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Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 13, 2013 - 11:40am PT
The original thread went missing and was deleted. You can read it here: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2090428&tn=0&mr=0

A somewhat well concealed thread popped up in its place.
So, here is the link to the new Help Blitzo Thread with some instructions on how to donate etc.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2091149&tn=20

Edit: Some posts and threads got deleted or messed up. Here is a pasted summary post for Blitzos present situation:

I posted this last night... before the thread got sacked. Here it is again, with a foolproof way to send him some cash:


Mar 11, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Ok...

This fundraiser stuff is once again running rampant and misinformation and half-cocked ideas are swirling the bowl, not just for the Bloot, but others as well.

As for Blitzo and other really broke folks. There are a lot of obstacles in the way for a guy in his position. Real people that have jobs and function at a level somewhere above the hard deck don't realize just what a ball ache it is to be really poor. I'll outline some of it for you:
1. Bank account. They cost money. $15 a month for them to hold your money. Some months there is not $15 even available, never mind a continuous bleed off month after month. A spotty financial history makes it so you can not even get an account.
2. Car: insurance, registration, past due registration, upkeep, parts, labor, and then gas. This big package gets him down the road, but with no money for gas, and where is he going? Not to a job, because he has no car. Can't have a car, because he has no job. It is a cycle. Joyriding around without a purpose is expensive and does not produce income.
3. Food and county services are somewhat taken care of, but if ya earn any money they will take your benefits. If you don't earn any money, then you need to roll down to the office on occasion to fill out some paperwork or maybe go to the doctor. No car? No bus fare? Bike usually has a flat? All of these apply. Miles of walking are involved, usually pushing the bike that has a rip in the sidewall. Tires aren't cheap when you are in this position, so I guess more walking is in his future. Bus pass? We tried that. Pass was never purchased since he decided walking 2 hours to get one hour of work was a better deal.
4. Work: This is a tough one. Can't get to work without a car. Pay is so low that after working all day, you can almost afford the gas to get back home. Work is sporadic at best. Jobs in these bottomfeeder towns are hard to find and the pay is low. And in reality, Blitzo is not running a huge skillset when it comes to generating cash. Past employment history does not show a shining example for employee of the month. Drug testing is a small problem at certain times. The no money thing usually takes care of that last one though. As for getting paid, the employer can't really give him a check, and must go to the ATM to get cash. Not always that easy to do or available for legit sources.
5. Selling prints. Sounds great on the surface. This is something being actively pursued by his "agent" and others. But of course, the images will have to be found, a printer sourced that is willing to ship for him, a web page that is maintained with his images, and since they are doing all the work, they want the biggest cut. For example, all you guys on here that say they will buy a print... just how is that going to work? Who is printing the image? How is it getting to you? How are you going to pay so that the funds are even accessible? He has a computer that randomly shuts down and restarts sometimes 20 times an hour. He has no real internet access unless he stands outside with a long extension cord (because the laptop battery is fried) and foil wrapped on his head to get 1 bar from a leaking Wifi down the street. How is that uploading images or emailing files to anyone?
6. Shelter etc: So far the beyond generous Will has this covered, but nothing lasts forever. The Pit? That is usually the next stop on the gonner tour. Having less resources will not help things and the Pit is batting zero in financial success stories.

There are plenty more roadblocks in the way for all these poor guys with problems. The whole dynamic is very complex and different for each person. So, what can really help? Is a fundraiser going to cure all of the above? Hardly. Will it get him over a hump? For sure. So, if you want to send Blitzo some money, so he can maybe get set up to run Wills' car, and have enough gas to drive it, send it. If you want to make sure he has a spare bike tire so he can get to the store or rake weeds on some sand lot for $20, send it. If it makes you feel good, send it. If Jesus tells you to send some money, send it. If you want to buy a print, hold that thought until some sort of gallery is in place that can actually process, serve, and ship images.

I'm sure ya'll are bumming out with my Debbie Downer dose of realism, but that is the situation right now.

