Sobriety (off topic or not)?


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El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
May 27, 2014 - 01:53pm PT
Hey Jebus,
Nice post.
Good job staying straight on the long and winding road.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 27, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
Great post Jebus.

Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
May 27, 2014 - 02:54pm PT
Alcoholism and Drug addiction has affected to some degree every family I have ever known. I have been clean and sober since August 17th, 1989. Most of the people I have met who have tried to get sober don't get it on the first try. Some of them who couldn't have died, and others continue to live in the nightmare cycle of drinking/using, remorse, drama, financial ruin, and deteriorating health. Fortunately, several close friends of mine have also known longtime sobriety, and like me, they continue to live happier, healthier lives. I used AA but no longer attend as I am now an atheist who feels uneasy in the higher power based environment of the organization. I consider myself an lifetime member nonetheless and did every service requested of me there, and then some. I volunteered to visit and speak at the meetings in hospitals and institutions for eight years. Nothing is more satisfactory than freely exiting such places and returning to the life I now have, spared of the pain and fear of not knowing how to accept life on life's terms and how to look for and relish the rare and beautiful moments we might miss if we are too stoned, or drunk, or selfish, or upset to notice.

I have gone through some difficult times in sobriety. I have helped support my wife as she battled and recovered from cancer, have lost family members to illnesses, and have had surgeries and illnesses to recover from as well. Some of my other family members struggle with addiction and alcoholism as well. I think around year four or five were the hardest though. I just could not seem to control the people and situations around me and no matter how I tried, the play would rarely go off as I directed...
I think that time was the darkest, when I had to begin living from moment to moment and learn to lower my expectations of all the results.

Everyone deserves the opportunity to see the world as clearly as time, health, knowledge, and experience will allow. We all have different circumstances, but we who seek to be free from the bonds of addiction can be united by our similarities...

Decide that you want and deserve to live, what kind of life you want to lead, put your pride, anger, and all the rest on a shelf, and use every means at your disposal to get yourself there.

As to the question: is sobriety an appropriate topic for discussion in a rock climbing forum? The answer is to ask the question; does it pertain to you or to someone you love? If so, it is pertinent.

-Tim Sorenson

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 27, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
Watching my brother -in-law unable to be treated for liver cancer because the cirrohsis from alcohol and the hep c from drug use have left him with very little liver that functions. Holding my sister's hands as she loses her husband. Watching my niece lose her daddy - who will not be there to walk her down the aisle. Watching my nephew patiently taking Dad to the flea market and taking care of him (awesome little guy) instead of doing all those things 19 year old boys are supposed to do.

SObriety is a fight that is worth it to your family. I look at this thread each time it pops up to see the support and see the struggle. I am rooting for all of you.

Social climber
Golden, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
AH, I almost forgot, today makes 4 years sober!!!

I wouldn't have thought about it if this thread didn't pop-up!

Trad climber
Sierra Vista
May 27, 2014 - 05:13pm PT
Well done Hank!


May 27, 2014 - 05:19pm PT
Nice job Jebus but I do not recall gving you any crap about being sober. Perhaps I gave you crap about it before you announced you were sober as you were the one one who bragged about beerlays and drinking at the crag.

Anyway good job staying sober and perhaps one day we will cross paths and I'll buy you a ginger ale. I don't drink either but perhaps one or two beers a month and that would be generous if I drank that many in a month.

Good luck to you all it's a blessing to be sober.

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 27, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
life goes on when you quit drinking, only now you do not have booze to get you through hard times, so sobriety can be worse than drinking until you remove the reasons why you drink and then learn how to deal with life without booze,

went to the Capitol City Jamboree las weekend, had a great time,

one guy got drunk and cut the top off of his parents new Buick because he wanted to cruise around high school a convertible, they found him in the front seat the next morning, buck nekid, never did find his clothes, same guy got pulled over for a DUI and slammed the cop down on the hood of his patrol car and took his gun away from him, gave the gun back, cop turned him loose as he did not want everybody down at the station to give him a hard time about it for the rest of his life, sheesh!

here is a good one from Chuck C>

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 27, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
Congrats Hankster!

Social climber
Golden, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
Funny, just went back to my 1st post on this topic. I got sober 3 months and 1 week after I started this thread. 3 months before your sober date is f*#king grim times...

Released to general population, Idaho
May 27, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
Keep coming back.

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
May 27, 2014 - 06:50pm PT
time and reality have a vague relationship.

i had to hire
for when reality gets too comfortable
i reach for the whip
and duly upset that status-quo;

my investment into this
psychological disaster
is my marriage
and my fame
and most of my damn fortune.

and if i can do it again,
i will only change the length
of my fingernails so i can
swipe the pleasure stains
from strange women's underwear,
thus relocating my biological
trail from her's to beneath
my fingernail
and when the cops take my
prints they will see that
i've personally ruined three
marriages as
an accessory to infidelity.
a stamp of

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 27, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
It took me roughly 4 months to finalize the sobriety process. I started trying in may of 06. Had a few slips along the way but my last 2 1/2 beers was 8-25-06 that was a milestone for me because I had been clean for about six weeks. had two beers after climbing with old drinking buddy. ordered a 3rd beer. took a few sips and decided I did not want it. Stopping like that in the middle of a Guiness with two pints in me did more for my head confidence than if I had quit on a hangover.. It was like I proved to myself that I could quit and that I really wanted to quit.

Anyone can quit when you feel like sh#t. quitting when I was just starting to feel good really proved something to myself and filled me with confidence in the years to come....

Social climber
Golden, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
I just wanted my Wife to walk back through that door one last time. To believe me one last time. To give me one last chance. My Sponsor got hold of her number and made a hail mary call, he said I'd been sober and at meetings, but still not sober...

She walked back through that door one last time and I f*#king did it, I earned every square inch of her trust back with every passing day, week and year. Hardest thing I've ever done, but what a payoff!


Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 27, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Cool! so happy it worked for you.
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
May 27, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
Nice job Jebus but I do not recall gving you any crap about being sober. Perhaps I gave you crap about it before you announced you were sober as you were the one one who bragged about beerlays and drinking at the crag.

Maybe I confused you with another. I swear I saw a salty exchange between us in some thread, but maybe it's a sound alike acronym user, LOL! Either way, sorry, it's unimportant, and I edited you out of my known communists list. I don't want to dwell on it, and I was more venting from the evil crap a few have thrown my way for trying to fix up this old house. I guess that's what I get for my hobby of being an internet as#@&%e, hahaha.

It's really inspiring to see the accounts of sobriety rekindled here. This is what makes this thread one of the most overall positive experiences for me on this forum.

As if I needed any reminder to keep up the good work, a new patient of mine last night required mucho man handling and some aggressively administered ativan while making a complete ass out of himself. Boy, it's really nice to tie up the attention of a lot of hospital staff who could otherwise be helping the quiet grandma in the other room. What a selfish disease we have. Hard drugs, alcohol... Ugly, ugly, ugly.

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Jun 20, 2014 - 02:12pm PT first aa meeting tonight.

who knows?
not me.
i've never lost control.

New York, NY
Jun 20, 2014 - 02:19pm PT
Congrats Hank, huge f*#king deal. I can relate with grim times months before getting sober. Very dark and very sick.

9 years for me last week...

thanks for this thread!!!


Trad climber
Jun 20, 2014 - 03:04pm PT
Good luck, Norwegian. I hope you get a good meeting!

Congratulations on the anniversaries to those who posted recently. I missed seeing this thread when they were posted, looks like.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jun 20, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
Yeah, good luck Norwegian, you can send this!

And congrats Hank! But you knew I felt that way already.
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