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Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Nov 8, 2009 - 06:25pm PT
It was, to my best recollection, always
"the Sacherer Cracker,
after Royal repeated the route and gave
it its name, one of his classic puns.
My first trip up the route (have
made many ascents of it since) was with
Bridwell in about 1966 or '67 (would
have to look at my journal), and
certainly Bridwell called it
"the Sacherer Cracker" at that time.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 8, 2009 - 06:37pm PT
Pat-Do you recall if it gave Frank a rough time or "cracked' everybody else?
TripL7

Trad climber
'dago'
Nov 8, 2009 - 08:22pm PT
Mighty Hiker- "AFAIK, the green Meyers guide was published in the summer of 1976".

As far as I can recall, George had barely began working on the guide by the summer of '76'. But I could be wrong.

Perhaps there was some sort of a preliminary draft by the Fall of '76' available at RR's store in Modesto, because George was a good friend of Royal's. I remember George speaking admirably of him (George guided for Royal's 'Rockcraft' seminars during the mid '70's).

I recall George going to Patagonia the winter of '75-76', and after his return from there his photo's being stolen (summer '76'?). But that could have been the summer of '77'.

I recall George having big hopes of a "secret endeavor" of his being successful. That was the Spring/Summer of '75'. I believe I was the first person he revealed the nature of it to after much prodding on my part. He had sunk his whole pay load into a half page add (maybe it was a quarter page) in the 'Wall Street Journal' as a private climbing guide/school/get away, in the Eastern Sierra.

I remember finally asking him the outcome, poor George, he got only one response to the add.

George's next 'endeavor', was a 'chimney sweep' business in Mammoth that some how didn't fare much better.

After the publication of the green Roper guide of '72', there was a notebook in which anyone doing a new route would document the route there in.

By the mid-seventies this notebook was considered a guarded/protected (my evaluation) document. It had become a sort of part of the C4 culture. In other words, this is the way it is, no new guide books. The 'Valley' had already been to over trodden, and it didn't need another guide.

I remember when George announced his intentions to write a new guide. It gave me pause. I was a bit startled, perhaps I raised my eyebrows. But it was clear to me that George was determined to go through with it. It was a bold and what initially seemed like a somewhat confrontational exploit.

But as it turned out, everyone was ready for it if the right man stepped to the plate, and George was the man, he had paid his dues.




TripL7

Trad climber
'dago'
Nov 8, 2009 - 09:44pm PT
Jan!

For what it's worth, from the early '70's I herd it pronounced as the Sacker-rur Cracker. And concluded that rather than calling it the Sacherer Crack, they called it the Sacherer Cracker to rhyme with his last name.

But that was merely my conclusion.

Frank Sacherer was held in the highest regards amongst 'Valley' climbers, and renown for his boldness by the time I lead the route in 1974.

I remember my three friends being repelled by a thin hand/finger crack about thirty feet up. And how sweet it felt when I sunk and locked off the first digit of my right index finger, and dropped in a wired nut to protect the rest of the crack leading to the 5.8 off-width/chimney.

I remember several occasions when I was tempted to shout out the classic Frank Sacherer exclamation "come on you chicken shit" to one of my climbing buddies.

There was an often told story that went along with that well known line, that has slipped my memory at this time.

Frank Sacherer was a 'Legend' by the time I became enamoured with Yosemite. So much so, (there was a certain reverence applied to the man) that in my mind I had presumed that he had already passed away.

And so when I read of his death in 1977 I was very much saddened and surprised.

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
Nov 8, 2009 - 09:50pm PT
I'm certain that the first (green cover) of Meyer's Yosemite Climbs was commercially available (Robbins' shop, Currie mountain shop) in September 1976.

He may by then have been working on Yosemite Climber (picture/history book), but it wasn't published until 1979 or 1980.

The green Roper guidebook was published in 1970.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 8, 2009 - 09:54pm PT
Jorge posted here for a while, I bet he could answer the question.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
Nov 8, 2009 - 10:16pm PT
Luckily Sacherer Cracker is such a fine climb that it's unlikely that anyone will find that it's not what it was crackerered up to be.
TripL7

Trad climber
'dago'
Nov 8, 2009 - 10:43pm PT
Mighty Hiker!

You are definitely correct in regards to the green Roper guide. I still have the one I purchased in 1971 around here someplace, I don't know why I said '72'.

