is actually closer to 27 miles and the first 2 hours it was raining: Here's the elevation chart:
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 4, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
good job krahmes. i hate wet shoes, but the waterfalls at the end are enough to get me thinkin' about it - i bet it wasn't real hot either

which one are you?

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Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2012 - 07:53pm PT
Nice, Krames!
A bunch of runs a d rides since I last poked in here. One 26 mile ride with a four mile ru in the middle.

Yesterday was a superb 10 or so mile mtn bike jaunt were we spied some boulders that inspired a bouldering sortie today! Perhaps we have found a new bouldering area! But keep that under your hat.....
I have been eating like crazy, btw.
After two breakfasts today we did the afore mentioned bouldering "sesh" then it was off to the rec center for weights and lap swimming. And a jump start :(

Tomorrow will include a trip to the car guys.....
micronut

Trad climber
Nov 5, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]

I did this thill I dry heaved yesterday. An hour of stairs will make your head spin for sure. I'm struggling to walk today.

My first El Cap route is this Spring and I want to get myself into what Hudon calls "Gator wrasslin shape" Maybe I'll keep an eye on this thread for motivation in the next six months.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 5, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
It was a very, very long time ago, but we used to hop up the stairs (actually the seats in a concrete amphitheatre) on one leg, run down and repeat on the other leg. You have to have a bit of a running start. Seems like we did it for about 20 minutes.


SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 5, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
An hour of stairs will make your head spin for sure

The first time Stair Master came out I was way younger than I am now, and probably in peak physical shape for age at that time. I got on that thing and ground away....in about 10 minutes I really thought I was going to get very friendly with an EMT.

I do try to "take the stairs" whenever I can, but I do find myself getting a weird kinda dizzy as I keep going up landing after landing. Not sure if it's the "round and round" the landings or the monotony of the stair edges creating a vertigo.

Susan

edit: one of the stair exercises I do with a womens'group is to do squats up a steep step of stairs leading up from a beach. We go at the stairs in a side way stance and do squats up the stairs while doing bent arms curls in front of our chest. "Run" down the steps and repeat for several other repeats.
micronut

Trad climber
Nov 5, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
Good call Donald. I'm gonna do some of those tonight. Great idea.
-Scott
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Nov 5, 2012 - 09:02pm PT
Rode the bike yesterday to the gym 10 miles..got on toprope for a while and sukd!
Rode the bike today 15 miles or so. Yoga is improving, at least....
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 7, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
View of Moab Valley at start of Flat Pass Mtn. bike trail.


Start of Flat Pass Mtn. bike trail...interesting rock formation. About a 4 hour ride.



Only a few more days in Moab before we hit the road again.



Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
Hey Susan, I stopped by your pad yesterday after work (~2) no one in sight.

No work today, I went for a bike ride drove to bar
M trailhead. 8-9 miles north of town. Got ready and.....
...... Broke the key off in the truck door while locking
But I had another one in my car in town.

Rode a mile and a half of rocky single track, then cut over to the bike trail back to town 8 miles downhill. Got the key and chugged bag up the hill,
-wheeze-
Did another mile and a half of technical mtn biking; a three mile mtn bike ride, with an 18 mile detour!
Then went to rec center, worked out, weights,100 pull-ups, abs, four laps of the pool.

I'm beat! 4th grade special ed tomorrow at 8!

Hmm, flat pass, I'm going to have to buy a mtn bike trail guide
micronut

Trad climber
Nov 8, 2012 - 12:32pm PT
Here's our am workout this mornin. Gittin strong!

Team of three. One climbs, the other tries to haul the load to the top before the climber tops out and gets lowered. Repeat 4x

Just a 25lb wieght is brutal, since theres a lot of friction up top from our gym anchors.

We are trying to work wall specific muscles. Its a nice little circuit.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 8, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
Somehow, I have had only one soggy run in the last two weeks, and I've been out every day. My feet are still mildly unhappy with the orthotics needing to seat in my new gortex running shoes. It generally takes a couple of weeks for them to stop complaining.

Team rejected for Hood to Coast next year:( So we can't "Run Like the Wind" two years in a row. Guess the Volcanic 50 will remain my inspiration and motivation for next year.
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Nov 8, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
Wait for it...







I went climbing!! yep, Sunday I put on the ole climbing shoes for the first time in (embarassingly) a few years.
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 8, 2012 - 05:02pm PT
If you need some motivation watch this link-

http://vimeo.com/36536826#


pretty freaky awesome!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 8, 2012 - 06:27pm PT
7.2 mile hike through Devils Garden, Arches National Park. Not a grueling hike, but pretty with some minimal rock scrambling.



love the fins


Ferretlegger


Winds were HIGH, as a weather front starts....man why didn't I bring my skis?


Thanks Sonic for the video! The full body armour makes my elbow pads and knee pads look so prissy...but then I don't mtn. bike trails like they do! That trail is very similar to what one finds in the Soquel Demonstration Forest in Santa Cruz.


Susan


Jay, sorry we missed you the other day, come on over Friday night, if you want. We are going to be BBQing, and creating a smorgosboard. Taking off Saturday morn, so we are cleaning out refrig and cupboards...booty!


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2012 - 07:54pm PT
I'll come for sure. Today after work I hiked with that friend you didn't get to meet, she says hi!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 8, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
See ya Jay...feel free to bring friends, very casual as usual.


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2012 - 08:53pm PT
Will do!
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 11, 2012 - 12:07pm PT
I run 4 miles ( @10:00AM, Noon, 5:00PM ) - so in Ryan miles somewhere right around 22.


LabRat314

Ice climber
Squamish
Nov 12, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
Ran 10km today :)
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 16, 2012 - 07:51pm PT
Trying to keep up my post desert-trip-kick-in-the-pants workout regime.

Tuesday, Wednesday, Gym for 90 minutes of mainly upper body to rebuild shoulder strength from surgery last year.
Tues, Wed. 90 minute run, jog ( focus on keeping heart rate below 140)....hard to do, damn aging
Thurs. 14 mile MTB on an easy single track along the cliffs north of Santa Cruz.
Thurs night relegated to watching Sullly and Ferretlegger at climbing gym because my stitches and head started to ache and sting. Boo hoo, poor me.
Trying to keep it up with out an injury....trying...really hard.

Susan
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Nov 16, 2012 - 08:05pm PT
I am down here in Campeche Mexico, rigging for Bandaloop, we are about to perform on a 400 year old Cathedral. As it is the crucial month before nordic racing, I brought my roller skiing gear with me. Happily the Marecon, a 5k paved bike path along the ocean has been perfect and I have been training hard...yes I get weird looks, not the kind of thing seen before in these parts I am sure. Yesterday I clipped my carbon pale with my wheel and broke it. Just finished my first time fiberglass repair, and I think it will hold for another session tomorrow. I will try to get a photo of skating like a maniac, beneath the palm trees, next to the gulf of Mexico...Loving Mexico, but its dumping at Donner now...eager to hit the tracks! Bring on Winter!

Peter

high speed joyful aerobics to come soon...
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 16, 2012 - 09:38pm PT
Knocked 6 minutes off my old time swimming 3 miles across Pensacola Bay, although I had the outgoing tide to help. Starting to miss the mountains and trying to get amped up for xc skiing this season, waiting for the big storm dump before heading back west.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 09:51pm PT
12 mile mtb Ride (Bar M).Weights & swimming.

Climbing tomorrow.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 23, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
10k Turkey Trot. Didn't win the turkey. ...but paid it forward for my dinner.


Susan
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 23, 2012 - 05:16pm PT
8 miles yesterday while the bird was cooking. Need to get out today and run between the raindrops. Good weather is coming Sunday, I hope. Then I'll really compensate for the indulgences of the holiday.
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 23, 2012 - 05:19pm PT
Seven mile mountain bike ride
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 23, 2012 - 05:23pm PT
Somewhere between 14 and 16 mi on the bike today.

Up over Santa Fe dam and back by the shop.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 06:36pm PT
Cool one this week!
Today I started running (in five fingers) at the hidden valley trailhead south of moab. Up 1200'(?) and over a few miles where it joins the Moab rim trail up and down for a few miles, then a plunge similar to the initial climb, taking me down to the trailhead @ Kane creek, where I had stashed a mtn bike. Two miles on pavement and I joined the pipe dream mtb trail back to my car. 13.3 miles total, About half running and half on bike, some of which was technical enough for a low speed wipe out; my right boy-tit hurts! Stops to eat and take pictures 2.5 hrs & change.
Good day! I wonder if Larry still has some leftovers from yesterday...

I did a similar event like this last Dcember,0nly all on foot, and with an added five miles complete with highball death potential, because I got lost . So I guess this is almost an annual event. It also marks 12 continuos months of at least monthly adventures of this level and duration, including almost twenty half marathons, 30+ and 40+ mile bike rides etc. I'll have to devise a more ambitious monthly aerobic goal for 2013!

http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/206842835

Probably drank about a litter agua & diluted Gatorade . Feel a little dry now actually.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 23, 2012 - 06:43pm PT
Good job Bro Jay. How much water do you {carry, consume}?

Today we did 8.46, mostly fireroads, I drank 34 oz. (up from 17, straight water no additives) and felt very markedly better. Still I lost 4 lbs. water weight.

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 23, 2012 - 06:58pm PT
Jay....you'll be ready for he Moab trail marathon next year...I think it follows some of the same area you covered. I'm lusting on the half but I don't think this ole bod can really get whipped in shape for it. Never hurts to dream.....

http://moabtrailmarathon.com/


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 07:04pm PT
I might just plan for that Susan. Lets do it. If I can do it so can you!
Edit: what a cool looking course, I'm in! We have a whole year to train! A funny thing, my friends and I ate @ Milt's after our Moab brand mtn bike ride and it was the same day as the trail marathon, man those trailrunners are a hungry bunch!

Z, I carried a1.5 litter camelback and had a bike bottle of 50/ 50 water Gatorade waiting for me on the bike . The high today was only 57° and I was largely in shade.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 24, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
Yep Jay, it's a doer if ever I could. We had a friend do the full marathon. She was staying in the same place as us but had to leave before you got a chance to meet her. She's 50 and in phenomenal shape....had just done a road marathon 3 weeks prior. Said the Moab Trail marathon was the best one ever. After mile 14 she said it was mainly an obstacle course and she said it was fun...but really grueling. She did say a lot of sand running, which I despise in both biking and running but you're probably getting used to it.
I really want to shoot for the half. I've a long ways to go...but heck...I'll shoot for it and if it doesn't work out I can do the 5k.
Ok. Talked myself into it!
Susan
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Nov 24, 2012 - 01:10pm PT

The Aerobic workout check-in thread!


...what? oh...keep up the good work ....
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2012 - 04:43pm PT
Those fifty year old kids are something. Aren't they?
So that's the plan for next year Susan, at least the half. Assuming I'm still in the area or can travel back. It would be my forty ninth marathon. Maybe I should do an easier one first and have it be my fiftieth. It would be a really cool fiftieth.

Okay one more check in; today's run was the portal / poison spider trail with a little extra of the golden spike thrown in because I'm a klutz. Should have been 12.9 miles ended up being a hair over 14. On to the rec center to colapse in the pool & shower.

Edit; and now off to the brewery!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
It would be my forty ninth marathon

Sheeeeet Jay, I'm barely in the double digits and they were all awhile ago! So, I got a new GPS watch/heart rate monitor (love my toys)...unfortunately, it's soooo damn honest....
today's run was a street run down through Capitola, 5.39 miles (and I always thought it closer to 6) and an average pace of 9:12, wow much slower than I thought...but I always stop for a bit in Capitola to watch the waves so I guess it takes that into consideration.

Yep, that Moab TRail Marathon/Half seems like a really fun endeavor, or heart attack alley. We shall see!

I off to PA for a few days for my dad's 90th birthday. I probably won't be running, but if snow is good we ski all over town. Easier than driving. It'll be fun to use my GPS for that.


today's run was the portal / poison spider trail

Oh boy...that's a knarly piece of business. Watch those signs! They mean what they say.

Keep running, climbing, biking, LIVING LARGE!

Susan
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
I've been walking/running at least 3 miles a day for the last 3 days.

186 pounds now, trying to get to 155.







John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
my dad's 90th birthday.


Nothing like having good genes! My Parents hit their 65th wedding anniversary last week and we had a good time in Connecticut.

I'm not doing so great. I trained hard for the Marathon that wasn't (New York) a month ago and I think I should feel like Superman.

But I'm not. I ran 18 miles in 5 days and took today off. Kind of bumping along the bottom. Two months ago, I would've laid down the 18 on a Saturday in a little over 3 hours.
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 16, 2012 - 12:55pm PT
Setting forth my goals for 2013:

100 mile mtn bike race
50 mile trail run

Signed up and stoked for the Squamish 50, Squamish50.com if anyone wants to do an ultra! Spots went incredibly fast on the first signup. They ended up opening the spots for the 50k so more people could sign up for the 50 miler.

What are you goals for 2013?
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Dec 16, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
Moab trail marathon in October. Realistically, the trail half marathon.
Average of 12,000 vertical feet per day for each day I ski at the resorts.
Much more regularity with road and mountain biking

Stay healthy!

Susan
Sonic

Trad climber
Roaming the South, Merica
Dec 16, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
Bring alive the old WideWorkout Thread from WideFetish

http://widefetish.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=424.0
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Dec 16, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
Do about 15 races as usual.

Get my shorter race time down.

Do my first International Running Race, a couple of shorter Tris, about 3 Half Marathons, a long bike race.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
2013 will be the year of the invert!

Today I ran a 14 mile version of the slickrock trail. Hadn't run since thanksgiving, and felt it!
Also, yesterday I did a big workout in the canyonlands invert boulders. Routes, shuffles sit-ups etc. I think I'm feeling that as well. Though I did get called an old man yesterday. Okay off to the rec center weights, swimming, shower!

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Dec 26, 2012 - 09:36pm PT
New shoes...Brooks Trance...present from Ferretlegger....hoping to accumulate lotsa miles!
Yeah! I love new running shoes...wish they always felt that way


Susan
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:36am PT
My new endocrinologist took me off levothyroxine altogther (my thyroid has come back to life?).

I'm feeling more like I used to. We scratched out a 1/2 marathon (actually 13.6) the other day (my first in a while, Michele's first ever).

Will I become the second ever 70-year old to do a sub-three hour marathon? I'm not counting on it, but 2013 is gonna surpass 2012 4sure.

EDIT:
12/27/12
11:00AM - 10K
4:30PM - 10K
Until endocrinological homeostasis is attained breaking it up may be the way to go.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
Walked two miles and blistered in place.

Been keeping up on my invert's with weight vest though.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 29, 2012 - 07:21pm PT
Cool thread. Motivating.

15 mile run today in the Auburn State Recreation Area. 7 miles on wednesday. 12 last monday...

Training for long runs, and just starting to get the mileage back up after blowing out an ankle (sprain). Weathers perfect in the Canyons! A bunch of ultras scheduled through the end of June (WSER). Hoping for Waldo in Oregon in the fall.

Keep on keepin on...
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 29, 2012 - 07:21pm PT
I did not blister anything, but have a plantar wart that hurts alot. T3 thyrotoxicosis and associated effects are a much bigger concern to me.



Been keeping up on my invert's with weight vest though.

Photos to follow?


atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 29, 2012 - 09:19pm PT
Sully, you have to do a qualifying run to get into the lottery. 3500 names in the hat, 275 were pulled. I was 244th! Thanks for the congrats!
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
20 inverted sit ups with the anti gravity boots
20 wind shield wipers
20 front levers
4 hours of pulling on plastic.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:04am PT
The hills are getting smaller on the XC trails, fitness may be just around the corner...
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 3, 2013 - 01:14am PT
Yesterday, 3 mile Mtn bike ride, 600' of gain
Today, 10.5 mile Mtn bike ride, 1800' of gain (first 4.25 miles)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
Did a killer six mile trailrun Friday in new five bilalias or whatever they are called and if been doing fifty pull-ups, & invert sit-ups with a 20lb weight best since just before Christmas.

But today when it never got above 12° here in the desert all I managed was a six mile stroll..

So I tallied out the results of last year. it's going to take a while to figure out other categories. But I have numbers for overall miles and total pull-ups

1704.4 miles
7522 total pull-ups
-in 2012

So I guess I'm shooting for something in the range of 2000 miles and ten thousand pull-ups in '13.....
Though climbing will come first and dictate some of that.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jan 6, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
I completed about three years of regular weight training in my home gym, mostly isolation moves, in November. I had difficulty gaining mass.

So I joined a gym five weeks a go, getting seriously punished by a trainer twice a week, lifting barbells; doing deadlifts, power cleans, squat cleans, front and back squats, push presses (overhead) and various supportive exercises and stretches. Consuming some creatine and lots of protein. Working hard on pullups and pulldowns also.

I gained about eight pounds in the last five weeks. Some of that is probably water weight from the creatine. I am feeling much stronger and reached some new poundages today in the push press, power clean and squat clean. Lifting heavy weights is a lot more fun than I expected. There are a lot of techniques to learn that will take me thousands's of reps to get right. I did at least a couple of hundred of barbell exercises today. No way I could have done that a month ago.

Found a few more tips on the Crossfit website at

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html

Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jan 6, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
Skied a duathlon race today at Tahoe Donner, 5k classic then you pull into a pit stop, switch skis and poles and skate 5k. Did well, in spite of day 2 of a cold...8th overall. Some fast guys were not there, but some were...

Cool photo taken last week in skate race...Castle Peak in the background, this made it into the local paper.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 6, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
Fell off the wagon. Didn't run today. Rode a chairlift all day. A little anaerobic on the hyperventilating part in the trees.......But I did get in an unexpected 5 miles yesterday at the crack of dawn before getting on the plane.

I will use those running shoes a couple fo times while on this ski vacation!!!
sempervirens

climber
Jan 6, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
I've been classic striding a lot lately, 5-8 miles three or four times a week. I feel compelled to tell ya's that today I blew out my SR45 Salomon boot that came with a package I bought used from the Yosemite Mountaineering School, in 1987 for $35, including skis, bindings, boots and poles. Maybe I don't ski well enough to know better but those skis have been great. I'm gonna try to glue up the boot. A new cross country ski package is in my immediate future. Feel free to give suggestions if you're inclined, I'm looking for lightweight touring/track skis. Thanks for the inspiration on this thread.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Jan 6, 2013 - 10:12pm PT
saturday, 17 mile run from Drivers flat rd down to ruck a chucky and up past fords bar to peachstone on the middle fork of the american.

6 miles down and back to ruck a chucky today.

perfect temps and really cool down there.
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Jan 6, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
Bitchslapped my Xiums for 2:30 yesterday. Gotta get those puppies back in the hotbox.
weezy

climber
Jan 6, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
skinned about 350 vertical meters for some breakable crust through tight trees.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
anyone slackng off?

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 16, 2013 - 09:24am PT
Bill Rodgers, in 2009, at age 61 ran 4:06 @ Boston. That sub 3 hour @ 70 by Ed Whitlock is looking more and more remarkable.

My story is that I am one of the select few to go from hypo-thydoid to hyper-thyroid (don't ask how, I already tried that), so I am switching from levothyroxine to methimazole (neither banned for competition).


Still grinding the miles out (*slowly).
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Jan 16, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Wow, I get exhausted just reading what some of you guys are up to.

So one of my New Year's resolutions is simply to do something - anything! - physical ever day. To that end, I have gone running the last ten days in a row. I don't much like running, but I can do it, I'm lucky my ankle didn't get any more buggered. I haven't stepped on the scale, but I can feel my mid-section slimming down, and my speed picking up.

I figure if I can keep this up til spring, it'll put me in unusually decent shape for wall climbing.

Interestingly, I'm 53, but I still feel as though I'm at the top of my game. Not free climbing, of course, but just wall climbing and caving. Aren't you supposed to "slow down a bit" as you get older? Well, I am a lot more careful and don't do stupid things like go flying off of massive jumps on the ski hill, or other things where you could get hurt doing something stupid. But I don't feel as though there's nothing I still can't do, as long as I just keep on keepin' on. Been doing 24 to 35 hour non-stop caving trips all year, that has to help. A different kind of aerobics, that's for sure!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 16, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
I did get in two runs while at Sun Valley. The last day was below zero, so I opted for treadmill work after the plane ride. Ran 15 miles on Sunday. Monday was a rude awakening - back in the gym with the trainer, doing leg work on legs that skied hard for 6 days and had that 15 miler.

The work fitness challenge also started this week. Joined the group run yesterday, and the uphills were absurdly hard on those tired legs. However it was great fun chasing the 20's crowd. Managed to finish in front of the pack despite legs of lead on every hill. Thankfully they only run 4 miles. Never let on how much those legs hated to climb. Added a couple of SLOW miles after the group finished.

It is always easier to move faster when with other people. I just don't move with that same sense of urgency all by myself.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jan 16, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
Spent about six hours surfing this morning in overhead glassy conditions.
Currently eating hershey's kisses and drinking some cabernet sauvignon for 2nd lunch, burp.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Jan 16, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
It has been cold in Colorado and many other places. Kept running in the AM despite temps well below zero. Heck...I used to consider myself an alpinist so this should not be too tough. Suffered a bit the other day at -15. Note to self...temps below 0 = treadmill
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Took 3 runs down the mountain at the local ski resort at lunch time. Ski season is starting now that tourist season is on hold until the next holiday. This is now my daily workout.

Dave
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 17, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
Wonderful trail run in Land of Medicine Buddha, Santa Cruz mountains, 6.1 miles, first aerobic workout after spending a week in Pa taking care of elderly Dad. Weights and machines at gym tonight. At this age, laying off a week if like starting conditioning all over.
Hoping for an easy Mtn bike ride tomorrow along the cliffs.

Susan
salad

climber
Jan 17, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
i got off the couch last weekend and did an 18 mile hike from rancho sante fe up past lake hodges dam, across the foot bridge near interstate 15, into rancho bernardo and back to rancho sante fe. mostly trails except for the last 3 or 4 miles.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2013 - 01:35am PT
Eww! Mercy, Murcy!

Did a really cool short(3.5 mile) trail run at sand flats, above Moab yesterday. Started on the "hell and back 4wd trail ended on the slickrock; running, sliding, glissading, full on my low butt life!
Much fun!!
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jan 23, 2013 - 09:06pm PT
I watched an interesting video on weight training by Ironman, rented it from Netflix. It is twenty years old, but one of the best weight training videos I have seen. The approach was to exercise the mid-range of contraction for two sets, then the stretched range of the contraction with the reflexive bounce (to fire more cells)at the full stretch position for two sets, then the fully contracted range with a hold in the fully contracted position for 1 or 2 counts for 1 or 2 sets. I have started using it on a pullup machine for my biceps to improve my chinups.
I do mid-range pulls with a less assist to make it harder, then the stretch range with a little more assist to make it a little easier, then end with pulls at the top over the bar and holding it for a count.
It is a very efficient use of time and my biceps feel worked from one end to the other, better than trying to do a whole chinup with every rep. It allows me to concentrate on maximizing each one-third of the contraction separately. I especially like emphasizing the reflexive bounce without too much weight and the fully contracted hold to help me get my chin over the bar. It has accelerated my ability to do full chinups.

For quadraceps, the three exercises would be back or front squate, then sissie squats for the stretched sets, ending with leg extensions for the contracted sets. I haven't started on those yet as I am on a ten week crash course on barbell lifting.

The video offers a lot of different sets for the back, calves, core, etc.

Here's the Amazon link. http://www.amazon.com/Iron-Man-Magazine-Bodybuilding-Intermediate/dp/B000EHQU44/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358992965&sr=8-1&keywords=ironman+weight+training+video


If you watch it and try it, please let me know what you think.
weezy

climber
Jan 24, 2013 - 08:59am PT
skinned/bushwacked 2000' vertical feet up some peak by horse mtn.
thrashed back down over rocks with barely enough snow to ride on.
dry heaves back at the trailhead. my base,edges and hip flexors are worked!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jan 24, 2013 - 10:25am PT
I've got a 10K Saturday in 20 deg F ( -7 C). If I run like I did yesterday, I will put up a lifetime PR.
Course Marshall Sunday in Central Park. I can do that cuz I got climmin clothes.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
10k pr vibes sent yer way!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2013 - 08:18am PT
Keeping at it. Gym workout Friday, after the weights and pull-ups I swam twelve laps of the pool, working up to more.

Saturday I did some invert bouldering and then ran a 8.65 mile version f the squaw flat trail in he Needles district, Canyonlands. A little dicey in the Icy pass section, where a ranger told me someone slipped, fell, and subsequently died a few weeks ago!
Interesting ahead
Hmmm
Yikes!
Whew!

Sunday, more inverts and 3.4 mile version of the slickrock (CNP) trail
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:09am PT
wow nice trail. I like Utah in the winter.

My 10K didn't PR and the salt beat me up more than the snow. But I had my clothing for running in 16 degree (-12C) dialed. 2 l/s tech tees and a s/s tech tee top, MT Hardware rock climbing pants and light capilenes bottom. Light gloves and knit cap. Worked well. After I hit the wind at the top of the hill first time I was nicely warmed without being overheated. Wore a down/parka to from Brooklyn.

8 miles yesterday. Ski trip next week and a 5 K followed by an HM in March.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2013 - 08:16am PT
OT

Personnel best in pull-ups in a set today, 40!
okay so the last six or so weren't in the best form......
salad

climber
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:49am PT
managed a 20 miler last saturday. mostly walking very fast, but ran some. knee still bugging.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 14, 2013 - 05:02pm PT
A little dicey in the Icy pass section, where a ranger told me someone slipped, fell, and subsequently died a few weeks ago!

You be careful! Did he die from the fall or heart attack?

Getting ready for a Century in April the road bike has come off the trainer and onto the road. Wish I had my mountain bike gear cluster on this sucker, as well as the full suspension. A switch from "Runner to Biker" today. 40 miles (roundtrip) up highway one to Waddell Creek and back to Santa Cruz. I really really really miss my mtn. bike suspension.


A view on the way back...Santa Cruz is in the 60s, at least.

Susan
WyoRockMan

Trad climber
Flank of the Bighorns
Feb 14, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
Set a 10K personal record today. (57:40 fwiw)

For full disclosure it had to be a PR, since it was the first one I've ever done.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Woo hoo Susan and wyo! I think it broke fifty in Moab today, felt like it. Gotin an afterworl, 17 mile road bike ride, on a mtn bike, did a 21 mile one and my gym workout sun, so I'm sort if staying after it. I'm hoping to have some sort of run/bike/climb combo going each if the next four days.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Feb 14, 2013 - 08:43pm PT

Did 25 rounds of one heavy benchpress, one heavy power clean (floor to neck) and one heavy backsquat. Lifted a little over 10,000 pounds in thirty-seven minutes. My lower back was a litle stiff for two days, but otherwise, recovered well.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 14, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Nice 5.9.

Ran 5 miles before my weight work-out. Usually it is the other way around. Those raised back leg split squats with weight - huuuuurrrrrrt.

I am loving that my back is so much better than three weeks ago. Hate losing so much quality training.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 14, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Nice 10K - PR, PW and many steps forward all in one.
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Feb 14, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
One Nice 5 KM run this week, hoping for another this evening.

Having a hard time being consistent lately. One nice thing it that I am mixing the running with climbing gym sessions. Climb a couple hours, change my shoes and do a 5 to 10 KM run. Always in the evening.

I just have to remind myself that the hardest part of training/working out is getting started.

Cheers
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:43am PT
Here in Asiago Italy for the Masters World Cup - XC racing at its finest! 1200 athletes from 30yrs old to 90...from 20 countries. We race in 5 year age groups, my goal for years has been to race in Europe when I turned 50, so here I am, psyching up for a 30k Saturday, 10k Monday, possible relay spot Wednesday, and a 45k Thursday. Asiago is on the "Altopiano" a rolling open plain, in the foothills to the Dolomites. Skied the 15k loop yesterday, beautiful terrain, good climbs, sweeping downhill turns, gorgeous views. There are some really strong looking Euro's skiing around, and hanging in the coffee shops...Hoping some good months of aerobic workouts will pay off...Wish me luck!

Peter
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 15, 2013 - 01:04am PT
Peter, rip it up. Have fun skiing with Kent and Reynolds and Tiernan if they are there. Don't let any of those dopesters mess with ya. Drop shoulder and push through! Racing with the Euros is a full contact sport, play by local rules.

Cheers,

Todd
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Having fun with my GPS watch. Morning run (5 miles) down through Capitola and back to a friend's house.
The weather is getting warm...way warm.


Susan
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Feb 15, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
First time "checking in". Had a moment there when I was like, ready to do a marathon or something. Then I went to the refrigerator and got a beer...and then another one. And then the feeling went away. Hopefully next I time I check in, I'll have something better to report.
sempervirens

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
http://www.mwc2013.com/en/

Maysho, must be an incredible experience, way to go!

I googled up the Master XC world cup. The home page (link above) shows a photo that has me confused. These guys are racing on flat terrain and are in a sort of a telemark position. What's going on here? Anybody? (sorry, I couldn't figure out how to embed the photo).

Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Those guys are finishing a race and are trying to scoot a foot across the line for the win...
sempervirens

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
Oh, thanks Todd. I nordic ski a lot. But I've never raced; I guess that's obvious.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
Nice, Peter! Very cool! Congratulations and good luck on the upcoming events. I looked and don't see the flatland tele skiers though.

Seven mile trailrun 'slick rock to hell' loop. Ten mile road bike ride. 5.9 chimney solo.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Feb 19, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Thanks Todd and Jay,

Major Aerobic Workout action in Italy!

2 races down...2 to go
From Yesterday 10k Skate: It was an honor to line up in the front row with this guy...Gianfranco Polvara, 5 time Olympian, with many great results. He finished in 24.17, I came in 3.29 later, with 24 guys between us. I was really excited off the line, hung with the leaders for 2k, but kind of paid for it as the next 13 guys passed me in a pack and I couldn't quite hang on...M5 is a heavy field, kudos to US skier Kent Murdoch, finishing 4th! Mr. Polvara was my hero for about 3 hours, but a Google search shows lots of linkage to doping scandals...Hoping he changed his ways and is skiing clean these days...I did get the thrill of a dramatic finish, holding off a concerted attack by 3 guys, made the stadium spectators scream, and I got them by 3 seconds...

Rest day today, got to go ski at Campomulo, one of the top nordic resorts in the world probably...stunningly beautiful, 150k of perfect grooming with big views...Relay race tomorrow...I get the scramble leg, classic skiing...
Final 45k marathon skate on Thursday...

Ciao,

Peter

http://www.mwc2013.com/en/
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 19, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Back from a ski week in Wyoming. Four days Downhill and one XC/Tele into Yellowstone up the Snake River Canyon.


Ran 1 mile on the Hotel Tread after the last ski run to make sure my Spring Race Schedule is safe. Ran 4 miles the day I got back and 5.5 yesterday. Have a major HM in less than 4 weeks.




Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
Thanks for the photo Peter. Now I truly don't get it!
Over the weekend I got in an 8 mile trailrun, a 15. And a 20 mile mtb bike ride. Yesterday I was in the gym for weights and swam 700meters ( a lot for me, here in the desert )did some climbing too....
nutjob

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Feb 19, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Jaybro, Maysho, you guys are animals!

I was a little excited yesterday to run on Venice beach for about 100-200 yards right after sunset, coupled with a 1 hour walk after dark amongst the street vendors closing shop. I made sure to eat lustily to counter whatever calories I may have burned.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 20, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
XC/Tele into Yellowstone up the Snake River Canyon
Thanks for the info about Yellowstone. We are headed up that way to do some back country skiing and camping. Will check out that trail.

Today's run on incredibly beautiful West Cliff in Santa Cruz. Exactly 5 miles out and back from the start of West Cliff to Natural Bridges and back...and flat to boot! The surfers were out, the waves were beautiful. Just a gorgeous morning.
Looking towards Steamer's Lane.
GPS watch upload:

Susan
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Feb 20, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
I've got about 50 days skiing in so far this winter. Probably about 600km so far. I'm not real fast but it still feels good to finish with a sweat on.
I figure we have another month of skiing here before the spring melt.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 20, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
Thanks for the info about Yellowstone. We are headed up that way to do some back country skiing and camping. Will check out that trail.

Park at Flagg Ranch. Must've been 3 feet of snow along the Canyon Rim, my pole went down all the way. Just convoys of snowmobiles on the Roads.

Parenthetically, I got a ride in Utah a few years ago on a snomobile, right to the Timpanagos TH. It was my first ride.

But Moose Flats Junction was MOBBED. Looked like serious athletes. XC and AT setups. Maybe that was the advertised marathon.

Ran 8.6 miles (14K) this aft for 23.4 miles in the 4 days I'm back. I'm running well. Not gonna renew my International UCI license and swimming lessons are on hold as well. Maybe no Tri for me this year. Focus on running. Still have time to get into NYCM with my guaranteed entry though I said I wouldn't.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
Hangdog, ultra, half marathon; ran about 11? miles on the slickrock/hell and back hybrid until my phone conked out with tracking software. Ran mile to the car, charged phone, ate a bonkbreaker, one of stich's chocolate gu, drank water & coffee and read a Harvey Pekar book for half an hour. When phone had a partial charge I ran up the sand flats road a couple miles and turned around. A fifteen mile mas o menos, mostly trail run, on a chilly overcast day; life is good!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 20, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
My gf wanted me to go for 20 minutes today... I only made it to 19:47 before I got off. Damn those machines are boring.
salad

climber
Feb 22, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
damn i got on the scale this morning and i have dropped 13 lbs in 3 or 4 weeks.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Feb 23, 2013 - 12:53am PT
Ran 32 minutes Wednesday and 34 minutes Thursday. Around 6km each time.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 23, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
I have lost weight by just posting at the Taco Stand. I swear!
salad

climber
Feb 23, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
just did 13 this morning, but bagged three peaks.. .woodson, iron, and some other one i dont the know the name of. was hungover and it was painfull.
sempervirens

climber
Feb 23, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
Forgot my skins and so I decided to hike in my tele boots. Luckily, snow was firm in the snow shoers' tracks (that sure seems like a dumb sport). I was able to stay on top and avoid the skin track. Always hate when people muck up the skin track.

Anyways I managed 800' vertical. Mostly breakable crust with shin-deep powder below. It's a good exercise and work to ski the breakable crust and crud.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 27, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
5.09 miles through the Galligator Trail in Bozeman. Plenty of snow on the ground, no problem getting hot, temp steady at about 29 degrees. Couldn't find a satellite image taken in winter...much prettier with snow.


Susan
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
Just got back from a lovely and DRY 6 miles along the Portland Waterfront. Did 8 miles up through Washington Park yesterday. Getting ready for the Fort Vancouver 15K on Sunday. I haven't raced in months, so am hyperventilating just thinking about the anaerobic hills coming up. I missed the 1/2 marathon that I signed up for in January due to that fall and back spasms.

Bad news - the Volcanic 50K sold out before I could register. So I signed up for a 15 mile trail run at Smith Rock State park. Now I dislike hiking up the Burma Road, and now I am going to run up the Burma Road and several miles beyond. I will suffer on the uphills, and I am sure that I will face plant on the downhills. Adding to the entertainment factor is that this race is scheduled for April - much earlier than the September race I originally wanted to do. Forget about carfeul preparation. Like Nike says - Just do it!

My husband will need a cliimbing partner that morning while I am getting thrashed on the trails. I think the race will take all morning with the vertical gain and distance combined - plus my ubercaution on downhill trails.

Keep inspiring me!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
I've run over 25 miles in these 3 days. Prolly running longer than I should for the goal 5K Sunday but the Half in 2.5 weeks is the one I need to focus on right now.

I'm running well now and may risk underperforming both races, just to see how much mileage I can handle this soon after a ski trip. I'd like 35 -40 miles this week and take Saturday off.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
I just had a pretty big week aerobically. It started a week ago yesterday, with the hangdog ultra half marathon. (15 mile run) and included 5.12 ow Thursday Saturday and Sunday. Friday and Sunday also contained gym workouts with kilometer swims. In addition I did a fifteen mile bike ride Sunday, and a forty two mile ride Monday, then topped it off with an 8 mile trailrun Tuesday. The last two days have just been work, eating and sleeping.

August will mark my fiftieth year of climbing. I'm trying to make it a big year starting now!
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Feb 28, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
started running again last week after a year long hiatus.

It's so miserable...and so good at the same time. So far, I'm not pushing myself hard enough to hurt anything (bad knees, bad back, bad brain..) in particular, but trying to go for longer than 20 min without dying.

This time around, my fourth time so far, managed to get past the 20 min mark without dying, which sure is nice. I mean, I even felt like I could for longer, so I did...

But damn, nothing beats me up as thoroughly and faster than running...whew, 20 min + and the body starts the endorphin factory...yeah! Bring those endorphins ON!!!

Cheers

LS
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Feb 28, 2013 - 10:50pm PT
Started running again last year after a 25 year break. Working the rust off has not been that bad and dropping some pounds has also improved my climbing. Did a quick 4 miles this evening. Liking the longer days. This year plan is to the run in local XC series, and finish up year with the Moab trail marathon. Everyones post has motivated me to go out and grid mileage. Thanks
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
Jebus I spent the winter at the ymca running on a treadmill. I love to run outdoors and hate treadmills but it worked really well. I have tried to train for marathons too, and get injured or crippled every time. I have the mental focus to do the marathon training programs, but they always lead to problems. This winter trapped in a gym, I decided to limit the mileage and run faster. Now my workout is exactly 30 minutes at 7:30 pace, 4 miles. I do this every other day to avoid injuries, and on off days I either ride a stationary bike or do nothing. Also mix in some weights and climbing wall but the running is what I always do, and the best of all exercise, IF you avoid injuries.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 9, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Last Sunday I lifted 20,000 pounds of barbell weights doing squat overhead snatches and stand ups, back squats, power cleans to the neck, dead lifts and strict overhead presses. Didn't time it. But less than 90 minutes. Trust me, it gets aerobic.

Yet I don't like kettlebells and I hope I never do another burbee.

Trying to lose weight by late May. Maybe then I can do a decent set of pullups.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 9, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
I went to my new gym today. Since I am such a specimen they agreed to let
me use the machine in the left hand window.

Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 9, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
50k at Snoqualmie tomorrow. The snow should be wicked hard and fast!!!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Mar 10, 2013 - 09:03am PT
Go Todd! Here at the Bjornloppet, Bear Valley...40th anniversary..
Ski like the wind!

Peter
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2013 - 09:33am PT
Hoh man, go you guys! Next year I'll have my skate skis here, that's all there is to it!

Got a hundred mile week the one before last; 35 running 72 biking.
This last week has been busier i other arenas of life so slower aerobically. I did get in two gym workouts with kilometer swims, and a 16 mile bike ride.... So I'm not going backward, too fast. ;)

Edit; bumped it up today, with an 11mile trail run (hidden valley -moab rim out and back) and a 4 mile bike ride
361 miles ytd, 324 this date last year
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 10, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Todd...I thought i saw you in the Free Heel in West last week..? It didn't sink in till i was a block away so i didn't say hi...Nice going in the RondyVous...RJ
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Mar 10, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
Good luck!

At times, it seems everything conspires to keep you from getting out there. I look at next week's schedule,and it looks equally daunting. I vow to squeeze the miles in, even if it is on the treadmill at night. Even though I took home some hardware at last week's race, the time was awful and the finish disappointing. Nothing will change if I don't get out.

Enough posting. Going out for 12. I don't care how long it takes or if the raindrops fall.


Postscript: Got it done. The power of announcing your goals...
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 10, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
50k at Snoqualmie tomorrow

thats sick!. I got an 18k day in today and thought I was bad. Wowsa!

Jay, you're burning up them miles! Animal!

Susan
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 10, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
RJ, that was me. I'm slowly starting to race a bit again am having a blast testing things like willpower, rational behavior, and refining technique. The project has been fun, mostly so because of the opportunity to see so many old friends and ski with good skiers in that somewhat focused way marathons demand. XC skiing and climbing are different sides of the same coin.

At West I finished with far too much in the tank. Snoqualmie, I got closer to the warning light but still have more... hmmm. Two more sufferfests on the calendar!

Cheers!
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Mar 10, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
80 KM tours of Normandy, sounds like fine fun and exercise to me.

Got a 5KM run this weekend followed by a dozen routes in the gym. (Worked all weekend.)
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 10, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Got layed-off Thursday, back in the gym Friday morning. I try to get in 3 hours every morning and I feel better every day. After 8 weeks off, it's almost like I never left. 45 minutes on the Stairmaster (500+ calories) was the big thing yesterday, abs, chest, and sholders the big thing today. Can't wait for tomorrow morning. I think I'm addicted :-)
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 10, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
Eastman...As i remember your technique was good to start with and doing back to back 50K's is pretty impressive for an AARP member...P.S. I saw the relic Aasay out touring the other day...Ha , Ha.....RJ
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:02am PT
RJ, Aasay never bothered with the sprints like 50Ks! He was a distance specialist...

... death marches with huge loads.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Mar 14, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Played with the "pink weights" in the gym again today. Then off for a five mile run on legs of rubber from the lunges, split jumps and other forms of torture the trainer inflicted. Onward!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 15, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
Conditions Deteriorating...send snow Oh well, did get in 18K vertical feet even without hiking up to the ridge. Conditions getting very yucky. So we are off to Yellowstone for b/c skiing and camping. Will be much more aerobic...much, much, I'm sure I'll be begging for a high speed quad.
My GPS tracks, but there was more snow, but if present conditions stay this way...well...it could look like this soon.


Susan
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Mar 15, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Why the HELL am I sweating?!

Yesterday it was too cold to go running (yes I'm a pitiful person with a horrible immune system) so I went for a walk. My walk includes a stretch of boulders that are exactly like a talus field so I boulder hopped for at least half a mile, as it's so much more interesting than a simple walk.

When I'm finished with the boulder hopping, I find I'm sweating! I'm just walking, why am I sweating? Doesn't make any sense as it's just a walk...

So why the hell did I manage to break a sweat?

Damn, this aerobic workout thing...hurts so good.

Cheers

LS
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Mar 15, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
Thanks for the reminder - time to run!!
10b4me

Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
Mar 15, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
14 road bike miles, and 600' of gain in :58:42
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Mar 15, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Gradually increasing the mileage 25 completed this week. Legs no longer feeling like dead stumps but that will change when I add interval training next month.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
Been kinda soggy around here, going to klistah up and log some Ks at Cypress while the predicted rains pour...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
It was a good week so far already, just under fifty miles, then today I came up with a new event I have no name for;
Took off on my bike with a pack containing certain, Necesary items. Harness, shoes, chalkbag tape, water, food,couple o big cams, minittrax,phone, goal zero solar unit... Then rode twenty miles, got off bike, walked and did two minitrax laps up a 5.12 offwidth. Rode back and added enough miles to get in an even 50.
Dimwit Duoathalon?!
Double D

climber
Mar 16, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
Super psyched today to climb laps on a favorite workout T.R. but it was 81 degrees and in the sun so alter my course of action to go run my favorite "short" trail near my home... all was good until I remembered that I had to pick up some groceries for dinner and ran into the local girl scout cookie sale... let's just say one of the bags was missing when I arrived home.

Tomorrow is looking better each minute.

Sluggnthecouch
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:28pm PT
Today I lifted 31,000 pounds of barbells in just under two hours.

I think that will do me for a few days.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
^seems to be about 15,000 an hour

i don't get it

i put 1000 lbs on the leg press machine and do static holds for 20 seconds

if i rested 40 seconds each time, that works out to 60,000 lbs per hour

i'm trying to understand what you are doing

anyway, be all that as it may, whacked out thyroid and all i'm getting in about 70 miles a week





yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 17, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
No way I can put 1,000 pounds on a leg press machine. Good for you. That's great.

I find a leg press machine is easier than doing squats. I suppose that's because of the back support on a leg press machine and not having to keep my balance. Anyway, all of my weight for this routine is with barbells. No machines. No dumbbells.

I use six exercises;
Bench press alternating with a snatch, which is lifting the bar off the floor into an overhead position, whle dropping down into a squat, then standing up from the squat with bar still overhead. The last part is the most challenging for me. So it is the lightest weight. 60 reps each, 5 at a time as heavy as I can handle for five good reps.

Back squats alternating with power cleans to the neck. 60 reps each, 5 at a time, as heavy as I can handle for five good reps.

Strict overhead press alternating with dead lift. about 30 reps each, 5 at a time, or to failure.

The dead lift would be an easy way to add a lot of pounds at the end, except that my lower back is a fatigued after the previous exercises.

A leg press machine is an easier way to push a lot of weight safely. I sometimes use it as a supporting exercise. But I could not press, nor could my joints handle 1,000 pounds.

I was fortunate to have a great barbell trainer during January and February at Santa Cruz Power Fitness. He was better than what you will see at the Crossfit website or what I have read in the books. There are a lot of clues to having an efficent and safe motion. I had to work on increasing my shoulder flexiblity a lot to cradle the overhead weights up and behind my head.

I have done weight training off an on for forty years. I have been concentrating on barbell lifts for only about three months, so I can not claim to be qualified to offer any advice on it. I am not very strong either. Luckily all my joints are working well. What a person can do with the right technique in three months is quite amazing and a lot of fun.

And yes it is aerobic!

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Mar 17, 2013 - 11:50pm PT
^i'm getting the picture now. i hate putting a bar across my shoulders with any amount of weight on it - it hurts. i used to bench press because i read an article that specified doing some % of body weight as being a good indicator of conditioning. i got to 315 when i weighed about 175, and my shoulders starting hurting. i don't bp at all anymore.

reminds me of a group who did amazing maxes of bp, dead lifts and squats (?). the only lifts they did. wore constrictive jackets and what have you. i'll try to look it up. the amount of weight involved was amazing.

i can't din it right now.



Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:10am PT
They always said that the king of cardio sports is the jump rope. If you ever get to see someone who is world class, it's amazing.

Single unders = beginning
Double unders = intermediate
Triple unders = advanced

Triples looks easy. They ain't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnJIzW90Hzw
Some Random Guy

climber
In a chair, drinkin' a beer, watchin' the show
Mar 24, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
my usual training for a while now has been hitting the gym every second day and doing about 1.5 hours of upper body weight lifting and core workout. I try to change it up as much as i can. dumbbells, barbells, fixed machines, cable machines, whatever i feel like at the time. then directly after i go outside and run about 10-12 miles. sometimes it's a relatively flat course with a few moderate hills or sometimes it's a circuit of intervals up and down steep hills here in san francisco. on the especially nice weather days (which there have been quite a few of lately on the coast) i drive up to marin and do a vigorous trail run.

last sunday i did my upper body gym workout then went for a 4.5 mile trail run along the coast. did it in both directions. had 500 feet of steep gain close to the start and the same (but down) at the end. so basically i did the 500 feet up at the beginning, 500 feet down half way through, then turned around and repeated it back the other way. after that i went out for a 2 hour surf session. needles to say it was a beautiful day on the coast.

add in some mountain biking, surfing and climbing to my usual gym workout/running routine and that comprises my aerobic training.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Mar 25, 2013 - 12:34am PT
I mile speed walk
1 1/2 mile run.
Tore quad muscle sprinting several weeks ago and just getting back to running.
I was expecting to be grossly out of aerobic shape but I was pleasantly surprised to find that I wasn't struggling and felt like I could run another couple miles.

Sonic

Trad climber
Roaming the South, Merica
Mar 25, 2013 - 09:48am PT
7.5 mile trail run down here in Florida in a downpour. After I came back I learned there was a potential tornado close by,... I hate this state
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Mar 31, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
2k of elevation on my splitboard. 1:20 to the top. 10 minutes back to the car.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 31, 2013 - 01:10pm PT
Good work Rick!
jabbas

Trad climber
phx AZ
Mar 31, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
Here Here to Steve Ilg and his mullet and don't forget Jane Fonda for a VHS pump.
Sonic

Trad climber
Roaming the South, Merica
Mar 31, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
7.5 mile trail run! Yosemite trip has been planned. Time to get back in crack shape
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Mar 31, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Thanks, Todd.

But nothing compared to others here, including you, and Susan (18k vertical!).

But the run down was fun, about a 1/2" of melted snow over a firm base, so it was easy to turn, and fast.

Here's some inspiration for this thread from the New York Times about Kilian Jornet: ski mountaineer, climber, and aerobic monster:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/magazine/creating-the-all-terrain-human.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Also an ST thread:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1942681&msg=2097833#msg2097833
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Mar 31, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
Did four 6-km runs in the last five days. That's about four miles each run. Nothing hurts ... well, not too much anyway. Best time was 30:59, not that I'm really hurrying.

So this is interesting. For my weight of 160 lb. - which won't seem to drop no matter how far I run and how little I eat and drink - and 30 minutes of activity:

An 8mph run for half an hour is four miles = 455 Calories burned

Now what if I walk the same four-mile course at half the speed?

A 4mph walk for an hour is the same four miles = 405 Calories burned

So clearly, for burning calories, it ain't really much about whether you're walking or running, it's far more about the distance that you do. That is quite surprising to me - I'd have thought a half-hour run would burn WAY more calories than a one-hour walk, but apparently knott.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 31, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
Pete....Keep lowering your 6K time and you will lose weight...Increase your 6K time and you will gain....
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 31, 2013 - 04:53pm PT
Rebuilt the drivetrain on the 80's vintage commuter Schwinn yesterday.

New Freewheel, Cassette, Chain, and rear bearings.

Now I'm not worried about breaking something if I stand on the pedals.

Went to an 11 tooth top gear too. That should be good for about 30mph @ 90 rpm on the flat.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
30 mile road bike, easy course, Monterey Bike Path. Getting ready for a race later this month. At my age racing means getting to the cut off points before they shut down. The upside of competing at my age is that my age bracket has fewer and fewer and fewer folks in it!


Susan
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:06pm PT
I haven't been doing so great since the Half. I ran 33 miles that week and have been flat since.

I think I will pull a Positive Split Saturday at the Scotland Run 10K. Either that or a PR. Depends if I can hold my Tempo Pace the entire distance.
salad

climber
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Did a thirty mile trail hike/jog yesterday.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 7, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
lifted 36,000 pounds of barbell weights yesterday. It took me just over three hours, a little longer than I had hoped for. Oh well, at least I finished. Went for a jog this morning. Surprisingly not very sore. I am not very strong.

Lost eighteen pounds of fat in last couple of months, from 182 to 164. Lots of hungry nights. Less weight to carry up a crack I figure, to make up for my weakness, I hope.

I need to climb Reed's Direct's second pitch in good style for once. That first move is very stretchy. Never been on a route that makes me unexpectedly pop off as much as this pitch. Kinda frustrating.

I read a quote something like, "What are you willing to give up to accomplish what you want?" Been keeping that in mind. I have been giving up a lot of food.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Apr 12, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
Best winter ever!
I knocked out over 1,000 kms of skiing. Totally stoked for next year!
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 13, 2013 - 10:14am PT
Twenty-five road bike miles yesterday. Going for a thirty miler in an hour
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 13, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
Just finished the culminating week of a great winter of aerobic nordic racing...I raced in the Supertour Finals and National Distance Championships 50k Classic. Five races in 8 days. 3.3k prologue skate, 15k Classic, 1.2k sprint, super burly hill climb up Sugar Bowl in howling East winds, and a 50k classic in grim conditions. This is the highest level of racing I have tried since racing the Nationals 1985-87, racing the top skiers in the US, including the US Ski Team, and top collegiate athletes. If I had known that the next oldest person would be Kris Freeman, 32, winner of two of the races...I probably would have skipped these. But they are open to anyone, and were right here on my home turf...So I went for it! Really great experience, and I didn't finish last until the 50k classic in mud and slush. I turned 50 this year and had high motivation to up my athletic game...sent the Star Walls Crack (13a) last autumn, had a really fun year ski racing, met a lot of very skilled master racers, and gathered a lot of good information on how to train. Psyched to train smart and hard this summer, and see how fast I can get!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 13, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
^^^^aw aw ahhhh. Speechless here...what an incredible accomplishment!

Good on you!

Susan
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 13, 2013 - 04:39pm PT
Good job Peter....Tough conditions for racing...
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 13, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
Peter, that 50K sounds like an ultimate in intense aerobic activity.

Good for you too Susan on your bike ride. I have driven to Monterey many times and can appreciate the distance.

A local swim team boy last Tuesday was instructed to swim across the pool underwater. When he reached the other side he decided to do a flip-turn. Then he passed out under water. He stopped breathing. The lifeguards and an off-duty nurse performed CPR. After several minutes he began breathing again and became conscious. He says he will swim again. Just a juxtaposition to the idea of aerobic exercise.



Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Apr 13, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
Wow Peter, incredible!

As one of the competitors said of Bob Beamon when he broke the long jump record by two feet in the 1968 Olympics:

"Compared to this...we are all as children."
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Apr 13, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
Way to go Peter!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 13, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
Peter, good work!

I ended my season last week in the slush at Whistler and began the off-season with watching the Yankees and my Os play at Yankee Stadium today. You were warmer skiing the 50 than we were today in the Bronx!

Again, good work!

Todd
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 11:49am PT
So I'm keeping up here, over fifty miles so far this week including a mile swim, and I got something in the works for today that will be worth divulging later...

But now a question for the crowd, y'all got a favorite iPad app for logging training info of all sorts? I use map my run et al for recording, keeping track, of my efforts,as far as cardio sh#t, but use a spiral notebook for the overall master including Weights, climbing etc, etc. this feels so twentieth century. Anyone used the map my whatever software for the purpose I am mentioning? Or have another one they like? Ideally something tha would run on ipad& iPhone would be ideal as the phone goes with me on most adventures this side of the pool....
salad

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
Just finished traversing Zion from the East Rim trail to West, out Lee Pass. Pretty brutal as I hardly trained.
perswig

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
Just started road-biking.
Am I gonna hear the car that kills me?

Dale
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Apr 27, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
Will it matter? I think you get used to cars going by. Supposedly. That's way they say, anyway. I'll only road bike very early on Sat or Sun, though.

I lifted 45,000 pounds of weights in the gym today. It took three hours and forty minutes. All barbells, no machines, none of those contraptions called kettle balls and no dumbbells. I avoid burpees. I am not very strong so I have to pace myself. I think I can finally do ten pull ups in a row now.

Going to Yosemite soon. Gotta concentrate on making climbing moves now. I hope I to slither up those cracks. Hopefully God will help me.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
500 feet of Wyde iad! 5.11 &12, included 7 miles of hiking details soon, watch for Tr!
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, Co
Apr 27, 2013 - 11:00pm PT
About 5000 ft vert gained for the week. Running in the columbia river gorge was awesome!
Lasti

Trad climber
Budapest
Apr 29, 2013 - 09:42am PT
As a constant lurker of this thread, I am always amazed at the great feats all of you perform regularly.

So I shall hijack the thread a little bit.

I have a question to those more competent and knowledgable in the ways of becoming an aerobic master.

To set the scene: my aerobic workout nowadays is trail running, usually in the vicinity of 90-120 minutes.

The question: How could I (or should I) lower my pulse? If I slap on a watch, I usually average around 180-185 bpm (including slower descents) and can easily peak at or above 200 bpm. Now I am young (31), so peak is OK, but the average seems high to me. Is it?

If I go lower, I have to basically walk a lot or just feel very slow. The high bpm doesn't bother me in terms of fatigue, pain etc., but it just seems excessive.

Any thoughts?

Apart from Yer gunna die.

Thanks,

Lasti
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, Co
Apr 29, 2013 - 10:00am PT
That average seems pretty high to me, but then again Im not medically trained so take what I say lightly.

Best way to decrease your beats is with a bigger lower state base. Go on runs where you dont hit over 150. It may be hard, actually very hard, but you can view these runs as active recovery almost. I had about 2 months worth of base like this before I really started pushing it.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 2, 2013 - 01:35am PT
Took about a five mile walk with my dog the other day . I tore my left quad sprinting a couple months ago and so I've been taking it easy on the legs. The long walk felt good . No problem.
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
May 4, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
Hitting my first trail half marathon tommorrow in Harriman NY. Hoping to run under 2:00 hours. Weather looks great!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
The force is with you! Fat Paul!
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
May 9, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
Ran 2:11 last week, and was able to climb hard at the gym afterwards! Very challeging course with rocks, rocks and more rocks. Very evident that I need to build my base mileage with some long runs. Thanks for the encouragement Jaybro.
WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Bighorns
May 15, 2013 - 11:11am PT
Last night I thought I'd try to stay in the mosh pit for an entire Primus show. Two full sets plus an encore. It was well beyond a 10k and pushing a half in terms of physical output.

Good stuff.
10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B Arizona
May 18, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
30 mile road ride this morning. Fast till the turnaround.
Almost got hit by a car
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 18, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
Yesterday:

2 mile run
20 bleacher hikes
2 mile walk

Today, so far:
Pec day

-dumbbell bench presses
-dumbbell bench flies
-barbell bench presses
-incline push-ups

Probably going for a long walk with dog
Maybe run.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
23 mile bike ride w/technical, mtn biking thrown into the middle

Nice work Sully my fastest marathon was. 3:20
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
May 18, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
Jaybro's always doing something like that. Sully that is very impressive marathon speed. Last winter I ran on a treadmill for 30 minutes, my basic speed is 7:30/mi and I was just trying to get comfortable at the 7:00 min pace. (for 4 mi) But that is really pushing it for me. Since the weather got nice I'm running outside, a 7 mile trail run 4 times a week, and I think I'm maintaining the 7:30 pace. A few years ago I would have been at the 9 or 10 min pace trying to run 15 miles, but I found that just injured me. I am still a little weak in the forearms but its bouldering season now too.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 19, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
^^^^. Yeah Ms Elite Runner....I never got the speed thing, just endurance...the b&w pic looks like one of those old classics where some guy looks like he's going to shove you off the course because women aren't supposed to be running marathons. And the guy next to you looks like the puke factor is kicking in.

Glad the knee is healing up.

Hope to catch up with you soon...

Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
Ha ha Susan! That's what I thought too. My first thought was what's her name in the Boston marathon!
weezy

climber
May 19, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
ten minutes of weeding with the hula-hoe. i'm pooped!

