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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
If that makes you happy....


Now - about this principle.....
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Chef,your always RIGHT.

Similar to the drivel you post up,aye?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:14pm PT

Here:

The supposed Consensus consistently undermining/discrediting any one Scientist that goes against the status quo. Basically, "Banning" them due to their unwillingness to join the CONSENSUS in this particular issue. Doing everything it can to discredit and ruin their professional careers. All to keep them quiet and as far away from the public as possible.

Now the CONSENSUS is gonna be brought down hard with the official publishing of the AR5 in the next week or so.

Basically saying that they indeed did treat all them "skeptical" scientist with the undue treatment and disrespect that they have over the past 10-15 years by admitting to all these issues that they pronounced as gospel for the past ten or so years. Feeding the policy makers globally a bunch of "erroneous statements and misrepresentations" over and over for all that time.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
Here:

The supposed Consensus consistently undermining/discrediting any one Scientist that goes against the status quo. Basically, "Banning" them due to their unwillingness to join the CONSENSUS in this particular issue. Doing everything it can to discredit and ruin their professional careers. All to keep them quiet and as far away from the public as possible.


This is your principle?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
So what was that ,maybe a dozen scientists ,you are talking about.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
The real truth .....

I've always considered climate change "Man Made" ......


amazing, isn't it?

even someone so relentlessly bitter, childish and stupid as wBraun gets it

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:32pm PT
NORTON,

Somehow, I do not believe Werner meant it in the "literal" sense as you may think he did.

The "climate change" I believe Werner is referring to is not at all the one you all are posting about.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
well chief

I doubt Braun can even give a definition of Climate Change

nor be able to distinguish it from "weather", yes he really is that stupid

he said what he said, and so just because you disagree with him lets pretend he meant it
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
A dozen??

Not...

The Truth will soon come out. When it does, so will the many of professional researchers and scientist that were taken down by the "Consensus".

BTW, next week, 40 of the authors who contributed to the report and supposedly produced a definitive scientific consensus have been called to a four-day meeting in Stockholm, together with representatives of most of the 195 governments that fund the IPCC, to answer many questions regarding the 15-20 year hiatus that was never admitted to up till recently and the failed climate modeling process that the policy makers were taking as gospel all this time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Global-warming-just-HALF-said-Worlds-climate-scientists-admit-computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html


NORTON:

There is far more to Climate Change than anything in physical sense as all you white coats insist there only is.

That there lies your main issue.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
dailymail, lol
WBraun

climber
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
No Chief is right and it's not how you really think I meant it.

It's way too complex for fixed up gross material lab coats and internet mental speculators to understand.

By the way Norton .....

You're still stupid ...... :-)

(Americans are the most lied to people on earth by their stupid leaders.)
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
OK this "principle" thing started with norton explaining what Chuffs Modus operandi is. Chuff said his purpose and presence here is a mater of principle. I ask what is this principle? He says:

Here:

The supposed Consensus consistently undermining/discrediting any one Scientist that goes against the status quo. Basically, "Banning" them due to their unwillingness to join the CONSENSUS in this particular issue. Doing everything it can to discredit and ruin their professional careers. All to keep them quiet and as far away from the public as possible.

I will attempt to guess the principle involved. It is the principle of fair play. Can't argue with that. If what he claims is true (above) he has a case that fair play was compromised. Outside of the world of science, I will assume that he believes this principle is violated by my allegations that certain skeptic / denier scientists are biased due to religious or political allegiences.

let me know if I'm on mark Chuff.

2 things: If he can substantiate this then he has a case. I'm not sure how he can substantiate the science case as he can't, he can only rely on sources he trusts for some reason. I also havn't heard a reasoned rebutal to my well explained position about religious and political bias's either - only assertion.

The other thing is if he is so concerned about principle, why does his concern stop with how Michael Mann or other consensus types have recieved similar attacks on their credibility? Why the disparity in judgement?

As well, isn't it better to let the science sort itself out rather than us mental speculators guessing about what is or is not fair play?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
Brewsky, you will never understand. Never.

Nor will most here that are shoulder to shoulder with you. You are too humanistic in all manner of thinking.

Far too full of yourselves.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 16, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
Brewsky, you will never understand. Never.

Nor will most here that are shoulder to shoulder with you. You are too humanistic in all manner of thinking.

You sound quite certain. Almost religious
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 16, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
Religion is just another form of scientism.


Nope.

Nothing to do with religion. Nothing.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 16, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
If you don't get "principle" Bruce no amount of explanation from anyone, including The Chief, will suffice in relieving the vacuum that occupies the place of your soul. I'm afraid only you can redeem yourself.

Capintheazz- what kind of lame excuse for a paper trail is that. Let's see the grant proposal, cancelled check, or an affidavit with Soon's signature affirming the funding source. Your wack wing blog post "lift" just doesn't cut the mustard.

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Sep 16, 2013 - 09:19pm PT
If you don't get "principle" Bruce no amount of explanation from anyone, including The Chief, will suffice

Boy ain't that the truth!?

Huh?

HUH???!!!

DMT
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 16, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
Thats really interesting rick. So I am supposed to "intuit" Chuffs principle? Well if you nor he is going to give me a hand then that is what I intuit from his obtuse references. I think he is talking about fair play. What principle do you think he is talking about?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 16, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
The same principle that has allowed you to attain your many summits on some pretty impressive peaks. The same principle that allows you satisfaction for your jobs well done and by your own efforts.

Below are many pictures of many, many polar bears happily adapting to the ever changing climate, just as they have done for the last 50,000 years.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=polar+bears+on+a+whale+carcass+photo&FORM=IGRE
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 16, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
Oh boy - I love riddles




The principle of freedom?
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