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nutjob

Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 18, 2008 - 10:16am PT
I'm too lazy to research it. Only weird thing I've seen is some Tom Cruise interview where he said "if I see a car accident, I have to stop, because I know I'm the only one who can help" or something like that.
Mojomonkey

climber
Philadelphia, PA
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:20am PT
See http://xenu.net/, including the FAQ
Shrug

Trad climber
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:41am PT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrTrzsIxcXs
Anastasia

climber
Not there
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:46am PT
This famous article critical of Scientology has been awarded the Gerald Loeb Award for distinguished business and financial journalism, the Worth Bingham Prize and the Conscience in Media Awards from the American Society of Journalists and Authors.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html
Dingus Milktoast

climber
NorCal
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:49am PT
Read

"Battlefield Earth."

and then understand - those people think that's for real.

That's all you need bro.

Also, understand that cults are religious ponzi schemes designed to exploit the newer members for the benefit of the inner circle.

DMT
Anastasia

climber
Not there
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:53am PT
This is an article about a teenager being sued for calling Scientology a "cult."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/20/1?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
TwistedCrank

climber
Ideeho
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:53am PT
Read "Diuretics" by L.Ron Hubbard. It's the science of matter over mind.

Would you trust someone who wears am ascot?

Dingus Milktoast

climber
NorCal
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:56am PT
^^^^ Never and I mean NEVER trust a man wearing an ascot.

Never.

"Read "Diuretics" by L.Ron Hubbard. It's the science of matter over mind. "

Nah. Just PISS on it!

(that's GOLD JERRY, GOLD!)

DMT
Chaz

Trad climber
So. Cal.
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:57am PT
Can anyone who has a beef with Scientology tell us what's wrong with it, in your own words, without refering to an article someplace someone else wrote or a film on YouTube?

Or are you content to let others do your thinking for you?....Just like the Scientologists.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:06am PT
"(that's GOLD JERRY, GOLD!)"...



I JUST saw that one the other night...



LOL!!!...















EDIT:

years ago (I was 18) while in College in Boston, I wa INVITIED to a Scientology office to take a TEST...

I was HIGH as a kite and figured I might as well have some MORE fun...

So I went in and TOOK the test...

I DID NOT even really READ the damned thing and just pretty much lied like sh!t on it...

well...

Turned out that it made ABSOLUTLY NO DIFFERENCE what I wrote on the test...























EVERYONE PASSES!!!...



then they gave me the...


HARD SELL...


I would be NEEDING to PURCHASE the BOOKS they all of a sudden thrust upon me...


I declined and left with a DIFFERNT kind of BUZZ...



Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:08am PT
Just another group trying to tell us what and how to think. A very powerful group at that. Something like it's O.K. to be a rich, powerful prick, it doesn't matter how many little pricks you step on... When I research stuff like that , I look at money and motives, and membership.
Prod

Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:16am PT
Anyone know a Scientologist?

Prod.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:21am PT
Yes. I do. or did.
Anastasia

climber
Not there
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:27am PT
L. Ron Hubbard wrote in a letter to his wife Polly (October 1938)

-"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."-
Quoted in Bare-faced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard (1987), p. 81


-"'know, we're all wasting our time writing this hack science fiction! You wanta make real money, you gotta start a religion!"-

As reported to Mike Jittlov by Theodore Sturgeon as a statement Hubbard made while at the Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society clubhouse in the 1940s.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:35am PT
I always loved that quote and it makes good ammo for debate. When I look at these public Scientologists I just see more not to like, than I care to stomach. They are way too far into mass media manipulation.
Shrug

Trad climber
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:36am PT
I'm not at all a religious person, but I find a "religion" founded by a Science Fiction writer that uses a contraption(lack of a better word)to determine one's happiness a bit... um... "F*#ked up". What's next a religion based on Star Trek...

Oh.. wait...





Dingus Milktoast

climber
NorCal
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:36am PT
chaz I already did. You're welcome.

DMT
GDavis

Trad climber
SoCal
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:37am PT
For dingus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AopWqv-eQFM
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:38am PT
"They are way too far into mass media manipulation."...


that's because they are fuking SCAM ARTISTS...



and the word "MANIPULATION" fits PERFECTLY!!!...



like I wrote...

NO ONE FAILED...

"THE TEST"...

it's ALL about the $$$MONEY$$$...



Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:57am PT
all them cults are kinda scary in a way...

kinda like what I saw working for
big "P" in Ventura back in the 80's....

the cult leader would get up in front
of everyone and galvanize the audience
by demonizing sport climbing...everyone
applauds; too weird.
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