Sobriety (off topic or not)?


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Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
Aug 30, 2014 - 12:11am PT
'Ode to a Birthday

Your birthday comes,
Your birthday goes,
There's no disgrace,
Or birthday woes,

Live only once,
For all we know,
We know not where,
The years did go,

But lives we've lived,
And winds that blow,
Will always help,
The flowers grow,

As we may reap,
What we may sow,
With all our baggage,
Left in tow,

Another birthday,
You well know,
Means not to stop,
And not to slow,

But don't forget,
To watch the show,
With every tide,
And ebb and flow.


Trad climber
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:10pm PT
<rant>FURIOUS - the rest of the rant was redacted before I clicked the "post" button</rant>

GRRRRRRR.......Having a dry-drunk moment. I don't want to drink but have fantasized about driving my car off a precipice, or smashing the person whose behavior has made me furious in the face.

Partly due to working in high humidity heat for 8 hours, cooked well done, and and getting a call from supervisor moments before leaving for the day. Would it REALLY have been so difficult for him to have waited until the next available day to talk to me about a customer's complaint? Now my energy is buzzing with anger and the only cure will be to sleep it off.

Writing(sharing) is helping. Thanks, all you vicarious Sobriety Threaders....


Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:36pm PT
Hang in there Happy!

Grab somethin good!

atleast you got a job, and no cat.

i don't have a job, and just got a kitten, and it's summertime in Josh.


Social climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 2, 2014 - 04:21pm PT
I was a stoned hippie drunk,
Back in the seventies when I thought it was fun,

Good lines.

Good on everyone here.

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Sep 3, 2014 - 06:44am PT
For me this is pertinent to climbing. Drinking and drug use are a part of our sub-culture. Be careful youth. The power of substances can eclipse the joy of the activity.

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Oct 30, 2014 - 06:31am PT
i take notes on my meandering relationship with alcohol.

the pattern for me, lately is this:

life is in order. bills paid. businesses thriving.
relationships hearty.

emotionally i celebrate my accomplishments
by f*#king off and drinking into oblivion.
i still take compromised care; i continue to push the cart.
though, understandably my achievements diminish
inversely proportional to the flow of my diesel.

then things come apart, slowly.
i see them fraying so i reel in the beast
and clean out the hydraulics because
i fear for the greater health of my father-sphere.

slowly shite coagulates and again i'm floating
on top of the pond, sc#m-like.

my heart reddens and i lean again towards celebrating
the shine all about me.

so i f*#k up. unf*#k up. and then repeat.

i propose to myself that alcoholism
really becomes a problem for me, if i continue
to micro-drink when i see things coming apart.

so i stop just long enough to get the ship a-righted,
and then i walk the plank thus upsetting the
center-of-life's-gravity and the ship tilts askew.

i only imbibe when there are rays of warm sun on my toes.

right now them toes are freezing and i'm staying out of adolf's bed.

Trad climber
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
Bump for sobriety, n all it's shapes and colors.

I thought about having a drink once while I was in migration from the east coast. SO glad that it was a fleeting thought, that I was bedded down for the night(I am lazy and unlikely to get up once I'm comfy in bed), and that my next thought(I do talk to myself. Frequently, out loud and in my head) was "Ummm, bad thinking. Change topic!"

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 1, 2014 - 04:42pm PT
One year in ~nine weeks. Boom.

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Dec 1, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
Cheering for you.

I know the holiday season is tough.


Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 1, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
Congrats, Bob!

New Years Day will be exactly 4 1/2 years for me, and just seeing this post again shocked me into remembering that oh yeah, I'm an alcoholic. I genuinely don't think like that anymore, it's not even in my realm of possibility.

I know it's not like that for everyone, but it will get easier regardless if you find what works for you and continue work it.

Keep up the good work!
Woody the Beaver

Trad climber
Soldier, Idaho
Dec 1, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
I surprised myself this summer. Got to the top of Borah (idaho high point) with a couple of people I met on the hike up. We figured out the date from the summit register: August 15, my 12th anniversary of no flammable fluid intake! I'd forgotten! Man, am I grateful. One of my fellow summiteers that day is an old drug/drink refurb job like me and we had a laugh about it. Turned out we'd both known and admired Bill Forrest from long ago, and said RIP to that graceful guy. Good day to be high and sober.

