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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 1, 2016 - 08:00am PT
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Most of us have heard about localism in surfing. I was wondering is anyone has ever experienced localism in climbing? I was reading in Surfline about the 'Lunada Bay Boys' getting sued over the whole localism deal and it occurred to me that I never ran into localism at the crags. As a matter of fact, I've never run into any overt localism in the surf, either. And I've surfed many places that are known to be localized.
I heard about an incident once at an AZ climbing area, third hand; so who knows how accurate that is... Maybe Steelmonkey was beating up someone :)
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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I have only experienced it at the OWs at Planet Granite Sunnyvale. I hope they all get staph infections.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Surfing is a source swear to god it saved my life!
Back off Warchild..
Climbers and localism equates to some drum circle..
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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There have been times when I wished there was a bit of localism in climbing.
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WBraun
climber
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In the 80's Yosemite had heavy climbing localism .......
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Werner is a local, so is Todd Gordon....most other "locals" are people who move to an area and assume "local status" before they need their next haircut. It's the latter who cop the locals attitude.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I been a Wolf City local since 1965, no mater where I lived.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I believe there is a difference between localism and reinforcing ethics.
All too often people who cry about localism are really just butt hurt about being informed of the local ethic. Which need not be aggro.
Reinforcing the ethics of a location- which may be as simple and straightforward as pick up your sh#t when you leave - is not localism but often is left to the locals to police.
If we were to equate localism with surfing then you would see locals walking up and starting a route you are standing at the base of ready to climb.
I doubt that happens very often climbing and perhaps I'm unique but I can assure you it never happened to me either climbing or in the water. And short of Lunada Bay, I surfed some of the most localized water in SoCal.
Correction: I guess it did happen a couple of times surfing but was worked out onsite. Maybe that's the way to handle it climbing. Dunno.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Currently LOCALISM is heavy at MALIBU..
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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I surfed some of the most localized water in SoCal.
Really?
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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I doubt that happens very often climbing and perhaps I'm unique but I can assure you it never happened to me either climbing or in the water.
Cuz you're badass...apparently...you definitely have no lack of opinion
Edit;
that is right it is my opinion that you love to give everyone your opinion and it is usually topped by a heavy helping of how badass you are
Edit ll; to avoid bumping this Dopey thread
I stopped being concerned about how big someone is long ago when I learned the truth
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Golf locals are the ABSOLUTE WORST!!!!
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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I agree with some of what enscopeta wrote.
but
If we were to equate localism with surfing then you would see locals walking up and starting a route you are standing at the base of ready to climb.
Those would be the nice locals.
sick avatar pic btw.
no wonder you're involved in so many circle jerks here lol!
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Really?
Yep. Really.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Cuz you're badass...apparently...you definitely have no lack of opinion
You of all people need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of the word - OPINION.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Escopeda- I'd be curious to get some insight on what you're doing that set's you apart.
What type of board do you ride? What's your skill level? If you were a tree...
Just kidding, but I do need some imagery so I can call you out proper.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Pyro- It is!
I was out on a big day at the top of the point while my wife wife was surfing a contest there. I was suprised at how bad the hassling was. Especially since it was done mostly by beaver-tail wearing kooks riding fish's.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Contractor, I'm not sure what you are asking for. But I'm not sure what difference it makes. If you want to say I'm full of sh#t, knock yourself out, it matters not at all to me.
But this incessant attempt to equate surfing to climbing, including trying to apply some kind of 'locals only' inspiration to climbing seems like another stretch.
Granted, I wasn't around in the valley in the peak timeframe that Tami and Werner talk about but how many people caught actual beat downs for climbing in a certain place? I mean a real proper square-up beat down? Many? Any?
Is it happening somewhere in a climbing location today? I bet not.
If the delicate sensitivities of some people on here are an indication of current climber interaction, then this concept of brazen localism is likely nothing more than locals not wanting to be friend-ed on FaceBook after meeting out at the crag. Oh the horror.
Climbing is climbing, surfing is surfing. How about we stop trying to appropriate things from one and assigning them to the other?
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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^^^^^currently googling "most localized spots in SoCal"
Edit: not you rincon ;-)
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