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Steve Rathbun
climber
Outer Lurkistan
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 20, 2015 - 11:04pm PT
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curious...
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Flip Flop
climber
salad bowl, california
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Mar 20, 2015 - 11:18pm PT
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Um? The impending apocalypse of exploding population running smack into the ecological limits. Hard to dissect when the options are frack water or dying of thirst.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Ouray, CO.
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Mar 21, 2015 - 06:10am PT
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There is only one environmental problem.
An aggressively invasive non-indigenous species has displaced many indigenous species to the detriment of the ecosystem as a whole. When it has run it's course, it will toxify the environment past the point of it's ability to adapt to it. Only when it is fully dead, can the biosphere truly start to rebuild.
Sorry if some pedophile, or incense waver told you differently.
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Floorabove
climber
The Gunks y'all
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Mar 21, 2015 - 07:34am PT
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ECF sums it up nicely.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Mar 21, 2015 - 08:42am PT
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Bolts.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 21, 2015 - 08:45am PT
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The average person burns a lot of fossil fuel in pursuit of climbing.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 21, 2015 - 08:49am PT
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ECF for the win. I have not contributed to furthering the problem.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 21, 2015 - 09:08am PT
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Water.
Water.
Water.
WAAAATTTTTTEEEEERRRRRR.
"An aggressively invasive non-indigenous species has displaced many indigenous species to the detriment of the ecosystem as a whole."
You talkin' to me?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Mar 21, 2015 - 10:07am PT
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There’s a lot of noise pollution at the crags these daze…
“C’mon man, go for it! You’ve got it!”
“No! Left hand up first! Get the finger lock then step up the right foot. Do the spinorama, clip and yer done.”
“Hey.. Keep the rope tight, I don’t want to have to do that part again.”
“This is so rad! I can’t believe I did that!”
“Damn, I did this before no problem. These shoes suck!”
“No worries man, I’ve got you!”
“Falling!”
“Oh man, if you can hear me squeeze my finger!”
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Mar 21, 2015 - 11:00am PT
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idiot politicians bought off by venal Capitalists. All of whom should Bloody Well Know Better.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 21, 2015 - 11:10am PT
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Rampant chalk use, and spewing.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 21, 2015 - 11:32am PT
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Rampant chalk use, and spewing.
Yeah, and growing up climbing-by-the-dots only to be gobsmacked by the utter unworldliness of it all their first time on a line with no chalk (or tape) - I mean, how exactly the f*#k do people even do it?
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 21, 2015 - 11:48am PT
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The fact that big chem & super pharma, are guilty of gutting federal EPA standards and given time we will be bathing in Schit.
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c wilmot
climber
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Mar 21, 2015 - 11:51am PT
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Any synthetic gear is made out of oil. Ropes/harnesses for example
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 21, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
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As stated above - human population is the pretty much the only environmental problem that really matters over the long haul.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 21, 2015 - 12:02pm PT
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Re: Overpopulation.
I have been on this bandwagon for 50 years, and I think it underlies most environmental problems.
That said, I think most people do not appreciate what has happened, which is a DRAMATIC drop in fertility rates worldwide, where the average number of children/woman has dropped from about 6 to less than 3.
This translates into a plateau of the number of children at about the current number of 2 billion. The projected number in 50 years......is 2 billion.
Here is a great 10 minute TED talk on why this is, and the documentation:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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The Call Of K2 Lou
Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
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Mar 21, 2015 - 12:17pm PT
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Chalk up another vote for the planet being overpopulated.
Please remember to spay or neuter your humans.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 21, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
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Anti human ist s
The facts do tend to prove we are an invasive detriment to the balance of things.
Where can we make the most beneficial changes? China limit, no more births in unsustainable regions? Who would be the arbitrator ?
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Mar 21, 2015 - 12:33pm PT
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Toilet paper.
Growing up in North Idaho I saw great forests mowed down just to wipe our asses.
We need to figure out a better way.
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