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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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May 14, 2013 - 09:42am PT
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The phone companies caved in long ago. They should only release info with a court order.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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May 14, 2013 - 09:47am PT
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This is a jailable offense IMO. Same with them recording all phone calls and emails. Total bullsh#t.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2013 - 10:31am PT
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There's a big difference between exposing corruption and national security. Hang 'em high.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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May 14, 2013 - 11:04am PT
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what bigger risk to the health of an independent and vigorous investigative press that is a critical function in regulating the excesses of government?
what independent and vigorous investigative press?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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May 14, 2013 - 11:18am PT
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what independent and vigorous investigative press?
why Fox News of course
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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May 14, 2013 - 11:25am PT
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Remember a few years ago when Bill Belichick received a hefty fine for stealing the defensive signals from the Jets? I thought this was ludicrous; that if the Jets wanted their signals to remain confidential they should disguise them a little bit better.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2013 - 11:31am PT
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How did he know those signals weren't disinformation?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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May 14, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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but at what bigger risk to the health of an independent and vigorous investigative press that is a critical function in regulating the excesses of government?
hahahaaaa... independent and vigorous investigative press... hahahaaaaa!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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May 14, 2013 - 11:47am PT
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^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, that independent and vigorous investigative press...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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May 14, 2013 - 11:48am PT
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'vigorous investigative press"
What is that, anyway? Journalistic independence & integrity has become pretty hard to find these days.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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May 14, 2013 - 11:49am PT
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Ewe sheeple really are clueless as to what's
in store for us, aren't you?
Don't know what's in store fer u but I'm goin cragging
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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May 14, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
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from john yoo:
"The Justice Department's seizure of the AP's phone records shows that this administration cares far more about power than political and civil liberty. It has intruded on the freedom of the press in ways that the allegedly power-hungry Bush Administration would never have dreamed.
When the Bush administration was wracked with the leaks of classified information about its counter-terrorism policies, most notably its interrogation and electronic surveillance programs, Democrats in Congress happily took advantage of the information. Nary a peep was heard about protecting national security and preventing the media from publishing classified information.
But now President Obama has to live in the leak-happy world that he and his colleagues created to undermine the last administration. And they don't like it. Unlike the Bush administration, however, they are willing to go to lengths that threaten the freedom of the press to stop it -- this administration has conducted far more investigations and prosecutions for leaking than its predecessors. And, for the most part, this administration has gotten away with it from the press, which has given them a pass on civil liberties compared to how they treated Republicans.
I deplore the Obama administration's assault on freedom of the press. But I have no sympathy for the AP or the mainstream media, because this is how you get treated when you are in a politician's pocket. If the AP's editors and reporters and their colleagues at other newspapers had been more adversarial toward this President, as they were with President Bush, they would been treated with far more respect. The AP should wish for a return of the days of a Republican administration, which considered the press a worthy adversary, rather than a servant to be mistreated at will."
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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May 14, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
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bookworm, [edit] John Yoo is a moran and that is one of the most pathetic examples of pandering to idiots on the right I have ever seen.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
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The executive branch (Obama administration) does not order the judicial branch (DOJ) to do anything.
That's pretty hilarious. Are you Jay Carney's assistant?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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May 14, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
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Yoo Tool.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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May 14, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
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The judicial branch didn't provide an order to get the AP phone records. The DOJ does not fall under the judicial branch.
The phone companies gave up the records at the request of the DOJ.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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May 14, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
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I stand corrected. Thanks mono.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
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My reading stands corrected; I only saw DOJ.
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