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SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 12, 2013 - 05:39pm PT

Sheesh I'm reallllllllllllly HURT
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 12, 2013 - 05:52pm PT




Steve...

your heart and wallet were in the right place...

no need for you to feel hurt...

I didn't respond because there was and is nothing set up to accept moola for the n00b...

Nothing personal...





Total THREAD DRIFT:



and...

we NEED to get on that neck bending roller coaster this season!!!...




Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Mar 12, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
If the issue is keeping your Medi-Cal coverage then there ways around that. Medi-Cal establishes a $2,000 limit for eligibility. A house and vehicle are excluded when calculating that amount. However, you can get around the cash aspect of that by establishing a special needs trust. Parents will often establish one for a disable child so they can receive an inheritance that they can use to supplement whatever they receive from Medi-Cal, but because it's in a separate trust controlled by a third party trustee (such as a family member or trusted friend) it is not counted toward the person's $2,000 eligibility limit.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Mar 12, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
Project New Bloot reboot!
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Mar 12, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
I posted this last night... before the thread got sacked. Here it is again, with a foolproof way to send him some cash:


Mar 11, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Ok...

This fundraiser stuff is once again running rampant and misinformation and half-cocked ideas are swirling the bowl, not just for the Bloot, but others as well.

As for Blitzo and other really broke folks. There are a lot of obstacles in the way for a guy in his position. Real people that have jobs and function at a level somewhere above the hard deck don't realize just what a ball ache it is to be really poor. I'll outline some of it for you:
1. Bank account. They cost money. $15 a month for them to hold your money. Some months there is not $15 even available, never mind a continuous bleed off month after month. A spotty financial history makes it so you can not even get an account.
2. Car: insurance, registration, past due registration, upkeep, parts, labor, and then gas. This big package gets him down the road, but with no money for gas, and where is he going? Not to a job, because he has no car. Can't have a car, because he has no job. It is a cycle. Joyriding around without a purpose is expensive and does not produce income.
3. Food and county services are somewhat taken care of, but if ya earn any money they will take your benefits. If you don't earn any money, then you need to roll down to the office on occasion to fill out some paperwork or maybe go to the doctor. No car? No bus fare? Bike usually has a flat? All of these apply. Miles of walking are involved, usually pushing the bike that has a rip in the sidewall. Tires aren't cheap when you are in this position, so I guess more walking is in his future. Bus pass? We tried that. Pass was never purchased since he decided walking 2 hours to get one hour of work was a better deal.
4. Work: This is a tough one. Can't get to work without a car. Pay is so low that after working all day, you can almost afford the gas to get back home. Work is sporadic at best. Jobs in these bottomfeeder towns are hard to find and the pay is low. And in reality, Blitzo is not running a huge skillset when it comes to generating cash. Past employment history does not show a shining example for employee of the month. Drug testing is a small problem at certain times. The no money thing usually takes care of that last one though. As for getting paid, the employer can't really give him a check, and must go to the ATM to get cash. Not always that easy to do or available for legit sources.
5. Selling prints. Sounds great on the surface. This is something being actively pursued by his "agent" and others. But of course, the images will have to be found, a printer sourced that is willing to ship for him, a web page that is maintained with his images, and since they are doing all the work, they want the biggest cut. For example, all you guys on here that say they will buy a print... just how is that going to work? Who is printing the image? How is it getting to you? How are you going to pay so that the funds are even accessible? He has a computer that randomly shuts down and restarts sometimes 20 times an hour. He has no real internet access unless he stands outside with a long extension cord (because the laptop battery is fried) and foil wrapped on his head to get 1 bar from a leaking Wifi down the street. How is that uploading images or emailing files to anyone?
6. Shelter etc: So far the beyond generous Will has this covered, but nothing lasts forever. The Pit? That is usually the next stop on the gonner tour. Having less resources will not help things and the Pit is batting zero in financial success stories.

