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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Jan 22, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
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Great idea I like it
Interested in how they hold up over time, that precision fit seems crucial to proper, safe operation
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
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What an ingenious idea.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 22, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
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Interesting innovation, but it clipping it on the rope end of a draw, or through a fixed piece, while sketched out might take some practice.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
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Very clever idea. I, too, wonder about its long-term durability, and I also wonder how easily I could clip it with one hand in the real world. Still, I can certainly see its increased safety vs. both a wire gate and a conventional gate.
John
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
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Smart stuff makes me smile...I'm smiling.
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miwuksurfer
Social climber
Mi-Wuk
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Jan 22, 2014 - 05:55pm PT
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Rock Exotica has had a "twin gate" caribiner for years. The bi-wire.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Jan 22, 2014 - 06:01pm PT
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I could definitely see the immediate benefit in a variety of situations, but yeah...it's kind of hard to imagine being able to clip in those moments of desperation. Really ingenious design, though!
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salad
Big Wall climber
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Jan 22, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
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i dont think i have ever made a clip that wasnt desperate
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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Jan 22, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
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Pretty cool actually. The demonstration video is a classic as well.
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fat-n-sassy
Social climber
San Francity, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
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what salad said
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
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^Hey I resemble that remark...now if I could just get outside to actually belay. urgh...
PS you forgot to mention my belay hat and wicked cool belay glasses : )
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Sacramento
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Jan 22, 2014 - 08:05pm PT
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Would want a whole rack of them but could be nice to replace a locker or two. Usually not desperately clipping a locker and I like the speed of use in that category.
Also could be good for holding nuts or pins while on aid climbs. I can't tell you how many times my partners or I have had the old phantom unclipper drop a few precious offset nuts off the capitan.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 22, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
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These biners are good for climbers.
I know yer all scared so get these and ya won't be scared no more.
Well done video Stevie ........
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Rocky IV
Social climber
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Jan 22, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
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I can't wait for the rock and ice review that gives it 5 stars.
Looks like it could have its uses. I might get one, but I'm young and invincible, so I mostly trust the archaic technology of screw gates and consider them good enuff.
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Jan 22, 2014 - 09:04pm PT
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A 'must have' for those who wear Da Brimm.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose and south lake tahoe, ca
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Jan 22, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
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Man I could have use this top rope soloing today. I was using half the rope with backup knots, and it would have been really nice to not lock and unlock the locking carabiner I was using for the knots to my harness. I will buy one of these just for that.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Jan 22, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
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Well, I won't completely disregard it until I get a chance to hold it and try it personally, but at first look it seems...gimmicky.
Yeah, all the things in that video can happen, but not back-clipping and using draws will mitigate most of them a high enough percentage of the time for me to feel safe, certainly safer than the time I'd spend hanging in a tenuous position trying to fumble-f*** with the dual-gate the first few hundred times I tried to clip it. Also I don't think I've ever worried about how long it take me to close or open my screw-gate 'biner.
And +1 for how much does it cost?
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