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billygoat

climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
Mar 29, 2008 - 05:57pm PT
Scott,

Take a deep breath and reread the article. I'm pretty sure that's not what happened. But, just to be sure, Doug's on here from time to time and I'm sure he'll post up. If I see him, I'll ask...
WBraun

climber
Mar 29, 2008 - 06:55pm PT
1000 bolts with coz's name on them.

Some glue-on holds for ambivalence.

A shock kit at the base with mental relaxant drugs for those who will freak when they see.

Something for the heart too, a defibrillator, to revive the weak hearted.

Hahahaha Coz .......
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 29, 2008 - 06:58pm PT
And the NPS didn't notice a thing while it was all happening...

Edit: I'm not in any way criticizing the climb or climbers. From the account in the magazine, it sounds like they're very capable, and did a fine job. I somehow suspect that DR wouldn't hold still for any nonsense, too.

But I may have been teasing Coz. Werner started it.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:09pm PT
Fer Cripe's Sake Coz! -how could you let a thing like that happen?
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:22pm PT
RE:
"A shock kit at the base with mental relaxant drugs for those who will freak when they see. "

LOL!
wildone

climber
Where you want to be
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:25pm PT
Does the NPS have regs against hand bolting on rap? I sure wasn't aware of it, if they do.
This is what I can say as far as my involvement with this project is concerned. We did the first half of the route trad style, ground up, and installed 10mm stainless two-bolt anchors for every pitch at stances. That Half Dome granite is the hardest granite I've ever seen, with numerous 30 minute holes and broken bits.
I don't know if you've been up there Anders, but that upper face can be pretty deceiving. Ask Hank. Sean and Doug made some hard decisions in the interest of the quality of the route, which, in my opinion is a lot more important 100 years from now than how big your balls are. What they will remember is that it is not a shwag route.
This is only MY opinion, I don't speak for anyone but myself, but I feel like when you're getting into 5.13 slab territory, only having a bolt every 60-70 feet, 'cause that's where the micro potato-chip "jug" you stood on to drill a shitty sketched-out bolt from, doesn't cut it.
We decided to preview the top half in a 900 foot single line rappel, and I'm glad we did, because only in having done that, did we see that the line we WERE going to take, some enticing vertical rib/dikes from the end of the arch, ran out into complete blankness after 500 feet. I'm glad we didn't put in the time, and scar the rock in the process for a "mistake" route. As it is, on that preview, we found a counter-intuitive line that is of absolute quality, and you won't break your back or smash your body if you fall. Regrettably, I had to return to my work with the Park Service in Tuolumne, or I would have helped Sean and Doug bolt that upper wall.
Go climb it. It's awaiting a second ascent. Report back here.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:25pm PT
The second "gold rush" is on!
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:38pm PT
Wow.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:45pm PT
ding ding!

wildone

climber
Where you want to be
Mar 29, 2008 - 07:54pm PT
Didn't mean to bum you out bro, just thought you needed some answers. I can e mail you Sean's phone number, if you want to talk about it the old-school way, instead of on the internet.
As for the spray article, Doug's a writer. He writes.
That's a slippery slope there, talking about a second cable route.
Maysho

climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 29, 2008 - 08:04pm PT
Oh well, its a big rock, a few more bolts ain't gonna tip it over.

Inquiring minds want to know the more vital underlying subtexts.

What was their carbon footprint?
Did they contribute to the erosive effects of industrial tourism, or support the local product economy?
Is Sean still with Maggie?
Does ol' Doug get with the groupies on the slide show tour?

These are the vital questions.

Peter
marky

climber
Mar 29, 2008 - 08:04pm PT
he probably meant via ferrata
WBraun

climber
Mar 29, 2008 - 08:06pm PT
OMFG ..... I think Walt's coming out of the ground.

The fuking end is here for sure, eeeeeaaahhhhhh eeerrrggghhh!

Huh?
wildone

climber
Where you want to be
Mar 29, 2008 - 08:06pm PT
Peter, Ben Montoya here. Sean and Maggie are still bomber, as always. How have you been? I haven't seen you in a while.
jiimmy

Boulder climber
san diego
Mar 29, 2008 - 09:14pm PT
Out with the old, in with the new. Tomes change. Dont dwell in the past.
Ok, thats what some people would say.
NOT ME!! HOly crapbags!!!Why would anyone defile a rock like Half Dome? Too many self righteous types in the climbing community now.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 29, 2008 - 09:20pm PT
Wow!
Brilliant!

Two cable routes!
You could make one the "up" and the other the "down"...
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Mar 29, 2008 - 09:22pm PT
just grid bolt the entire thing and be done with it. It's the direction of climbing so why fight it? In fact, for the routes that don't go I suggest bolting on holds. Just be sure to keep the red route under 5.10+ so I can send.

I'm gonna have to read the article I suppose. I'm curious.
426

Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Mar 29, 2008 - 09:40pm PT
talk about politico....ssssss
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
Mar 29, 2008 - 09:43pm PT
Something smells here...

Why is this any different from the WOS debacle? Who's gonna take the dump this time?
klaus

Big Wall climber
San F*#kincisco
Mar 29, 2008 - 09:51pm PT
Having done a few FA's back there I'd have to agree with Coz. What a shame to beat the rock into submission in such poor style, taking all the adventure out of the game. It doesn't even seem like fun. I'm not surprised though. Climbers in general lack respect these days. Like Skinner bolting Jesus Built My Hotrod. Very lame.
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