Regarding the green Meyer guide, mine is long gone. I new it wouldn't last long with the paper (cardboard)cover.

It probably was the fall of '76'.

George became totally consumed (understandably so) with his efforts to accomplish what he did. Just my opinion. And the carefree guy I new was following a deep down aspiration to achieve success. He occasionally spoke of achievement, and in his good natured way encouraged me to aspire.

Those are two of his traits I remember most, his good naturedness/ allot of fun to be around, and a determination to succeed in life that rose above the norm.

I just recall avoiding an encounter with George after about Spring of '76' because it would usually intail a request to take the majority of a day to hike up some obscure canyon to get a shot of such and such face.

So my memory is fuzzy regarding dates to say the least.

I hope I am not embarrassing anyone here, because I obviously admire the man, and just decided to share some of my memories.

And sorry Jan about getting off the main topic, I tend to have a round about way of getting to the point.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 9, 2009 - 04:27pm PT
Taken of me by my partner and friend, Darwin Alonso, in 1970:



KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Nov 9, 2009 - 06:43pm PT
Steve, did Mark of Art in '84. Super good continuous climbing on stellar stone. Required six or so cams of the same size if I remember correctly. Wild country # 1 friends.....classic!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 9, 2009 - 07:57pm PT
I did the Mark on nuggets only, BITD and it was pretty stout. The name came from Mark Chapman and Art Higbee, the FAers back in 74!

Peter- Hanging and banging must have made the bottom really tough since it keeps widening all the way the first good hand jam!
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Nov 9, 2009 - 08:00pm PT
Nice! A bit harder fishin' in nuts I'd imagine-
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2009 - 12:23am PT

Just got a note back from Royal that reads in part:

"I don't remember naming the Sacherer Cracker. I was going to suggest asking Pat Ament, but I see you have already looked into that. I don't think it's Crackerer by the way. I am sorry I can't confirm or deny."


Next stop, Bridwell. Does anyone have an email address for him?
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Nov 10, 2009 - 12:32am PT
Royal's memory is very good in most respects, but some
details are lost, things that at the time probably
would not have seemed overly important. Then years go by.
I would almost bet my life he named it. In fact when
I went to Yosemite with Royal in 1964, I have a vague memory
of him saying something along the lines of Sacherer doing a crack,
and then adding, "a Sacherer cracker." I can't positively confirm
that memory, but I usually do remember reasonably well. He was
nutty with puns and word plays in those days, almost more so
even than in later years... Only Kamps really got into the
word games as much as Royal...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
Will know soon
Nov 10, 2009 - 12:39am PT
Have you asked Bonnie K.? She has a Great memory. lrl
WBraun

climber
Nov 10, 2009 - 12:40am PT
Jan -- "Next stop, Bridwell. Does anyone have an email address for him?"

Contact, Bullwinkle or Todd Gorden they have Bridwell's contact info.

http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=PT4_ODU2Oyk,

http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=ODsyNTU3Oyg,
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
Nov 10, 2009 - 12:42am PT
Jan, Todd Gordon is in regular touch with Jim Bridwell, and could perhaps ask on your behalf. I have the impression that he doesn't have e-mail, at least not regular e-mail. Others may have contact information.

My friend Hamish (Hamie - posted to the Frank Sacherer thread) was in the Valley a lot in 1964 and 1965, knew many people, and might remember something about the name. Except that he's in southeast Asia for another few weeks.
gonzo chemist

climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
Nov 10, 2009 - 02:54pm PT
great climb! I think it was my first pitch of 5.10 in the Valley.




Right after I led S.C., my partner led Mark of Art. He was so casual on it that I thought it would be a cruise. I found it to be quite a bit more pumpy than I imagined, even just following it. I can't imagine hanging around to wiggle in nuts.

-Nick
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Nov 10, 2009 - 03:20pm PT
I once heard Royal say of someone we both knew: "He is ofter right, but speaks always with the same authority." Great line.

In response to Jan's original question, I re-read portions of Meyers' "Yosemite Climber" last night (the siging copy came to me yesterday) and George spelled it "Sacherer Cracker."

Regarding the attirbuiton, I can image many people in the Valley who would have rephrased "Sacherer Crack" or "Sacherer's Crack" as "Sacherer Cracker."
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 11, 2010 - 03:13pm PT
Ultra-classic Bump!
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