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Kist
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 24, 2002 - 06:52pm PT
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Whats the deal... is this true or just a fable? Anybody have any fun anecdotes about the alleged incident?
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 07:33pm PT
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Dude your livin in the past. Shut up.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 07:52pm PT
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first and only time i smoked the stuff was summer of '77 on th summit of mt whitney. guys with the sthuff were a couple of climbers clad in the newest marmot gear (funded by proceeds from sale of the green...
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 09:01pm PT
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Shut up guys I'm serious.
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read the book
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 09:16pm PT
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The fish you're trolling for has published several collections of climbing lore including the story of the crashed plane. While many of us love to read his contributions to this site, maybe you oughtta pony up a few bucks on one of his fine books.
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Curious
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 09:16pm PT
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OK, I'll take the bait...what the hell are you guys talking about?
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Matt M
Intermediate climber
SF, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 09:26pm PT
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Lynn Hill's new Bio has details and numerous john long books cover it as well. Trivia Fact - JL used the story as baisis for the CLiffhanger screenplay
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Matt M
Intermediate climber
sf, ca
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Nov 24, 2002 - 09:27pm PT
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Or that's what I read somewhere - correct me if i'm wrong...
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Smokey
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 09:51pm PT
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its true, i was there. the plane crashed in lower merced lake. a piece of the plane was found by a local skier. the feds came and decieded to leave it until spring. some climbers went up and started chopping in the ice and found bales of pot soaked in jet fuel. some other climbers brought up chain saws and cut the ice and got all the pot. by the time i got there you could barely walk on the ice but you could see the plane underwater. jack dorn got the pilots vest with a little black book, much $$$ and some cocaine. the owners of the flight found out and wanted to meet him. he was to meet them at the old mr bar one rainy fall night but a rescue was called on lost arrow. he fell off the falls trail in the dark past columbia point, or was he pushed?? the rescue call turned out to be bogus.
all true
btw the pot would sometimes flash up in flames from the jet fuel, way good dude!
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2002 - 10:57pm PT
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"the owners of the flight found out and wanted to meet him. ....he fell off the falls trail in the dark past columbia point, or was he pushed?? "
WOW. i had heard the part of about the rescue (fell? pushed?). but did not know the "owners" wanted to meet him, nor that the rescue was a false alarm.
one other thing i always wondered... about a month after the gold, er green rush... kauk, sutton, burton and? bard? went and did a late winter ascent of the NA. was that just a way to get the hell outta dodge to avoid the ranger danger?
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 12:05am PT
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Look. Its time to really shut up now.
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Curious
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 01:28am PT
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So what's lynn hill have to do with it? - George
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minusafewbraincells
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 03:39am PT
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Yes, I do recall a somewhat kerosene like taste to that stuff. Did the trick though.
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...Dmnt
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 08:44am PT
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Um, no name?
What's with all the "Look. Its time to really shut up now."
You paranoid? Still expecting your bad juj-ju payback?
Or just plain stupid.
My guess is stupid, so shut the f*#k up; this is essential climbing history.
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Largo
Novice climber
Venice, Ca
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Nov 25, 2002 - 12:39pm PT
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Yo,
I wrote a pretty extensive bit on the whole shebang in a book entitled "Rock Jocks, wall rats and hang dogs," but have no idea if it's still in print. There's another article, called Bird's Boys, that details some of the fine points about the plane crash and weed fandango. I didn't know the "facts" abot the Dorn story related on this thread, but it sounds a bit sketchy to me--like an out take from the Godfather. But who knows. That was 25 years ago and things tend to get fogged over and embroidered as time goes by . . .
JL
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BP
Intermediate climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 02:39pm PT
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What the hell is noname talking about?
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 03:00pm PT
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I dunno-
but I'm shakin in my shoes over here!
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 05:18pm PT
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I think no name is Donny just trying to stir up trouble.
But come on old farts. More tales of yore..
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Demented
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 05:37pm PT
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J Elvis,
You wrote, "I wrote a pretty extensive bit ..yada yada....but have no idea if it's still in print. "
Now, help me out here but..doncha get royalty checks or sumsuch? Wouldn’t you know if pennies were still dribbling in from the proceeds of that book?
And P.S.- GREAT BOOK. I keep a copy near the throne for contemplative reading.
One thing I found glaring however; ALLl references to Rasta Tobacca had been scrubbed assiduously clean. Was it your editors forcing you to toe the PC line? Do you regret not painting the complete picture?
Knowing what life was like back then (and now), some of the stories lacked authenticity by said exclusion (such as~~ the description of a bivy complete with some “liquor filched from Dad’s liqueur cabinet??” come on… you were scrolling endless reefers during that and most other bivis…
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Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2002 - 05:56pm PT
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I heard a few years ago that the plane was actually owned by some drug baron named Jose Montoya and he was real pissed that a bunch of climbers cashed in on his goods. Apparently, he died having not achieved retribution and charged his son, Paco, with the task of seeking vengence on not only the perpetrators of the 'theft' but also on the entire Climbinati.
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