Climbers: Number One Environmental Concern?

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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 21, 2015 - 12:45pm PT
"High infant mortality= High population growth"
SweetWilliam

Boulder climber
TheSand,Man
Mar 21, 2015 - 01:34pm PT
For climbing prolly the climate change. Ice and moutain stuff will be pretty dangerous and maybe not even form alot of the years.

For rock stuff, the seasons will be different, and some of the desert stuff may not see hard routes done because the temp is never low enough. Then everyboy tries to go where conditions are good, and trample all over the alpine and destroy it.

As a person though concerned about a point of no return on the warming. But maybe there is a mass die off before from disease ro crop failing or war over what is left of the food or water.

"Toilet paper.

We need to figure out a better way. "

Well, you got a beard, come on over here and I use it.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 21, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
#1. Rampant human f*#king leading to widespread human f*#king-up.

The immediate problem seems to lie in nature's stinginess here lately.
http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article15386540.html

Thanks, Fritz. We owe you one. :0)

Flip Flop

climber
salad bowl, california
Mar 21, 2015 - 04:17pm PT
Shitting in the Drinking Water won't last.
two-shoes

Trad climber
Auberry, CA
Mar 21, 2015 - 04:44pm PT
Catastrophic climate change, and the inability to do much about it, largely because of the power
that corporate interests wield over the vast majority.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 21, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
Stupidity and ballessness.

In the end we all die.. So sorta I don't worry much about it.. Only sad thing is we don't all die together so.. due to stupidity and ballessness lots more will have to cry about it than are at all necessary.

The planet itself? the environment itself?.. will carry on.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Apr 22, 2015 - 10:01am PT
Cow farts.
brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
Apr 22, 2015 - 10:03am PT
Apparently Williamson Rock is at the top of the list.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 22, 2015 - 10:06am PT
Spider....a better way is to wipe with your left and eat with your right.
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Apr 22, 2015 - 10:16am PT
Donini: I think the "problem" would be solved quicker if everyone wiped with their right, and ate with their right!

































Jones in LA

Mountain climber
Tarzana, California
Apr 22, 2015 - 10:38am PT
Climbers as a group tend to lean toward the Tree Hugger end of the enviro-awareness spectrum, until someone tries to take away something we want to climb on. Then it's war on frogs, war on falcons, and war on the biologists, bird enthusiasts, etc. involved with the taking away. Suddenly, these so-called "experts" become in our minds, stupid and malicious.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1986867/Williamson-rock-access-update

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/893893/Summit-Rock-Raptor-Closure

Heaven forbid some silly frogs or non-endangered falcons should get a win.


Rich Jones

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 22, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
The Frogs have beat the Fish! Oh my God!
The fishing is NOT good at Lower Merced Pass Lake! Lower Merced Pass Lake is Yellow-Legged Frog territory. We ran into USGS scientists who were at Upper Merced Pass Lake to study the frogs. Frog lovers - enjoy! Fish Lovers move on.

http://sierrafish.com/lakes/lower-merced-pass-lake-mc/lower-merced-pass-lake-mc.php

And Licky is lost in Shanghai! Oh my God!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 22, 2015 - 12:20pm PT
"Toilet paper.

Growing up in North Idaho I saw great forests mowed down just to wipe our asses."


Well, the wankers are trying to recycle it...they wipe their arses, then leave it scattered around the wilderness...
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 22, 2015 - 12:38pm PT
I'm relieved. When I read this thread title I thought the OP was saying that climbers are the Number One Environmental Concern, rather than asking what we saw as the biggest concern.

After reading the 39 preceding posts, I think Jean Paul Sartre got it right in Huit Clos:

L'enfer c'est les autres.

John
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 22, 2015 - 12:58pm PT
merde


Yes, we have met the enemy and he is us.

That said, it still bugs me when otherwise ethical friends eat non-sustainable sushi only to use the excuse that because they don't have kids they are not part of the problem.
son of stan

Boulder climber
San Jose CA
Apr 22, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
They aren't making new mountains anymore. At least not fast enough.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
Tree roots:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1618401&msg=2612568#msg2612568


I know it's complicated but I still think: population. I never bred, by the way.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:22pm PT
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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 24, 2015 - 07:26pm PT
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rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Apr 24, 2015 - 07:51pm PT
My main environmental concern is for us parents' children. The hypocrisy of parents' children complaining about other parents' children - that's just part of who we human parents' children are. The rest of the environment is number two on my list.
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