So, for PayPal, do the usual routine of going to http://www.PayPal.com and in the send money tab, choose "personal" so there are no fees, put in
RevBlitzo@Hotmail.com This is his account that he can't really use since they will not give him a Debit card or allow any withdraw of funds since he has no bank account. But, as a workaround, he can transfer it to me from his PayPal account, and I can give him the cash or make purchases for him. Of course anyone who donates and wants to see where the money is, goes, or gets siphoned off to will be supplied with that information. Unlike some of those other black ops, nobody is behind the curtain on this gig.

Want to send a check? Don't. Cashing checks is a problem and costs a fair bit of money. Blitzo has a PO Box, and I'll edit in that info when I get it so you can send a sawbuck or two in the mail.

Questions? Email me. Got solutions? Post them up.

Thank you and have a lovely day.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 13, 2013 - 11:42am PT


THANKS RUSS!!!...




EDITED:

I simply was(am) NOT organized enough to make it happen for the n00b...






John M

climber
Mar 13, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
What??? You asking for wealth redistribution?
Norwegian

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 13, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
russ i'll offer to the highest
bidder one of my mountain zealot items:
Credit: Norwegian

not this lamp exactly,
though they are all lovely.

the stone is all legally (?)
gathered from the violent drainage
of some sierra watershed.

they cost like 50 bucks to ship
so minimum 100 bucks.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 13, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
took the liberty of cross posting this :


I posted this last night... before the thread got sacked. Here it is again, with a foolproof way to send him some cash:


Mar 11, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Ok...

This fundraiser stuff is once again running rampant and misinformation and half-cocked ideas are swirling the bowl, not just for the Bloot, but others as well.

As for Blitzo and other really broke folks. There are a lot of obstacles in the way for a guy in his position. Real people that have jobs and function at a level somewhere above the hard deck don't realize just what a ball ache it is to be really poor. I'll outline some of it for you:
1. Bank account. They cost money. $15 a month for them to hold your money. Some months there is not $15 even available, never mind a continuous bleed off month after month. A spotty financial history makes it so you can not even get an account.
2. Car: insurance, registration, past due registration, upkeep, parts, labor, and then gas. This big package gets him down the road, but with no money for gas, and where is he going? Not to a job, because he has no car. Can't have a car, because he has no job. It is a cycle. Joyriding around without a purpose is expensive and does not produce income.
3. Food and county services are somewhat taken care of, but if ya earn any money they will take your benefits. If you don't earn any money, then you need to roll down to the office on occasion to fill out some paperwork or maybe go to the doctor. No car? No bus fare? Bike usually has a flat? All of these apply. Miles of walking are involved, usually pushing the bike that has a rip in the sidewall. Tires aren't cheap when you are in this position, so I guess more walking is in his future. Bus pass? We tried that. Pass was never purchased since he decided walking 2 hours to get one hour of work was a better deal.
4. Work: This is a tough one. Can't get to work without a car. Pay is so low that after working all day, you can almost afford the gas to get back home. Work is sporadic at best. Jobs in these bottomfeeder towns are hard to find and the pay is low. And in reality, Blitzo is not running a huge skillset when it comes to generating cash. Past employment history does not show a shining example for employee of the month. Drug testing is a small problem at certain times. The no money thing usually takes care of that last one though. As for getting paid, the employer can't really give him a check, and must go to the ATM to get cash. Not always that easy to do or available for legit sources.
5. Selling prints. Sounds great on the surface. This is something being actively pursued by his "agent" and others. But of course, the images will have to be found, a printer sourced that is willing to ship for him, a web page that is maintained with his images, and since they are doing all the work, they want the biggest cut. For example, all you guys on here that say they will buy a print... just how is that going to work? Who is printing the image? How is it getting to you? How are you going to pay so that the funds are even accessible? He has a computer that randomly shuts down and restarts sometimes 20 times an hour. He has no real internet access unless he stands outside with a long extension cord (because the laptop battery is fried) and foil wrapped on his head to get 1 bar from a leaking Wifi down the street. How is that uploading images or emailing files to anyone?
6. Shelter etc: So far the beyond generous Will has this covered, but nothing lasts forever. The Pit? That is usually the next stop on the gonner tour. Having less resources will not help things and the Pit is batting zero in financial success stories.

