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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
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"High-powered"
Ask the cops in the Hollywood shootout about that. If we want a highly armed society, and many here do, then we have to expect a highly armed police force, no?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
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Firenze graffiti...
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 03:31pm PT
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wow a lot of back n forth hate here....... with out any info..
ending the War on Drugs would be a good start.... take the $$$$$$ out of it and those bangers will loose a big part of their EZ income.
But to PoPos are getting very agressive..... shoot last year I was sitting in my campsite at JT and Ranger dudeette walks -- sneeks in-- looking around, hand on the side arm, holster un buttoned.
I asked her about the gun and why did she have it unbuttoned?????
I asked he if there had EVER been a shooting of a LEO in JT?
She didn't have an answer....
anyway all the cops now treat everybody like sh#t.
it will backfire on them.
And Rick, one day you will get pulled over- speeding on that bike of yours-and when some LEO treats you like garbage, you come on back here and do a TR ok.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2014 - 03:57pm PT
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My law and order philosophy is probably a bit to the right of Genghis Khan's but even if
I am doing nothing wrong I still get very uncomfortable when there's a cop at my
six o'clock - I just don't trust 'em. Granted, it is a horrible job but
they've lost sight of the fact that they work for us, theoretically. The
lack of civilian oversight is the main problem. And what is it with the
effing helicopters? Every pissant little town thinks they can't live without
one and LA thinks they need 17 and a King Air 200 turboprop?
Are you kidding me? Three weeks in Italy and I might have seen a couple in
Rome but that is about it. Clearly those Eyetalians don't know the danger
they're in!
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 05:03pm PT
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wow a lot of back n forth hate here....... with out any info..
No hate here, guyman. I think we all agree here that the militarization of the police is NOT a good thing. It's a danger to our republic. I do believe that ONE of the causes is the police reaction to the high level of guns in our society. It would certainly make me nervous if I was a cop. Hell, I'd probably be drawing down on cans of poppin' fresh dough!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 05:03pm PT
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Good enough GUY!
Oh yeah, that wasn't the first, second nor third time that has happened the past ten or so years.
Justice denied.....!
I found out a long time ago, its who you know, in small town America, and not if your guilty or innocent.
So chief.... lets revisit the whole power bolting in the wilderness deal- again... I'll say its just like going 100+ MPH,thats against the law! So you would agree that we pick and choose what laws we are going to follow.
Dosen't mean your a bad person, just a free person. ;>)
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
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Rick I have a job and can't always get right back....
but yes I hear you, small town life. In LA you might have been tossed under the jail for doing that.
No hate here, guyman. I think we all agree here that the militarization of the police is NOT a good thing. It's a danger to our republic. I do believe that ONE of the causes is the police reaction to the high level of guns in our society. It would certainly make me nervous if I was a cop. Hell, I'd probably be drawing down on cans of poppin' fresh dough!
Well Gary maybe hate is to strong of a word, but a lot of mud slinging over something most of us can agree on.
I think anyone who can prove that they are not crazy or a ex-felon, gets a gun if they wish... it would make the streets safer. IMHO
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Byran
climber
San Jose, CA
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Nov 13, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
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Oh yeah. Pretty certain that these dudes are active card carrying NRA members, their weapons are registered and totally legal...
Don't know about their NRA membership status, but since it's a professional photo shoot I would assume everything is on the up-and-up regarding the prop firearms.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
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Guyman, last month I was grabbing coffee at a Starbucks at one of those east coast travel plazas they have on the toll roads (don't get me started on toll roads!), and this guy strides in with am smug look and a piece strapped on his hip. It didn't make me feel safe.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Nov 13, 2014 - 06:38pm PT
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LEOS have a tough job. But I agree that I no longer respect them. They are too quick to see the populace as adversaries. Back when my dad was 84 years old they pulled him over for minor speeding and proceeded to hassle him. An 84 year old man that has never had an infraction. But they had to put him in his place.
edit: When I got my DUI the arresting officer (CHP) was pretty decent and just doing his job and treated me with a reasonable degree of respect. When I got booked in jail it was a whole different story. Those fers where way over the top. I'll never forget being slammed on the floor by 4 cops just for raising my hand to ask for access to asthma meds.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Nov 13, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
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What are the numbers! How many cops killed or winded on duty?
Wounded mrApplepotatohead
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Nov 13, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
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Thank you Johntp - my sentiments exactly.
My neighbor - lived next to him for going on four years now.
Dude did 4 tours in the Sand Boxes of Iraq and Afghanistan and came home WHACKED THE F*** OUT!
Six months ago he rolls out and gets hired into our local PD based on his "military policing" experience. Easy to think that's cool - veterans deserve our respect for falling for the jive and risking their lives for BS and all that jazz. Least we could do is let them become employed once back like a normal Joe.
Only thing is - he's still WHACKED! and he has AUTHORITY and a GUN!
Can't count how many times Terrence has gone on a rant about how "all of us are guilty of something - just haven't been caught yet". The man seriously and I do mean seriously believes that his citizen neighbors are one step away from lighting off some IED under his azz.