The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
May 19, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
30 mile fixie ride from the potash boat ramp to town via a speedboat shuttle.


A couple of photo breaks.


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 3, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
50k mtn bike ride often paved and sometimes technical.
From "Negro bill" (William Grandstaff) canyon along the grand (colo) river to the bike trail north. Up the hill (grunt) to the Moab brand trails and beyond a short way up the Gemini trail,. A little "E-Z" action and back down the hill to Moab, including a (mercifully brief) stop at the slackline park!

Taking time out to smell the flowers;
Link
http://www.mapmyrun.com/view_workout?w=293778531
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jun 3, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
I've done a few 90 mile plus bike rides over the years, but never had broken the 100 mile barrier. So last week I put on my favorite bike socks and gave it a go. Davis to lake Berryessa then down to Napa valley and back to Davis. Nice ride. Legs could have taken a lot more, but my feet were cramping up much of the way which meant I was glad when it was over.

The loop I took was actually 95 miles or so, so when I got to town I turned around and headed back out to make up another 5 miles. Arrived home still a bit short so I went around the block two times until the odometer clicked over to the big 100. Next goal a double century. But it will take a bit more training. Ha
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 4, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Nice work! Especially for just wearing socks!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 4, 2013 - 01:17am PT
Did that Smith Rock 15 mile trail run - splatted in front of the second aid station. Grandma got up and kept going.

Ran the Happy Girls Half in Bend and took my age group. Not happy with the time, but happy to have negative splits.

Now the weight lifting season is over, and I hope fresher legs let me train and run faster. Got in 8 miles with a big hill today instead of jogging post weight lifting....

I like working on my strength and power. The trainer thinks my refusal to take a true day of rest leads to cumulative fatigue. I seemed to have a good second half of the year once I suspended going to the gym. Looking forward to the change of seasons.

Next race will be the brutal Fueled by Fine Wine. This course does not result in fast times. It does generally yield a nice bottle for age group people and many coupons for free wine tasting. Lovely romp through the rows of vines.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jun 4, 2013 - 02:29am PT
50k mtn bike ride paved and technical.

Sick


Sully, if you aren't working in the Fall come join us in Moab for

http://www.moabtrailmarathon.com

Susan
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jun 12, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
I decided to finally "check in" on this thread for the first time, as I just started using Strava app (on iPhone), and it's a hoot!
Here's a solo road-bike ride I did today:

http://app.strava.com/activities/59985826

Still had 37% battery left. ;-)

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 12, 2013 - 06:57pm PT
Of course I'll do Hood to Coast again - but my team's application was not chosen in the lottery this year. Sleep deprivation contests are my favorite. THe Cascade Lakes Relay will be an interesting relay change of pace. I'm thinking that the smaller field and more remote course will give it a different kind of charm. I hope we do get routed to see many lake views.

I had knee surgery 14 years ago. They said I would never run again. That translates into one marathon every two years instead of two per year. Sully, you can reclaim the runner inside you again.

Fabulous run today. The Rose Garden is all a-bloom. 8 miles including the Arboretum and the Rose Garden. For an 8 mile city run, 5 miles are on trails or park streets with virtually no traffic.

Legs are starting to feel more lively. Today I enjoyed it instead of lived through it. Celebrate. Happy dance.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jun 12, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
I've been getting in shape doing laps to the local taverns but it does take its toll.

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jun 27, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Biking alot this summer. Enjoying it tons...easier on knees than my beloved running. Trying to get at least 2500-3200 feet in every couple days.
This morning, HOT, 2800 feet of climbing around Lower Mt. Madonna...with a stop at Gizdich Ranch of course! This is a short but steep ride (20 miles). On cycling GPS "laps" are in 5 mile increments.


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
Staying after it but not reporting much. Averaging over50 miles a week, did a 36 mile bike ride day before yesterday. Hiking a lot at work...
salad

climber
Jun 27, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
I've been lazy since the Zion traverse, but last weekend did 26.2 from Lake Hodges to Woodson and back. It was 26 exactly, so we did .1 each way to the gas station to grab a beer.

No sooner did we open it did 5-0 pull up... oops.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jun 27, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
32.3 miles run so far this week, 2 hours swimming in the ocean. Training for Sat/Sun back to back 10ks in less than 4 weeks. Try to PR the second. The heat always kills me in July races, I'm trying to train above the HM level to compensate.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jun 27, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
I'm near the end of the second week of Insanity. It hasn't killed me and it has make me stronger!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
Funny,I'm near the end of 56 years of insanity...
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 27, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
Summer doldrums......in Ouray for the next month. Aerobic and climbing on alternate days. First time I am doing something that can be construed as training.....shhh!
The aerobic is a hike that starts at 7,700 and goes 2,800 vertical (short version) or 4,700 (long version) steep! Climbing is sport on three different types of rock.....outdoor gym. Might even project a route.....first time for that.
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Jun 27, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
Rehabbing a groin pull but still logging slow miles. Doing a 5 mile race on the 4th of July to see what progress has been made. Looking to meet up with those who will be doing the Moab trail race in November. I am planning to do the half marathon, and want to climb some routes the week following if anyone is interested.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2013 - 12:13am PT
Keep in touch!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:57am PT
Aerobic damage control continues with xc ski training which involves running, hiking, climbing, summer skiing, roller skiing, biking, beer drinking, and eating.

One of these years I'll get fit.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jun 28, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
500 mile bike ride on a 100 lb heavily laden touring bike, across Colombia toward Ecuador. So far most has been downhill (ha). Bogota is at 8500 feet, and I had to drop down to 1000 feet elevation. NOW the climbing starts. I hate to think what this is going to do to my lungs. Quito is at 9000{ plus. :)
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jun 28, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
Bought a heart rate monitor the other day, holy moley was I out of touch on the data. I recommend everyone to step up and get one. Good news, the silly watch thinks I'm 25 due to max heart rate and shagocious durability.

Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 1, 2013 - 07:47am PT
OK, I'm about to register for my first century ride. Its in Flagstaff on 7/20. I'm going to try to ramp up my training, and try to get a few 50+ mile rides in.

I'll be using my Easy Racers recumbent. These things are ideal for long distance riding since your body is in a much more natural position.

I'm a little concerned. Last time I did a long ride (45 mile mt bike ride with lots of climbing) I developed horrible cramps in my legs after about 2 hours. Not fun at all. I put it down to going in dehydrated, and pushing too hard in the early part of the ride.

Ok, I'm off to get a long ride in this morning before it gets too hot . . .

Edit: Whew! 42 miles, 3 hour ride. I'm ready for a nap . . .
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 1, 2013 - 09:53am PT
Insanity's Polymetric Cardio Circuit is on tap for this afternoon although so is 94 degree temps. A sweat feast is insured, I suspect.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 1, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
I was a tad disappointed with my slog up St. Helens yesterday. My feet got so hot, I was not moving well and needed to rip my shoes off, bury my feet in snow.

TOday is suppoed to be wicked hot. I went for my run very early - lunch at 9:30 today!!! TO my surprise and delight, my legs felt pretty fresh. Instead of staying in the sun by the river, I opted for the hilly Washington Park route. 8 miles felt great, no legs of lead. I recall many times when the day after a volcano slog, I suffered through a flat five miler.

Verdict - aerobic capacity OK. Anaerobic capacity - lacking......
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 1, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
Plenty of fluids, Hudon. I felt a little woosey after my 3 hour ride, and it went from 6:30 - 9:30 AM. The temp hadn't hit 90 yet. I let myself get a little dehydrated.

Climbing has ruined me. It has taught me how to go without water (you went without water because there wasn't any. It was your punishment for moving too slow)

I can still do it, but I always pay the price later.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
My goal for 7/1/13 was 1000 miles, and I'm at 963. I'll take it.
Only 97° here in Moab and a five mile work trip left to go, today!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jul 1, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
One of the things I like about running, is the immediate gratification.

I ran 11 miles the 23rd, first double digit since March and my body was freaking out for the next 30 hours.

Ran 12 yesterday, one week later, and it went down nice and clean. Yardwork after.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 1, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
Yes, don't worry about that, I'll be drinking before, during and after!
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 3, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Oh yeah, 50 miles in about 3:50. I feel much better than I did on Monday after a 42 miler. I even had some juice left in the final 10 mi.

So, this century ride is on Saturday 7/20. I'm thinking I want to push my mileage up to at least 75 mi. If I can get at least 2 of those in before the event, I shouldn't suffer too bad on century.

Question: How many days rest should I get between my last long training ride and the main event?

I'm thinking 2 or 3.

Any insight would be appreciated.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 3, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
You should have seen me sweat yesterday, it was simply impressive, even if I do say so myself!

Your now that saying " that which does not kill me, makes me stronger"? Well, I sure fricken' hope so!
salad

climber
Jul 9, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
day hiked whitney and muir yesterday from the main trail. not really exciting but a good workout nontheless.
weezy

climber
Jul 11, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
tues: hike-a-biked 1800' in 2.3 miles, about hour and a half up, thirteen minutes down.
weds: biked 10.5 mile loop, just under 2000' of climbing
yesterday: summited tuk no (12048 ft), 2k vertical

my poor little dog is tuckered!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 11, 2013 - 06:06pm PT
Bravo Sully!!
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Jul 11, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
i love chopping wood.
that's my digs.
i hate running.
but i'll go bust through 20 rounds
in a sesh,
especially satisfying in these heat waves.
my wood crib is bulging,
and winter is still months off.

goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 11, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
I'm impressed with you runners, my Mom was a fan for over 60 years before she stopped.

Osgood–Schlatter disease made me hate the sport at a young age and I've never got over it, so I started cycling and got over it.

How come you never see runners smile?

Oh sure they smile when they stop running but never during, always that painful expression.

I pass cyclists, rollerbladers. skaters, we're all smiling, runners look like they are passing a gallstone.

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 11, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
Running = Joy most days.

Now I am hyperventilating. Why? Beacause I went down to the locker room for my mid-day run and discovered that I forgot to pack shorts. Now the whole staff has to suffer because I did not get my prescribed stress relief run yet.

Tapering down this week. Sunday is Fueled by Fine Wine, a lovely 1/2 marathon through brutally hilly vineyards. 10 for scenery and torture. Also will score a 10 for obscenely early race. By 9 AM, I will be over the finish line and at the tasting tent with my souvenir wine glass.

I guess it will be 5 miles this evening, 4 miles tomorrow, rescue drill on Saturday, then 13 miles of sidehills through steep jory soil....
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jul 11, 2013 - 07:21pm PT
Running is akin to freedom.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jul 11, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
I've got back to back 10ks in just over a week and have been doing a lot of speedwork and have run the past 7 days straight. I crashed at a pathetic 3.3 miles today. May RD 2 days and run 13 with the group Sunday or try again tomorrow and only do the 7 Sunday. Need to taper a bit for the 2 races.

10b4me

Ice climber
Middle-of-Nowhere, Arizona
Jul 13, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
did a nice forty miler on the road bike this morning.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 13, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
Did 60+ mi on the bike today

W Covina to Long beach.

I Gotta get a real road bike!
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 13, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
Cool, I did 60 yesterday.

Resting today, going for 85 - 90 tomorrow.

Century ride in one week . . .
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
Ran 5 mille trail run yesterday.
Hike and 2 ows 5.10 &.11d today.
Tomorrow; run and climb (new route(?)) if the rain holds off enough.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 13, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Worked a rescue drill and area familiarization. Not very aerobic. 1/2 marathon in the morning. Finished that all important carbo load, and will crash shortly. 1 1/2 hour drive to a 7 AM start - YIKES - for a brutal run through vineyards. Looking forward to the finish.

Optimistically I packed the car with climbing gear thinking we could stop after the race. 20 years ago, I know I would. Let's see what the old girl has in her tank tomorrow.
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Jul 14, 2013 - 12:35am PT
Hard core thread!


;>)
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 14, 2013 - 07:27am PT
I'm drinking coffee right now, getting ready for about 6 hours on the bike. This will be my longest ride yet. The 60 I did day before yesterday really wiped me out, so we'll see how this goes.

I'm a little nervous about this century ride next weekend. This will be my first. The thing is that the crux of the ride comes after the 60 mile point (about an 18 mile hill climb). I just hope my pistons will have enough left to crank out that hill late in the ride like that.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2013 - 07:46am PT
Power vibes to you Reeotch, this morning and on next weeks century.
I'm doing my coffee before a medium trailrun.


Edit; did a seven mile Fivefinger trailrun on the headquarters trail. On to the crags!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 14, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Reeotch, staying properly hydrated on long rides is your friend. I've done several centuries over the years and average about 280 miles a week these days. Water is not enough since your body needs protein and carbs on that long a ride and liquid nutrition is better than a pbj sandwich.

I'm a big fan of hammer nutrition for endurance rides, not a sponsor or salesman, but the stuff works.
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, Co
Jul 14, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Ran the "Boulder Skyline Traverse" This morning. - South Boulder Peak, Bear Peak, Green Mtn, Flagstaff, and Cinetas

about 17 miles, 7000 vert

Im pretty spent now!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 14, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
^^^That's a good day out.
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Jul 14, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Mt. Elbert South trail yesterday. 4,800 elevation gain and about 5 miles one way to the summit, in about 3 hours.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jul 14, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
Three Triathlon deaths I can see, so far, this w/e. May be more dangerous than climbing.

Only 11 miles. Came out too fast in the heat and got beat up on the hills.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 14, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
Rick, you probably smoked some 20-somethings out there. Nice.

The old lady finished around the 25% mark in a field of 1,300 deranged people accumulating personal worsts for a 1/2 marathon. The 1.5 miles inside the Lange vineyard reached new levels of ridiculous - it seemed that the soil was freshly tilled on the steep uphill.

At the finish, we were confronted with yet another endurance feat. 30 vineyards were providing 2 - 3 tastings. My pacing was good.

Visitors - I have piles of coupons for tastings in the Dundee Hills.

Next up - the Cascade Lakes Relay. 12 women and 200 mountain miles.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 14, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
I just finished the first month of Insanity, am on the rest week this coming week and then I start the real hardcore last month.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jul 15, 2013 - 01:28am PT
2 mile run
Bleacher sprints
10x50 yd dashes
2 x 10 minute shadow boxing.
1 mile speed walk
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 15, 2013 - 08:04am PT
Yep, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.

Yesterday I rode about 82 mi. in a little over 7 hours. I drank 2 liters of water, plus 48oz of gatorade (yeah, I know, but it is better than water at that distance)
Ran out of fluids with about 8 miles to go. It was probably right around 90 degrees by the time I finished.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 15, 2013 - 08:40am PT
Right on Reeotch!
Today is a rest day, but I will do some lame Mtn biking in your honor!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jul 15, 2013 - 09:42am PT
Well, 10 weeks into an intense summer of training for nordic racing next winter. Mix of trail running, weight lifting, roller skiing, cycling. Eager to see what I can do next winter if I actually train with a consistent organized approach. It is cutting into my climbing however! I feel addicted to the aerobic action, finding myself contemplating going over to Snowshed to do laps with my bro's, but usually opting for a wonderful trail run instead!

Yesterday I got worked! Though I have been doing more miles on the road than ever before, I haven't been on my mountain bike in 6 years. I went out with some hardcore mt. bikers, Mt. Rose to the Flume, around Marlette Lake, up to the Tahoe Rim Trail, back to Mt. Rose. 30 miles. Legs felt strong, and I could handle the 4 hour effort, but my bike handling skills put me way off the back...not willing to bunny hop through all the boulders, very cautious. No falls though, and I live to ride another day!

Not too sore or anything this morning, and I do get to climb all week with my climbing camp kids.

Peter
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jul 15, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
Peter, be smart on that mountain bike. With a good summer and fall of focused training you should be dangerous this season. Have fun!
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 17, 2013 - 02:02am PT
Here's a solo ride I did today (3 trips up to East Peak of Mt Tamalpias via 3 different routes). It was full on Winter conditions (in the middle of July, LOL). Froze my ass off on a couple of the descents despite being dressed for Winter...

Gotta love the Bay Area!

http://app.strava.com/activities/67653235

Heart-rate was kept between 135-145 even on the steepest sections, basically an endurance pace.

I'm surprised more of you guys aren't on Strava. It's like crack for us healthy types. ;-)
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jul 17, 2013 - 02:47am PT
i used to work in a vietnamese plywood factory, constant motion, 10 hours a day, no breaks, plenty of glue, heart rate about 220 bpm when the glue kicked in,

this is what i did right here>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0qKUKSJ4dQ
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 03:07am PT
I'm really surprised that with 493 views there were only 8 likes.


Today:
Abs rollers
Crunches
Cocoons
3/4 sit-ups
Leg raises

4 mile walk with dog.
Watched plywood movie.
Went to bed.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 17, 2013 - 08:47am PT
Mt Tam East Peak - late June (click for full-size)...



Yesterday...



On the 3rd ride up the sun quite unexpectedly came out near the very top...

Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 17, 2013 - 09:17am PT
Nice bike, Hardman.

I'll be riding my recumbent in the century on Saturday. (stand-by for a pic)

82 mi. Sunday, a fast 50 yesterday, getting ready for an easy 50 today, then 2 days rest.

The century is in Flagstaff. I'm afraid we're going to get dumped on. Nothing like a torrential hail storm to spice up your ride . . .
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 17, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
One thing I know, I'll be sore after this ride, but not nearly as sore as those who ride a conventional road bike.

I have a distinct disadvantage on steep hills since I can't stand up and use my weight and upper body. 100% leg power.
However, all things being equal, it is easier to achieve and maintain a higher speed on flats and down hills.
We'll see how it goes, recumbents have been known to do quite well on longer rides.

murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jul 17, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Monday: 1.8mi; first run in over a year. Today, 3.5mi.

At this rate of increase, I figure my daily run a month from now will be 75,162mi. But I'm not sure I can keep it up.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
^^^^ I love it when I'm on the steep part of the training curve . . .

I'm not done with my recumbent rant:

I'm giving up about 10 lbs on average to an upright. My bike weighs in a little over 30 lbs. That's with the steel frame.

Easy Racers also makes a carbon fiber(23 lbs), and the real dream machine, the titanium frame.

Check them out here: http://easyracers.com/tirush.html
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:21pm PT
Recumbants have at least two potentially fatal weakness.

1. Nobody can see you!!!

2. They accelerate so slowly that they can't get out of their own way.
Jacemullen

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Quick 20 minute run at an about 8 minute mile pace. Felt real good. Except for that in-n-out I had half an hour before.

We deal. Working on getting into alligator wrestling shape.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
Mostly myths, especially acceleration. Its like Usain Bolt, not usually ahead in the first 10 - 20 meters, but that is more than made up for in short order.

I do think I'm going back to mountain biking after this. I hate trusting my life to knuckle heads. It really can be scary. I use a mirror and it helps a lot.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
It's those first 10 meters that keep you out from under the bus.

S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jul 17, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
signed up for the '14 Austin Marathon. Gonna do a 6 mile run on Saturday, and continue to do 6 mile and longer runs every Saturday.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2013 - 04:15am PT
6.5 mile five finger trailrun, extended turtle rock trail, followed by a .10+ and an .11b both ow leads onsight
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 18, 2013 - 07:55am PT
Jaybro, ^^^^ you're an animal!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 18, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
I won't say this too loudly - but the heat broke a bit yesterday. I'm trying to train in heat right now since the Cascade Lakes Relay is coming up quickly.

Did 8 hilly miles yesterday with five hard 4 minute intervals. My legs are returning to life after that wicked 1/2 marathon on Sunday. I will try to double today 6 at lunch and 3 this evening. I need more speed. It is unnerving to be so much slower than I was. But that embarassment shouldn't cause me to quit, but to accept that a) I need to work harder and b) 56 is not 36.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jul 18, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Seamstress, be careful in that heat. Your speed will there in the fall when it cools down.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 18, 2013 - 12:58pm PT
Joined the Rapha Rising: La Centième challenge (to climb 7235 meters (or 23,737') in 8 days during the Tour de France, in celebration of its 100th edition.

So far I've done 25,166', in 3 rides totaling 162 miles (Mon, Tues, and Wed, all solo). I couldn't ride on Sunday when it started, and I can't ride this coming Sunday, so when I CAN ride I'm trying to go big. ;-)
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Jul 18, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
79 minutes of drinking beer followed by 5 minutes of scaring the squirrels, capped by a quick dinner and 3 hours of non-network TV. Tomorrow, I'm going to double that.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2013 - 08:29am PT
Yesterday. Seven mile Mtn bike ride, turtle rock trail variation w/ extra technical sections. Today will be aerobic rest day except for approaches (I think I've been nine days on, between running and biking.) Concentrating on climbing is the order of the day.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 19, 2013 - 11:25am PT
Way to go, Jay-Bro!

Where's Turtle Rock Trail?
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 19, 2013 - 11:31am PT
Did an Insanity "rest week" workout and then went on a 12 mile Mtn bike ride yesterday. Another rest week workout is on tap for today.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Jul 19, 2013 - 11:42am PT
Nice Jaybro!

You ever hit that CurtGowdy MTB zone? Hella fun trails and the setting ain't to bad either. There is climbing out there as well, I'll bet you know all about it. When I lived in FoCo it was one of my favorite places and way better than most FrontRange shitaqua!
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jul 19, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
I'm totally out of commission, knees sore from too much running. Gotta take a break of they won't get better. I think Im just not cut out for distance running.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 21, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Did the entire SGR trail round trip from the house yesterday. Did the loop from the dam to the canyon first and got the uphill out of the way, then Long Beach and back.


Just short of 100 miles, 80 of it bike trail.

Felt better than after the 60 mi the week before. Most likely due to an early start and good cloud cover until about 10:30. Missed finishing before noon by a few minutes.

Still gotta get a real road bike!


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
Turtle rock trail is a trail circumnavigating central Vedauwoo, Hardman.

I've climbed in Curt Gowdy in decades past Cragar,but didn't know about the mtn bikes trails now. I will check them out in the very near future, thanks! I'll bring my fiver fingers as well..

No aerobic activity today besides a short approach with a large pack, (dble/ triple rack of larger cams, 2 valley giants, water, photo stuff, etc), though I maintain that5.11+ ow is pretty aerobic! Biking/ running every day for over a week though, seemed like time for a rest from it.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 21, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
Good job TGT...I know that trail pretty well..It's boring but at least it's car-free...RJ
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 21, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
Car free, but not idiot free.

Seems there's as many of them on bikes as in cars.

The 5:00 AM start mitigates a lot of that though.

Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 21, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
Rest day today. I start the second month of Insanity. the month where all the workouts whose names begin with "Max" lurk, tomorrow.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jul 22, 2013 - 12:08am PT
26min up, 22 down on the Bear Gulch / Alambique loop in Wunderlich Park.

After a week of running every other day and biking/climbing the other days, I've somehow put on 3 or 4 pounds. Guessing it's the titanic glutes I'm building, as I ripped the seat of my pants warming up on a boulder problem at the gym this morning. (A makeshift climbing-tape interior patch somehow held up fine.)
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jul 22, 2013 - 12:21am PT
Yesterday:

Alternate forward and lateral dumbbell raises
Upright barbell rows
Dumbbell shoulder rows
Incline push-ups

1 mile run
10x 50 yd dashes. (Killer)

1 mile speed walk with dog

Today:
4 mile speed walk with dog
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Jul 22, 2013 - 02:51am PT
Right outside my door I discovered a short section of urban trail going to a Rite Aid. It sunk in that it's fairly steep, and you could just run laps around the block for pretty-much full value. There is also a landscaped drainage of loose rocks on the route for ankle cartilage etc too. Been hitting it up alot in the last week.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Jul 22, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
2013 has been a good year, so far...
Feb. American Canyon 50K
March, Way Too Cool 50K
March, Knickerbocker Canyon 30K
April, American River 50 mile
May, Silver State 50K
May, Western States Training Runs, 32 miles, and 20 miles, back to back/
June, Western States Endurance Run, 100 mile

And lots of miles between the races

Next up, Tamalpa Headlands 50K in August.

And hopefully, Hwy 40 to Hwy 50 on PCT in September, and Tuolumne to Red's Meadow.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
Damn, Atch!
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Jul 22, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
Hahaha, Cant. Stop. Running.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 22, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
Yesterday - 6 mile AM run - nice tempo, climbed in the afternoon, 2 mile PM run.

Today, hit the heat

Heard the team might be short a runner for the relay. Might have to do 4 legs. I will be doing more doubles, even if they are short, to get me legs and head accustomed to running tired.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
June, Western States Endurance Run, 100 mile
Wowsa.....all that running you must be using that belt buckle to cinch in your belt!
Way to go! Very very envious!


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
We should run together someday Sully. My new Garmin GPS watch with constant feedback has me running faster than in a long time. I mightt even be able to keep you in sight!
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jul 23, 2013 - 04:39pm PT
Well, I went to the century ride in Flagstaff last Saturday. As I was reading the pre-ride information I saw they had a cut-off time for the century riders.
2.5 hours to be at the 43 mile point, and 8 hours to complete the ride or be picked up by the sag wagon.

This bummed me out. I really wanted to do the full century. I know how fast I can ride, and making it to the 43 mile point in 2.5 would have required me to push way too hard early in the ride. My strategy was to really take it easy on the first half since the real climbing started at the 60 mile point.

Anyway, I switched and did the 65 miler instead. I did it in 4:24.00 which I was more than happy with. I am still bummed I didn't get to ride the full century (which I had trained for, and I know I could have made, only in more like 8.5 - 9 hours instead of the 8 hours alotted)

I just wish they could have put that information on the website with the course descriptions and ride profiles.

Now, I have to find another one . . .
weezy

climber
Jul 24, 2013 - 02:15am PT
yesterday: 16 mile lap on moonlight meadows and shuman's gulch w/ me dag.
today: 28 miler in the abajo mountains. 4.7k' climbing had.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jul 24, 2013 - 02:20am PT
1 mile run

6 x 50 yd dashes

6 x bleacher sprint/ incline push- up superset

1 mile speed walk with dog
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 24, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
Good job Sully, old trails are the best, triggers all sorts of great memories.

Been averaging about 75 miles a day on the bike, 35 in the morning 40 in the evening with a two mile swim along the Gulf every other day.




Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 24, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Did my first-ever solo century this morning, no stops.

http://app.strava.com/activities/69541867

It's amazing what the body can do on very little food. I had a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast, and all I had on the ride was 3oz of Hammer Gel (Espresso, tastes like chocolate pudding). Got a PR on a longish Strava segment in the last 10 miles (end of bike path to Golden Gate Bridge).

Here's the heart-rate breakdown:



Next I'm gonna ride my 30lb Shít Bike™ to the Giants game at AT&T Park. Wish me luck!
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jul 24, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
six mile run in Texas heat
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Jul 24, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
8 mile run in the GA sultry summer. (temperatures are down this summer; we're having a wet one with nothing higher than 93º so far. The humidity was 99% when I ran with a temp of 75º at 6:30 a.m..

Speed work on track plus 2 mile warm up and 2 mile cool down on rails to trails

I will hit 1000 mile mark for this year at the end of July (should have been there but injuries and illness syndrome stopped me).
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 25, 2013 - 12:42am PT
7mile trail run
8mile technical Mtn bike ride

I try to get 1 half marathon, or somehow equivalent once a month. Since December 2011. I think that's as close as I'm gonna get for July '13
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Jul 25, 2013 - 06:17am PT
I've been running 35+ years, with some time off at several junctures due to long term injuries and health issues. I can't count the number of 5 & 10K's; but I can count the number of 15K's, half and full marathons. 2,2 and 0 respectfully. I had to scratch on a marathon, the morning of the race.

I am on the way to a half in November and the Rocket City Marathon in December.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jul 25, 2013 - 08:06am PT
6ish around parts of Baltimore some of which served as sets for The Wire; not sold on the whole plywood-window craze around here. Here for 10 days; thinking of checking out the EarthTreks climbing gym...
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Jul 27, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
I'm at 1,116.72 miles for 2013. It took 197:38:37 (h:m:s). I gained 48,077 feet in elevation; but I'm back in the hole having lost 47,321 feet.

murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jul 27, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
An hour's muggy thrash through a spider-webby, overgrown mess that somehow topped the list in an article about the best trails in the Baltimore area.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jul 29, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
I've been running a fair amount lately. 4.5 miles around the local lake
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 29, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
Four mile swim in the Gulf, no wind, water was like glass at low tide.
Saw a dolphin pod six deep and a bunch of Manta Rays.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:06pm PT
I have a colonoscopy scheduled for Wednesday and am on a restricted diet today and even worse tomorrow. I'm think I'm going to take a few days off from my Insanity workouts.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:35am PT
2 mile run

5x50 yd sprints

10 bleacher sprints

Roughly 2 mile speed walk with dog
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:43am PT
four mile swim, holy smokes!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2013 - 11:21am PT
Nursing tweaked knee going for short practice run later today......
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Jul 31, 2013 - 11:27am PT
A friend of mine just finished that little run out of Death Valley, Badwater. He's a hero in my eyes. His video got me out running again.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Dean Karanzes in Runner’s World after the race: "We were running in the hottest place on Earth during a heat wave. We also hit massive headwinds, I'd say 20 to 25 miles per hour, during the climb to Towne Pass. It was the second or third toughest in terms of conditions that I've seen in 11 years of running Badwater."
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 31, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
Well, my body had a new surprise for me. I have been purposefully training in the heat to get ready for the Cascade Lakes Relay. The pager went off, and I went out on a rescue mission at 8 PM (completing an 8 miler in 90 degree heat at 4 PM). I charged up the trail, keeping up with the 6'4" partner. He's the paramedic and I'm the rigger/EMT. In the second hour, I started to fall behind. Not normal. He moved ahead to make patient contact, and the second wave of 20 year olds passed me. I had a 15 minute jump on them. Not normal. at 6,500', we left the climbing route and traversed across a couple of lava canyons to make patient access. As I traversed the nasty 4rth class terrain of loose boulders on a sttep ash slope, my right quad seized. I was clinging to this precariously balanced boulder squawking for 10 minutes. This has never happened before. ONce I could move, I scrambled, Frankenstein like, to a perch where I could take off my pack, grab some food, and replenish the obviously missing electrolytes. I was mortified that this happened. I heard over the radio that one of the rescuers who passed me was in trouble with cramps at the site of the patient. Not good. He has an outdoor job and was short of electrolytes. Fortunately I was able to get my rebellious leg to work again, and I managed to not be a liability. It was sobering to have the body in such rebellion. I think I know my limits, but apparently I miscalculated.

