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Chairman Meow
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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Jan 20, 2011 - 09:07pm PT
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The shirt says, "Love your Planet. Kill your dog."
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Rudder
Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
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Jan 20, 2011 - 09:11pm PT
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You ever work with Siberians??? Strong willed, stubborn and lovable, mine bit the gardner when he got too close to the brand new cow bone. Everyone else got big wet kisses.
Check this list:
http://petrix.com/dogint/intelligence.html
When you get past the top 20 it's not so fun, to me. Especially in Siberian territory... Boxers are right there and they are pretty dumb, imo. Now, don't get me wrong, they'll all come out as happy lover dogs if you give them to me. But, "stupid is as stupid does." lol I can make an insecure dog secure (hence happy) but I can't make a dumb one smart. As you go from 1 to 79 on the list obedience gets tougher and tougher. The reason it gets not fun to me is that I have to match their intensity. For the top 10 dogs that is practically no more than talking in a whisper. For the last 40 probably a shock collar set to redline. lol Effective, but I don't enjoy that. Best dog in the world to train, a Border Collie mutt. :)
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Jan 20, 2011 - 09:17pm PT
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Rudder, we just got a border collie mutt. He already comes back--like a shot--on a whistle, raised hand or voice call. And I'm no dog whisperer.
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R.B.
Big Wall climber
Land of the Lahar
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Jan 20, 2011 - 09:52pm PT
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I walk about 50 feet away, and then yell at the owners (two girls) "your friggin dog just bit me in the kneecap!" They respond: "He has never bitten anyone BEFORE!" I said, well, he has NOW!
Every owner thinks their dog is a good dog and (edit: that they won't bite anyone), ... until the first time they do. Any dog can bite or nip, even your dog or a yappin chihuahua
I do not trust dogs, and will kick one in the snout if they come near me again when I am climbing or hiking. Why? See above.
PLEASE LEAVE THE HOUNDS HOME!
(edit: you as an owner can face criminal charges and get sued for a dog bite)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 20, 2011 - 10:01pm PT
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Can you name any dog experts - guys who actually know what they're doing around dogs - who say the proper way to deal with a dog is to exhibit fear and aggression toward it?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 20, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
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Would that be leaded or unleaded fear and aggression?
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altelis
Mountain climber
DC
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Jan 20, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
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We've got a Bearded/Border Collie Mutt.
She's got (most) of the border collie smarts.
She's got the affection and mellower family demeanor of the beardies.
Luckily she's not got a full beardie coat, but it is long enough i think a good shaving would make things easier!
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Rudder
Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
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Jan 21, 2011 - 07:54pm PT
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I have two Cavaliers which are true companion dogs (bred to sit with the ladies in England) that have extremely high prey drives (meaning they like to hunt and chase things). The enjoy being outside and think that everyone they see should be their new best friend. I have taken them hiking with me when I can watch them and monitor their behavior. I have never taken them when I climb. I am either focused on climbing or belaying, leaving me no time to monitor the dogs. To be courteous to others I never take my dogs anywhere I cannot keep an eye on them and monitor them continually.
To me being a responsible dog owner is understanding that not everyone is a dog person and many people either truly dislike dogs or are afraid of them.
My thoughts on dogs at a crag are that if you are going to bring one make sure it is leashed and controlled. Make sure that it is not where it could bother other people. You should respect the others around you and not force your beliefs/ opinions upon the others around you. As you may have the right to have your dog with you, others have the right to have a dog free environment.
I guess boils down to treat others like you want to be treated.
Eric
I dig that kinda thoughtfulness and consideration of others. We are all we know for sure we have in this universe... we should support each other. Nice post, Eric. :)
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