His attitude and the fact that this type of person is the typical recruit for our local PD scares the crap out of me.
I fear cops these days.
I distrust them.
I do not respect them.
And that actually does make me sad because it does not and should not be this way.
Old dick-pulling Wally Warheads who cream out over "drug cartels", "armored bandits", "turbaned car bombers" and every other boogeyman they can conjure up while jerking off in their bunkers only encourages us to believe that we need a police force that rivals a Roman Legion.
As if every forgettable suburb in every no-name town is but mere seconds away from attack by some Global Army of Jihadi Zombie Child Rapists.
Unfortunately for my town, there are still enough old retired white people in town who vote this Fear Ticket to ensure our cops are sufficiently armed to repel the Mongol Hordes.
What we actually get is a well armed well armored PD who happens to currently have 2 officers charged with assault, 2 charged with domestic violence, 1 on trial for sexual assault and 1 recently convicted for manslaughter.
That's 6 Law Enforcement Officers in total just in the last 12 months.
Did I mention that the local PD only numbers 37?
That's on top of the over 300 citizen complaints filed over allegations of shake-downs and theft of property during "justifiable searches".
There is a sickness of conscience and morality that permeates too many Police Departments for me to feel safe in their presence anymore. Disdain for their fellow citizens, disregard for their own laws, irrational fear over imagined threats have turned these armed men and women into something apart from the very society they espouse to protect and serve.
Not every town needs a Panzer division of SS Troops. Most could get by just fine with an Andy Griffith of a Sheriff.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 14, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
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Chief.... if you love riding that fast, and it is a blast. I recommend that you go join the Willow Springs Motor Cycle Club.
That way you can ride as fast as you wish, and not endanger the innocent population. And on the plus side, they have a ambulance "on station" ready to come and collect your broken body ASAP.
But beware, those real racer dudes can REALLY RIDE. Not just street fast- but track fast. There is a big difference.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 14, 2014 - 04:28pm PT
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Gee wiz RICK....
Ride safe.
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thebravecowboy
climber
walking, resin-stained, towards the goal
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Dec 12, 2014 - 10:58pm PT
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Fort Collins police have not released additional information about the
incident west of campus. They continue search for the suspect.
At this time, police continue to ask that anyone west of campus stay
indoors, with their doors locked, and stay away from windows.
Updates will be provided as FCPS releases information. Please call 911
and CSUPD ONLY to share information. Please do not call 911 or CSUPD for
updates on the situation.
Power is information. Information is power.
And with that, I must add: [Click to View YouTube Video]
Chief, you know, I think you and Antoine might have more in common than you would recognize at first. Have you tried blackface in Kalamazoo to foster your own understanding?
12:10PM
And an update:
Fort Collins police were not able to locate the suspect and they are
removing the search perimeter. Anyone who sees a male matching the
description should contact Fort Collins police at 970-221-6540. The
suspect is a bald Hispanic male wearing a light shirt and jeans. He is
considered armed and dangerous.
Fort Collins police advise residents that it is safe to resume normal
activities at home, but to continue to practice safety precautions and
make sure doors and windows are locked.
Can I yet open my eyes? Or shall I flay all noises in the night with my neat little handcannon? Will I be tried if my stray round hits some dude next door?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 13, 2018 - 10:22am PT
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Just a bypass on the way to a police state?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bakersfield-shooting-20180913-story.html
Authorities are trying to piece together what led a gunman to kill five people in back-to-back shootings in Bakersfield on Wednesday evening before turning the gun on himself in a situation that Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood said has become “the new normal” across the country.
The violence began about 5:20 p.m., when the man showed up at a trucking business with his wife and confronted another man. The husband shot the man and then turned the gun on his wife, killing her, Youngblood said.
When a third man showed up, the gunman chased him to the nearby Bear Mountain Sports shop and fatally shot him. The gunman, who has not been identified, then went to a home nearby and shot and killed two more people.
Youngblood said the gunman then carjacked a woman who had a child in her vehicle. Both victims were able to escape as the gunman drove to Edison Highway, where he was spotted by a deputy.
The man pulled into a lot and when the deputy approached, the man shot himself in the chest.
“This is the new normal if you look across the country at these types of shootings,” Youngblood told reporters at a news conference on Wednesday. The violence marks the third deadliest shooting in the nation this year behind the Parkland attack in Florida, which left 17 people dead, and the Sante Fe High School shooting in Texas, which killed 10.
We need more guns on the street?
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ec
climber
ca
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Sep 13, 2018 - 10:52am PT
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Ron, I witnessed the police state when I saw you on your knees in Camp 4 in 1977 over a tiny bit of weed. The whole scene was ridiculous and frightening at the same time. I thought you responded to them appropriately, however they did not agree.
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ec
climber
ca
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Sep 13, 2018 - 10:57am PT
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Gary, I saw that. Gee, my home town. 55% of their homicides are unsolved. If you look at the list I see a ‘pattern.’ ‘Mostly ‘Hispanic’ and left on the side of the road...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 13, 2018 - 11:06am PT
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I rather doubt that Bakersfield PD gets to be very picky about who they hire.
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