Now I am in the pre race rest phase. I have an easy 3 miler today, and tomorrow will be 0 miles. That will be hard.

The race starts on Friday. Hope the wildfires don't interfere. It is looking good so far, but lightening is expected tonight. I have been told that the team is short a runner. So 3 of us will be doing an extra leg. This little old lady will be doing 4 legs in 24 hours. I am taking an assortment of electrolyte laden foods with me. Perhaps the unfortunate incident on the mountain was a good educational tool to make me more diligent about the quality of the food/beverages consumed in this endeavor. I am still looking forward to the run from Diamond Lake to Bend via a geology tour.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 31, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
^^^ Not enough Potassium maybe?
I get wicked cramps, legs stop working if I don't eat bananas or take Potassium pills daily.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Jul 31, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
Check out SaltStick capsules. They really help avoid the cramps. Most folks running hard use S Caps, but they cause stomach cramps for me, and SaltStick caps don't. If you are running less than a couple/few hours, you really don't need salt caps.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jul 31, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
Upper image was yesterday's bike ride, 58 miles, 2500' climbing from Santa Cruz to Moss Landing and back. It was a fun easy ride to get in a good amount of miles with rolling climbs.

Lower image is today's run, 8.88 miles primarily through Capitola then into New Brighton State Park. I bonked and had to walk the last 3/4 mile home.

Thanks for the tip on the Salt tabs. I'm going to look into that ... especially after bonking so completely today.



Susan
Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber
City of Salt
Jul 31, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
I just got back from a run in 98 degree heat and have been wondering about dehydration. Do you lose more water when it is hot and humid or when it is hot and dry? I know I get more thirsty when it is dry. But it seems that evaporative cooling would be less efficient when humid and perhaps we sweat more to compensate? I think I'm more diligent about re hydrating when it is dry and sometimes don't do as well when it is more humid. Anyone know the real story?
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 31, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
The google overlords report this Mike.

http://engineering.mit.edu/live/news/1174-why-do-we-sweat-more-in-high-humidity

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3226448


S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jul 31, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
10k run early in the morning.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 31, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
Hot & Humid does seem to take a greater toll - it fills up the medical tents much faster. Sweat can't evaporate and cool you, so you sweat even more. The 2007 Chicago Marathon was a disaster in terms of heat & humidity's impact on a large sample size of humans.

http://www.runnersworld.com/chicago-marathon/melt-down?page=8

Running the Numbers

45,000 Runners registered for the 2007 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon

6,327 Charity runners who registered for the race (5,164 of them reportedly finished)

15,763 First-time marathoners registered for the race

36,280 Official number of starters (including wheelchair athletes)

10,746 Runners who were diverted, injured, or who dropped out

25,534 Official number of 2007 finishers

1,363 Number of runners who broke 3:35 (finishing before the race was officially canceled)

3,640 Number of runners who broke four hours

11,611 Number who broke four hours in 2006

685 Number of people seen by medical personnel (including spectators)

185 Number of runners transferred by ambulance to a hospital (an additional 135 required transfer to the main medical tent)

66 Number of runners admitted to a Chicago hospital for inpatient care

12 Number of runners who were admitted to a Chicago hospital in critical condition

Chicago provides yet another prime example of heat stress. The 1995 heat wave killed over 700 residents in a few days as the heat index (combination of heat and humidity) soared to 120 and stayed high every evening.

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/443213in.html

Drink up! Ingest electrolytes. Check-in with each other.

Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber
City of Salt
Aug 2, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
Interesting stuff but still no definitive answer. Does one lose more fluid from sweat in humid or dry conditions given the same temperature?

The second link from goatboy has a debate with both sides being equally represented.

What about swimming? I tend to get dehydrated swimming, but that may be partly because I don't like to stop (when lap swimming in a pool), so I usually don't drink up until I'm finished.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Aug 2, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
Mike, your reasoning is spot on. You sweat when your body needs to shed heat. In dry conditions, the sweat does its job because it evaporates quickly, pulling the heat from you for the liquid-to-gas phase change. In humid conditions, it stays liquid, and you just dehydrate for no benefit.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Aug 2, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
jumps in a blonde pony tailed, black Nike jog bra tan woman. I must have spent a good five minutes fending off Brandy Chastain. Pretty cool.

This past spring when. Was channel surfing I saw her on TV on some celebrity diving show. Man is she still a HARD body.
Lapping...ha ha ancient history for me.
Oh well, at least I'm still breathing!

Susan
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Aug 3, 2013 - 10:37am PT
I did my best speed-work in 10 years on Tuesday (16 x 400 @ 6:30-6:45 pace w/ 100 recovery).

That night woke up with severe vertigo, fought it blindly till Thursday and went to ER. Now I can't walk a straight line; but only slight dizziness. First time ever suffering this malady. They gave me dilaudid (headache pain) and valium for vertigo. Some strong medicine! I went from one extreme to the other. Two days later I still haven't gotten my balance back. So much for my 5k today...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Aug 3, 2013 - 11:19am PT
four mile swim, holy smokes!!

Indeed! Where is it warm enough to stay in the water that long without a wetsuit? Most certainly nowhere near the Bay Area!

Susan, nice map screenshots. What app/device do you use to record?

I've been crippled by a severely malfunctioning Shimano Di2 rear derailleur, which translates to going from a 241 mile week to a 52 mile week (last 2 weeks). Getting bored and restless, I did my first run in over a year, choosing to start at the bottom of the famed Dipsea Stairs (to Edgewood Ave, Cypress Trail, Tenderfoot Trail, Cascade - back to stairs.

Dipsea Stairs off the couch = OUCH.

Although I ran with a short stride to minimize muscle recruitment in an effort to limit soreness after the run, 3 days later it's hard to walk. ;-)
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Aug 4, 2013 - 06:15am PT
Timid & Nita, thanks for the tips. I did some research yesterday and read about the Epley Exercises. I did it once.

Strange sensations to say the least. I walk like I am inebriated, now I have severe ear ache.

edit: went to an ENT doc yesterday, the vertigo was caused by a virus. It takes 6 weeks to totally dissipate and hopefully never return. I was already on antibiotics for sinus infection. They tested my hearing; not good news; but most of the damage is from old school shotgun shooting (without earplugs).

Using the prescribed treatment by dr timid to help with balance. Going for a run today...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 4, 2013 - 10:55am PT
If you have an earache too, get to a doctor!

Sounds like you have an inner ear infection.

I lost one ear to sudden idiopathic deafness and had screwed up balance for more than a year. (probably from a viral infection of the inner ear)

You don't want to go there!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Aug 4, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Susan, nice map screenshots. What app/device do you use to record?

Hardman....they are the Google Earth images from uploads from my Garmin 500 device I use on my bike and Garmin Forerunner 410 wrist unit for my running.
The couch to Dipsea...crazy person. Haven't done a Dipsea in over 20 years, could say its because I haven't gotten a slot in th lottery, but really I haven't even applied!

Yesterday: finished the metric century of the Santa Cruz Mtns Challenge, 7000 feet of climbing. Today: trying to reclaim my body. Think another ice bath in store.


Susan
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 5, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Two hours on the road bike this morning, at an easy conversational pace. Managed to squeeze it in there between the end of commute traffic and the beginning of the heat for a very pleasant ride.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
Seven mile trail run on the greater, outer turtle rock trail.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 5, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
I was doing my usual 6 mile run in the middle of a triathlon, pretty cool.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 5, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
Victorious Secret had a fabulous and fun time at the Cascade Lakes Relay. 216.6 miles, temperatures varied from 25 to 90+. Some awesome spots were discovered.

A photo sampler
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Aug 6, 2013 - 01:25pm PT

Seamstress... The Cascade Lake relay.. looks like a fun event.....enjoyed your colorful pictures...
..................................


Tobia, Do you still have vertigo problems?....If so, I hope you also read TGT post.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Aug 6, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
I ran 7 sluggish miles on my "hill course". I woke up with the wobbly legs; but the Epley exercise helped.

The ENT doc said my vertigo was caused by a virus; he didn't name it and said effects will linger for about 6 weeks. I am on antibiotics for sinus infection, and that should clear up abnormalities in my ear drum. He didn't name the virus, and didn't say how he came to that conclusion.

From what I read it must be Vestibular neuronitis; due to the symptoms, my respiratory problems and his treatment.

The other viral vertigo disorder, Cochlear neuronitis, sounds far more serious.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 6, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Loads of swimming in Canada, I did need a wetsuit for the ST Lawrence.


17.1 miles run in 3 days. Getting back up to base is tough.

The Running Forums are abuzz today about some guy whose intelligence suffered from his brain boiling in his skull at Badwater. Be careful.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/azetc/articles/20130731brutal-badwater-marathon-leaves-mark-runner.html?fb_action_ids=317048225098527&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map={%22317048225098527%22%3A695113390505799}&action_type_map={%22317048225098527%22%3A%22og.recommends%22}&action_ref_map=[]

Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Aug 6, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Your brain has to be a little pre-fried to enter the Badwater Race. Local does good, finished 9th overall at Badwater (2011). He's a bad man, 49 years old at the time.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Aug 12, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
Cooler temps have been good for running in Auburn lately. Saturday, 7 miles on WST in ASRA. Sunday, ran Goat Hill from Quarry Road parking, to cool and back to no hands bridge (11 to 12 miles). Hoping to run 30 to 40 this week. Hope everyone else is racking up the miles. More hills!
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 13, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
Swam today

500 yards backstroke
500 yards crawl
500 yards kick
500 yards breaststroke

Swam 1,000 of butterfly three days earlier.

Plan to climb Cathedral Peak in a few days just for the fun of it.

Looking forward to the bliss on top.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Aug 14, 2013 - 12:28am PT
Regarding badwater

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1954729&msg=2196679#msg2196679

Anyway, it's been a while, but I walked a mile in my shoes.

I also ran significantly more than that, still coughing, but those Werther's candies really help
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2013 - 12:45am PT
Inadvertent 24 mile sub marathon with no water on Sunday. Due to not fully charged GPS, unmarked trail branches on a new trail to me = new adventure. Live large!
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Aug 14, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Whoa!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 14, 2013 - 12:52am PT
Tonight:
2 mile run
3 mile speed wak with dog
Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, Co
Aug 19, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
4-pass loop running around the Maroon Bells out of Aspen.

Did something just over 30 miles in about 12 hours. Was going pretty slow. There were some people out there flying!

I think Anton holds the FKT of just over 4 hours
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Aug 26, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
Trying to mix it up with some different activities.


Big hooks, check.


Dead bait, not as much fun as supertopo but it will do.


Fish heads and conch.


40 mins of high excitement then Snarf!



Six foot black tip tagged for the NOAA.



Pulling hooks, say AHHHH!



Wrestling back to sea.



Then letting her go to fight another day.



Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
Did it get your heart rate up?
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Aug 26, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
Slightly higher than normal.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 26, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
It was a character building day, the kind when you don't want to do your scheduled work out. Got my 8 hilly miles in with low enthusiasm. But it is done. I can eat dinner guilt-free.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:11am PT
Did 435 miles on the road bike last week (Mon-Sun).

Gonna tone it down a bit this week, but still shooting for 300+ miles, riding every day.
10b4me

Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:15am PT
Damn, HK. Good on ya
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Getting my wheels back after my hip injury. 53 miles logged this past week. Legs starting to get some spring back.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
phuqing jacked up my leg upping my running mileage too fast.

Taking a week off from running. I started some light hand weights today.
sempervirens

climber
Aug 28, 2013 - 01:14am PT
Is yoga aerobic? It's not anaerobic.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Aug 30, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
after being sick, back up to about 10 miles per day

Imogene 2014?


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SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Aug 31, 2013 - 12:28am PT
Good ride...31 miles, good climbing, 2800 feet.

Susan
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 31, 2013 - 12:32am PT
bad ass Susan!
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Aug 31, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
yesterday 1:13 for 10 mile at 70% output
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 1, 2013 - 12:04am PT
XC ski stuff is in full swing with its amazing menu of activities; running, bouldering, rollerskiing, hiking, paddling, and on...

... as the summer heat decreases, the muscles begin to behave better and can take more activity. Now I got to get ready for a fall climbing trip and will ramp up the bouldering.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2013 - 09:12am PT
I used my aerobic exercise tracking software, for a climbing situation, with interesting results.
I ran map my run, on my iPhone on a car to summit solo of the route Tad,5.7 on Devil's Tower ( see Blitzo thread).
It worked fine, overall especially on the approach. It got confused on the climb itself though, not sure how the GPS likes vertical rock. When you click on the link below it shows a Lot of squiggles and backtracking, which was not, how the climb went. Weird! For extra fun click on the "3D flyover" function, and be sure to have an air sickness bag at hand!

http://www.mapmyrun.com/view_workout?w=361875393

Workout: Rock Climbing
Date: Aug 21, 2013
Distance: 1.86 mi
Duration: 1:39:21

To view 'Climbed 1.86 mi on 8/21/13', follow the link below:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/view_workout?w=361875393


You can also view my profile and add me as a Friend here:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/user_profile?u=384133014367856910

I sent this from MapMyRun+, available in the iTunes

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Sep 2, 2013 - 11:17am PT
Rode my road bike every day for two weeks totaling 886 miles doing a Strava challenge.

The first week I did 435 miles, the second week I did 451.

Quite unexpectedly, I finished 36th overall, and 10th in the USA (click for full size):


Before yesterday's final ride, I did a 2.6 mile trail run as a warmup, since the 1/4 mile driveway I had to climb to start the ride averages 20.9%, and the final few hundred feet are 25%! (on a road bike with 34 X 27 low gear).

Looking forward to 2 days off the bike!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 2, 2013 - 11:25am PT
Looking forward to 2 days off the bike!

You must have a GREAT saddle! Awesome job HK! Don't think my bottom could hold up to that thrashing!....or the legs, knees, lungs, etc etc
WTF kind of grades are those??????? Crazeeeeeeeee

Neat stats....I like Strava and I also use the Garmin connect stuff.

Jay, I always wondered what a climb would look like on the GPS software.

Well time to go do sumthin'

Susan
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Sitting here in Downieville, and its raining hard. We need the rain, so on one hand I am happy for it, on the other hand....my bike is stashed on top of Yuba Pass, and I am super psyched for a 35k classic roller ski with 3,800ft of steady smooth pavement uphill. As a fire smoke refugee I have happily discovered the Yuba Pass/Sierra Buttes region for training the last few days.

I have had a great summer of focused aerobic capacity training for XC racing. Last spring I entered a race series well above my middle age speed...but it got me inspired and I re-connected with a former Salomon/Fischer marathon teammate, Scott Johnston, who is now one of the top nordic coaches in the US. Scott is also a climber and has been Steve House's coach for some years. Look for a new book on training they just co-wrote and sent off to the publisher, due out early next spring. Scott generously offered to help me out with some training knowledge and coaching at a distance, and I am feeling great results so far. Been doing a combo of weight lifting, lots of trail running, roller skiing, a bit of cycling. I have never trained with such focus and consistency before. Not climbing nearly as much as last year, but I do feel strong when I do.

Last weekend was fun, Roller-skied from Lee Vining to top of Tioga Pass, then the next day climbed the Rostrum with my son Braden. Might have been better with a rest day in between, but we pulled it off! With some struggle, and I was worked for a few days after.

Some longer aerobic highlights of the summer have been Donner Summit to Squaw run (3:18), full east-west traverse of Castle Peak (2:45), Squaw Mt. run race (brutal 44:18, puked at the finish after good final sprint), Stinson Beach to East summit of Mt.Tam and back (3:25).

Starting to shift into more specific strength, hill bounding, uphill double pole, and speed work...and very psyched for a big winter of racing!

Peter
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Peter, you will be scary this winter! Glad you touched base with Scott, he has been doing good stuff with training.

Todd
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 2, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Did a 30 mi loop over and around the Whittier hills this morning (bike)

Colima wasn't the kickass hill I was expecting.

The Whittier Greenway is more pedestrian than bike friendly (too crowded, too many cross streets.) But It is a really cool re-purposing of a railway right of way complete with using the old tressels.

I think this will become a recurring hot weather loop though. With a 6:00 Am start I'm shaded by various features except for the last 7 or 8 mi home
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Sep 2, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
You must have a GREAT saddle! Awesome job HK! Don't think my bottom could hold up to that thrashing!....or the legs, knees, lungs, etc etc
WTF kind of grades are those??????? Crazeeeeeeeee

Actually the saddle (that came with the bike) is apparently knott so great a fit for me. The last 5 or 6 days I was getting kind of sore. Gonna get a new one soon (will also save about 125 grams). Other than that, no issues - as long as I drank enough recovery beer. ;-)

The driveway I mentioned is the Tourist Club on Mt Tam, and the driveway is extremely steep and narrow (built in 1912). It was finally concrete-poured in the early 60's. Here's the Strava segment:

http://app.strava.com/segments/3945137

While I was focusing on high miles and minimal climbing, I still racked up 57,643' in the 2 weeks. In Marin there's no way around big climbing!
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Sep 2, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
Marin for vertical? Try southern Ecuador (where I am right now). Yesterday, a measly 47 kilometer day. But three, two to three thousand foot climbs. (and the decents were on this sh#t ass gravel and pot hole ¨highway¨. No sweet coasts down. Cramps in my hands and burnt a set of brake pads going down. Unforetunately my map doesn´t give such detail. I suffered big time and was doing a lot of walking by the end of the day. (mind you I´m peddeling a 100 lb rig with knobbyish tires.)

In the last 9 weeks I´ve racked up about 2500 kms. (not actually that much if you divide by the number of days. But, damn, some of those days brought tears to my eyes.) ha

Crossing into Peru tomorrow.

by the way, I´m in this little bitty border town (Zumba), and in this internet booth, 6 other people have logged onto Supertopo at some time or another. Small world.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Sep 2, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Wow, that sounds burly! And I cant imagine such steep descents on such a heavily laden bike. Very cool that you can check in from afar...

Marin for vertical?

Well, certainly nothing like what you described, but you can rack up some serious elevation without thinking about it. Here's one from a day I WAS thinking about it:

http://www.strava.com/activities/67653235#

I think I might have posted this before; if so i guess I'm milking it for all it's worth! ;-)
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Zumba


Well I guess you got your workout.

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Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Yup, i'm thinking I remember the quad Dipsea, the the two-times I ran it, as being in the same leaque as grand canyon rim to rim...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Whoa! What years did you run the Quad?

Edit: Looks like you did it in '95 and '96.

http://www.run100s.com/qd.htm

I did it in '99 and '00, with the last one effectively ending my running "career" - twisted my ankle badly while in 9th place at top of 3rd lap, yet continued on for the last 10 miles or so to the finish like a delusional idiot. The ego is a dangerous thing!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
Youch!
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Sep 3, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Hey what's the deal with Grand Canyon rim-to-rim? What was it like?

Sounds menacing. ;-)
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Sep 3, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
I ran 26.2 miles in the past 3 days. The number was a coincidence :)
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Sep 3, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
Dipsea Quad sounds very intense! I am excited to just run my own double, meaning out and back, without the pressure of racing, just me and the trees and fog and occasional wealthy thin Marin County resident...

Peter
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Sep 3, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
Here is the kind of run I do these days:

http://app.strava.com/activities/79812167

Be sure to click the instagram pic and read the caption (to the lower right of my profile pic).

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2013 - 09:48am PT
Dig it! Hardman
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Yesterday I ran the course for the Moab trail half marathon, and a little more (14 miles all told) to get back to my car. Yikes! That's a challenging course to try to go very fast on! That marathon may kill me, come November!

Then I got the call and guided a canyon...
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 14, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
^^^^^great Jay, that's not inspiring much confidence in me considering I'm a slow trail runner to begin with....is the most challenging part prior to the cutoff? I just gotta make it to the cutoff and I should be able to finish ... Looking for beta, Buddy. : )

Susan

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
The cutoff times look pretty generous!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 14, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
The cutoff times look pretty generous!

Yes, I thought so too, but considering the last soccer team I played on was the "Wheezers and Geezers" you might get my obsession with altitude, how many feet rise per mile, average grade etc. Damn it all Garmin...ruined my life....data analysis paralysis!

Anyway, hope to see you there! But I'm only doing the half.

Susan

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 17, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
DROP DEAD GORGEOUS BIKE RIDE DAY This beautiful fall day in Santa Cruz was perfecto! 33 miles, 2800' climbing. Through the mountains, to the coast and up to the university. I didn't want to stop...just wonderful day.



Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
Nice!

So yesterday I ran much of the second half of the Moab trail marathon... This is going to be my first hangdog marathon, I'm wiring each section, (training on roads gets boring) later this week ill get on the part I haven't done yet. The part I did this time went faster than the first half the other day, less scenic however.

It had its interesting parts though. I found out where some of the water draining out of Colorado is going. As anyone who has climbed at the Ice Cream Parlor will remember,there is a dip in the road near the hunter canyon campground, that sometimes has a little water to drive through. Yesterday, I got to that point to find standing water a distance of over one hundred feet across the road, with cars parked on either side and people floating across on air mattresses! Wtf? But, It with temps in the eighties, I could use the soak, and the adventure. I waded to chest deep! People were camped, on the other side, waiting for the water level to subside. One guy gave me a phone number to call his dad and tell him he'd be a day late for dinner. It felt wierd when I crossed back to see a dozen or so people resigned to an extra night camping.

Today I had to cross there for work, guiding @ ICP. The water level was several feet lower, but still the second most largest body of water I'd ever seen there!

I got a running start and plowed in, water splashing over the whole windshield of the full size ford E350 Van! To the delight of my client and copilot from Indiana, I might add! At the crag we were joined by some Scandinavian women who had swam it, and later by a team from Basalt Co, in a full size pickup; "Well, I've seen worse, but it did go over the hood!"

Later, driving out, the water had further receded, we saw a Subaru make it across and so, it was pronounced "Casual"!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 17, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
^^^^ WOWSA Know exactly where you mean....I've ridden and driven through there many times ... I wouldn't have thought more than ankle deep and some years barely a trickle....but to hear about people swimming it! Yikes!

I'm still tracking those topo maps of the course pretty carefully....I dunno...

Susan
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Sep 17, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
Jaybro,

can you elaborate on what the half marathon portion of the course is like. Is it steep, rocky, sandy, etc. Just trying to figure out how my next 5 weeks of training should be focused. Coming from sea level on the east coast!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Sep 17, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
Missed Sunday - something about being up for 22 hours on Saturday and baking my feet. Damn, the feet hurt on Monday. Today was much better with the cool weather. 8 miles of hills and thrills.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
Fat Paul, the first six or so miles are steep, sandy, And rocky. It's up hill in general, some short parts you might want to use your hands. It's a four wheel drive road that had me shaking my head in parts until I would get to the top of one of the steep sections and find huge bolt anchors several inches across that assume are for connecting to winch cables to pull rigs up what would otherwise be I possible terrain. For a full size vehicle (but I drive a Saab so what do I know?) some of it approaching third class. A cool hike! After the highest point it gets much easier and there Is sandy downhill for three or so miles. Before rejoins the Kane creek road there is fairly steep, technical trail, descending several hundred feet in the last half mile. I lost the trail several times and ended up doing fifth class moves (in five fingers! ) in spots. I'm sure it will be more straight fwd when they have the course marked. Once on the road, it's uphill for at least a half mile, up some switchbacks, etc. another couple miles down a rocky road get you back to the start .

I dont know how you're gonna train at sea level, but I'd say run every hill you can find! It was pretty warm, 80's, when I ran it, and I don't deal well with heat. So that probablly made it seem worse, than it really was. It'll be cooler in November!
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Sep 18, 2013 - 11:49pm PT
Thanks Jay,

Been running hills all summer in the heat. Will continue with my current program. Much thanks.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 19, 2013 - 12:42am PT
Think I'm coming with this rig, Jay


Susan
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Sep 19, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
3 mile run
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
Yesterday 9/18
3 sets each
    barbell rows
    one arm dumbbell rows
--incline push up/ dumbbell flies superset
    dumbbell shoulder shrugs

1 mile run
3 mile speed walk with dog
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Sep 19, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Roller ski level 3 intervals in St. Louis, Forest Park. Not used to training with such humidity! Clothes were soaked, like I jumped in the lake...opted for taxi back to hotel rather than dripping all over the Metro.

Here for 5 days with Bandaloop. Looking to trail run somewhere tomorrow.

Peter

Last evening rehearsal:
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
7 miles of dirt trail, 2000 ft of climbing and descending. trying to get back on the horse and run some distance after some time on the couch.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
12 mile mtb ride, mostly technical after five guiding pitches in the sun.
Nice ride Susan!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
18 mile fivefinger trailrun on Saturday
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Sep 23, 2013 - 04:44pm PT
Hiking/ running trails up around South Lake (Bishop area) this morning. Tried running them as best I could.... Panting...panting....altitude....argh Hiking, no problem with feeling I was getting enough oxygen...runnng...almost immediately ...dang it

Man, how do you do those Five Fingers. I shudder every time I see them. You must have great feet.

Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
I'm told I have very nice feet for a man.....

New current favorite Moab area trailrun!
In my continuing effort to hangdog the Moab trail marathon, I ran (indeed in 5fingers) a 6.7 mile loop, amasaback parking to amasaback parking, over the cliffhanger, and Jackson trails. Beautiful terrain, spectacular views, waist deep Kane creek crossing, who could ask for more?
The Jackson's trail deserves special note. This is an excellent, somewhat rough hiking/running trail, but it reminds me again of the high standard at which some people around here mtn bike! No way would I do that! Narrow loose trails, sheer drops, all kinds of scary shirt! I' dbe walking my bike/ giving it a ride!

Edit: I'm going to beef up my five fingers, I've been running / Guiding in Bikilia's, but I'm lusting after the spyridons, lots more sticky rubber and thicker sole. And they are on sale.

Edit 2: oh and yesterday I did a six mile mtb ride after guiding a wet cnyn... Someone has to keep the business going while the boss is puking up Castelton
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 25, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
All you country dudes with your fancy this and fancy that.

In the LA area we do our runnin' on asphalt, in cheap work boots , inexpensive dress slacks, and a 45 caliber pistol. ( and never run with back to traffic)

Last night:

2 mile run
3 mile speed walk with dog.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 25, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
This evening:
two miles = 8 laps around 1/4 mile oval track

3 mile speed walk with dog
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 26, 2013 - 12:53am PT
Currently hosting a lung/sinus oyster farm with quotas that preclude aerobic activity. Resting by climbing...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 28, 2013 - 12:18am PT
Wrong turn winner!


The 34-year-old eventually asked a course official how much farther to the finish line.

“Once I realized what I had done, I figured, well I’ll just run 20 miles and use it as a long run and call it a day,” she said.

That was until she noticed very few people ahead of her. She asked the official if it would count if she ran the full marathon. After a brief word with the race director, she learned her time would be honored.

So, onward she ran.

Having only run 20 miles prior to this race, Fitzmaurice said nearing the finish line was “surreal.”

“I just kept thinking you can do this, just get it done. The last couple miles were really tough,” she told the wire service.

With her final time of 3:11:48, Fitzmaurice won the women’s division, took 10th place overall and qualified for the Boston Marathon. The maximum time for Fitzmaurice to qualify for Boston was 3:35:00.

In addition to adrenaline pulling her through, she said her success, in part, was due to how fast she was running during the first half of the race.

“If I knew I was going to be running the full marathon I probably wouldn’t have ran so fast. So maybe it was a good thing,”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/27/woman-takes-wrong-turn-during-race-wins-and-qualifies-for-boston-marathon-by-accident/

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Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 28, 2013 - 01:46am PT
Yesterday 9/26

Walked 4 miles with dog

Ran 1 mile

5x50 yd sprints
5 x20 yd uphill sprints
10b4me

Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
Oct 5, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
been busy of late, but managed to do a twenty-eight mile road ride this morning.
need to get back at it.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Oct 5, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
Thurs. 10/3

2 mile run
5x50 yd. sprints

2 mile dog walk
L

climber
California dreamin' on the farside of the world..
Oct 8, 2013 - 10:36am PT
Can't resist being 1500.