Trad climber
Dec 2, 2014 - 10:19am PT
BVB, you got around New Years? You brave dog, you! Or maybe it was "you tired dog, you" hahah Good Luck!

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Dec 2, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
Heyas gang.

I haven't posted on here in a while, but after reading back a bit I have seen a lot of talk lately about the good and bad in AA.

I was sober for about 2 years before I went to an AA meeting. It was a good thing that I did, because I was on the edge of picking up again. I spent the next few years in AA, and contribute that as an important part of my sobriety.

Keep in mind that my personal journey through AA was different then most; I didn't follow the "canon" to a T but took what I could use and set aside the rest. Everyone has the right to work their own program, and I had serious issues with the religious part of AA and never got into that. There was also a lot of hypocrisy and "us versus them" mentality in a lot of the rooms that I went to, and a huge amount of drama which is anathema to me. In the end, I couldn't find a room that didn't have these elements, and I set the meeting aspect of AA aside and continued my program with the added tools that I found in the rooms. It's continued to work for me for over 14 years now.

One thing that people should realize is that when AA was formed, religion was still a driving overall force in society. Nearly everyone went to church then and religion was taken as a social standard. Being as the books hold true to the original works, it will probably always be a part of AA. That doesn't mean that you have to accept that part - I have seen the religious aspect scare off a lot of people who truly need the help that AA can provide.

There has been mention here that "5 to 10% of people in AA succeed" but remember this - if there was no AA, that success would be 0% for some people.

It IS possible to attend AA, work the steps, and get sober without becoming religious or becoming a "book beater." So you shouldn't let that stop you from at least giving it a try. Like me, you can decide to attempt to work the program using what works for you and leaving aside what you can't come to terms with. But you need to accept the fact that your recovery may be harder, and you may not succeed the first few times.

The truth is that if you go to AA, and follow every single line, you will stay sober. You may only be a dry drunk, but you will be sober and can hopefully "fake it until you make it."

I am coming up on a trip which is probably going to stress some very deep and very emotional triggers for me. I am going back to my home town for the first time in over 10 years, and will be dealing with family and friends of my family that I haven't spoken to since I was a kid. I will have to deal with discussing the rift with my father, whom I have not spoken to in 20 years. All of these things are troubling to me, and I know that even with the time I have, I am going to have to be on "high alert." Even in longer term sobriety, you must never let your guard down.

The holiday season can be one of the toughest for those of us who are alcoholic. Stay strong, keep your phone close with a friend you can talk to, and take it one day at a time. Or a minute at a time. Or a second at a time. Strength and positive thoughts to you all.
Jebus H Bomz

Old West Crackramento
Dec 13, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
Hey, thanks for the rec, I'll have to check it out.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 13, 2014 - 07:17pm PT
Hoh man, what a powerful movie!
Jebus H Bomz

Old West Crackramento
Dec 13, 2014 - 10:11pm PT
Damn! Paused halfway through for now, but those Hemmingways are f*#king crazy!

The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
Dec 26, 2014 - 11:54am PT
Holydaze bump

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 5, 2015 - 11:09pm PT
Whiskey. Todilhil, the Navajos had a named it. Water of Darkness if you translated that word into bilingaana language. But Navajos sometimes mispronounced it. Todilhaal, they'd say. Making it mean "sucking in darkness," and enjoying the wry irony of the pun. Death slept in the bottle, only waiting to be released.

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Jan 8, 2015 - 05:30pm PT
just checking in, seems there is a need

Trad climber
Jan 25, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
6 months today. no bullshit for real.

Not ever even tempted.

I feel like I have half as much work to do and lots more money, but the best part of all is in my head. Free and clear these days.

I offer my posting history as proof ;).

I've always watched this thread because I always knew.

Thanks for all the insights.
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