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Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 19, 2014 - 06:49pm PT
for evidence see climate change skeptics thread.


Climate Change skeptics? [ot]

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/970221/Climate-Change-skeptics-ot
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 19, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
I dunno if he is optimistic. I think he just likes the practice of explaining things.

The few times I actually decided to bear the torture of seeing so much crap on that thread I found myself learning from a few very smart folks. Like Ed.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 19, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
dumb?

people posting to that thread are anything but "dumb", at least in the first 5 senses of the word...

and actually, if I thought people were "dumb" in the 6th and 7th sense why would I post to the thread at all?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dumb

1a :
lacking the human power of speech dumb animals
b of a person often offensive : lacking the ability to speak

2:
temporarily unable to speak (as from shock or astonishment) struck dumb with fear

3:
not expressed in uttered words dumb grief

4:
silent; also : taciturn

5:
lacking some usual attribute or accompaniment; especially : having no means of self-propulsion a dumb barge

6a :
lacking intelligence : stupid
b : showing a lack of intelligence asking dumb questions
c : requiring no intelligence dumb luck

7:
not having the capability to process data a dumb terminal — compare intelligent 3a
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 19, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
You misspelled Ed's last name dingleberry.
yosguns

climber
San Mateo, California
Dec 19, 2014 - 09:54pm PT
Sigh.
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Dec 19, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
OK, you got me at the 2nd half of #4 - I am dumb.
WBraun

climber
Dec 19, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
We are so fortunate to have a man of Ed's caliber available on a forum of this type.

Dingus you shouldn't put him on the spot with such verbiage as your thread title suggests.

He's a solid good man .......

klk

Trad climber
cali
Dec 19, 2014 - 10:50pm PT
hahaha

we were just having this conversation in a different venue
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Dec 19, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
There just is not a more solid and fascinating Supertopoan. How he was able to shoehorn in his large humanism what with everything else that is in there, I haven't a clue.

Roper once saw and did point out in his literature, Oppenheimer in Camp Four. I think it was a tryst of Oppie's, a sexy weekend camping jaunt; He was "jaunty" after all. There was a gal friend with him you see and one supposes he thought he was incognito up in our little dirt patch back then surrounded by firs and pines. I am seeing that great stiff brim hat of Oppie;s as well, don't you see that too?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Dec 20, 2014 - 04:35am PT
Agreed^^^^^.

I find it hard to not like the man.

Poised Deportment.Especially on that thread.

Good job Sumner.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Dec 20, 2014 - 04:51am PT
One of the most approachable geniuses I know

Happy Holidays ED
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2014 - 05:06am PT
Hartoni

you have never convinced the opponents on that thread of your arguments soundness. To them you have not made any progress. It looks like you are spinning your wheels even with good tires. Now with all that deportment bestowed on you, if your sound explanations don't ring with them what is the problem if it is not their dumbness?



In the end the Chief will be correct: Whether AGW happens or not in some 1.73 billion years the Earth will be too hot for life. Sci AM Jan 2015 planets
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Dec 20, 2014 - 05:39am PT
"In the end the chief will be correct"

Well,everyone needs a role model,Aye?

I do not post over there anymore,nor will I post here again,nice talking with you.Really.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Dec 20, 2014 - 05:54am PT
Hey Dingus
in the end
nothing really matters
what matters is that we are here now

Your call out trolling method is nothing more than you just being challenged by more intelligent people. understandable

Give it your best shot
thoughts turn into ideas
and some ideas are dumb
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Dec 20, 2014 - 06:05am PT
Ed reminds me of Mr. Miyagi - intelligent, kind, skilled, giving, and wise. He's always adding to the richness and fun of this place. Don't know how he finds the depth of patience to continue contributing to the Climate Change site; his patience seems infinite.
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2014 - 06:15am PT
Fish Finder,

I see you have used a
call out trolling method
on me. And I will apply your reasoning above with our situation to get a conclusion. Oh,
understandable
, how brilliant! I see you do not know the motive of my post.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Dec 20, 2014 - 06:31am PT
Hey say there Dingus

Happy Holidays
Just up early having some fun with my coffee

I would be a fool to know anyones motive but mine

I have seen Ed spin his wheels though

it was in the conversion van that was more high maintenance than
well anything

please tell us your motive
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2014 - 06:44am PT
Fish Finder,

motive: No Thanks. It is more interesting to see accusation fly when there is uncertainty.

It was Rudyard Kipling:


can you keep your head when all around are losing theirs


Happy Holidays to you.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Dec 20, 2014 - 07:38am PT
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

definition of troll

or

"motive: No Thanks. It is more interesting to see accusation fly when there is uncertainty."

the only thing uncertain is how many times you will edit your posts

Good luck with whatever it is you are trying to achieve

I have had the pleasure of hangin with Mr Hartouni on several occasions

hopefully one day we can also hang

best,gregg
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 20, 2014 - 07:55am PT
Be smart enough not to think that if someone doesn't have your opinion, you or other's are considered dumb. Ed's not dumb enough to not listen to other opinions, I wouldn't consider myself "smart", but I've had the pleasure of talking with Ed and enjoyed giving and listening to each other's views on whatever the subject.
Ed and others have their opinion, experience and education....so do you dingus, respect it and move on.
Peace
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