3 mile run up Bald Mountain in Harriman State Park, coughed up a lung, then 3 mile much-faster-run down Bald Mountain.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Oct 8, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
10/7
2 mile run (8 laps oval track)
3 mile speed walk
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Oct 8, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
14 races so far this year.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
15, or so ( electronics crapped out on me) fivefinger miles down the Lockhart cnyn trail.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Oct 8, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
Have to take a day off. Hate it.
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 8, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
One quick way to get an aerobic workout. Get in a swimming pool that is at least 6 ft. deep. Then stand in place, and do "hundred yard dashes" i.e. pump your arms and legs as fast as you can for 30 seconds or so, until you feel spent. Then rest about 10-15 seconds and repeat; do this eight times; it's a Tabata routine, but extremely low impact. Intense intervals with very short rest is much more effective than long runs and bike rides, per the amount of time put in.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Oct 8, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
Finished a "high volume week". Tuesday NIAD with Eric Perlman...got our money's worth out of in-a-day, clocking in at 23 hours 32 minutes! Good chance Eric at 63 is oldest to do this, and with me at 51 we have an impressive combined age of 114. Kudos to Eric!

For me this was a test of the benefits of a lot of aerobic base and muscular endurance work over the summer, without much climbing. Felt pretty good overall.

Roller skied the Bay trail from Berkeley to pt. richmond and back Saturday, very fun, then Sunday ran a double Dipsea. In hindsight this run deserved a rest day before, but it went well, super cool run!

About to start snowing on Donner Summit...hope to get something in tomorrow if it isn't a blizzard...

Peter

Very cool photo by Kristal Leonard pro park photographer of the milky way and the action on the Nose last Tuesday. Brightest light at Camp 5 is mine at about 10:45...4 lights above are two of the 5 teams that did NIAD that day!

Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Oct 9, 2013 - 01:27am PT
Good work on the NAID Peter. I'm up in Skaha taking a fun break from XC/Enduro type stuff. I'll keep you posted if there are any good events up in the WA/BC area this winter.

Todd
10b4me

Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
Oct 9, 2013 - 01:41am PT
neat photo Peter
TFPU
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Oct 10, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
Uh oh....bad ending to a great ride...pulled into my driveway and cleat wouldn't come out. Sometimes I think I get mud on the cleat and it gets "stuccoed" in.

Some people have double chins, I know have a double left knee


After an hour of icing it doesn't seem to going down 😧
Susan
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
10/9

2 mile run
10 x 20yd uphill sprints (in rain and it felt good, first rain in LA after months of sweltering)
3mile speed walk with dog
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Oct 11, 2013 - 10:36am PT
Three day break from training with 40 mile thru hike on the AT in Conn & Mass.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Oct 11, 2013 - 11:52am PT
Fat Paul - I bet that hike was gorgeous. I miss NE in the fall. I ran in CT back in September while visiting. The smell of the wild grapes ripening in the sun was fabulous - another element of home that I miss.

Ran 8 miles yesterday. Twinges today. I am nursing hard/easy days for another few days. You can't rest your way to glory for the longer races, and I signed up for a couple in late October and early November. If I get past this weekend's long run, tapering can begin. Want to be both fit and healthy for the Gorge Half Marathon and the Dirty Girls 10 mile runs coming up. Co-worker is putting together a team for a December Half Marathon in a part of Portland that should be more scenic. That should complete the bridge between rock climbing and skiing seasons.
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Oct 22, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
Seamstress, had a wonderful jaunt through the Housatonic Valley on the AT. The ridges were washed in color and the weather perfect! It's incredible how that trail keeps giving around every bend.

Does anyone want to meet up on Thursday 10/31 to run the start of the Moab trail marathon course? I expect to roll into Moab around 12:30 and plan to run some of the start and/or finish. Also bringing my rack to climb during my stay. Interested in doing the Kors-Ingalls on Castletown Tower and a couple days at Wall Street. Open for anything within my limits. Will be departing Moab the afternoon of 11/8.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Oct 24, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
Last Saturday I worked out in the gym for four hours. Lifted 80,000 pounds of weights. All barbells, no machines except for the calf raise and seated calf raise machines.

My arms did not play golf well on the following Monday.

But my tennis was fine on Tuesday.

Lifting barbells is a lot of fun. It is surprising how a wimp like me can work up to a fair amount of weight.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Oct 29, 2013 - 11:42am PT
On October 19th I logged in 18 miles, my longest run since having back surgery in 2007.

I'm at 1,377 miles for 2013. On course to run first ½ marathon Nov. 9th (goal is sub 8:00/mile pace) since 1986.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Oct 29, 2013 - 11:51am PT
Been staying jointedly fit in the gym so far this fall so I can get my aerobic on nicely this winter.

But,...

I got in a solid 3 hour day on the trail-moto on Sunday. 2 of those hours I was heart-zoning hard with a mild body pump whilst covering hella techy singletrack. It has been years since I have been as worked as I was yesterday all from a damn moto.

Good to see/read about folks out gettin' there complimentary activities on and staying fit!! Very important as we approach our geezer years for our body as well as mental stimulation for our deft execution of our endeavors.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Oct 29, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
When does geezerhood start?

I wish I could run on something but asphalt. Weird how that works. I can run up any paved hill but walk up my slightly inclined gravel driveway.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Oct 29, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
When does geezerhood start?

When was the first time you heard your parents' words come out your mouth?
Has nothing to do with physical prowess. State of mind.

Susan
lucander

Trad climber
Shawangunks, New York
Oct 30, 2013 - 12:08am PT
You folks seem like fitness nazis: what do you think an idea vo2 max is for climbing? Or is that irrelevant?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 08:25am PT
60ml/kilo and up
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 1, 2013 - 09:35am PT
Max VO² doesn't play into such "work" as climbing unless you are running up the rock. It is more relevant to exercise like running, cycling, walking, XCC skiing or some steady state exercise.

Jaybro, 60ml/kg/min represents numbers related to the max VO² of a highly conditioned athlete performing aerobic exercise in his or her prime years.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2013 - 07:22pm PT
Like long moderate ( say Steck Salathe etc) solos or mtneering.

I assumed "idea" meant ideal. My bad.

I'm sure Ueli's ratio is higher than that.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 1, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
Courtyard Wash in Moab. Long, but not technical with a lovely closing ride through Arches. I am frustrated about how slow I am on a mountain bike. It's amazing I can climb anything with my speed dropping so low.
Oh well....keep cranking.

Susan
Edit: 26 miles
storer

Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
Nov 1, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Just turned 70 and trying to beat the "scientifically-established" 10%/decade VO2 max decline. My usual workout is to walk across the street and hike up Apex Pk. at at least 2k ft/ hr. It's 1300' up. BTW that's 1.3 miles at 15% in 30 min on the treadmill. Treadmill good too because there's no knee jamming downhill to suffer. So I mix 'em up. Also Lookout Mt on bike mixed in. Same 1300'. Smooth pavement, few cars (weekdays, see I'm retired) . Going to soon start adding skinning up first run at Loveland...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 1, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
New bike is showing up Monday just in time for the time change and the end of commuting for a few months.

Riding to work in the dark is relaxing, completive.

Coming home in the dark,

darn near suicidal!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 2, 2013 - 12:09am PT
Did OK for 12 of the 13.1 miles in the Gorge 1/2 Marathon last weekend. Negative splits - nice!!! The rain held off until afternoon, and we were treated to fabulous views of Cascade choss. The last three miles were steeply downhill, and I flew through 2 of them. Then.....creak. Struggled with some soreness this entire week. That's the difference between being ready to race and ready to run.

Next weekend in the Down and Dirty 10.5 miles trail run. Location is the new vineyard. Hope to get more mileage in this weekend and the beginning of the week. How ever did I manage to race every weekend for years???
raymond phule

climber
Nov 2, 2013 - 04:28am PT

Jaybro, 60ml/kg/min represents numbers related to the max VO² of a highly conditioned athlete performing aerobic exercise in his or her prime years.

60 is pretty good but the top athletes in endurance sports have 80-90ml/kg/min so I don't think I agree with what you say.

My guess is that 60 is quite common among good climbers that climb long routes fast and that people like Uli has a much higher VO2 max.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 2, 2013 - 10:48am PT
60 is pretty good but the top athletes in endurance sports have 80-90ml/kg/min so I don't think I agree with what you say.

Not agreeing is alright with me; so no problem there. For the sake of the discussion I will explain further. 60ml/(kg · min) is an average number for highly conditioned athletes. It was not meant to represent those of elite athletes.

High max VO² are not prerequisites for performance in endurance sports nor absolute indicators of performance in endurance sports.

I've never considered myself an elite athlete (far from it); however BITD my max VO² was 75ml/(kg · min). I was highly conditioned with a body fat % of 5.6; but certainly not an "elite" runner.

The highest recorded max VO²'s are 94ml/(kg · min) for a male and
77ml/(kg · min) for a female; both were competitive cross country skiers.
(Textbook of Work Physiology Åstrand, Rodahl, Dahl & Stromme)

In an activity such as climbing (more so than walking or running), O² uptake potential related to body weight is more relevant than liter per minute.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 7, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
I love looking at the satellite images of my bike rides. Living in Santa Cruz the sat images are always so green. Currently in Moab, of course, very different.
Today's ride out by Monitor and Merrimac. The long straight line is, oh yeah, geez wiz, forgot to turn off the GPS unit when I got in the car. Seeing my stats as max speed of 62mph gave me a "Wow"...for just a sec.


Susan
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Running ½ marathon tomorrow, no expectations. First one in 26 years.

It is fun to see GPS report I'm running 60mph when I leave my watch on.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
Intervals on 1/4 mile oval track:

1 mile speed walk home to track
I mile run
I mile speed walk/eighth mile sprint
I/2 mile run
I/2 mile speed walk/eighth mile sprint
1/4 mile run
1/4 mile speed walk/ stiff-.leg hill walk (walking bent over like stretching hamstrings but walking up short length steep hill)
1 mile speed walk home
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 10, 2013 - 08:43am PT
½ Marathon: I came out too fast (as always) 7:46 pace for the first 10k's... then it became a strain.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Nov 10, 2013 - 09:09am PT
Good job, Tobia!

It takes a lot of discipline to hold back at the beginning of organized events. But, whenever you can do it you will be pleased with your times . . .
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 10, 2013 - 09:17am PT
meh, I got seeded in a higher corral last year in a 10k, barreled out too fast, slowed down on the big hill around 3 miles and ended up with a huge positive split, but also a huge PR.

Nice time on the Half!^

Put down my standard base week this past. Six days @ 5 miles plus cycling. Getting back to normal after the back to back 20 mile trail run and back packing trip in the dacks.

.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 10, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
Appreciate that john and reeotch. It was fun, once it was over.
I've spent a few years coaching XCC and others about running. I just don't lead by example and I really thought I could hold that pace or close to it for the whole distance, not quite there.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Nov 12, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
Paced a friend at the Rio Del lago 100 miler this weekend. He finished in 27 hours 3 minutes (Way to go Mick K) Always fun running a 50K in the dark.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Nov 12, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
11/11/13
Killer weight and aerobic workout (I normally don't do weights and aerobics on same day but WTF I felt strong)

3x 10 alternate delt raises
3x10 standing Arnold presses
3x10 elbow flies
3x10 shoulder rows

1 mile speed walk from home to 1/4 mile oval track
Intervals:
1 mile run
I mile speed walk with 4x1/8 mile sprints
1/2 mile run
3 x 20 yd uphill sprints
2x 1/8 mile backward jogs
1/2 mile speed walk
2 x 1/8 mile sprints
1 mile speed walk

1 mile speed walk home.
adrian korosec

climber
Tucson
Nov 12, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
7.23 miles in 00:52:16
5 x (1000m at 10K pace) with 2 minute jog recovery
Tucson Marathon in < 4 weeks. Oh boy
Mick K

climber
Northern Sierra
Nov 12, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
100.9 miles 27 hours 3 minutes.

Thanks for the pacing through the night Atch, couldn't have done it without you.

If anyone wants to know: Ultra running is like climbing in that it has all the suffering but none of the climbing.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Nov 12, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
Congrats on the Ultra. ^^^^^^^^^^
Props to both runners.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 12, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
I'm an ultra wimp. Congrats to the pacer and the pacee.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 12, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
Congrats on the ultra.....I hope do complete one next year and have bucked down now.

Very nice "Down and Dirty" 10.5 mile logging road race this past weekend. Killer 4 mile hill. Sore, but not as sore as the 1/2 marathon 2 weeks ago. People aren't pointing and laughing at the way I walk now. Need to sign up for a December event to keep this train rolling....
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Latitute 33
Nov 19, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
Got a new phone and have signed up for Strava... Wow, it really helps me push myself to ride more and to push my pace (perhaps too much) ... in order to beat prior times and climb the ranks of other riders' best times.

I'm hoping to get in shape enough to complete a long (56+ mile) Mt. Bike race in April -- with some degree of aplomb. Last time I did it was in 1998, but I doubt that I'll beat my prior times, being 14 years older.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 19, 2013 - 10:00pm PT
I'm hoping to get in shape enough to complete a long (56+ mile) Mt. Bike race in April

How do you define masochist? ^^^^^^^. A 56 mile mountain bike race?????? Oh oh oh
Good luck to ya!
Susan
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Nov 19, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
I was wondering about doing the Seattle Half-Marathon on crutches in 2 weeks. I did my first serious workout 2 days ago and went pretty hard for an hour. I need to get to the track and see how fast I can do a mile. I broke an ankle 1 month ago!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Nov 19, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
I was wondering about doing the Seattle Half-Marathon on crutches in 2 weeks. I did my first serious workout 2 days ago and went pretty hard for an hour. I need to get to the track and see how fast I can do a mile. I broke an ankle 1 month ago!

Wait till next year and you can legally stoke up and float your way through...
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Nov 19, 2013 - 10:25pm PT
I thought it was already legal! I don't want to have to break my ankle again next year!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Nov 19, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
I thought it was already legal! I don't want to have to break my ankle again next year!

Break the other one!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Nov 19, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Will have to think about that. Might be worth it to get a record.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
I spent last week doing aerobic trail maintenance, and I'm still in recovery mode.....
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Nov 20, 2013 - 12:56am PT
just did "an" aerobic trip to the kitchen for oreo cookies, apple
pie,, and a coke zero...anyone?
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Nov 20, 2013 - 11:35pm PT

Good dirty fun this past weekend!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 21, 2013 - 01:08am PT
I think there is some mockery going on here....If you think this is merely narcissm - saying your goals out loud helps keep you motivated. At least that works for me. My little goals seem outrageous to some and laughably pedestrian to others.

Psyched to get me orthotics replaced - after 8 years and wearing them very thin. Managed to run 5 without getting blisters. Old shoes and footbeds for 8 miles today. Hope the break-in period continues to go well.

This is the hardest time of the year for me. There just doesn't seem to be enough daylight. Keep showing me how to put one foot in front of the other.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Nov 22, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
Way to GO Mick! What were your recovery days like?
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 27, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
My last MTB ride this season in Moab (boo hoo) Flat Pass, anything but. Probably some of the hardest 10 miles MTB I've ever done. (With segments called "Metal Masher" I should have known)
First ride back in Santa Cruz

I love the contrast in geography.

Susan


Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Nov 29, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Susan, I figured you would get a kick out of this ride a guy uploaded to Strava yesterday:



Here's the link to the Strava page:

http://www.strava.com/activities/97090517
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 29, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
Oh thanks HK...I DO love it. That is really detailed. I saw one that was a heart on some TV ad. It's pretty interesting how much climbing he got in.
It must be interesting to plan it out.
I use Strava also (gadget whore here) but I frequently lose the tracks because my iPhone powers down before I finish.
THANKS, Susan
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Dec 14, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
7.5 miles on the snowy Devil's Canyon loop trail punctuated with a snow Cl 4 chimney and low fifth clean snow-free offwidth. 16 degrees and 2.5 hours
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Dec 14, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
I passed on the idea of doing the Seattle half-marathon on crutches. I did figure out a way to rig my climbing harness to the crutches though!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2013 - 10:33pm PT
Moab rim hike 6.2 miles. Way too snowy to run, well okay not impossible, I'm a wimp...
3-6 miles hikes every day, since Monday after thanksgiving.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
15 mi hill ride today

LSD ride tomorrow
salad

Big Wall climber
Dec 21, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
got of my duff and got through a slow, hilly 13 mile run
10b4me

Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
Dec 21, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
was able to get in a twenty seven mile road ride this morning.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Dec 21, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
Just got done speed walking about 6 miles. Put a roast in the pot on low and when I got back it was tender and the added herbs were smelling up the neighborhood.
One way to celebrate the first day of winter.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Dec 21, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
I lifted 106,000 pounds of weights in four hours in the gym the day before Thanksgiving, 2013. All free weights. No machines except for the calf raise and seated calf raise machines. If you don't lift weights it may be difficult to relate to the experience. I weigh about 168 pounds. It took me a year to work up to this amount. I was kinda sore all over the next day.

I have noticed that big days in the gym do wonders for my endurance, after a week of recovery. About two weeks later I swam a 2,000 yard IM comfortably without resting. My previous best IM was only 1,000 yards. Still, I am as slow as a turtle at age 59.

Been playing quite a bit of tennis since then. It is surprisingly demanding of my legs. I'm not very good at it though. It is so spontaneous and requires such a wide variety of quick responses to stay in the game. It is a ton of fun. Not like 53 tons in the gym.
sempervirens

climber
Dec 23, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Tahoe people, Does anyone have a recent conditions report for groomed striding and skating at Tahoe Donner, Royal Gorge, or that place near Tahoe City (forget its name right now)?
Thanks.

I've been scraping my striding skis over rocks, grass and dirt for the past 2 weeks here in Plumas County. We've got about half of 0.1 metric millimeters of snow here!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Dec 27, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
9 miles yesterday, ran 7 today. Some races scheduled. The lottery is open for the ESB run up, I'm getting a little old for this kind of carnage.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2014 - 03:00am PT
So far three hikes two snowshoes in the new year. Kind of a slow start.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jan 11, 2014 - 11:04am PT
10k race in Central Park this morning. Raining with ice under the water on the big hill. A little backsliding. Happy with the race I ran. Pain all the way. Stopped when I stopped so it's good.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Jan 11, 2014 - 11:06am PT
I did 100 burpees and I vacuumed. is that cardio?
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Jan 11, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
Congrats on the 100 burpees. I fail at burpees. I just can't make the commitment. Some kind of psychological barrier. Them and kettle balls.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 11, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
All it's been is biking, hiking, running. Got a little skiing in over in Europe when visiting my son, some skiing very early on in Colorado...but looking like not much more until we head north to Bridger Bowl.
Tis a slow aerobic start.
Susan
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jan 11, 2014 - 03:30pm PT
Skated 10 miles on a groomed snow machine road @32f and lightly sprinkling. It was nice and upper-bodily.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2014 - 07:30pm PT
A brisk 6.6 mile snow jog with 1000' elevation gain
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jan 14, 2014 - 01:10pm PT
I've done close to no exercise for months (except for a snow climb of an Italian peak during Christmas vacation).

This morning I decided enough is enough, and did a short run around the hill where I live. Nothing to brag about, but it's a start.
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jan 14, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
25k on the SiSSyStix followed by a full day of powder and riding lifts. Winter came and went in a week! I'll be road biking tomorrow?!?!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 14, 2014 - 02:06pm PT
Yesterday 1/13/14

--barbell curls
--concentration curls
--reverse barbell curls
--barbell wrist curls
--dumbbell reverse wrist curls

2 mile run (8 laps 1/4 mile oval track)
3 mile speed walk with dog
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 14, 2014 - 04:11pm PT
Kept it going during the holidays despite little pains. Came home and did a big run - time to limp. Forced myself to do nothing for 5 days. This caused me to lose my mind. Back to it this week. Today I explored a new area, did not get lost, and am not limping. Happy dance!!
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jan 14, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
Forced myself to do nothing for 5 days. This caused me to lose my mind.

Had something like this happen 5 or so years ago and an old girlfriend introduced me to meditation. I found my mind and me a little differently after a some time practicing meditation for 20' in the morning. I used to get anxious and felt like I had to be doing something and whatnot. What I guess I needed to do was to think differently or gain awareness.

Sonic

Trad climber
Boulder, Co
Jan 14, 2014 - 06:17pm PT
After being sick for about 2.5 weeks Im slowly building back up speed. Started working out at the Alpine Training Center in Boulder. Connie surely kicks ass
weezy

climber
Jan 15, 2014 - 11:31am PT
welp...i just registered for the 2014 Enchilada Enduro. time to cut the BS and get on a proper training regimen. never raced before, yikes!
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Jan 15, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
running around 25 to 30 per week right now, but slowly ramping up for Zion 100 in April!
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jan 15, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
Nice weezy!

Which one's you hitting? What kind of training are you doing?

Edit: Is it on the whole enchilada, LaSals->Moab?
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 15, 2014 - 04:13pm PT
My problem is that I enjoy eating 55 miles per week's worth of food and need the jaunts in nature to be a civil human being. Forced is the right word to pick for no aerobic activity days.

GOing out in an hour - can't wait.
salad

Big Wall climber
Feb 1, 2014 - 05:13pm PT
scratched out a 16 mile run this morning before 7:30am. Last three were pure desire to get the # I set out to do and slow as hell, but hey, I finished. Then my boy and I biked 8 (4 each way) to Baskin Robbins.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2014 - 05:20pm PT
Nice Salad!


A little over a hundred miles into the new years or me. I've been lagging. Mostly hiking, biking, snowshoeing and xcskiing, but tomorrow a rail run!, I swear!
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Feb 1, 2014 - 07:04pm PT
five miles of pavement in 31.5 minutes (with an RDPA: rez dog pull-assist)
weezy

climber
Feb 1, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
Which one's you hitting? What kind of training are you doing?

cragar, i'm only doing the enchilada enduro. been trying to do it the last couple of years but didn't register in time.

it's not until august so i'm just trying to maintain a base and not get injured. started doing some weight training but i don't really have a set workout yet. i found this guy james wilson's youtube channel that has a bunch of mtb specific weight training. but mostly i'm just doing the race for fun with the main goal being to not get hurt.

edit: yes this is the whole enchilada ride that goes from burro pass in the la sals down to the colorado river.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 1, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
2 mile run (8 laps 1/4 mile oval track)

5 x50 yd hill sprints
5 x 50 yd flat sprints
2 mile bike
2 mile speed walk
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:20pm PT
Went on a search today for a hill route that wasn't suicidal.

You'd think with the San Gabriels for a backstop that would be easy, but although the MTBing is excellent most of the roads would be suicidal without driving to a trail-head first. I tend to bike from the house.

Today's exploration of the Whittier Hills was 27 mi 1,800 ft of gain with two fun 40mph downhills with good bike lanes.

I did try a shortcut for about three or four miles what turned out to be a really good single track, but it did have a couple of places I had to walk. First time I've had the cyclocross bike off pavement and the disc brakes got a good workout coming down the switchbacks.

Problem was more the geometry putting my weight too far forward to get traction than lack of lower gears.

I'll be back with the MTB!

Lots more to do in the same area.

weezy

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:59pm PT
nice 13.4 mile, 1700' pre-game ride today out to pothole arch on me push bike.


feels good man.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 7, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
Not so aerobic today, more likely technical...
Started Ice Skating lessons today to try to fast track to get back, or close to, how I used to be able to skate.
Fun!

Susan
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Feb 7, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
During the last year or so I've focused more on high-intensity interval training and less on long aerobic rides. Gotta say it has been a real eye opener on sustaining muscle while upping endurance all in half the time expended.

I was getting burned out on 4 hour knuckle dragging rides and after fine tuning HIIT training and learning how too condense it down to 20 to 40 minutes, endurance, strength, and metabolism has been maxing out the morning wood scales.

Anyone else mixing up HIIT workouts with long term rides/runs?


Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 7, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
Leisurely 5 mile speed walk with dog.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 7, 2014 - 11:13pm PT
Anyone else mixing up HIIT workouts with long term rides/runs?
Yes, but the older I'm gotten the more challenging the HIIT component is.... Trying to avoid that "geez, I'm going to die. here. right. now". A lot more monitoring heart rate and zones than ever before. If I get a good sequence and sustain a pattern of aerobic/HITT I feel a much greater sense of well being; overall strength and endurance.
Susan
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Feb 7, 2014 - 11:36pm PT
The most important element in a training regime is enjoying the process and looking forward to getting out to do it. The plan can be well considered but if it isn't fun, it ain't getting done...

... great for all of you for getting out and striving to improve fitness!

It is the middle of the Nordic skiing season in the Bellingham area and the conditions have been awesome at the nearby areas. Nordic skiing is great fun and allows huge amounts of food to be consumed. Intervals, overdistance, races, and fun skis with friends make for a fine winter.
salad

Big Wall climber
Feb 10, 2014 - 12:04pm PT
got in a 20 mile run saturday. last few were pathetic. time to start getting out mid week i think.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Feb 10, 2014 - 12:19pm PT
50K race with 5500 feet of climbing and descending on Saturday in driving rain. Whiskey on the couch for recovery on sunday.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
Nice!!
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Feb 12, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz

Feb 7, 2014 - 08:13pm PT

Yes, but the older I'm gotten the more challenging the HIIT component is.... Trying to avoid that "geez, I'm going to die. here. right. now". A lot more monitoring heart rate and zones than ever before. If I get a good sequence and sustain a pattern of aerobic/HITT I feel a much greater sense of well being; overall strength and endurance.

Susan


I couldn't imagine doing HIIT without a HR monitor and a timer.

Been seeing big gains these past few months if I do it 3 to 4 times a week using 1 minute at 90% of max then 2 minutes of rest at 40 to 60% anywhere for 10 minute to 20 minute intervals.

This helps me from dropping back into bad habits of overtraining and avoiding metabolic damage, plus I have a lot more free time to do other stuff instead of spending 15 to 20 hours a week on cardio.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 12, 2014 - 10:15pm PT
Nice points Goat. I've had every major cardiac test imaginable and they can find no "problem". However I continually have issues with crashing heart rate after load. I can get it up to 90% but as soon as I back off it drops way back thereby struggling to keep it at the 40 to 60% level. It's frustrating because of course I can't sustain at 90%. And it drops back to almost at rest levels, compromising what I feel is an optimal workout. Luckily I'm retired and have plenty of time for sustained aerobic workouts but then of course that's always extensive and prolonged use of joints and tendons which can create its own issues.
Susan
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 12, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
Fast 1 mile run(4 quarter mile ovals)

5x50yd uphill sprints.

Been slacking on weights this month---that's gotta change.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2014 - 08:47am PT
2 half marathon trail runs in February so far, but now climbing season has started!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 15, 2014 - 01:05am PT
Today
--3 sets each
Barbell curls
Concentration curls
Reverse barbell curls
Dumbbell wrist curls

2 mile run( 8x 1/4 mile ovals)
5x 50 yd uphill sprints
2 mile speed walk with dog

Good workout. Felt strong afterwards.Hardly sore.
bbbeans

Trad climber
asheville, nc
Feb 17, 2014 - 09:51am PT
ran 12 miles somewhere in the neighborhood of 1:30 yesterday. 1500 feet of elevation change. one of my proudest runs yet.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2014 - 09:50pm PT
Seven mile trail run, out and back, on the Moab rim trail. Beautiful! It's great to live somewhere where both the hard off width and trail runnings seasons are underway and optimal in February!
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Feb 18, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
6 miles Saturday, 11 Sunday, 11 Monday. Rinse and repeat
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Feb 19, 2014 - 01:42am PT
... where both the hard off width and trail runnings seasons are underway and optimal in February!
Yosemite if one wants.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 19, 2014 - 02:05am PT
3 sets each
Alternate side/lateral dumbbell raises
Upright barbell rows/incline push-up super set
Overhead Arnold presses/ incline push-up super set

2 mile run
5x50 yd uphill sprints
2 mile dog walk
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2014 - 05:54pm PT
13.37 mile trail run Moab rim out and back - like my last entry but farther. 71° when I got back to my car, felt borderline hot on the trail, beautiful though!
salad

Big Wall climber
Feb 25, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
nice work everyone. my knee tendonitis is back (gasp). exasperated by skiing 5 outta 7 days in park city last week. kinda bummed, wanted to do a long run this weekend. not sure at this point.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Feb 25, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
Nice Jaybro!

50K trail ultra on Saturday (Fourmidible 50) with around 6000 feet of climbing. Legs still sore on Tuesday...
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 25, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
Still running - getting ready for that 50K on Mt. St. Helens in September.

Out of the blue an old friend contacts me with "I'm doing Cycle Oregon. Why don't you join us?" Thought about it for 10 nanoseconds as I watched the event filling up fast. Yikes - signed up that day.

OK - I haven't really biked in 20 years. I don't even have an operational bike. I am going to bike 489 miles in 7 days including over 30,000' gain. This starts 12 hours after my first ultra-marathon which follows Hood to Coast just 1 or 2 weeks before. Another reality check - I haven't completed a marathon in 3 years (though I used to run 2 - 4 per year when I had two good knees). This will be very interesting.

