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Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 6, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
Outstanding achievement, but in a realm of diminishing returns not unlike today's time differences in running and swimming. The odds are good no one is going to do a sub-hour NAID. How realistic do you suppose a sub two-hour NAID is? Probably our equivalent of the four-minute-mile.

That amounts to a .37 second improvement per year between 1954 when four minutes was broken to the current 1999 record which is 16.41 seconds faster after 45 years. It's also interesting to note we spent 21 years in 3:5x territory and have spent the last 35 years in the realm of 3:4x. Looking closer at that it took eight years to push from 3.46 to 3:44 and six years to get to 3:43. In the eleven years since no one has repeated that feat. Wicked fast.

Big Wall climber
From Back to Big Wall Baby
Nov 6, 2010 - 11:09pm PT

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 7, 2010 - 02:36am PT
"There you are, dear, 20 seconds faster than last night.
Now hand me that cigarette, will you?"

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 7, 2010 - 02:42am PT
Well, ruck me funning.

Edit- Hey Phil. Como estas?

Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
Nov 7, 2010 - 02:48am PT
Now that's smoking up that cliff!

Matthew 25:40
Nov 7, 2010 - 09:52am PT

Nov 7, 2010 - 10:00am PT
"20 seconds is insignificant, they have to do better than that."

Right. Says the guy who got belayed for three pitches of a "solo."

Gym climber
wussing off the topout on Roadside Attraction
Nov 7, 2010 - 10:22am PT
Ouch! Easy there Mike. 20 seconds over 2 1/2 hours is nobody's idea of crushing the old time. Maybe not 'insignificant', but not hugely different.

Big Wall climber
Las Vegas, Nv
Nov 7, 2010 - 10:36am PT
boy 20 secs made a big difference to your wife the other night...

What a bitching thing for these guys to be doing. Chest pounding? Are we the ones witting about this or are they? Jealousy is a bitter thing, good for the boys, I hope they send again and faster. 5 secs or 20 secs or 5 minutes, they have the record and that is a pretty cool thing to go to bed thinking about in my opinion.

Kurt "Burt" Arend

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Nov 7, 2010 - 10:55am PT
Of course the margins will get smaller and smaller...you start to approach the limits of human performance. Nice job guys.

Hudon, when you go sub 4hrs let us know, Mr. Badass.

Gym climber
Nov 7, 2010 - 11:40am PT
Big Up to Dean and Stanley.

Is there a margin of error in the timekeeping? I mean, do all parties keep track the exact same way?

It's funny to imagine what you were doing during those same 2 1/2 hours. I probably made a cup of coffee, washed some dishes, and S, S, & S.

They? The Nose!!!

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Nov 7, 2010 - 11:44am PT
How do they get get timed ? Independent judges?

Trad climber
Nov 7, 2010 - 11:49am PT
Kudos to Dean and Sean! I'm sure the wheels are already turning at Hans house for Spring. Woohoo, we got some action going!
I'm sure if Mark lived a little nearer the Valley, he would have no problem going 4 hours, the guys a animal. and he is simply stating the obvious. That when you selftime, 20 seconds is not a hugely definitive victory, but it is victory non the less. Maybe as the time margins are now so very very close, its time for Tom(or someone) to hold the stopwatch at the bridge and "go" and "stop" are called out. Just a thought.

Nov 7, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
They had a talking countdown stopwatch I believe.

I talks.

1 hour to go ...

1/2 hour to go ...

10 minutes to go ...

Like that .....

Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
Nov 7, 2010 - 12:16pm PT
the wilderness has become an outdoor gym for chest beating egomaniacs...

The Nose is 100 yards from the road in the middle of one of the biggest tourist destinations in the country. Complaining about this is like complaining about Muscle Beach getting too "showy."

Proud send guys. Always inspirational.

Nov 7, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
The Nose is 100 yards from the road

Uuummmm correction!

Did you measure?

Much farther .... :-)
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Nov 7, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
Yards, in this case, refers to the average suburban yard.

Nov 7, 2010 - 12:25pm PT
Why you clever rascal you .....
John Galt

Big Wall climber
puerta Natales, Chile
Nov 7, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
Awesome job! Way to go Sean and Dean!

I would love to see how you did it, I hope some cameras were rolling. PLEASE let us all know if you go again, I would love to watch in person.



Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
Nov 7, 2010 - 12:49pm PT
time for a "time clock" at the base and at the summit.
You would now punch in at the base and punch out at the summit.... Just another day at the office
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