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Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 7, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
The Cook et al. study really is a pretty neat, simple design (actually, two designs, both of which reach that 97% number) though certainly not the last word. It would be straightforward for critics to replicate any number of ways, but for all the blog hysteria none have tried.

At the same time, Cook et al. basically confirms, by new methods, what other studies have found too. And what anyone who is curious could find out for themselves, informally, by checking through recent journals or looking up position statements by any major science organization.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
EDH
a model based on simply empirical observation largely through time series is not on very solid ground... a model based on physical principles is on solid ground

And the current 48 plus Climate Models and the process from which they come from has/have failed miserably.

Both the SPM-6 and AR5 confirmed that fact.

NOT one of those models ever indicated the current Hiatus.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
I've read the abstract. It's bullsh#t.

No, you have not read it. Passing your eyes over the words does not count. Mainly what you've done is repeat over and over that you know it's lies and bullsh#t. But none of your "quotes" corresponds to what the abstract actually describes. C'mon, it's only 166 words, how hard can that be? Focus, see if you can get what they are reporting.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
point accepted
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
Dayum. You zealous alarmists are a pigheaded dishonest lot.
Seriously full of sh#t.


Fail. I'm neither zealous nor alarmist, and unlike you I actually know what Cook et al. did. All I've tried to do here is get you to read the abstract of an article you've been shouting is "lies." You dodged that challenge over and over, apparently because you can't.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
Later.


Big loss.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
One last thing: Boo hoo hoo. You sure whine a lot.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
BAGLADY^^^^^^^^^^^^BAD ORIFICE









Just as there's an industry based on extracting and using fossil fuels, there's now an industry based on government subsidies to various "industries," climate change "experts," and so on. We recognize that there's bias on both sides, and so we tend to take everything with a grain of salt.

+1
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
EDH
These models reproduce the behavior of the climate with a great deal of accuracy over time periods long compared to the decade time scales, a challenging time scale to predict. They do this by taking ensemble averages over the various scenarios of ENSO, volcanoes, etc...

Thus you agree that all these short termed models are failing.



The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
Like your FIVE edits earlier..... my bad. SIX edits.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
EDH
it means the inputs are incorrect...

Appears then that all the inputs have been so, INCORRECT, since the mid 90's EDH!

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
Still can't read it so now you call names. Think that fools anyone but you, sketch?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
And not one of them MODELS has indicated any ADJUSTMENTS to reflect the ongoing STALL. Not one.

Yet the IPCC and GISS etal insist that this HIATUS is nothing more than a burp and a 30 year time frame constitutes a trend.

How convenient to cover the reality that the models are indeed failing to reflect reality.

LOL, Sketch is The Chief

Now anyone that comes on here and calls you fools out is me.... you are one paranoid dumb shet.

Besides numnuts MONO, you have said that about three other folks, including RICK S when he starting posting.

NOT!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
Heh.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
Gee... thanks.
Spitzer

climber
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Good grief.
crunch

Social climber
CO
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
Hey Sketch, I love the way you keep getting shown to be clueless, yet bravely blunder back into the fray, trying to change the subject.

One last thing.

Several pages back, I brought up the subject of what we might do to mitigate rising CO2 levels. One person responded.

All of your chicken little alarmist just went on with efforts to squelch the opposition.

The issue isn't global warming. The issue is shutting down those who aren't on the chicken little bandwagon.

How telling.

That person was me. You stated:

Outside of a global pandemic/catastrophe, eliminating a significant portion of the population, nothing can be done to reduce atmospheric CO2 levels.

It ain't gonna happen..

You were misinformed. When I corrected you, your response was to change the subject, throw out some random, vaguely related questions. A panic response.

You're trying the exact same panic-driven behavior again--Change the subject! Let's change the subject!, now that Chiloe has taken your misinformed assertions about Cook's paper and trampled them like a bunch of grapes.

No mercy on this thread, sorry
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
LOL, Chief, keep up the edits.

No where near your count today numnuts MONO.

Chief 1
MONO 6

No mercy on this thread, sorry

So says one of the lead Alarmist that proliferates the totally unrealistic and unprovable doom
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
ONE clown MONO compared to your SIX. Two in one post for you.


CRUNCH:

You have utilized and proliferated short term weather events to perpetuate the DOOM AGW machine.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=970221&msg=2158467#msg2158467
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 7, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
Prove that I was MONO.

You can't.
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