I'm furiously spinning away for a couple of sessions per week in the living room now. Will buy a bike in a couple of weeks. Pray for me.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 25, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
Taking a rest due to groin muscle pull acquired from over-zealous sprinting routine.

The higher one lifts the legs while running , such as sprinting or uphill running, the greater the possibility of groin muscle problems.
But this is also true of extreme lateral movements ----hockey players are prone to groin injury, for instance.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Way to go seamstress!
You too, Atch, and mend, salad, like sully did!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2014 - 10:31am PT
Fourteen mile five finger trail run yesterday. From my place in town along the river to the Moab rim trailhead then up. Took a road ip there I hadn't been on before to the rim over look. Weather moved in, I had extra upper body layers but just running shorts below windy and cold enough to snow for a little while. Sunny by the time I got home.

Full value!

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 4, 2014 - 12:29am PT
I can't believe no one is checking in, inspiring me...

My bike is in!!!!! Can't wait to pick it up. The weather will be sub-optimal this weekend, but I can't wait.

In the meantime, running on flat land this week trying to keep a grouchy achilles from wrecking my future plans. It will be in the 70's next week, and an evening bike ride should be possible after work.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 4, 2014 - 12:55am PT
Don't despair, lots of XC ski stuff continues up here as the last real race of the season approaches. 30k skate event at Whistler is on Saturday and then touring/climbing season revs up. Lots of skiing, roller skiing, ski striding, running, and beer drinking seem to be the best formula.

I hope you can master that achilles. There sometimes is an increased use of the calf muscles for propulsion as the core and upper-leg get neglected in a running stride. Many runners I know have the power in their calves to pop some power or lengthen their strides but eventually they develop achilles issues.

Good luck and find your answer.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Apr 4, 2014 - 03:47am PT
Running a 10k in England Sunday. No time to train this week but 43 miles last week. #sogonnadie
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Apr 4, 2014 - 07:35am PT
Best xc skiing of the year this past few days, perfect wintery snow, perfect grooming, many trails opened for the first time...Todd, have a great race, ski like the wind! Last one for us is this Sunday, Mammoth Marathon 42k, should be perfect conditions. Here's a photo from the Gold Rush few weeks ago, six laps, pretty hard.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 4, 2014 - 10:24am PT
Peter, have a ton of fun, ski fast, and say howdy to the usual suspects.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Apr 4, 2014 - 10:27am PT
Question for you xc types. Have you ever trained on a ski erg?
salad

Big Wall climber
Apr 4, 2014 - 12:53pm PT
I have a 50k tomorrow. I Haven't run or trained since a knee issue reared its head back in early February. Made it worse skiing in Feb.

Not sure if I am going to even show up, but might just go out and hike as much of it as i can. Is a no show worse than a DNF? I've never DNF'd and don't really want to start that trend.
sempervirens

climber
Apr 4, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
Has anyone else read "Born to Run"? It focuses on running, specifically, the Tarahumara indians of Copper Canyon in Mexico. There's interesting discussion of running styles and how modern running shoes cause injuries by allowing us to land on our heels. It's an easy fun read too.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 4, 2014 - 04:11pm PT
I "ran" by the bike shop today and made an appointment to get fitted on Tuesday. HOLY COW that bike is light. It will be a flying machine.

Forecast is ugly for the weekend. Will plow through the miles, keep it flat, do laps so I can quit if the achilles starts barking at me again.

I see I am missing the race at Whistler - we are going up to ski right after you leave. Sorry I can't cheer you an, be inspired to jump in, and make you look good in comparison.
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:46am PT
Took my splitboard out yesterday and did a couple of laps on a mellow slope for a total of about 3k elevation gain. Found some fresh and the views were nice.

Aplogies to the snowshoer I alarmed taking a corner on the hard and fast trail back to the car.


Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Apr 5, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
Nice to see people out and playing. I didn't meet my goal for 2013, as I had to stop running Nov. 17th.

At first I thought I had bursitis in the right knee, all the symptoms; but within a few weeks of no improvement, I believed I had a bit more of a problem. I had to wait until April 1st to find out, as that is when my medicare started. I've been uninsured for the past 3 years.

MRI shows that my meniscus is MIA in my knee, a little chunk here and there floating in the wrong places; apparently I've had bone on bone for awhile, I just never knew it. I never felt it until after running a ½ marathon Nov. 9th.

I had been compensating for problems in lower back and left leg with my right knee. In hindsight I knew my stride wasn't entirely comfortable; but with disc problems in L-4, L-5, nothing is comfortable.

I can't read the rest of the MRI since I'm no doctor and waiting until Monday for the doc to tell me. I'm kind of hoping he will have to do a knee replacement, as that means I will be able to run again. I was starting to bike some with the warmer weather, but have been told to stop for the time being. Hopefully I will be able to do something sometime in the near future, as I am not willing to give it up. It is medicine for the head.

Could be worse, I could have stepped on an IED.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Apr 5, 2014 - 03:24pm PT

Is a no show worse than a DNF? I've never DNF'd and don't really want to start that trend.


The big guise, will DnF or DnS and accept it as the breaks. Really can't help it sometimes. What they won't do, is run themselves into an injury situation and ruin their season.
salad

Big Wall climber
Apr 6, 2014 - 02:52am PT
well I took it easy and walked a lot at the end, but no DNF.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz CA
Apr 8, 2014 - 06:50pm PT
What was to be a strenuous 8 mile hike to Cone Peak and Twin Peak, south of Big Sur in the Ventana Wilderness turned into 10 hours for me as I managed to make some wrong turns near the end! But it all ended well as I found my way out ... eventually. Lesson learned....bring my handheld GPS not just my GPS watch... it was beautiful.
Susan


















storer

Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
Apr 8, 2014 - 07:15pm PT
I skied the lifts at Arapahoe Basin (aerobic nay) with 6" powder and the fewest people I have ever seen a a "major" ski area. Loveland Pass was closed (?) so maybe that's why. Then for aerobics I skated a puny 10 km at Frisco which felt like 20. I waxed best I could, CH8 + HF8 but I guess I needed deep, deep rilliing, eh?

Or kiss off the DH and get out on the tracks earlier.

Summary: It's been a fantasically great year here in Colorado for skiing but, although there will undoubtedly be many more powder days, I think it may be time to start thinking "bicycle" don't you think? At least for aerobic.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz CA
Apr 15, 2014 - 06:15pm PT
Best of Santa Cruz biking: Deep into the redwoods (UCSC onto Bonny Doon); down the coast, the board walk and the Yacht Harbor for beer and pizza.
2300 feet of climbing in the first 19 miles; 2900 total; 40 miles total; 1 beer and 2 slices of pizza. Tonight: 2 syllables: YO-GA.


Susan

Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 15, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
Finally the ski vacation is here. We started with three bluebird days at Whistler. What a tragedy - old snow, but blue skies. Running every other day in hopes of maintaining some fitness while nursing that stubborn achilles tenderness. The scheme is working. I'm skiing hard and the schilles has been nearly silent.

The next couple of days will be overcast. So we may take a day off from skiing and indulge in a rest day off the slopes. I'll use that day to run around the valley.

The signs of spring are strong. Does anyone else have trouble letting go of the snow play while diving into the summer fun? Two many toys need to go out and play, and not enough days to play.

mhay

climber
Bishop, CA
Apr 15, 2014 - 10:20pm PT
23 mile Papoose Flat loop in the northern Inyo Mtns on Saturday. Sierra in the distance.

Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 15, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
I can't get off the snow. With the fitness coming from a full season of XC skiing and blessed with a good snow touch, I tend to morph into touring and skiing for summits.

The meld into summer is helped when the pollen fouls the snow or the snowpack rots. Then I find my way onto the rock and play catch-up with tolerant friends.

Be smart with the achilles!

Check out Brandywine Falls.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz CA
Apr 27, 2014 - 12:36am PT
Wildflowers' Century down in Atascadero. Beautiful ride....but WINDY.
Another Century coming up this month! Really enjoying my biking this year.


Susan
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Apr 27, 2014 - 02:04am PT
Good work on the century! Food's pretty fun after that, eh?
coolrockclimberguy69

climber
Apr 27, 2014 - 10:05am PT
Did my pack test in 30:22! It's a three mile jog with a 45 lb weight belt to be completed in 45 minutes or less. Not a super fast time but if I'd have known that I was so close to coming in under 30 minutes I would've picked up the pace a bit.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Apr 27, 2014 - 10:28am PT
Four mile road race in Central Park this morning. Just over 38 minutes. Not great but considering the crowding, I'll take it.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz CA
Apr 27, 2014 - 11:50am PT
Good work on the century! Food's pretty fun after that, eh?
Thanks! The food is pretty good, before, during and after. One of the best spreads at every rest stop and lunch of all the rides I do. Plus their jerseys are always the best!
Susan
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 12, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
First big test last week. Actually rode the new bike. I am not loving breaking in my butt....then again, 30 miles for the first ride maight not have been the wisest choice.

Hit the trails for an 18 mile run in the mud. Many thanks to husband who met me at the halfway point with dry socks and a sandwich. I am serious about the late summer 50K.

Then climbed St. Helens on Mother's day. Back to back days - and the only price paid was time. I was slower on the climb. I expected that and was delighted to finish and able to walk normally today. Treated to parapentes display on the descent. That got people buzzing.

Monday is a day off, then modest aerobic training this week. Big double next weekend. Hope this training concept stolen from an ultra website workks.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 12, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
Swapped out the cyclocross tires for racing slicks Friday and did the SGRT from my house Saturday. 92 mi 16.5 mph average.

Bettered my Good Friday speed by a full 1 mph, even dealing with a bunch of traffic congestion from the Tour d' Long Beach at the half way mark.

It wasn't the tires, it was the training, and I finally got the dilution down correct on the fluid replenishment.

Sunday I shelled out the entry fee for my first road race late next month. (Bigring Century in OC)

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
May 12, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
It wasn't the tires, it was the training

Maybe, but lighter tyres and wheels give me an additional 1 - 2 mph which really adds up on a long day. I led the Midnight Run around Central Park this year on my Cyclocross bike blowing the whistle. Had the heavy City flatproof 32mms on. omg. Next time, I change out the wheels and tyres.

PRd Saturdays Half Marathon. Stoked on that, a 13 day streak of 5 - 7 milers each day paid off big time.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 12, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
I had some really light 35mm cyclocross race tires on it that had about all the tread worn off as well.

The big difference seems to be not getting knocked around as bad in crosswind gusts, and they do accelerate a bit faster.

Rolling resistance is about the same.

It was the 22mi after work "long way home" workout a couple of times a week and a once a week 40 mi ride with an altitude profile that looks like its giving me the middle finger that made the big difference.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 13, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Ran 1.3 miles, scrambled up a couple hundred vertical feet of steep dirt, played around on some limestone outcroppings, ran 1.25 miles back (gave out on the last 0.05 miles and walked it). I feel like hell, but pretty good considering it's my first time running in literally 5 years. And I have to get my CV system in shape so I don't croak backpacking out to Temple Crag in 4 weeks. Thank goodness I have my energetic cousin to play the rabbit to my tired old hound.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 13, 2014 - 11:12pm PT
3 sets each 10 reps
---barbell curls
---concentration curls
---barbell wrist curls
--- barbell reverse curls

2 mile run ( 8 laps 1/4 mile oval)
4x 50 yd uphill sprints
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 16, 2014 - 12:08am PT
Ran 2.4 miles in 21 minutes, without stopping. Improvement already! Guess I gotta run further next time.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 16, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
Here's a little formula from 1979 from a guy named George Myers who studied winning marathon times.

Based on his research he proposed the following allocation of time to the various segments. Sure hope they add up to 100.

0-5 - 18,75%
6-10 - 18.15
11-15 - 18.55%
16-20 - 19.25%
21-25 - 20.35%
26-Fin- 4.85%

I can't find my numbers, but in my best, which was 3:25, my percentages came out pretty close to George's recommendatons.

Anyone else have numbers? I'm going to look for multi-record holder Ed Whitlocks's numbers (2:54:48 at age 73) and check him out.


John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
May 16, 2014 - 02:17pm PT
I ran my fastest Half marathon ever Saturday, but paying for it in training volume this week. Barely broke 20 miles.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
May 23, 2014 - 02:20pm PT
I FFFFFF'ing DID IT! I made it up Bonny Doon Road which is a Category 2 climb for 3.5 miles without stopping. This has been a huge goal of mine this spring. I haven't been able to make it non stop and I finally did. At times I was cranking so slow I thought I would fall over but I pushed through. The whole ride from my house was about 26 miles and included 3200 climbing feet.
I. AM. SO. HAPPY. Yoga today. MUST.
Gotta upload it to my ST Strava group. Don't laugh at how slow I did it, just that I DID IT!

Susan
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 23, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
Congrats Susan!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 23, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
The splits for the marathon are about right - except for the last one which I think you mean 25 - finish. My best was 3:10. I did a bunch between 3:10 - 3:12. Getting through the first 15 miles in 1:45 was easy. Somewhere between 15 and 20 the real effort starts. We referred to the last 10K as the second half of the race. I generally held pace a tad longer and then slowed down more precipitously between 18 - 20. Move that % for 20 - 25 up over 20%, and that reflects my experience.

I'm going to run the Happy Girls Half Marathon this weekend. Looking forward to seeing those handsome male pacesetters. I haven't raced in months. The goal is to get in a good quality workout - do a total of 20 miles including the warm-up and cool-down. That keeps me on track with the 50K training plan. The hard part will be running the 8 on the next day - I want to climb and only log a couple miles instead. Let's see if I can be disciplined in this training program....
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 26, 2014 - 09:39pm PT
Did 105mi Saturday, with exactly the same average speed down to the hundredth. Talk about a statistical anomaly!

The plan for today was to do Baldy with 10 liters of ballast to be dumped on top to save the knees on the way down.

About 3/4 of the way to the Sierra Club hut the SB Co chopper started circling looking for "Jose and Jill" so I ended up dumping the ballast just in case I was gonna divert to going down one of the adjacent ridges. (turns out they walked out an hour or so later.)

The heel spurs must have grown since last time I had the boots on so just went to the hut and only got in 2200 ft of gain today.

There must have been 100 people up there today.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
May 27, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
This is why I love where I live. On today's ride I was in the mountains and then along some of the most beautiful beaches in Northern California.
Sunset Beach, Manresa, Sea Cliff, New Brighton, Capitola, and that's only the south and east part of Santa Cruz!
Beautiful Day!
Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2014 - 08:12pm PT
Beautiful, Susan!
I haven't been posting to this but I'm staying busy.

21 miles on the bke yesterday, and another ten today, plus a 5am jaunt up Ancient Art. One set of pull-ups and invert sit-ups with 20lb weight vest.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
May 27, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
I ran 6 miles today and 6, with the group Sunday. Two hours MTB in the woods Monday. I think I'm pretty well past the slump from the HM followed a week later by an 11 miler.

I'm really liking my Track Bike on the roads. The acceleration is good.

Two short course running races consecutive w/ends in June. So I need to squeeze in another LTR soon.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jun 3, 2014 - 08:23am PT
Trying to pack in as much aerobic as possible before being sailboat captive. A scatter shot yesterday...
A 5 miler mid pace street run, ice skating (minimal aerobic), swim, gym and then my beloved restorative yoga.
Now off for a "mini mountain challenge" bike ride. Hope I'm up for it.
Susan
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 9, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
Most excellent news, Moosedrool.

Still trying to balance the training requirements for several aerobic adventures. A nagging twinge in the schilles forced me to consider adding real rest - as opposed to a rest day from biking, filled with running or vice versa. Took Saturday off - conducting the final field day for our team's entry level rope rescue course.

Sunday morning was the long trail run. I am eager to do more of it at the site of the ultra I want to do in September. So I parked at June Lake, took off, remembered I forgot to put my parking pass in the window, and ran back to the car. No worries about how I would add the extra 2 miles I needed to get that total mileage up to 22 miles now.

Ran back up the June Lake Trail to the Loowit. The boulder hopping was a bit better than the last time - I went further before trail direction confusion set in. Rehearsing this part of the race a couple more times will be on the to-do list. Navigated across Chocolate Falls and up towards the Ptarmiga Trail. At 4,200', the trail disappeared under steep and deep snow. The transition zone was about 5 feet. Tree wells loomed that were easily 10' or more deeper. I didn't have a traction device for my feet. However the grabbing tree tops for support method allowed me to survive this section without taking a screamer. Felt like a confused monkey in a frozen forest. Lost buckets of time. The aerobic conditioning here was hyperventilation from fear.

Happily I made it to the Ptarmigan. Clearly moving on to Butte Camp was silly. I basked in the sun, desparately trying to dry my socks and feet, downed some trail food, and adopted a less snow covered plan. The Ptarmigan was in great shape (usually isn't the opening weekend for Climber's Bivvy). Continued running down the gravel road, then over to Red Rock Pass where the sounds of gun blasts sang out. Not happy about this. I am out of water. I stashed a water bottle in Red Rock Pass because that is where I planned to exit the trails. Tried to glide slightly into the pass and grabbed the water. Now the run continued over gravel and rugged asphalt roads back to my car at June Lake.

All those aching body parts cooperated with no fuss. I didn't have to shortchange the mileage. After preventative icing, jumped into newly cleaned hot tub with husband. Success. Hoping more more running, less snow, and less jogging next time.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jun 9, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
Been going slow the last week or two while my body adjusts to my version of the " Bulletproof Diet"
Managed to get in a mile running and some lite weight training today
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 16, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
Body needs fuel, or it won't go very fast.

Easier weekend - 10 miles of running on Saturday. Biked 40 on Sunday, then ran 3 miles. Still have a long way to go to get ready for the biking event. At leaat I tacked some longer hills and lived.

Mpt gppd climbing weather this weekend. Next weekend - long run, lang ride and I want to climb. Sleep is not scheduled!!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jun 16, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
Short in miles, killer in cardio. A semi-street, semi-trail run up our local "cardiac hill". Indeed it was, doubly, because at the top was a breath taking clear view all the way down Monterey Bay. Not often clear on summer mornings. Just fluffs my aura and spirit and everything else.
Seamstress, I always enjoy reading about your adventures! You go girl!

Good on ya, Moosedrool, too!

Susan
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jun 16, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
Ran off my fastest 5 mile race ever yesterday in Central Park.

A nice 6.5 Progression run today. Going after my 10k PR Sunday in Queens. Not going to be easy. The miles 2 -4 go around a Lake which seems to pump the heat and often there are puddles and mud.

But Queens is one a my fav races. It's on the site of the 64 Fairgrounds.

Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Jun 22, 2014 - 05:12pm PT
Finished my first Mt Washington NH road race yesterday. Legs feel good today.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2014 - 05:54pm PT
First day off in like thirteen. Tried to sleep late. Lasted till a little after six. Decided for a before breakfast spin on the bike. Predicted high of 99° but it was Oudh and high sixties,Kept on going, despite lack of caffeine, pushed up the hill to the Moab brand trails.went past and up 313, eventually turned around and hit the single track and down the hl home. Ended up with 37 miles before the heat and before breakfast!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 22, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
Did my first Century yesterday. (and first bike race ever) It was hot in Santiago Canyon and there was a lot more gain than I figured on.

Still finished in about the middle of the pack of 400.

http://bigringcentury.com/
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Jun 22, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
7 mile run on Thursday, 20 on Saturday, and 6 tonight. Legs feel good. Ready to run something long.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jun 26, 2014 - 01:28pm PT
Yesterday did ab workout+ 2 mile run+ 2 mile speed walk --- all after 20 hr fast.
Felt really strong.
Getting used to intermittent fasting (IF)
Slept like a baby.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jun 26, 2014 - 05:35pm PT
PRd 3 distances lifetime (HM, 10K and 5 mile) in the last 7 weeks. Ran 10 miles today. Marathon Training Season is ON!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 7, 2014 - 10:11am PT
Glad to see folks conteding with the heat. John - I remember that spot at the World's Fair, quite a treat for me at the time.

I am beginning to think that the crazy training and challenges ahead might be doable.

Ran 24 - 25 miles, nearly all on rugged trails on Friday. Gained 2,000 vertical on trenched single track trail up to Butte Camp. Then the terrain was "more reasonable". Much of the Loowit is above treeline, and the sun was strong. Stopped at 8 miles to cool my feet in the snow fed creek. Shockingly cold. Continued to the trail wash out near Sheep Canyon. Paused on the lip of the canyon, gathering the courage to plunge down. Of course, at the very moment when safety demands no one above or below, there were six people trying to get through this ugly spot simultanesouly. The first four of us (of course including me) did not find the flagged way out, but the last two did. I'm dodging boulders unleashed by a woman less mountain goat-like than myself. I used my best big sister voice to encourage all to leave a little room here.

The rest of the run planned for the trail was fabulous, especially when diving back into the cool forest. Out at the trailhead, the run appeared to be in the bag. But wait, I went down the gravel road a mile, and no junction in sight. I know the road was washed out, but was it obliterated? I panicked and dropped onto a cross country ski trail heading towards Red Rock Pass. A little later, my GPS informed me that I took a wrong turn at the last trail intersection. It is getting late.

Now I generally tell people that bushwahcking is not the best idea becuase they put trails in the best places for human travel and around obstacles. Did I heed my own advice? Nope. I decided to follow a contour line 1/2 mile to get onto the correct trail. The GPS did not show the three deep and digusting washes that I had to figure out how to cross. Like a rodent, I curried back and forth on the lips of these loose canyons looking for any feasible way across.I thrashed through vegetaion. Now my legs are bleeding, attracting miquitos as dusk approaches. I am frantically leaping over deadfall, trying to beat the impending dusk. Lesson - I should have retraced my steps. It would have been MUCH FASTER and MUCH EASIER.

FInally I pop out at Red Rock Pass. My radio transmissions indicated that I was fine but late. I was not in dire need of help, so I was not going to outright ask for help. More miles were run than planned. Did my husband pick up on that hint and meet me? No. However one of the fine young men on our rescue team heard my status report and offered to intercept me. I joyfully accepted the offer, thus the run stayed at about 25 miles.

Since I am planning on stacking a 50 K trail run and a 7 day bike ride, my longest bike ride was also planned for this past weekend - Ariel to Lava Canyon and back. It included hills up to 11% grade, several thousand vertical gain, and totaled 46 miles. I was terrified that I would not be able to complete the hills. That is not enough to stop me from trying. I managed to get up all the hills with only one unplanned stop. There was a flat tire, and I wrestled that tube out and in - without the help of my MIA training partner and Sag wagon. Another good experience, in retrospect.

That's a lot of words to say - training is going well. I am beginning to believe I can do this. My awesomely sculpted legs must stay hidden beneath cloth to hide the souvenirs of my bushwahcking session.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
Hiked five miles guiding this morning. Was going to do a bike ride, but as it's 101° outside I'm not going anywhere near my bike now.....
Vedauwoo can't come soon enough!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jul 13, 2014 - 12:16pm PT
Every couple months there's a small group of us that do creek scrambles. We try to combine Mtn biking to a trail head, hike till we find a good place to enter a creek and then follow it for 4 or so miles until it looks like a good exit spot to get back out and hike to our bikes. The obstacles of log jams and boulders is much fun. Although yesterday I did a nasty side slip and fell on my hip. Oweeeee. We've done Fall Creek, Big Sur, and two parts of Aptos this spring. Yesterday we did 4 miles in Aptos, hiked back to the bikes and finished with about 10 miles of Mtn biking.

Susan
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jul 13, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
Ran 5.3 yesterday and 12.4 today. First back to back Sunday double digit runs in a while. Marathon Training is on.
Got everything today, rained for a while then the sun came out.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 13, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
SC,

What are you doin'? hunting for poison oak?

:-)

SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jul 13, 2014 - 05:19pm PT
What are you doin'? hunting for poison oak?
Lucky me, I'm not allergic to it. My other buds are, therefore they wear long pants strapped across their ankles. Unfortunately I ran into several, no make that really a lot, of stinging nettles. Oh well, all in a days fun.

Susan
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Aug 2, 2014 - 03:25pm PT
Thirty miles, Pescadero/LaHonda Loop. Climb-y little sucker for just 30 miles (3,000 feet).


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2014 - 03:29pm PT
Two burns on Forever war, i might not be able to breathe for a week!
Now a liesurely mtn bike ride!!
Edit : then there were the boulder problems I couldn't do, but I did, finally get up a 10' 5.9 handcrack!!!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 19, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
Geez, have all you guys quit running for the last month?

5.11 miles tonight, 61 minutes, 59 yards down and up, 659 Calories. I guess I can have an extra beer, eh?

Running seems like a perfectly good waste of energy.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
Happy to report resting pulse of 42, completed a 26 mile trail run in 90+ heat feeling pretty good. My "easy weekend" was a climb up Mt. Adams with a colleague from work - and did fine with my trail running legs providing enough crossover benefit to make up for a total lack of peak bagging. Hood to Coast this weekend, then my last long training run. Hope I survive this!!!

The biking schedule fell apart. Between my son's visit and attending a family funeral, I am not getting in many miles. Still intend to do Cycle Oregon, but it will be a sufferfest.

The rewards seem to be worth it - I feel great.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 19, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
Stress fracture in left foot. Really miss my HIiT workouts.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
Ran Mt Peale (with Blitzo) linked a bunch of those other peaks and then ran down the La sal pass road and back to make it come out to thirteen miles. September's half marathon came early this year!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 2, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
A couple of weeks ago it was Sill

8 mi, 13hrs, 5200 ft of gain, All above 12,000,half of it above 13,000

Total for the vacation was 35 mi and 14,900 ft of gain, not including Fairview and Lembert.


Did 94 mi of flat on the bike Saturday, 6 hr ride time, 45 min stopped.

I'm now finally under 210

Tomorrow it's either intervals or the hwy 39 climb. haven't quite decided on how to torture myself yet.

NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Sep 3, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
I took my kids on their first real backpacking trip this weekend near Tuolumne Meadows... Mt Hoffman via May Lake. Most of the folks posting here would probably do that after waking up before they needed to take a morning pee, but carrying climbing gear and water and food for 3 people was a great equalizer to make me as tired (or maybe more so) than the kids. I don't normally seek out cardio activities, so this got my heart pumping pretty well.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Sep 3, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
Ran 30 miles in these 4 days, gunning for a 50 mile week. I'm feeling like I'm on the edge of barfing, around 50% of the time.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Sep 3, 2014 - 03:58pm PT
That means your doing it right.

Heading to utah for the wasatch 100 right now. Ready for a spectacular ass kicking.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Sep 3, 2014 - 05:15pm PT
Hood to Coast went well - the old lady took Leg 1, blasted downhill from Timberline Lodge posting the fastest mile she's ever run, 5:09, for the first mile. So what if that was gravity aided!! Took the lead in my starting group and passed six people from the group that started 15 minutes ahead of me. Yes!!

Reality kicked me for my third run. Let's just savor the first moment.

Part two of the aerobathon is Saturday with the Volcanic 50K. The heat will be on high. Let's see if I melt. I hope that I get through the 24 mile checkpoint before the cutoff time.

Then a few short hours later, it will be Cycle Oregon.

Looking forward to mere climbing by mid-September!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2014 - 05:50pm PT
I'm exhausted just reading that! Good luck!
And you too, Atch! The wasatch 100, wow!
Rock!...oopsie.

Trad climber
the pitch above you
Sep 3, 2014 - 06:40pm PT
Paddled my kayak solo around Manhattan for a PB time of 6 hrs 38 min including time to cross the Hudson twice. Only saw 3 condoms and 2 maxi pads, so I'd say the rivers are cleaning up!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Sep 4, 2014 - 07:30pm PT
^ gross

5000 m on a rowing machine
First time doing cardio in over 5 months
F*#k yeah
Fat Paul

Trad climber
Right Coast
Sep 4, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
Speed night! 13 miles @ 7:50 pace. Last Saturday, 5 hour trail run.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
Well, I was about to feel proud for running three miles in 29 minutes, but buddy above spoiled it all for me.

Nice work, Anita. Legs are so overrated.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 4, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
Explain "cardio" please...
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Sep 11, 2014 - 12:58pm PT
Spectacular ass kicking it was!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 11, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
Explain "cardio" please...

"Cardio" is aerobic exercise.
Generally it is any kind of activity that substantially increases your heart rate and breathing for an extended period of time. Running is a good example.
-------------------------------------------------——--------------------------------


Recovering from a stress fracture on foot and been able to run 1 to 1 1/2 miles this week on separate days.
Did really good weight session yesterday. Been alternating between light weight/high reps sessions and going heavy.
Heavy, man.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Sep 15, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
DONE!!!

Volcanic 50K was on a very hot day. I suffered through the miles on the north side of St. Helens, my foot screaming at me. Joyfully, I immersed it in the creek at 16 miles to get some of the swelling down and reduce the pain. Struggled up to Aid Station 3 at 20 miles and soaked my foot for 10 minutes. That revived me, and I blasted across the Plains of Abraham, deperately trying to beat the cutoff at Aid Station 4. I made it with minutes to spare. My hubby met me with an icepack for my foot - anticipated the problem and knew that I would not make it from 20 - 32 without a cooling mechanism. My buddy joined me for the last 8 miles. Finished!!

