Sobriety (off topic or not)?


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Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 18, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Took me 5 1/2 years to stop taking the ex's inventory. My first step toward actually getting my life back.

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 18, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
Between the ages of 15 and 24ish I would eat, drink, smoke and snort anything you put in front of me

For me this was true from 13 to 54. Literally. All of the days. I used to snort coke at my desk when I worked for the navy, get hammered during lunch when I was running parks. And if you didn't put it in front of me, by God I'd go find it. I do not recommend this.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 18, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
Interestingly I quit doing most of the drugs in my teens. did some coke in the eightys but never as a habbit. Smoked some pot in the mid nintys but again not a habbit just ocasional recreation. an 8th of an ounce of good weed would last me about a year or so. Beer and whisky on the other hand had a short life expectancy in my presence right up untill 2006..

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
I had a program friend over here today and was reflecting on my last few months of using, when I'd wake up three or four times in the night and would have to take a stiff one to fall back asleep and - I thank my lucky stars for sobriety. Drunkalogues are not my favorites but sometimes it is instructive to remember the dark nights.


Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Jan 19, 2013 - 10:02am PT
The blackouts were the scariest. I never knew where I would end up. It was just like adventure but frightening. I don't miss that part. In fact I don't miss much of the insanity.

It was really quit or die. I chose life. And what a life it has been.
I stayed alive long enough to learn to climb and meet the soul mate I thought I would never have. She is a rock climbin babe. I am a blessed man.

It's OK we are together now
It's OK we are together now
Credit: Plaidman

Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
Jan 19, 2013 - 11:15am PT
sweet plaidman,
you were post 1096
on the sobriety thread.

a special # among us freaks.
im glad to hear of anyone
with some wellness in their heart.
joe boy

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
I don't usually post up, but getting sober 13 years ago literally saved my life. Like Largo, it took several stiff ones to get me back to sleep at night. swallowing vomit and ending up in coma after going septic was not quite my bottom. Fell into a couple more until I found recovery.

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
Speaking of using Al-Anon....

Last night I saw I had a phone message from one of my brothers. He'd called at 6pm my time - 8pm his. He was drunk, and began demanding me to call him back. "Call me back. Do you hear me? DO. YOU. HEAR. ME? CALL. ME. BACK. It's nearing the end of civilization, I ain't got much time...."

No, I did not call my brother back last night. I waited until this morning, when at least he had a chance of being sober.

My brother has brain damage. Whether it is directly from alcohol usage or from the head injuries he suffered when he ran a truck into a tree while drunk, I do not know. He has a dent the size of a quarter in his skull, and when it is raining, even the slightest bit, he likes to play a parlor trick where he tilts his head to collect the rain, and then tips it out.

So, I called. And when he didn't say much I said "well, I am calling in response to your demand I do so last night. What's going on?"

He said "I was wondering what your reaction would be. Well, what's your reaction?"

Not sure what to say, my pause was luckily long enough that he must have forgotten he'd asked a question, and began his ramblings of how difficult and painful his life is. I imagine it is painful, being that one of his calfs looks more like hamburger under skin, from when he accidentally shot himself with a sawed-off shotgun(shining deer in upstate Wisconsin, along with my other brother - 200 miles from the nearest hospital.)

Oh yes, talking with Al is always an experience.

Today I learned that my mother's family has it's fortune buried beneath Fort Ticonderoga, for example. And that he stupidly told an IRS person about the money and then not two days had gone by when the US government handed 45 million dollars to each and every state... He did the math, and said "Where do YOU think the government can come up with 2.5 billion dollars?"

I listened, and when the next pause came, I asked him how he felt about the potential new gun laws. I did this because he had said "I'm not as delusional as everyone thinks," and I didn't want to go there. Instead I gave him a topic which I knew he would have an opinion on.(Cold dead hands, gun grab, can make a gun with the materials in the basement)...

And when we hung up 15 minutes later, I let it go. There is really not much I can do for my brother.

He called me back just now, because he had remembered something and wanted to tell me. He apologized for waking me up. I have no idea why he thought he was waking me....

There is no turning back for my brother. He's passed the point of return, even if he never takes another drink so long as he lives. My family is lucky because he seems to find people willing to have him as a room mate - I guess his share of the rent, coming from disability, is attractive to them. But I do wonder when the time will come that my brothers and sisters and I will need to sit down and decide what is to become of him.

Though my life never took the turns that his has, how do I really know that my fate might not have been the same had I kept drinking?

I don't. There but for the grace, go I.

I love you, brother Al, and I am grateful I am not walking in your shoes.

Jan 19, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
The greatest advice I ever got in Alanon was from an old timer. I was complaining about not knowing what to do with an impossible significant other. He said, "Leave her alone." In other words: Let her work her own program. Or not. Anything else is playing God, and that doesn't work for sh#t.

I am learning that. It's a hard, hard truth. But I am going to try not to nag, scare, pester, or rub her nose in it.

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 23, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
I'm really struggling today. I'm acting like a crazy bitch, letting people hurt me when otherwise I wouldn't I'm confused. not to mention lashing out at people that don't need it. wtf. thats all I got right now.


Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
If you need to yell at someone Michelle, I'm here for you! jk. I know how you feel, wait a bit it'll pass. How about a bubble bath, some chocolate cake, and a good movie?

Jan 23, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
Yeah not letting people get to you can be a struggle. I've been struggling with that myself lately and I've been sober years. Just remember that it will pass and clarity is within your grasp.

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:12pm PT
thanks bob. I may hit you up on that. I don't want overly vent about crap here though. it doesn't help I was not successful staying sober. I'll just keep on trying.

Trad climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
Yup - keep trying. That is the key.

Trad climber
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
Credit: happiegrrrl

Someone posted this on their FB page. Cute and funny, and so glad I don't come up with cute and funny things to deflect the fact that I am/was a lush.
Off White

Tenino, WA
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
I can imagine that sometimes Supertopo is not conducive to staying sober.

Trad climber
Feb 1, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Or it can show you how wonderful it is to BE sober, knowing full well that there are plenty out there still sick and suffering.

Feb 1, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
Well, no progress with my sweetie and our relationship is deteriorating. She claims to have quite drinking but I dunno, quitting, assuming she has actually done that, is as I have learned only the first layer of a very complicated onion. And still, she defects anger at me over things that frankly, I did not do wrong. I guess the term is "dry drunk"? (again, assuming she is dry) It beats talking about her issues, I suppose.

Alanon helps.


Trad climber
Feb 4, 2013 - 08:08pm PT

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference

I don't need a drink. I don't even WANT a drink. I am SO grateful beyond GRATEFUL that my mind is no longer clouded by the smoke and mirrors of drugs and booze. That I can see clearly now, the rain is gone.....

When I am feeling sick and tired of the baloney that is in my life at a moment in time, I sigh and, remembering that old bath oil commercial, say "Calgon - take me away!"

But just for today, it's a little different....

Al-Anon...take me away!

Feb 18, 2013 - 01:21am PT
Feeling a bit mopey.

I silently said the serenity prayer before a counseling session with her on Friday.

She said sorry to me then ended it.

The prayer helped me.

I think of the things we could have had together. I thought we could have had it all.

In truth, it could never have been. The disease made sure it could never be.

I need to accept that, let go, and move on.

Alcoholism can be cruel.

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