There are plenty more roadblocks in the way for all these poor guys with problems. The whole dynamic is very complex and different for each person. So, what can really help? Is a fundraiser going to cure all of the above? Hardly. Will it get him over a hump? For sure. So, if you want to send Blitzo some money, so he can maybe get set up to run Wills' car, and have enough gas to drive it, send it. If you want to make sure he has a spare bike tire so he can get to the store or rake weeds on some sand lot for $20, send it. If it makes you feel good, send it. If Jesus tells you to send some money, send it. If you want to buy a print, hold that thought until some sort of gallery is in place that can actually process, serve, and ship images.

I'm sure ya'll are bumming out with my Debbie Downer dose of realism, but that is the situation right now.

So, for PayPal, do the usual routine of going to http://www.PayPal.com and in the send money tab, choose "personal" so there are no fees, put in
RevBlitzo@Hotmail.com This is his account that he can't really use since they will not give him a Debit card or allow any withdraw of funds since he has no bank account. But, as a workaround, he can transfer it to me from his PayPal account, and I can give him the cash or make purchases for him. Of course anyone who donates and wants to see where the money is, goes, or gets siphoned off to will be supplied with that information. Unlike some of those other black ops, nobody is behind the curtain on this gig.

Want to send a check? Don't. Cashing checks is a problem and costs a fair bit of money. Blitzo has a PO Box, and I'll edit in that info when I get it so you can send a sawbuck or two in the mail.

Questions? Email me. Got solutions? Post them up.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 13, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Weege, that's a $200 lamp, minimum.
Shipping is extra.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 13, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
I will be psting a pic of a flying starling mount- theres enough birders here that maybe it will get a bid or three- its suspended off of a tule top -landing with a one foot attachemnt- and the wing tips are curled with the force of a down stroke.! Sets atop a small glossy black base..table top style piece.

Gotta help the BLOOT- as a thank you for so many stellar iconic climbing shots weve come so fond of!


ps,, he was a window fatality...


edit: BITCHIN LAMP WEEG!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 13, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson



Varous view of the AUCTION piece for the BLOOT! This starling is in full spring plumage with bright iredescent purples and greens, has eye rings , toes and taursus injected to prevent shrinakge and air brushed to mating colors. It was a masters piece in the 2007 WORLD Competiton in Reno NV, where 48 states and 54 countries were represented. Hes fighting for balance as he hangs onto the tule top by one foot.

Let the bidding begin, we will figure out the transfers of funds later..Its for BLITZO!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 13, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
Very nice Ron. Bump for blitzo
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 13, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Bump for Blitzo.

Hang in there bra

something is on its way
mhay

climber
Reno, NV
Mar 13, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
Bump for killing starlings.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 13, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
the pics DONT capture any of the color in this bird..
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Mar 13, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
That's a beautiful positioning you worked up for that bird.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Mar 14, 2013 - 01:37am PT
I'm not much for mounted animals. Just don't get it.

But that starling is really well done!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:43am PT
Nice work there Ron.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 14, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
thanks folks,, and Munge,, its just another form of art, like a painting that captures a moment in time,, only 3D...
James Wilcox

Boulder climber
The Coast
Mar 14, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
Thanks for all the info, Russ. As needs arise please Keep us updated. I'll kick in when I can.


The New Age Blitzo

Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Mar 14, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
Thanks so much, everyone, for helping out!
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
Bump
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:18am PT
No one interested in the starling piece?? Starlings are darlings ya know.

The LAmp of WEEG's is purdy cool too!
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