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Sport climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 22, 2014 - 04:54pm PT
Here some info and a video of the new twin gate carabiner from Grivel.


Trad climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
Great idea I like it

Interested in how they hold up over time, that precision fit seems crucial to proper, safe operation
Dick Erb

June Lake, CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
What an ingenious idea.

Mountain climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]

ok that's badass...

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
Interesting innovation, but it clipping it on the rope end of a draw, or through a fixed piece, while sketched out might take some practice.

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
Very clever idea. I, too, wonder about its long-term durability, and I also wonder how easily I could clip it with one hand in the real world. Still, I can certainly see its increased safety vs. both a wire gate and a conventional gate.


Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
Smart stuff makes me smile...I'm smiling.

Social climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:55pm PT
Rock Exotica has had a "twin gate" caribiner for years. The bi-wire.


Trad climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 06:01pm PT
I could definitely see the immediate benefit in a variety of situations, but's kind of hard to imagine being able to clip in those moments of desperation. Really ingenious design, though!

Big Wall climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
i dont think i have ever made a clip that wasnt desperate

Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
Jan 22, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
Pretty cool actually. The demonstration video is a classic as well.

Social climber
San Francity, CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
what salad said

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
^Hey I resemble that if I could just get outside to actually belay. urgh...

PS you forgot to mention my belay hat and wicked cool belay glasses : )

Trad climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 08:05pm PT
Would want a whole rack of them but could be nice to replace a locker or two. Usually not desperately clipping a locker and I like the speed of use in that category.

Also could be good for holding nuts or pins while on aid climbs. I can't tell you how many times my partners or I have had the old phantom unclipper drop a few precious offset nuts off the capitan.

Jan 22, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
These biners are good for climbers.

I know yer all scared so get these and ya won't be scared no more.

Well done video Stevie ........

Jan 22, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
A couple of things:

They didn't compare it to an auto-lock carabiner

What is the cost? Nothing here:
Rocky IV

Social climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
I can't wait for the rock and ice review that gives it 5 stars.

Looks like it could have its uses. I might get one, but I'm young and invincible, so I mostly trust the archaic technology of screw gates and consider them good enuff.

Social climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 09:04pm PT
A 'must have' for those who wear Da Brimm.

Big Wall climber
san jose and south lake tahoe, ca
Jan 22, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
Man I could have use this top rope soloing today. I was using half the rope with backup knots, and it would have been really nice to not lock and unlock the locking carabiner I was using for the knots to my harness. I will buy one of these just for that.
looks easy from here

Ben Lomond, CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
Well, I won't completely disregard it until I get a chance to hold it and try it personally, but at first look it seems...gimmicky.

Yeah, all the things in that video can happen, but not back-clipping and using draws will mitigate most of them a high enough percentage of the time for me to feel safe, certainly safer than the time I'd spend hanging in a tenuous position trying to fumble-f*** with the dual-gate the first few hundred times I tried to clip it. Also I don't think I've ever worried about how long it take me to close or open my screw-gate 'biner.

And +1 for how much does it cost?
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