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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
I stand corrected Dirt,, yes the BARRED.

The grey are simply competitors for food and lodging.




And Johnny,, i think its like silver springs property.. Wont ever go UP lol!


I told Rick to get out again before he leaves up norf, maybe this weekend.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Dingus, you bet there have been local successes but they werent generated by mythical maybes.

Good point. Consider leaded gasoline, for example.

The oil companies were perfectly happy to continue making and selling leaded petrol. It was their god given right (as corporations are people, right?) to make whatever the hell people would buy.

Some scientists no doubt funded by a get-the-lead-out conspiracy, said the lead was causing the smog. Big Earl said no, that's bullsh#t. Plus its too costly to get the lead out.

The Peoples' Republic of California actually fought for and passed emissions standards that forced big oil and big auto to change their ways DESPITE the yankee thrift of their customers. The switch to unleaded petrol came at a cost, a cost many were unwilling and many claimed unable, to pay.

L.A. was cleaned up as a result. The result of the PEOPLE passing LAWS to force OTHERS TO STOP POLLUTING. Government action, start to f*#king finish, with big business standing square in the way all the while.

I do agree that global warming reduction emission standards are going to be difficult to achieve. Forgive me, but the 'throw the arms up, tune out, drop out, give up and die fishing' strategy of the Chief is not appealing.

Good day to you, Sir
DMT
dirtbag

climber
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
The great gray owls are competitors?

Source?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
Greys habitat is far more varied that Spots, but they ALSO like the spots habitat and range throughout spotted owl distribution. See any Bird Book of the western US.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
My daughter speaks Russian. My father did nuclear business with the Soviets (haha tioga!). Economic systems are not a matter of religion, for me. Governing systems are not a matter of religion for me either.

DMT
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
yeah well....

explain THIS, and how the Screaming Loon is involved then:

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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Your an excellent driver..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
Yahh,, they said the same things about spotted owls in the 80s... The EXACT same crap actually. Anecdotal indeed. "How can you ignore the SCIENTIFIC FACT" they said..

Your putting trust in a governmental push.. The same govt that has a 16 TRILLION dollar debt. The same gubbmint that wanted to blast Syria but weeks ago. The same gubbmint that has for all purpose looked like the previous ones in every way. The same gubbmint that has now invaded your privacy's to record extent. The same ones that bailed out billionaires and car companys with your dollars. And yeah the same ones that ADMITTED that they listed the polar bear (only country to want it- not even Canada signed on)due to worry about the FUTURE and an iceless arctic..You trust them to cure GW? Guffaw`1!!!!!!!!!!!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
Tell that to Lake Erie and L.A. smog.

And the Ohio River, once an open sewer, now a great place to fish.

When I first started surveying, a big concern when doing any sort of excavating along the freeways was aerially deposited lead. (WTF is that I wondered when I first saw it on a set of plans. I had visions of crop dusters spraying lead along the freeways.) Of course, it came from auto exhaust.

How to dispose of that contaminated soil was a PITA for the engineers and the contractors. Now it becomes less and less of an issue as lead is no longer being gassed into the air. It's saving the taxpayers a lot of money.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
As this photo of Steller Sea Lions huddling together for warmth shows, there is great
concern that their populations could maybe be reduced due to the dropping sea levels
in Lake Michigan and Lake Huron.

What are we to make of this, or even do about this?

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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 04:56pm PT
Fortmental,, in case youve not heard,, a 60% sea ice increase in one year in the arctic.. The polar bears dont need to adapt, but since they once CAME from a brown bear population, the reverse can most certainly happen. So worry knott, when its 85 degrees in the arctic winter by 2020 and palm trees are sprouting. The P bears will just change their coats and become more the omnivore they once were.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
perfect! neighbors suck.

anything local-ish is good. Sumner,s Secret Summit,s too far out this weekend for me. relatives lurking.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
oh yeah, climate-
last weekend the temperature dropped, and i got a cold. how,s that for empirical evidence? ha!

ok, somebody graph that please...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
That ledge was gnarly eh Johnny lol!

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
The Marine Iguana population in the Southern Pacific continues to drop.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
An african oryx was declared extinct in its native lands. Only to be brought back to life there from the efforts of hillbilly redneck racist nazi killer homophobes and their ranches in Texas where they USED to raise them until GOVT intrusions made that no longer possible.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
good gariief..Charlie Brown..


Yes One year made up for the previous 4 years. If it does the same next year, that figure will be the previous 8 years.

Tell me again how BOTH the antarctic and arctic are growing,, the temps have been FLAT for a decade or better but GW is rampant..??

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Oct 4, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
Trend have been going on since times records.. UUUUp,, DDDDoowwnnn UUUPP dowwwnnnn uuuup,, dowwwnn...Now we are going to STOP that. Is THAT "natural"..??
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 4, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
Why did miners worry about canaries in the mines? They were just a bunch of stupid birds.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Oct 4, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
Polar Bears are scary and they bite people. Good riddance!
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