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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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There's no escape from the authoritarian police state.
Its sad, but not surprising at all!
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Bad Climber
climber
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Wow, yet another Forest Service F*cktard. The fined climber somehow cost the rescue team 20 min. in getting to the injured fellow? Yeah, and just how is that? Rescue crew says they were using his rope, but not for rappelling, so the fined climber could have gotten out of the way? Jeezus, what's not to hate about the Forest Service when they pull crap like this?
BAd
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Locally a cop cited a fireman for the same reason.
The EMS issuer of the citation needs to issue an apology and thanks to the climber for his help. A little retraining as well would be appropriate.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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That is why there is a court system fortunately. Take it to the judge. Should be pretty easy to get dismissed.
Stupid and annoying situation though.
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speelyei
Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
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Lame
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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If they laid a hand on his rope in anyway, he needs to send a bill for a new rope to that counties SAR...
Our SAR wold gladly reimburse him for his expense, and appreciate all the effort he did to help cut DOWN the rescue time.
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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I'm sure there are many stories. I think he needs a forehead sticker. Volunteers?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Finally, get your Thoreau or Emmerson on: Really, I can't criticize the forest service. I'm sure there are some good folks there. It's our forest anyway, right?
edit: Get rad!!! Don't pay the fine, start your indefinitely extended stay in the forest, stake out some dumpsters, compete with the vermin, etc. etc.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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"Ten to one there's more to this story than meets the media!"
I'm game! What ya want to bet?
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speelyei
Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
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Chances are the LEO who had to write the citation thought it was lame, too. Just one of the many undesirable aspects to law enforcement.
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WanderlustMD
Trad climber
New England
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Obviously, it is idiotic on the part of the Forest Service to cite the guy. But I wonder why he didn't leave when they asked him to over the phone before EMS arrived (if that part is indeed true).
In any case, the citation should be dropped. Come on, people...
Werner?
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Ezra Ellis
Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
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I had a friend who was there, the media actually got this one right.
But, it's complicated by the fact that the ranger who cited him was killed on duty less tHan a week later.
Sad and f-ed up all around!!
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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"civilian rock climber" ....pfft.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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There really is a lot of cluelessness in that video, can't believe I just forced my way through it.
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WBraun
climber
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This my personal opinion and is no way affiliated with any professional agency.
This a total bullsh!t call.
He had moved out of the way during the actual rescue.
He said he wasn't leaving and that's that.
Why he should leave boggles me????
What if the the chopper had to abort the operation?
He wasn't in the way.
Their argument can be if the the helo operation fails somehow and crashes he could be killed and they are liable or a rock comes loose and hits him etc etc.
The civilian rescuer could leave before the hoist rescue operation and while jumaring out knock a rock onto the victim causing further problems.
Or the civilian somehow has a problem during his attempt at leaving the scene and thus cause more problems and delays.
There so many different scenarios that "could happen" it was better for him to stay there according to this situation.
The civilian climber made the call and stuck to it.
Fine, so fine me and we'll settle this court ......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Is there a maximum IQ for becoming a Tool, like, mmmm, say 75?
Or the same as a newscaster?
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Sanskara
climber
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Jebus
I think I have a ST crush on you. You make me laugh...
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Bunch of rescue cop control freaks, such a shock, BFD.
The smirk on that child's face and his stupid words - the guy that lowered from the helicopter - glad he didn't kill anyone, seemed like the type that could really f*#k something up and not realize it.
The "civilian" executed everything perfectly, IMO, they were just jealous and territorial.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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I make a point of contesting my tickets in court. If this was me, I would without hesitation pursue these means. Total Bullshit from what I can tell.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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kahola, I wouldn't show up in court expecting justice to be served.
In my experience the courts generally give the Tool the benefit of the doubt, and then some.
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