Rose at 4:30 AM, on the road by 5:30 AM to start Cycle Oregon. Began with Legs of Lead. The "easy day" from the Dalles to Glenwood was pure determination. The heat was still on, and the switchbacks up to Glenwood were a slog from tree to tree, hyperventilate, repeat. We were blessed with an awesome view of Adams from our camp.

Day two was a 63 mile jaunt back down to The Dalles, then over to Dufur. This day had over 6,000 feet of climbing. Surprisingly, I made it.

Day 3 brought the long climb out of Dufur, passing nearby many of the climbing areas hidden in the river cnayons. Mt. Hood took center stage. We had nearly 7,000 vertical on a day with 74 miles.

I thought the pain would be over. No one mentioned the hundreds of expansion joints we would encounter on the long downhill into Tygh Valley.


The bike was much the worse for wear - and so was my ass. We had 84 miles to get to Madras. The chain was groaning as we crossed the Warm Springs Reservation.

I had the bike support team check my iron steed, and they thought just a little lube would do the trick. Nope. Two flat tires followed. My second tube did not have a long enough stem, so I bartered with another cyclist to exchange tubes. That's three tire changes for me!! Then the chain fell off, then the bike started shifting without my instructions to do so. Did my best to enjoy the dam crossing - generally closed to the public. I arrived at the base of the 14.7 degree hill with no confidnece that the bike would behave. 14.7 degree grade for 1.5 miles, 12 more miles after that, 45 minutes before course support pulled - jumped on the sag wagon, roaylly pissed off. Left my bike with the mechaincs for the evening and stormed off to dinner with no shower. Didn't care how grimy or smelly I was.

The next day was the optional day - a relatively flat and short loop through Smith Rock. Let me give you the definition of flat - only 3,325 in elevation gain over a short 68.7 miles. Hammered the first half, enjoying the views of the cascades.
And Lake Billy Chinook
Fantastic lunch and entertainment at Smith near North Point.
Headwinds made the second half quite a bit more difficult even though it was flatter. I had a slow leak in a tire, but managed to bring it home. It was that evening that I became familiar with "goatheads" and "puncture weed". This tube change would be the last of the trip.

I was very nervous about Day 6 which was the longest day - 90 miles. Left at the crack of dawn in 37 degree temperatures, tears streaming down my face for the opening miles. Finally we got to the first climb, 5 miles at 5 - 6% grade. I actually welcomed this, glad to warm up, and plodded my way up the hill, actually passing some people. We passed through Antelope and Shaniko. These climbs were without incident, and the switchbacks were actually reasonable. The 21 mile descent down Bakeoven Road was fun, and I actually went miles between braking, a vast improvement in coordination and confidence from the beginning of the trip. We coasted down to Maupin where you could choose to raft, take the cheater shuittle, or ride. I rode down a gloriously mild section of road along the Deschuttes River, passing rafters and native fisherman.
A "short (3 miles) and mild (4 - 5% grade)" climb brought us out of the canyon and into Tygh Valley.
I was so happy to have completed these rides, remembering how painful the first 20 mile ride was back in May when I started biking following a 30 year abseence.

We slept in until almost 6 AM for the final ride. Departure was a late 8:15 AM. The final day began with - surprise - yet another climb. That was dispatched quickly. We turned onto Dufur Gap Road and roared through the gap, then down 15 mile mile road, swooping back to the Dalles.

The Aerobic trip report - Success!! Not bad for a little old lady. Now back to climbing.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Sep 15, 2014 - 02:59pm PT
wow GREAT^

I DNSd the 18 mile race yesterday. Woke up at 2 am feeling really terrible.

But I got so I could keep food down later that aft, and knocked out a 5 miler. Today, I had a low grade fever and some sniffles, but I'm eating fine and the legs are charged, I ran 10 miles MTR per training plan.

I'm screwed though, for LTRs and 6 weeks out. This won't end well.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Sep 15, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
30 mins/~5250 meters on the rower
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 16, 2014 - 05:39am PT
Wow Seamstress, amazingly proud work!

And Atch, understated awesomeness!
thebravecowboy

climber
hold on tight boys
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
ate five little hills for dinner on the roadbike. yum-yum-yum-yum love that granny gear punishment. no thoughts but for the now in the steepest of pavement, no joy but the current on those loooong pebble-ridden downhills, sweeping into the cool air like a scythe through wet, ready phloem. my lungs hurt.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 18, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
3 sets each
--barbell bench presses
--dumbbell bench flies
--dumbbell incline bench presses
--weighted incline push-ups

Ran 2 miles at track

Finally cooling off around here. Tuesday 107, weds. 101, today 90.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Tomorrow 85 degrees...ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Right now at 9pm , 70 degrees.....freezing brrrrrrrr
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 29, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
I've been doing HiiT sessions on a standard 1/4 mile oval track.
I run all out for 1/8 mile roughly equal to 30 seconds of high intensity. Then I either walk or light jog for 1/8 mile equal to 90 seconds low intensity ---concentrating on nose- in/mouth-out breathing.
Today I did 8 quarter mile repetitions in this 30/90 interval for the first time.(been gradually working up to it)

On Weds. I plan on doing 2 miles of steady state running, then Fri. another 8 rep HiiT.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 30, 2014 - 12:02am PT
"Cardio" is aerobic exercise.
Generally it is any kind of activity that substantially increases your heart rate and breathing for an extended period of time. Running is a good example.

This is what I don't get...

... aerobic activity as practiced by athletes such as runners, bikers, and XC skiers is activity where you train for 45 min to many hours at a pace where you could, or could nearly, carry on a conversation. This level of training is aerobic and does not involve a "substantial" increase of heart rate unless compared to laying on a sofa...

Should you go beyond aerobic, you would then be doing anaerobic threshold or anerobic training and working on entirely different sets of energy pathways.

When I hear the word "cardio" I envision some weight room type suffering through some intense painfest in the quest to do the damned cardio or some cross-fit type tearing muscles sprinting around the block.

raymond phule

climber
Sep 30, 2014 - 01:02am PT

This level of training is aerobic and does not involve a "substantial" increase of heart rate unless compared to laying on a sofa...

I don't agree with this. I would say that it is also a substantial increase in heart rate compared to everyday life.

I train long and slow with a heart rate of around 140 bpm.
I walk with a heart rate of around 80 and I doubt that I spend much time with a heart rate above 100 in everyday life.

I kind of double my heart rate reserve when training long and slow and I would call that substantial.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Sep 30, 2014 - 07:31am PT
bump
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Oct 4, 2014 - 10:58am PT
Seamstress, Seamstress, Seamstress, That.Is.Doing.It. And not just talking about it.
I am so in awe. I'm just hoping to pump out a few bike miles today for the first time after foot surgery.
Huge respect to one tough doer.

Susan
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Oct 4, 2014 - 02:15pm PT
Ran 10 today. 20 on tap for tomorrow.

Good Luck to anyone doing R2 R2 R2!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Oct 4, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
I am so f'ing happyyyyy....went for a 15 mile, mostly flat road bike ride today. The first ride since my foot surgery. Yes. Yes. Yes. I really didn't want to stop as I had no discomfort but I'm trying my best to really not screw up this fix.
Susan with-a-big-smile!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Nov 12, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
Oh you lazy buggers! Sitting around for over a month.

Been running the last few days. Tonight - 5.86 miles in exactly one hour. 761 calories burned. I believe I have now earned that extra hunk of lasagna, and the glass of Malbec.

So I'm using the Noom app on my cell phone to record all this - anyone know how to get it to post to Facebook? I can't make it work.

Or can anyone recommend another app that gives you a map of how far you run and how fast, and tells you how many calories you've burned?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2014 - 10:07pm PT
Will get back
Into this stuff as soon as I'm sure my nose won't fall off....
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Nov 13, 2014 - 08:13am PT
Been engaging in aerobic and anaerobic MTB biking with a little road riding thrown in. Loving it. Weather has turned COLD so it's turned into crack of noon start times.
Playing with tire pressure and I'm getting "hot knife through butter rides" Well kinda.



Susan
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 13, 2014 - 10:28am PT
I'm coming back from the NYC Marathon slowly. A couple of nice runs early this week, but I'm feeling the race still. My last 20 miler, less than 3 weeks out, went much better than the race itself. So I'm guessing, I needed more recovery time.

Getting old suqs.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Dec 16, 2014 - 11:31pm PT
Well, the running did seem to work, as I kicked the @sses of the three young whippersnappers who tried to keep up with me in Roppel Cave over US Thanksgiving....

With Christmas coming, con mucho cervezas y margaritas, I figured I'd best pre-burn a few calories. Tonight I ran 7.14 miles = 11.5km, and burned 923 calories. My app told me I get three avocados [whoopee sh|t] - just tell me how many beers I earned! So it's 22.36 miles over the last five days. Yay.

I don't think I've ever run 20 miles in a week in my life. What am I thinking? And I still have two days left. And my legs don't even hurt!

And the belt that *someone* made fun of me trying to buckle a few weeks ago now fits a full notch tighter. More room for chocolate.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Dec 17, 2014 - 07:51am PT
wow, I think I would sell my soul today for a 7 mile run. And I was running a few 50+ mile weeks only 2 - 3 months ago. That XC this w/e, really cleaned me out.


SC seagoat

Trad climber
In What Time Zone Am I?
Dec 17, 2014 - 09:20am PT
Ran six miles two days in a row. Trying to beat the Christmas rush like others.
My foot surgery for the neuroma was successful! No foot pain on that foot....now the other foot (osteoarthritic toe) is acting up. Arrgggh

Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2014 - 09:41am PT
Nice, Susan! I've got seventeen miles under my soles for this week so far, was supposed to guide looking glass today ( & AArt tomorrow) but current state of rain / snow putting that on hold, for now...
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
This is a very difficult time of year to keep up the good work.

The holidays always present a challenge. Dark. Rain. Snow. Ice. Social obligations. Toss in a family member moving, moving Dad into hospice, coming back immediately for his funeral, cleaning out his home with all my siblings - I never needed the the stress release of running more and have so few opportunities to do so. I am delighted and amazed to have run 12 of the last 14 days, albeit many fewer miles.

Time to get back on track.
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
Put on 10 lbs somehow between Oct and the end of Dec. Aahh, the forties are finally catching up!

3 Nordy days(80k's worth) over the weekend and I think I lost 1, maybe 3 of those lbs?
SC seagoat

Trad climber
In What Time Zone Am I?
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:42pm PT
Back on the road bike for the first ride this year. Santa Cruz hitting the low 70s. I was way over dressed. But the scenery was lovely.
Looking northwest toward the Cement Ship in Aptos,


Susan

WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
Oh snap. Now I'm committed.

Signed up for the Bighorn Trail Run, not the 100 miler, but the 30k.
http://www.bighorntrailrun.com/

I have never done a trail run this long, so you, the wonderful posters on this thread, are going to be my training inspiration.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2015 - 01:51pm PT
12 miles on that yellow mt. Bike, on the brines mt disable trail, yesterday.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
In What Time Zone Am I?
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:59pm PT
^^^^you're an animal Jay! 12 miles on the styling Klein. Well, geez wiz, I don't know what to say. You are made of sterner stuff than anyone I know.

Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2015 - 02:14pm PT
It's a start....:)
Karen

Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:20pm PT
After several injuries with very long healing times finally back on my road bike. Can only ride 30 min. but it is a start. Not sure if the gym counts:) not really aerobic but have at least been using the weights for several months now and diffinately gotten stronger.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:49pm PT
Finally getting back in the groove, with back to back 5 milers. But a Half in less than 3 weeks. I'm no where near trained enough for it. 23 miles last week.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 03:38pm PT
Just doing my HiiT training on 1/4 mile oval track: 1/8 mile sprints followed by 1/8 mile walk, 8 laps total, a couple times a week. Afterwards , 8-12 weightlifting sets on body parts.

On other days just long walks with dog.
WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Jan 12, 2015 - 01:33pm PT
Last week 22 miles of running, 400 flights of stairs, and one solo ski tour in the Bighorns.
WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Feb 4, 2015 - 01:59pm PT
Ran a total of 92 miles in January. Crazy how it adds up!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 4, 2015 - 05:27pm PT
4 X 8 min intervals on the bike today.

My calves are felling it now.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Feb 4, 2015 - 05:30pm PT
quick.
the thieves! they are gettin' away.
tey got my dream.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Feb 4, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
Some folks here may find this interesting.

Here's what getting older may do to you.

Columns are:
M(ale) age group
mile time record for the group
the person
percentage that the time represents of a four minute mile

YMMV

M 35 03:51.4 Bernard Lagat 96.41%
M 40 03:58.2 Eamonn Coghlan 99.23%
M 45 04:16.1 Tony Young 106.70%
M 50 04:25.0 Nolan Shaheed 110.43%
M 55 04:35.0 Keith Bateman 114.60%
M 60 04:51.8 Tony McManus 121.60%
M 65 04:56.4 Derek Turnbull 123.50%
M 70 05:19.7 Joop Rüter 133.23%
M 75 05:41.8 Ed Whitlock 142.42%
M 80 06:26.6 David Carr 161.08%
M 85 08:04.7 Josef Galia 201.96%
M 90 10:30.9 Peter Brownbill 262.88%
M 95 14:48.2 Herb Kirk 370.08%
M 100 11:53.5 Fauja Singh 297.27%


thebravecowboy

climber
just banana-jam it
Feb 8, 2015 - 08:06am PT
1:36 car to car yesterday. I am a ways off my PR but I just learned that my PR is 5:00 off the record!
coolrockclimberguy69

climber
Feb 8, 2015 - 08:52am PT
Rode from Moab to Canyonlands visitors center on Wednesday, my first big road ride. Got back to the car with 99.1 km so I had to do a quick spin down the bike path and get the full hundred k. Hope to make it all the way to Grand View point sometime. I was suprised to find that my shoulders and hands, not my legs, were my weaknesses on the road bike.

atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Feb 8, 2015 - 08:55am PT
American Canyon 50k yesterday. Early season training run...
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Feb 8, 2015 - 10:12am PT
Went surfing, boogie boarding, and body surfing with my kids yesterday. Definitely got a good cardio work-out and spaghetti arms after so long of not doing it.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 8, 2015 - 10:26am PT
Six straight days of skiing followed by two run days. Ten mile race in Brooklyn a week from today.
thebravecowboy

climber
just banana-jam it
Feb 8, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
Clicked in at just over 1 hour, 23 minutes today for the old Temple run. Still about 8 minutes off the record.

The tunes sure help. http://www.npr.org/event/music/374643866/trey-anastasio-tiny-desk-concert?autoplay=true


I didn't wipe out in front of the tourons or the lumbering dumb manstock today. So I've got that going for me. Which is nice.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 8, 2015 - 09:02pm PT
Did my usual HiiT session on the 1/4 mile track in a light rain last night. The only other person there was this guy with a crippled leg who was already doing laps when I arrived. He was struggling with a lot of awkward effort and I found it amazing that he was even able to stay upright, much less keep up any kind of a pace.

It was getting dark as my dog and I departed. I looked back one last time to see him still lurching forward in the rainy darkness.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Feb 10, 2015 - 10:50am PT
Awesome how so many are hanging in there with starting out and staying with New Years "get health(ier)"

I've been pretty consistent with primarily biking and/or hiking several times a week. Minimum of 2 hours, max of 4 hours.
Not so much skiing. In about a week we'll go up further North and see what transpires snow wise...or I could go home to the East Coast for a visit....not.

Anyone tried out the new Fit Bit Surge that has HRM and GPS functions without a chest strap? It's pricey and I don't want to get it if it's got bugs to work out.


Susan
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Feb 10, 2015 - 11:24am PT
Nordy stuff has been non-existent for me due to a funky Juneuary that is on week #4 up here. Crazy, I've hardly skied this year...I can count the # on two hands! Plus, a bitchin 3+ week of sinus infection funness has me fairly outa shape and chompin' at the bit to swill some air. Got a 30ish mile road ride on my fixt wheel in 50 degree weather on Sunday and it felt SOOOOOO GOOOOD and I think I pretty much kicked that sinus stuff to the asphalt. I figure 2,3-4 weeks of fixtness will prep my knees for some spring running. So, I am road riding this week!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2015 - 05:07pm PT
Invert camp;
Sunday evening I drove to the needles district of canyonlands and got a quick round of invert problems; following up on two trips to the Crackhouse the two days before. I'm determined to make this an invert year. Who says old Dogs can't perfect new tricks? -that they had a hand in creating in the first place....

The next mornIng I rode my mtn bike, 'The yellow beast' from Squaw flat cmpgrnd needles district ( pssst, free this time of year!) to the Colorado river overlook, 22.4 miles, 6 paved. After a morning invert session at said pothole point boulders.

Look at the those six shooters, similar alignment as the view from century crack, several miles West......

Went back to PPB and tried to do another session but only managed one, feeble, invert.

This morning I drank coffee, finished reading Smoke Blanchards book, and headed back to pothole point. Spent half an hour with my feet over my head, then drove down to the end if the road and checked out the trail to the confluence from that trailhead. It's 11 miles round trip, which I knew I didn't have in me, but it's a very cool trail and I'll be back! Managed two (slow) miles and was satisfied...
When I got back to the car Hekyl covered "Wake of the Flood" for my entertainment!
One last stop ( the fifth in three days) at pothole point. This time I went all out, did laps, invert sittups and even employed a 20 lb weight vest!

Hekyll & Jekyll did not seem impressed;

thebravecowboy

climber
just banana-jam it
Feb 13, 2015 - 02:54pm PT
Sick little program you've got going there Jay. Sick.

Just ticked in at 1:20 and change on the usual loop. My foot popped on the descent, happy handjams saved the day.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Feb 13, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
Pissing rain again.... Currently on a treadmill at the gym.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 13, 2015 - 04:56pm PT
Commuted by bike every day this week.

(there's one for the warmists)

Took the LWH (long way home) Wednesday with 4X8'intervals.

Today on the way home had to detour around a wreck a block from the shop. A CHP tee boned a small car at high speed and knocked it clear into the bushes.

Hope no one was on the passenger side!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 13, 2015 - 10:00pm PT
Started back in the gym three weeks ago to supplement the aerobic training. Fortunately the gym is 2 miles away from the office. I'm always leaving later than I should, so I really pound it getting to the gym. My body protested violently with the masochistic training exercises I end up doing. The run back to the office is never as sprightly. Still I was delighted to get in a great run despite the rebellion that my hammies were throwing today. Ran up the stairs from Burnside to the Japanese Gardens, then up asphalt to the lower gate of the Zoo. Thank God the second half of that run is downhill!

Feeling a little competitive spirit stirring. Signed up for a couple of tough races. Smith Rock Ascent in May - 15 miles and a couple of good climbs. July will be Fueled by Fine Wine, running through the ridiculous vineyards in Dundee. Oregon. Let's continue to fight aging.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2015 - 10:06pm PT
A run, and a a bike ride, adding up to just u der five miles.... Still, it could be worse.....
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 8, 2015 - 06:28pm PT
From the house to meet up with a group of Clydesdales from another forum.

12 mi of relatively flat from home to GMR (Glendora Mt. Road), to Baldy Village for lunch then back home.

67 mi +/- 6000 ft of gain.

Can keep up with the carbon weenies with fat tires and a CX bike, even with breaking a chain and a quick repair.

Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 8, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
The last time i checked in, i think was Nov 2013 after running 1/2 marathon.
The week after i had to stop running due to knee troubles. i took up cycling again and avg. 100 -140 miles each week until Nov 4th when i had knee replacement surgery.

i've been released to start riding on the road again; they are pretty stingy with the miles; but it is a start. i was riding 20 minutes a day during recovery on indoor trainer; but stopped a few weeks ago.

i plan on mixing some running in with the riding when i am a little more sure of this "robo" knee.

it's been a pretty boring (and fating) 4 months!
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 8, 2015 - 09:25pm PT
I have been trying to run a faster two miles on the high school cushy track. I keep trying to shove will power down to my feet. They don't seem to be getting the message. I keep trying with every damn step. Wake up! Come on! Get moving faster! Pick it up! Let's go! Every damn step. I can't get distracted. Keep at it, every single step.

Finally, after a few weeks of this, I am running some 100's after my two miles.

I got my pre-Thanksgiving weight down from 187 to 159. Near the end of the 100 yards I feel like I am flying. Delusional, of course, at age 60 I am slow, but it still feels great to be so light.

Will power is so key to every athletic effort. Get those nerve channels firing.

I also point my thumbs up to the sky hard. This makes my elbows bend up more, so that my arms can pump faster. Then my legs can likewise move faster. Try it sometime. It really helps. Especially when you find yourself drifting.

Happy as a lark and feeling strong as a colt.
thebravecowboy

climber
Greyrock, CO
Mar 8, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
I always found caffeine key for the two-mile.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 8, 2015 - 10:18pm PT
5.9, stop trying so hard. Harder isn't faster. Be more efficient, like in climbing...
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 9, 2015 - 12:39am PT
I got my pre-Thanksgiving weight down from 187 to 159.
Pretty much what I'm in the middle of. Any particulars? Done it before a couple of time, but always curious about other folks' approaches.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Mar 9, 2015 - 12:54am PT
I used to run the mirror lake loop.
There was a sign indicating a mile, and I thought I'd gotten close to a 4 minute mile at times.
Nobody gives a rip about 4 minute miles anymore.
Neither should they.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 9, 2015 - 03:30am PT
way to go yos.5.9! 60and still running full bore?! That is good genetics & hard work!!
This thread always inspires me !
Running ,even a light jog left my quiver when I broke my heel,then the knees have both had
ACL replacements, so while the track, is in the mix real hard hart pumping workouts are all machine Work for me.
Going to the gym today for sure!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Mar 9, 2015 - 06:41am PT
Ran a 10 mile race in Brooklyn yesterday in 1:43. Not great, but at 67yo, I'll take it.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2015 - 08:03am PT
Yay Team!
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Mar 9, 2015 - 08:17am PT
Saturday - 50 moto singletrack of steep rocky miles on Butte monzonite with sandy stuff connectors. The bouldering along the trails is amazing - worked!
35 miles roady dirt ride to snow/mud - tired!

After work rides and runs with the new time change should help with dropping the lbs.!
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 9, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
I am having better luck losing weight this year because I cut out all forms of sugar, and decided to go farther this year by absolutely minimizing other carbohydrates, which pretty much left me with protein to live on. I think cutting way back on carbs was the missing part and accepting the fact that I can live on protein, with some dry lettuce.

Caffeine actually interferes with natural heart rhythm. For me it is not wise due to the risk of causing atrial fibrillation.

After six years of intermittent atrial fibrillation, that became constant in April of 2014, I had ablation surgery in November of 2014. It seems to be 99% successful. I began feeling great the next day.

Then knee surgery in December to repair a minor meniscus tear from doing pause (at the bottom) squats that were too low with too much weight. I had tried to ignore the problem for six months. Eight weeks of pain followed that surgery. Rehab was challenging. I did not have professional help. I just pushed through the pain and then backed off a day or two, then pushed again and backed off a day or two, over and over.

I write this only to offer an example of how will power allowed me to feel about thirty years younger. Thank you all for your responses.

Hopefully I will work back up to pass my 2014 record of lifting 106,000 pounds (53 tons) in the gym in four hours. If you happen to lift weights with very good form, you know this is doable. But you have to work up to it over maybe a year. My recent effort was 40,000 pounds in February of this year as I regain my squat ability.

But my real goal is to improve my crack climbing this summer. I love motorcycling, swimming, tennis, running, the gym and golf. But my favorite sport is still climbing.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2015 - 10:14pm PT
I have been trail running and mtn biking, up to eight and 24 miles respectively, details and photos to come...
But what I really want to talk about is my inversion training, not really aerobic, but as it's still endurance it's related!

I have some upside down climbing objectives this year, one of the necessary goals is to be able to hang upside down for long periods of time. I use inversion cuffs with three layers of wool socks for padding. I've worked up to over and hour! I do three sets of inverted sit-ups every ten minutes. Also pull my upper body up on rock rings in various work out strategies.

I have to sit around quietly for a while after that, I swear I can feel my organs shifting back intro place....
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Mar 10, 2015 - 12:07am PT
Jay, do that upside down stuff when it's cold, less organ shifting...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2015 - 07:26am PT
Which means,living in Moab,that the season for it is almost over :)
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Mar 16, 2015 - 07:52am PT
Jeezus Jay!! Are you gonna rip a toe off now?

Susan
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 16, 2015 - 08:05am PT
Yos 5.9 - thanks for the rundown...
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Mar 16, 2015 - 09:29am PT
Mon. 11
Wed. 4
Fri. 7
sat. 11
sun. 11

Man its hard to get miles... Less than a month until Zion.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Mar 16, 2015 - 10:03am PT
Don't judge me for the title, but iwantsixpackabs is the best all around workout I've ever done! Try it! It's 16 weeks and a few yours ago when I got to week 11 I was in even better shape than water polo or any other time.

It's supersets with light weight so your heart rate stays elevated for 20-40 minutes depending on the week (changes weekly).

This link is to the archived site because it's no longer up
https://web.archive.org/web/20130828191812/http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/my_video_journal.html

This link is to the video demonstrations because sometimes the animations are a little off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGkJ3Z_adKo&list=PLAWGZId-08GGPCqZ326FuO3vMeZdvAM5f&index=1

The only downside is when people ask you what workout you're doing

Edit: copy and paste those links since I can't get them to be clickable
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Mar 16, 2015 - 10:19am PT
Nice GymBro Jaybro!

I got my first trail run(7miles 3+Kvert) of the year after the last 2 months of pt, biking and motoing. Sore in the muscle and the 47yo knees are feeling great!!! The gym and commuting by fixt wheel is why I can run and I am grateful for it when I am busy or just want to be in better shape. My only caveat is that I have to run up or down hills, even 1/4 mile continuous time/dist on flat kills my knees
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2015 - 11:48am PT
I got in a predawn headlamp illumined, trail run in this morning.





My next objective was suggested by KLK from this photo I posted,

I think that ridge, and back to the trailhead on the road should be a sub 10 mile loop....

Susan, a couple of my toes Are sore....

Go Atch!!

Thx for that Limping crab! I'll check it out, I'm looking to train the core in endurance mode for some steep climbing projects!!

Good luck with the knees, Cragar!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Mar 16, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
Ran 30 miles last week and a snowshoe ascent of something in the Catskills on 30 inches unconsolidated. A good week.

The snow here in the East this year, has been unusual. Gotta git sum even if the running takes a hit.

yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 17, 2015 - 07:53pm PT
Thanks for sharing, Jaybro. Did you work up to an hour gradually to see if your brains didn't pour out?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
Yes
10, 20, 30, 45 and sixty minutes on different days with at least one day in between. Befor that though, I ha been on various inverts for twenty minutes or so.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Mar 20, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
I lifted 35,000 pounds in the gym yesterday in an hour and forty minutes.

I ran two miles on the cushy high school track today, for my best time of 21 minutes. Seems slow doesn't it?

Then I ran five 100's in 22, 23, 24, 25 and 22 seconds. My best track day in at least twenty years.

When you are doing your calf raises, don't forget your seated calf raises. It will really help your running and frictioning on slabs.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2015 - 08:59pm PT
Guided a six or so mile canyon and then went invert bouldering.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Mar 20, 2015 - 10:02pm PT
Today I did my usual 2 mile Hiit routine. Surprised that I was able to dig down deep in my intensity eighth mile sprints, surprised because I was working out fasted after 22 hrs. without food.
It's taken 6 months but I think I've finally reached a level of ketogenic functioning I can be proud of.

http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/09/13/eating-before-exercise.aspx
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Mar 30, 2015 - 07:05pm PT
Starting running again a week ago, ran every day for seven straight, a first for me.

Off the couch in seven runs this week:

27.8 miles, 5.00 hours, 4350 Calories burned of my lard ass.

Tonight was longest - 10.0 km in 69 minutes [some walking, I'm tired, dammit!] and burned 986 Calories.


The eight workout was tonight, when I realized I stopped at 9.4km, and decided to go out and run another 600m, just to round it up.

The things we do to train for climbing, eh? My training regime for big wall climbing is well documented and legendary.

And this has nothing to do with a certain hottie calling me Flabio.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 30, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
Did 103 mi on the bike yesterday. Only 1500 ft of gain though. I did manage to keep the average heart rate down to 127 and averaged just a bit over 16 mph.

Best part was I was fully expecting my legs to be completely dead and sore for the commute today.

They weren't. Above average commute speed and the only thing that's sore are my seat bones.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Apr 16, 2015 - 01:02pm PT
Zion 100, april 10th.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Apr 16, 2015 - 05:03pm PT
Two 10Ks this month. The first, "The Scotland Run" in Central Park, over 8000 runners, Easter Saturday.
The second, a technical trail race in CT, with just over 200, Sunday past.
thebravecowboy

climber
the Midcontinent Rift
Apr 16, 2015 - 06:53pm PT
^what is a typical distance/vertical/trail roughness for those competitive trail runs John?

blasted out this little ditty the other day. 4.1k' gain and 46 miles. cool to look down at my alma lapis, Greyrock, from the high pass.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Apr 20, 2015 - 02:41pm PT
Yunno, tbc, that was the first realz Trail Race, I've ever done. It was 10Kish. I did a 20 miler, that Athlinks considers a Trail Race two years ago, but it was a Canal Towpath.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 1, 2015 - 01:25pm PT
I have been splitting my time between grueling hikes and longer races. Finished the Smith Rock Ascent 41 minutes faster than 2 years ago on a perfect day. Next, I managed to take second place overall in an obscure 1/2 marathon. Beat several ladies much younger than I. I will be doing the Olympic Discovery 1/2 Marathon next weekend. That should be a treat for the eyes.

