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rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 12, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
Anyone ever heard of a rock climbing guide service...Rock Climb Every Day?
Can't find them at the AMGA.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Oct 12, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
Never heard of them until your post.

Did a search and found http://rockclimbeveryday.com
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Oct 12, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
Prune juice works just fine for me.
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2014 - 02:53am PT
kunlun....Biotech...fortmental....thank you, very helpful. Have you seen all the S Cal locations they guide at? But has anyone ever heard of them? Has the AMGA heard of them?
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Oct 13, 2014 - 08:04am PT
It is interesting that they don't mention anybody's name and experience on the site.




at least they are friendly outdoor enthusiasts.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 13, 2014 - 09:01am PT
The website says they are in Ontario California, but the WHOIS data shows Ontario Canada, CANUCKS!!!!

Actually the website might be a ruse to sell gear

Domain Name: ROCKCLIMBEVERYDAY.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1835638504_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com
Registrar URL: http://tucowsdomains.com
Updated Date: 2014-09-17 13:01:35
Creation Date: 2013-11-15 21:50:22
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-15 21:50:22
Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 69
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123
Reseller: Hover
Reseller: help@hover.com
Reseller: 416.538.5498
Reseller: http://help.hover.com
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0136054514
Registrant Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0136054514
Registrant Street: 96 Mowat Ave
Registrant City: Toronto
Registrant State/Province: ON
Registrant Postal Code: M6K 3M1
Registrant Country: CA
Registrant Phone: +1.4165385457
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: rockclimbeveryday.com@contactprivacy.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0136054514
Admin Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0136054514
Admin Street: 96 Mowat Ave
Admin City: Toronto
Admin State/Province: ON
Admin Postal Code: M6K 3M1
Admin Country: CA
Admin Phone: +1.4165385457
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: rockclimbeveryday.com@contactprivacy.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0136054514
Tech Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0136054514
Tech Street: 96 Mowat Ave
Tech City: Toronto
Tech State/Province: ON
Tech Postal Code: M6K 3M1
Tech Country: CA
Tech Phone: +1.4165385457
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: rockclimbeveryday.com@contactprivacy.com
Name Server: NS1.BLUEHOST.COM
Name Server: NS2.BLUEHOST.COM
Olga_i

Sport climber
Valley Village
Oct 13, 2014 - 06:47pm PT
Hi this is Olga and Carlos, owners and founders of RCED. Company is fairly new and very different from other guiding companies. We are not going to put up a wall of guides that are currently independent contractors with us (or as well call it “hall of fame”) for several reason… 1) is what everyone else does, 2) the number of guides we have available varies every season, 3) many more...

The business model has been tailored to be more on the simple side of things for both customers and us. I am currently looking for more help and will be posting several jobs on the new job board soon.

We are based out of Ontario, California - not Canada. Not sure where or why all that other Canadian info came on on that search someone else did.

Please feel free to contact us with questions.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Oct 13, 2014 - 07:54pm PT
Olga, thanks for being up front. Get ready for the flames. And, ignore them.

You are doing what many of us have dreamed of doing. I hope it works for you.


I sure wouldn't take it on. Lot of people want to learn to climb.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Oct 13, 2014 - 08:13pm PT
^ Jon, looks like its Tucows, the domain registrar for rockclimbeveryday.com, that's in Ontario, Canada. This kind of listing prevents the store/website owner's, sometimes home, mailing address from being listed on the internet. Good for basic privacy.

Website server is in Provo, UT.

I know you all are hoping to discover that Piton Pete is their (unadvertised, non AMGA) head guide, from the Ontario that's north of the border :-)
Olga_i

Trad climber
Ontario, CA
Oct 13, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
Oh Spider Savage, Thank you for your comment. It has been one of the nicest things anyone, beside our clients, have said to us in quite a while. Funny you mention, we just started getting the heat. We have gotten the nasties emails in the past week or so. Your advice comes to us with perfect timing. It has been quite the roller coaster ride. What you have said, really means a lot to all of us.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Oct 13, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
Olga, that you are posting up like this is a good sign. As Spider says, don't get sucked in by "trolls". Some people on the internet have nothing better to do than see if they can create trouble, and entangle and waste other's time.

Best of luck with your business. There's a big need for good training, especially with so many new climbers starting inside. People need to learn different skills to be safe on real rock in an outside environment :)

Olga_i

Trad climber
Ontario, CA
Oct 13, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
Kunlun_Shan, Thank you. We are keeping our focus and heads up, and people like you remind us what this is all about. Safety 1st, community, collaboration, education, and much more... Thanks again
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 04:40pm PT
Ha, Ha, Ha.....bad guess, Locker, that's just a link. Having a link to the AMGA doesn't mean an affiliation with the AMGA. The AMGA has no knowledge of this business and the AMGA representative indicated that there is a high level of "STINK" in the CEO, Olga, claiming to be certified, especially through the AMGA. Joshua Tree National Park, the San Bernadino National Forest, and the Angeles National Forest have NO "outfitter" permit on file for Rock Climb Every Day. Looks like a bootleg operation at best.
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 05:03pm PT
Locker...what do they call a dumb cow??

















An Oxy Moron!!!

Small minds are easily amused. You ought to know that.

But you digress. The point is that you can't assume that a business or individual is affiliated with another entity just because they post a link on their website. It's deceptive and misleading, and a poor business practice.
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 05:17pm PT
Come on, Lock. Get your old butt off the floor and take this seriously. Someone could bet hurt or worse, badly injured by a wild cat guide.
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Oct 16, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
rurprider, what's the deal? are you owner of a competing guide service? do you have a vested interest in this disscusion? full disclosure requested
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
Lil' Z...I just found the website while looking at Fixehardware, Backcountry, etc and saw all the trips and thought sh@t, that's a lot of business and wondered why we'd never heard of them before? RMI, Sierra Mountaineering Int'l, Yosemite Mountaineering, Vertical Adventures...we've seen them and know they're legit, but here's a company that leads tons of trips to Joshua Tree, Idyllwild, Barstow, Santa Clarita, Riverside,....but apparently has no affiliation with the AMGA ...just seems off. That's it. And I like messing with Locker 'cause he loves lost gear posts so much. What's your story...big guy??? Just surfing for a gooood time?
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Oct 16, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
thanks for sort of answering my question, hope the disscusion continues

poor Locker, get's no respect, he's the Rodney Dangerfield of ST

edit. insert Cosmic manip here
rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
Cool, Cosmic. I love "Parrotheads!" Middle aged, adolescents. Bring on the Jimmy Buffet stuff.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBsPZV14I-k

We need more Cheeseburgers and less BS.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Oct 16, 2014 - 07:02pm PT
Just took a look at the website. They have the AMGA in a link area called "Protect America's Climbing" along with the Access Fund and Friends of Joshua Tree. I don't get the impression by that, that they are claiming to be AMGA certified nor can I find any evidence they are claiming that anywhere on their site. I'd like to know where you see any evidence of the owners claiming to be so, to the point where you felt the need to talk to the AMGA and ask about it? I must be missing something, I'm not seeing the "STINK" you're referring to.

That being said, I would also like to know how they are offering all these "guided" trips when they don't seem to have a guide permit on file anywhere they say they are going. I don't like wildcat guiding services, people get hurt and then it makes all guides look bad. Not to mention it's too damn easy to starve to death trying to work as a certified guide as it is.
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