Sobriety (off topic or not)?


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Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Aug 19, 2014 - 11:01pm PT
I'm always impressed at the civility of this thread, despite the differing opinions.

I'm curious about the social queues that indicate one might be over the top. What's your experience or in watching others, what have you seen?

I'm thinking here primarily of those queues from another to someone that's basically acting out and already next to rock bottom. One incident? Several? Heinous incident?

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 19, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
hitting a bottom does not mean you will be good at AA,

it is more about deciding that you want to change your life,

people can hit bottom during sobriety also,

Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
Aug 20, 2014 - 02:53am PT
I'm sorry to hear about your bro-in-law's death, Seamstress, I'm sorry for his loved ones. It sounds like he pulled his life out of a nose dive and left a good example for his kids to follow, and that is very honorable.

Aug 20, 2014 - 09:16am PT
Some common cues that you may want to think about quitting the sauce:

Legal sanctions (DUI, etc)
Degradation of personal relationships
Physical or verbal violence
Advice from friends
Low self esteem
A feeling of impending disaster
Guilt about driving drunk
Planning your schedule around drinking
Inability to dream of or plan for the future
Lack of cash
Defensiveness about your drinking or behavior
Obesity/poor health/poor diet (grease to soak up the booze or hangover)
Loss of time, productivity, motivation, and energy
Lost productivity and energy during the day due to hangovers
Quitting things you used to be passionate about
Drinking "friends" you don't actually like being with
Telling yourself "This shiite is getting old"

Have a pal video tape you while drunk and watch it.

Very effective.

It's much, much easier to just quit than to try to 'control it'.

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 21, 2014 - 12:56am PT
what about going to the liquor store in your pajamas?


Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 21, 2014 - 06:19am PT
At what time of day?

Trad climber
Aug 27, 2014 - 11:19am PT
Yesterday was 18 years sober - made it!

Two of my sisters "just happened to show up" to my place on Monday. They live in Wisconsin and Michigan and were on the return travel from being Camp To Belong(reunites foster kids with their siblings for a week) counselors for a week up in Maine.

They stayed an extra day and we did a long hike out to the Mohonk Mountain House. out for 8 hours. I didn't think about a drink even once. It was a nice surprise and a good way to spend the anniversary day!

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 27, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
Happy - that's my kind of celebration - a lovely, long hike. Excellent.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 28, 2014 - 03:02am PT
Congrats Happy! i know yours is right arround mine every year. I went climbing on my 8th and totally forgot about it untill two days later.. i guess thats a really good sighn!
Linda Jarit

Aug 28, 2014 - 08:51am PT
14 years today. Its been filled with ups and downs. So grateful to be present through all of it.

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Aug 29, 2014 - 10:41am PT
i've been courting wellness:
batting my long lashes,
putting on clean digs.
trimming my nails.
even pleases and thank yooz.

she's got no eye for me.
a tough catch, she.
she holds pretty high standards,
and i just don't know
if i got it in me.

i mean, some chicks just are not cut out
for my disaster.

my mold is toxic.

so i'll turn my pursuits away
from her and just stumble on down
to the local corner market,
crack a camo and hit
up the idle ladies with short skirts
and long jackets.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 29, 2014 - 10:44am PT
You can be a really depressing guy to encounter here,on the Taco, Norwegian...

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Aug 29, 2014 - 10:52am PT
what you saying jaybro?
chilly winds don't blow thru here?

is this place reserved for just
pink clouds and blue skies?

perfectly tanned fit folks
with not a lick of sunburn?

oh i didn't get the memo.
please forward me something better to write.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 29, 2014 - 11:29am PT
No Weeg, only you can decide to make it better. Far be it from me to put words in the artist's mouf!

There's a difference between the blues and whining, and you've nailed it at times, so I know you know that edge. That last one just left me a little sour, as have had several over the years, and I thought I'd finally mention it. It has nothing to do with this thread or it's subject. You can do whatever you want.

Namaste 'nshit

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 29, 2014 - 01:59pm PT
And hats off to you Linda!
How did I miss that? I thought of you the other day, but didn't think It was my place to say anything to the world at large.

Linda by her example, was the one of the key straws, weighing in my own decision to stop drinking. Thanks again Linda! Now come out and climb with me in Moab!

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Aug 29, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Good on you, Linda. Straight edged is the shizzle, nothwitstanding the occassional speed wobbles. That's life on life's terms.

One thing I try and never forget - "...The insanity of that first drink."

I can't go back there - but I know the door is always open.


Boulder climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
i've been courting wellness ...
You can be a really depressing guy to encounter here, Norwegian.
Sobriety Thread (off limits or what)?
IE drunks not welcome. Rokjox used to post here too, and they got erased.
I may like to post, but can see it more tight-ass than a hamas mosque on 24 hour lockdown.
Only platitudes and Kumbaya singing allowed.

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Aug 29, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
We support each other because we know all too well the pain of addiction.

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Aug 29, 2014 - 10:21pm PT
Haters gonna hate.

Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
Aug 29, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
'That's when I Listened, August 17th, 1989'

Am twenty five years clean and sober this month,
No fanfare,
Know I'm a drunk who's just not drinking,
Now my hearing is going and so is my thinking,

That Largo he tol' me to clean up my act,
In the Lodge parking lot '81 matter fact,
Why the fvck do I still remember that?
I never quite knew where my drinking was at,

In Eighty Nine I finally did,
My wife was out the door that day,
Left my spirit in the ocean somewhere,
Lost my soul on the open highway,

Hit an AA mtg a few years back,
I knew so few would keep coming back,
This atheist could only say his god was a rock,
It no longer fit,

It's different today,
Playing chess and monopoly with my youngest grandson,
He never knew I was a stoned hippie drunk,
Back in the seventies when I thought it was fun,

He whips my ass in sports at age nine,
Which is cool,
And fine,
So so fine.

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