I did not get my bike on the road yet. I wanted to do that before June 1st.

My daughter is coming in the fall and needs to lose some weight. I promised her a fabulous overnight hike to give her a goal. Here is the camp site for day 1

There is a fine line between necessary rest and being lazy. I hope I am on the right side of it!


WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Jun 1, 2015 - 02:43pm PT
Knots in my gut. Less than three weeks to the Bighorn Trail Run. Even though I'm only doing the 30k, it is far longer than any thing I've ever done. I'm pretty excited about my improved cardio over the last 6 months. The race really is secondary.

Once I finish, I think I'll try this challenge:

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2015 - 09:41am PT
Always good to take it easy so you won't be too tired, when resting up for your nap!

Sunday: Nine mile trail run, followed by guiding a canyon
Monday: another canyon
Tuesday: 21 mile mtn bike ride,
Today; car repair related bike ride and bike work commute, coming up in the PM another canyon...
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jun 10, 2015 - 10:23am PT
Three races last month. The first HM, was terrible, but the HM a week later, I PR'd. Go figure. Two weeks after that, I bombed in a 10K. Three days of hiking in the 'dacks, just done.
WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Jun 10, 2015 - 11:06am PT
10 days to go until the BHTR.

Ran 5 miles up Tongue River canyon and 5.6 miles down. How does that add up? I dunno ask Nike+.

Felt pretty good for being a fat and apprehensive about the 30k.
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jun 10, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
Moto 2 times a week and MTB 3. I've been pullin plastic in the early AM 1 or 2 times a week cuz I need to micro-ly maintain contact strength in case my buddy(hopefully) drags me to the crag..

Moto after work ride is a fast mob on the local tech for 2.5-3hrs.
Moto weekend ride is longer and more exploratory and more difficult trails. 4+hrs All my moto is singletrack, no roads or track as I am scared of each for different reasons.

Took the last month off the mtb to focus on moto but will be back to the mtb a bit more now.

The mtb will get more love as my main riding partner is out with an injury. A good BC-moto partner is akin to a good climbing partner. Kinda hard to find someone that is ok with lifting bikes over logs for hours(ok, many minutes!) and whatnot and going somewhere in a not-knowing much about it state of mind..

Anyway, I am at my target weight and loving the moto and non-moto wheeled traveling recreation...wait, isn't this a climbing website?!?
thebravecowboy

climber
liberated libertine
Jun 10, 2015 - 01:57pm PT
4,000 vertical day before yesterday. road+mtb
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jun 10, 2015 - 02:07pm PT
Way to be brave! a combo terrain ride or a combo bike ride? 4k is purdy dang good!
edit:

I see you meant both kinds of bikes. Mix'n it
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Jun 14, 2015 - 10:01am PT
Rode the split board yesterday. Kicked steps up a boot pack for 2000 feet at high elevation.
thebravecowboy

climber
liberated libertine
Jun 18, 2015 - 07:12pm PT
9300' to 11120'. 20 mi out and back on Red Mtn Pass. Just over an hour up and sub 20 mins down. Faster than traffic, dawgie.


And yeah, Harley riders from AZ are, well, ignint

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
Ya-hoo!
I'm getting early morning runs, and slightly later mtn bike rides, to try to acliitize.....

You busy afternoons, sun- Thursday this week coming up?
thebravecowboy

climber
liberated libertine
Jun 18, 2015 - 08:16pm PT
Aw shoot man, I am up working in the San Juans for the next few days. I will definitely be back in your neck of the woods soon and I can show you my map, talk shop, etc.

Fall-time, amigo, fall-time. The heat-man is here. I showed up in the deserrrp Johnny-not-on-the-spot wrt heat. Still though, indolence pays, and all.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 18, 2015 - 08:43pm PT
Rick, nice action!

How does the South side of Fairchild look? It is a fine run you'd enjoy.
thebravecowboy

climber
liberated libertine
Jun 20, 2015 - 07:29pm PT
3500' vert today, mapping rocks and cycling Molas Pass
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 23, 2015 - 10:31am PT
Aerobic work outs are now on hold. Fell off my bike in downtown Portland at dusk on our Wednesday night rides. I was last in line and just mounting the carbon fiber steed. Even though I was barely moving, I must have hit something and went over onto my shoulder. I got back on and rode in the darkness a few miles back to the office. It was tough wrestling the bike into the car for the long ride home. I told my husband that I might need an x ray in the morning. One look at me, and he insisted we go that night. Yep. Broken collar bone. A consult with the bone fracture clinic and they convinced me that I could not take my Africa trip this week, just days after the fall. and I have to cease jostling for a while. With any luck, I will be able to take my daughter back packing in October. I am confined to trails with good footing on nicely paved roads. Managed to hike up Coldwater Peak in the Mount Margaret Back Country out of Johnston Ridge. Some exposure but excellent footing. Normally, I wouldn't pick such a moderate hike so far from the house. I'll admit, it was a nice sampler of the features and beauty of the blast zone.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 23, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
On a Thursday in late July I saw my acupuncturist for my weekly visit and told her of my plans to hike to 13,000 feet in Toulumne Meadows in Yosemite, then drive to Colorado to hike to 14,000 feet. She put two extra needles by my upper lip to help my blood thin. Who knows what else she did to help me. I drove the next day to Toulumne on Friday from sea level. I hiked up Dana Peak from 10,000 to 13,000 feet the following day, Saturday, slowly, but with ease.

I have been going to Toulumne for over thirty years, from sea level to a base of 8,500 feet. Every time before it has taken me at least two days to acclimate. The third day I began to feel normal. But not this time.

I did not expect to be able to hike all the way up to 13,000 feet on the first day after leaving sea level. There are years that my physical condition was just as good, or frequently much better and yet I had much more trouble acclimating.

I can only credit the acupuncture treatment for my surprise ascent. My legs were admittedly very tired the next day, Sunday. On Monday I had one of my best days ever of friction climbing on the back and front of Lembert Dome.

Then I drove to Colorado. My hike in Colorado up Quandary Peak (five days after Dana Peak) from 10,500 to 14,000 feet up Quandary Peak (east ridge, 13.5 miles RT) was quite easy and my legs were fine for climbing the next two days in Eleven Mile Canyon in Colorado. Then I drove back to Toulumne for a day of crack climbing before going home.

I have no doubt many of you can all of the above easily, but you probably aren't age 61. I can't explain what my acupuncturist does, but she sure keeps me going.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 23, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
wow, Seamstress, that's rough. Killing an Africa trip ouch ouch. ZOMG

I've become convinced, cycling isn't - overall - healthy. The training benefit, is outweighed by the damage. I still ride, but not simply for training now. More running.

Yesterday, I pulled my race wheels offa my CX and put on the wheels with heavy City tyres. Commuting is about it for me these days.

Life, some hiking in the Presis, and I haven't run in 8 days. That will change tomorrow. The Fifth Avenue mile, a 10 mile race and an HM upcoming.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
Aug 23, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
Oh Seamstress. I always look so forward to your posts. You always inspire me.
Shitty luck on that fall. One of my biggest fears on my road bike is a broken collarbone.
Hope all heals fast and well


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2015 - 07:18pm PT
Hoh man, what a drag!! Bad any turned, but before a big trip? Refundable tickets? Africa will be there.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 26, 2015 - 04:11pm PT
A few kind souls out there - thanks for your words. Mine is a "first world problem".

For the very first time, I bought trip insurance. It should help replenish the bank so we can reschedule for next year. I am very curious to see if the company performs and processes the claim expeditiously. I'll certainly learn a lot about the true value of the plan.

It is 3 weeks today, and I am getting very restless to get back to the freely mobile world. Walking for an hour at lunch and jumping on the exercise bike just doesn't provide the same efficiency and fun as a run or the weekly bike ride with my office mates.

Yes, we can't defy aging forever. So healing will take longer (can't wait to see that x-ray next week), and one less adventure will happen in my lifetime. It is not a tragedy. I like trying to pack as much into my lifetime as I can. They may be insignificant adventures compared to many supertopians. They may be high falutin' meaningless adventures to others. We all have our own way of being in the world. I'd like to see as much as I can.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 26, 2015 - 06:46pm PT
Seamstress, First, thanks for sharing.

Aging brings a bit of caution with it for me. I avoid activities that might injure me before a climbing trip. I don't ride my motorcycle or even work out in the gym for at least a week before I climb. I rely on swimming for the final training the week before climbing. Even tennis is out of the question for that week as I could pull a calf muscle.

Chicken? Ya, but I can always do those things after I get back from climbing.

I hope you get another chance to travel to Africa. I rarely leave CA.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

climber
ne'er–do–well
Aug 26, 2015 - 10:45pm PT
Got a job walking two dogs 3 times a day for a month or so on
some trails with elevation/ distance.



SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Nov 9, 2015 - 02:18pm PT
Been MTB or hiking almost every day, weather permitting. On rain days it's usually swimming and "gym" workout.
Yesterday a great ride at Mag 7 trails. Today hiking in Canyonlands at The Needles



Susan
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 9, 2015 - 02:41pm PT
ended last month with my birthday Medicare ride.



I was planning on making an attempt Friday on my 65th at the Baldy Ski Lifts.

There was a wind advisory with predicted gusts to 30 mph and I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid.

I got a 5:30 am start since I planed on taking my time. it's about 15 mi from the house to the start of GMR (Glendora Mt. Road) It became obvious that the only ones out that early on a Saturday morning are either still drunk or hung over and half asleep on their way to work. The olfactory senses can contribute to your safety. I could smell a doughnut shop a block or so before having to contend with the caffeine deprived drivers in a rush for their fix.

I passed a club gearing up for a Halloween ride at the base of the hill. The naughty nurse sag driver shouted out "do you need a nurse?". Declined the offer and headed up GMR. GMR was closed due to the holiday and fire danger. Kept it on the 32 most of the time and was dodging rocks and small bushes on the road the whole way. The wind had been blowing hard enough to uproot small bushes and even one dead tree was in the road. A CX bike with new 42 mm tires contributes a lot to confidence when there's that much crap on the road.

I got to Baldy Village a bit before 11:00 and figured I could top out by noon. That didn't happen. The last 8 miles is unrelenting and the last four are at a 400+ ft per mile grade, with one mile close to 500 ft. I started out stopping and resting after the first two switchbacks, then it was every switchback and finally twice per switchback.

After Manker Flats the grade kicks up again and I was reduced to walking the last 100 yards. I figured walking was less embarrassing than a tombay.
http://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus-50/806704-what-club-tombay.html

The naughty nurse and crew were all there and this time I said

"I need a nurse!!!"

Coming down from the top to the village is a real test of the brakes. the worst part of the ride back is the grade grinding back up out of Baldy Village to GMR and intervening uphills on the way back that certainly don't feel that steep on the way up. At least the county had run a blade down the road so no rocks and debris issue and a relaxed 25mph+ coast home.

I used three small leftover brown rice balls with soy sauce for electrolytes and a king size Payday for fuel. Didn't use much of the Gatorade, but ran the 3L Camelbak dry about 4 miles from home.

80 miles, 8,280 ft 7:50 ride time (don't think the ride time is correct, more like 10 hrs)



Took it easy Sunday and just did 59mi of flat
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 9, 2015 - 03:15pm PT
Ran 6.1 moderate tempo today, but next race is a January HM. Just general conditioning. I'm 67.

Last month, we climbed MT Mansfield in VT, camping enroute, did some "gold diamond" trails on the way down. Drove back to nyc, slept 4 hours and ran a Half Marathon on Staten Island. My time sucked. But it gave me a GE to the 2016 NYCM.
Inyokern

Trad climber
Inyokern, Ca
Nov 9, 2015 - 03:29pm PT
Inspired to leave work and hit the trail for a run. Cya.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2015 - 06:45pm PT
6.4 mile mtn bike ride
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 9, 2015 - 07:29pm PT
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Dec 15, 2015 - 11:42pm PT
I feel as though I have been lard-assifying since getting down off the wall.

Ran 3.8 miles yesterday night, 4.08 miles just now for 648 calories. Gonna have a beer!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Dec 16, 2015 - 04:48am PT
6.5 yesterday and 8.1 Monday. Havta push to close over 1,000 for 2015
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Dec 16, 2015 - 06:04am PT
Since knee replacement last November and development of Adult Onset Asthma (I thought it was allergies), it has been a rough and tumble aerobic year. I've managed only 1,253 miles. My goal was 3000.

I've been inconsistent at best, having to stop in the summer for 8 weeks (asthma) per doc's orders, I got to rolling again. At the end of D.S.T. I switched over to a mountain bike and we ride the gravel roads of local military base at night. Kind of scary at first; but I have gotten used to it. The miles are tougher and slower; but the work is good. There are no cars on base to speak of.

I ride the road bike on warm days.

I joined the "Y" to swim; but haven't started to date.

I hope I get a lot closer to my goal in 2016. I am very tempted to get some running in, although it is not advised by docs for replaced knees. There are plenty that do run on them, it merely shortens the life of the artificial meniscus.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 6, 2016 - 04:27am PT
In a slump, only a 10K so far for 2016, the Half got cancelled in the Blizzard.

I don't think I will Marathon this year, I do have a GE for NYCM. Only 21.2 miles so far this week. But a tempo session in there, that pretty well wiped me out.

Going to CO for some skiing tomorrow. Skiing and Mountain Biking can really mess up my running schedule. Worth it.
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Feb 6, 2016 - 04:40am PT
Hail the skin track, a stair master with reward. 3,000 + ft. yesterday, 15,000 + ft. in 3 days last week.

hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Feb 6, 2016 - 06:16am PT
8 km Wed 15 Thurs 16 Friday 15 planned for today. We got a foot of snow and like Lazarus the winter has been resurrected from the dead.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2016 - 02:34pm PT
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Mar 10, 2016 - 10:56am PT
Biked from my house in the hills down to Arroyo Seco this morning with my neighbor, bumped along cobble-stones until finding smooth going in the storm surge catchment, and a few miles toward the San Gabriels until blocked by a big construction crew cleaning up a downed tree.

That part was all easy, but I discovered today how brutal is the hill getting up to my house without gasoline. If I just go the mile down the hill to the grocery store every day on my bike, I will quickly get in great shape.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Mar 10, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
Yesterday did 10x50 yd. flat ground sprints followed by 10x20 yd uphills.

Today I'll do my usual Hiit session: 8x1/8 mile sprints broken up by 8x1/8 mile slow steadies.

Speed-Walked 4 miles with dog this morning.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Mar 10, 2016 - 01:31pm PT
78 km the last three days of skiing. It's all melting now so I'm running north to L. Superior
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Mar 10, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
Just read the last couple pages, seeking inspiration to get out on my mt. bike today and do some likely to be painful training for a local upcoming TT. Been doing mostly short rides (4 to 5 per week) but need to up my mileage to get into somewhat decent shape.

Age is starting to show. Seems if I take more than 1 or 2 days off, my conditioning starts to go downhill. What is with that?

Perfect riding weather of recent, with clear skies.

TGT, there is Mt Baldy off to the left.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Mar 11, 2016 - 06:08am PT
my conditioning starts to go downhill. What is with that?

I have the same problem, but we need the rest. Some of my older runner friends, take a week off, periodically.
A good idea, when you think of it, kind of like seeing the doctor when you are healthy, so there's a baseline, when you are wrecked.

I think of it like an ocean tide. When I rest, the energy, nutrients etc, are flowing in. When I expend them, everything flows out.
I take a day off, my body starts to heal at a deeper level. When I do resume running, there's a collision between the incoming and outgoing tides. It's not a bad thing, but the first couple of miles, after a day or two off and I feel like I'm coming apart.

I'm running 30 miles a week now, and doing a race every two weeks. Last Sundays 5 k, did not go well, I'm going to taper smarter for the Half Marathon next Sunday.
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Mar 11, 2016 - 12:06pm PT
Charlie- good you been getting out with all the snow you guys have been having. Looks like you're pretty bundled up on the up track, so it must've been cold!

Randy-please don't mention that age thing anymore.

I had a flight to Orange County last month on a morning that was clear the whole way. I couldn't stop looking out the window. Here's is a shot of the OC hills and Baldy. What really struck me though was how much land between those hills and Baldy iscovered by gigantic warehouses. Yikes!


Also one of A place you know pretty well.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2016 - 04:17pm PT
5.9 mile canyoneering trip
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Mar 11, 2016 - 04:24pm PT
Rick, great picture of Josh! Too bad all those bouldering pads ruin the shot.

Got a short (7.4 mile) pre-ride of the time trial course yesterday evening. Wow, not fun. A quick (11 mile) local ride this morning felt better and beat the much needed rain now pouring down.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Mar 28, 2016 - 10:56pm PT
Been going out the last few days, the weather shitty or whatever,
embrace ugly.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Mar 29, 2016 - 06:57am PT
A 10K Saturday, for the 4th race in 6 weeks. Hasn't been going particularly great time-wise. Turn my attention to other stuff after.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
Some running, mtn biking every other day or so, but mostly canyoneering right now..
Snow day today , so I guess I tooshouldembrace the ugly!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Apr 10, 2016 - 04:44pm PT
Working on some narrow single track, with sharp turns and some ledgy exposure.
Not the type of trail I'm very good on. Pucker factor kinda high. But I'm getting better at the sharp cornering. My new bike corners differently than my old one. This is more of a leaner than a hard turner.

A great day for "training riding"


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2016 - 06:59am PT
Train to be Wild!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Apr 11, 2016 - 08:44am PT
Geezers Gone Wild. ^^^^. (Reminds me of my old soccer team: Wheezers and Geezers, no one under 55 need apply)


Susan
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2016 - 07:41pm PT
Are there still people under 55?
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
May 5, 2016 - 12:29pm PT
Rode my bike for the first time in a long long time. Not sure how far I rode, but got a good sweat on and was breathing hard. A couple hours worth.

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 5, 2016 - 05:03pm PT
Been hitting the skiing pretty regularly hoping that it is keeping me in shape for the trails, as I have lagged on the Grand Canyon trips this winter. I did do 54 miles on the Escalante trail but that was in November.

Hiked Mt. San Jacinto from Humber Park last weekend and found that the skiing did nothing for me on the trail. So I have come to the conclusion that I have to start running again. I used to enjoy running, but have a hard time sticking to it now. Living at sea level screws you in the mountains. The Grand Canyon tops out at 8k (7k on the south rim) so it is not to much of a problem there.

Did 2.5 miles this morning and felt pretty good.

Skied into Virginia Lakes to ski Red Lake Bowl two weekends ago, my first backcountry ski trip. Short but really enjoyed it. That trip was not much a workout.




ShawnInPaso

climber
Paso Robles, CA
May 5, 2016 - 05:20pm PT
Are there still people under 55?

Apparently not JB.

I'm getting back into the groove running a bit more. As I age my pace sure has slowed though. Been noodling on the idea of doing a 50 miler as motivation to stick with it.

Was looking to buy a pair of Hoka's but the negative reviews changed my mind (narrow toe box, quickly wear out, etc.).
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
May 5, 2016 - 06:42pm PT
Don't believe the negative reviews. Hokas are really great shoes. If wide is really important, try the bondi wide ee. Or check eBay for old pairs of mafate 3s. A lot of runners like altra, but they suck once you have run in Hokas. I have been running Hokas for 4 years, still love them and have tried lots of other brands.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
May 5, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
Are there still people under 55?

No cool people.

Susan


WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
May 5, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
Hey now Susan, that's not nice!
























































55 isn't old.



























For a tree.
ShawnInPaso

climber
Paso Robles, CA
May 10, 2016 - 12:49pm PT
Don't believe the negative reviews. Hokas are really great shoes.

Okay atchafalaya. I've ordered up a pair of Bondi 4's (wide). We'll see how it goes. Went to the only place nearby to try them on, but they only had one pair of Bondi 3's. Funny thing, the "pair" included one size 9.5 and one size 10.5. Hard to make a sale that way, thus the online order.

I need to lose a ton of weight and I keep eyeing the American River 50. I figure all that training is sure to take off the pounds, or kill me - either way I'll make my weight loss goals. ;)
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
May 10, 2016 - 02:34pm PT
Dang WuyoRockMan, been awhile since I have seen a Bullseye hub and a Ritchey rim, love that Sh!t!

Been on the bike a fair bit but went for a dirt-bike campout this last weekend and got my full body aerobic gig on on some trails of all sorts. Man, I need better fitness. At least it is early. I have been in the gym for about a month doing PT so I can run again and hopefully really get the lungs cranking!
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
May 10, 2016 - 02:57pm PT
Damn! Beautiful photo on your March 29th post, Jaybro. Makes me want to write a story.

Then I remembered...I don't write so good.
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
May 10, 2016 - 04:19pm PT
Got out on the splitboard today. Had to cross this road about halfway up and you can see there's still a lot of snow around. Spring conditions: sun at the bottom and a white out at the top .

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2016 - 04:21pm PT
Bicycling to pull plastic! Cause the sandstone is wet and it could be irresponsible....

Susan actually some of your recent houseguests were under 55 and cool!
What about the blonde who watched the Swedish movies with us? Pretty sure she's under 55....
I'm canyoneering in the morning. It's aerobic, the way I, do it.....
perswig

climber
Jul 23, 2016 - 12:49pm PT
Runners, any opinions on Altra kicks (found rare references on ST search)? My knees, torn menisci and all, have oddly agreed to a conditional truce program of short (4-5mi) trail/dirtroad runs couple times weekly, and I am mildly interested in the zero-drop thing.

In Brooks GTS-15 at the moment, wide forefeet, no current arch issues, wonky right ankle so stability reasonably important.

Zero-drop, 'stack'? WTF, over, as the good Dr. Sprock would say.
Any feedback, alternatives, appreciated.

Dale
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jul 23, 2016 - 01:15pm PT
I'm finding I have to be doing above 30 miles a week to really appreciate the racing flats. My times love the flats, but my feet and lower leg are sore after, if my training is low. Unless I'm putting in the mileage, then it is good.
If your doing trails, you should consider something with a springy toe. You'll get fewer black toes.
perswig

climber
Jul 23, 2016 - 04:12pm PT
Thanks, John. I've read some people actually get some shin/knee relief with zero-drop, and esp Achilles tendon pain, although it sounds as though it may be from adjusting your stride and strike, not the actual cushion. I don't think my current terrain will cause toe issues, but maybe if I start branching out a bit...

Dale
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jul 23, 2016 - 10:45pm PT
Dale, start doing a light series of dead lifts to provide some balance to the hamies and glutes. This will help you lessen the effort required by the calves shins, and lower quads around the knee. Shorten yer stride and be quiet on yer feet! Flats can help develop a soft mid-foot/toe strike but should be considered a strengthening tool for a while as you get stronger. Duffield's thoughts seem in line.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jul 23, 2016 - 11:15pm PT
Shorten yer stride and be quiet on yer feet
Spoken like a true practitioner.
perswig

climber
Jul 24, 2016 - 03:14am PT
Ha, I'm MR. short-stride, from the way-back humping-a-ruck days. Would motor by the tall guys, esp under load.
Translates into a good skinning pace, too.

You're right about the strength thing, though. Never was a big weight guy ("Do you even lift, bro?"), but I think the only reason my knees are cooperating now is I've been swimming again, working on my kick, which has helped both upper and lower legs. Happy not to have any specific foot or shin soreness so far. I'll see if the knees will tolerate dead-lift or shallow squats.

I'd still like to see if maybe a rotation of shoes might be helpful.
Thanks!
Dale
perswig

climber
Jul 24, 2016 - 05:54am PT
...provide some balance to the hamies and glutes.

Wait, were you checking out my ass?
Dale
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2017 - 06:22pm PT
New year, new program.
Today's trail run in the snow!
Started my annual early season pullup routine. Started with ten on January first. Adding one more each day till mid march or so. I take rest days, but make up the difference on other days.

Today's run;

And 18 pull-ups
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2018 - 06:43pm PT
Again new year new program.
I had a 41 day streak of running, bicycling or approach days averaging multiple miles up untilFeb 10, when I started a wfr recent Class. 41 days in a row didn't seem bad.
Ran three miles today, some aerobic workout of over a mile a day from the 13th through today.

I also started my one more pull-up a day thing on January 1, so today is 54 pull-ups day. As deference to my age, 61b, I'm considering any missed pull-up days as rest days, and not making them up, unlike other years...

In addition, since I'm doing physical therapy for the shoulder I dislocated last May
Those exercises has become a major part of my workout.

I've climbed maybe seven days in the creek, but up one new route, 5.11 x two pitches.
Dozens of Boulder problems etc.
since I have record ll this electronically I'll get a specific count goin here soon.

So what has everyone else been doing? I know Gary carpenter and John Evens have significant mileage in
zBrown

Ice climber
Feb 23, 2018 - 10:42pm PT
Long time no see.

My experience. Ymmv.

I started doing sympathy walking with Michele after her knee surgery. I slacked off running.

If you're around 70 (which I am) it's hard to get back to where you once belonged.

My advice is to be sympathetic, but continue your own program independently.

I can still do pretty good distance, albeit much more slowly than before. Not necessarily bad but time consuming.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2018 - 04:23am PT
I'm slower than ever. And it's taken a longer time to get back I to itthisuear.

Since I guide during the warm months, the predawn time tha I would use for trail running largely gets used in guiding projects. So I let the running slide. I do a lot of hiking with large packs,asaguide, so I retain some level of aerobic fitness, but is just not the same.... Age does not seem to help with this.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2018 - 04:51pm PT
Yesterday’s workout was a tower solo, well, the Parriott mesa descent route, to be exact, 6 Miles round trip, via ferrataing, 5th class chimneys, some fixed ropes and unexpected treacherous snow/ice/loose rocks. / shrubbery obstacles on the north facing part of the approach! Full value!



hiking poles saved my life but I would def take yak tracks or similar instep crampons in similarconditions!

1200’ elevation gain!
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Feb 27, 2018 - 05:26pm PT
I'm nearly 70 too, and it's more difficult to get back into decent mileage. A half Marathon last month before my trip and then around 3 weeks without running. Can't get much above 3 yet and a hard 5K Sunday. Won't go well.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Feb 28, 2018 - 04:50pm PT
Ahhhh - doesn't matter. You are getting it done.

My last few weeks before retirement - having some trouble getting out every day, that old responsibility gene keeping me tehtered to the desk too long. I am so looking forward to having more control over my life and training. Can't depend on youthful energy to carry the day. GOt to rely on that training.

Ran 8 at lunch in the cold rain. Felt better than yesterday's goose egg followed by beers with the boys after work.
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Apr 25, 2018 - 09:21pm PT
I'm about three weeks into my cardio rehab from my MI in March. My cardio therapist is letting me do "long" duration workouts finally. Last week she let me run the ticker up to 140 for 30 minutes. This week we're working on shorter bursts to 160. Baby steps.


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2018 - 10:23pm PT
Since I
Killed
My ( used) Apple Watch.

Anyone have special advice on buying and using a Fitbit? Looking on eBay, what’s the best to look for? What’s best avoided? Features?

All beta appreciated!

And oh yeah aerobics, missed sushifest to climb Zoroaster temple in the Grand Canyon!
5 people. 4 days and according to mtn project; 32 Miles, 20000’ elevation change. And a five pitch route!
More to follow
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Nov 5, 2018 - 08:06am PT
I ran 2.2 (edit: was 2.4) hilly miles in Los Altos this morning. Had a few moments of stroboscopic vision, sweated a bit, right knee a tiny bit sore toward the end... overall a worthy effort for me. Gotta start somewhere!

Actually wifey and I started a few months ago doing a 1 hour daily core body workout at Pop Physique - sort of a pilates meets ballet barre class thing. I'm the only dude in a class full of women, but it's an awesome activity for general fitness, flexibility, and complementary to climbing strength. It has done wonders for dropping my pot belly, got some washboard abs trying to peak through if I can drop the rest of the fat, and overall way more solid and strong legs and butt and shoulders. It's not a cardio workout, but it does get my shirt pretty wet with sweat and gets me sputter-spitting struggling to breathe.

But today wifey is in class alone in SoCal, I just saw the kids off to school in NorCal, and I don't have to rush to airport so I had time for a workout on my own. Sort of a milestone that I pushed myself to do it with no external trigger.


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thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Nov 5, 2018 - 08:17am PT
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John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 5, 2018 - 05:31pm PT

I ran 3.2 today. I've cut the running down a bit to do more rowing and weights. I found the rowing really helps before a backpack trip and kayaking.
I did the Fifth Ave Mile again this year. Didn't do well, did much better in a training run a few days before and wonder if that dragged me down. Liked training for it however the thrill of jacking the speed up short distances. The first time I ran it, I wondered if I would die that day.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
Congrats on not dying!
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