There are plenty more roadblocks in the way for all these poor guys with problems. The whole dynamic is very complex and different for each person. So, what can really help? Is a fundraiser going to cure all of the above? Hardly. Will it get him over a hump? For sure. So, if you want to send Blitzo some money, so he can maybe get set up to run Wills' car, and have enough gas to drive it, send it. If you want to make sure he has a spare bike tire so he can get to the store or rake weeds on some sand lot for $20, send it. If it makes you feel good, send it. If Jesus tells you to send some money, send it. If you want to buy a print, hold that thought until some sort of gallery is in place that can actually process, serve, and ship images.

I'm sure ya'll are bumming out with my Debbie Downer dose of realism, but that is the situation right now.

So, for PayPal, do the usual routine of going to http://www.PayPal.com and in the send money tab, choose "personal" so there are no fees, put in
RevBlitzo@Hotmail.com This is his account that he can't really use since they will not give him a Debit card or allow any withdraw of funds since he has no bank account. But, as a workaround, he can transfer it to me from his PayPal account, and I can give him the cash or make purchases for him. Of course anyone who donates and wants to see where the money is, goes, or gets siphoned off to will be supplied with that information. Unlike some of those other black ops, nobody is behind the curtain on this gig.

Want to send a check? Don't. Cashing checks is a problem and costs a fair bit of money. Blitzo has a PO Box, and I'll edit in that info when I get it so you can send a sawbuck or two in the mail.

Questions? Email me. Got solutions? Post them up.
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 12, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
Thanks, Russ.
John M

climber
Mar 12, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Thanks Russ. As usual, you cut right to the chase.

Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Mar 12, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
At a minimum, I'll get the bike tire/tube situation sorted out this weekend.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 12, 2013 - 07:13pm PT
Credit: mouse from merced
Miss Information doing the laundry.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Mar 12, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
Russ, thanks for reposting that info.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 12, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
Hardman said:
"Locker nuked the thread. -cue Couchmaster to add him to his official list of thread deleters..."
Sorry, I canknott list it as it's such a fine example of good fellowship with pure intentions.

Locker is right on here, but I think it would be fine. Still - better safe than sorry. Good of you to worry over a friend Locker, damned inspiring.
"I deleted the thread because Blitzo emailed and was worried that it might fuk him up..."

Wishing the best to all, but especially Blitzo. Sadly, The Blut gets screwed again as the money I donated went to a "Walter Serniuk". Crap, and I have a sh#t load of bike tires in my basement thanks to the kid who was starting a bike shop down there and then abruptly moved out. Thanks for the email address Russ. I tried.
MisterE

Social climber
Mar 13, 2013 - 12:12am PT
Message sent.
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Mar 13, 2013 - 12:23am PT
I never report anything. I leave that up to someone else.

But I live in my shop & there's not much to report.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 13, 2013 - 01:53am PT
Bump for Blitzo.

Hope to be creedlin' in some shady recess in Josh again soon.
bmacd

Trad climber
100% Canadian
Mar 13, 2013 - 01:56am PT
Wishing the best for you Blitzo ...
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Mar 13, 2013 - 02:12am PT
If you say money isn't the answer, you look like a chump.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 13, 2013 - 08:44am PT

Russ, did you get my message?
Check your spam box. . .
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 13, 2013 - 11:33am PT


I will be hanging out and climbing with the n00b in just a couple of days...

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!...

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 13, 2013 - 11:52am PT
Russ... Thank you for the low down.

I do have a idea that I think might work.

Invest any of the small donations into:

Make some really nice prints, good paper, something one can look at really see....

And take them to that Farmers Market/Art Show thing that goes on on saterday, and try to sell some. I know that the farmers market might want a cut, I bet they would maybe give you a spot to sell for free if he helped clean up the farmers Mkt.

One needs to go with your strong points, and he sure does take fab photos....

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 13, 2013 - 11:55am PT
If it would help I can host a site for blizto to display his images. can't really help on the creation of the images and I can't promise the site would be very fancy. It would be very usable and I'll do all the set up. I'd also be willing to pop for the $9 domain name if that would help.


And if Blizto plans on making it to sushifest he's covered on the food costs. I'll add him to *that* list ;-)
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