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monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 11:52am PT
It means you have to ignore about a decade's worth of warming to start the 'pause'
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 24, 2013 - 11:55am PT
Comedy
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Not at all, Sketch. The jump from the trend line happened in 97.

If you want, we can start the 'pause' in 2008.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:01pm PT
From a statistical point of view, I don't see a 'pause'.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
And no, we have not had a 'pause' in global warming.

Credit: monolith
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
Enjoy your cherries.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
Each 'pause' higher than the last.

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
And we don't buy the 'pause' either.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
Yes your right Ed, we haven't had a pause, instead we should call it a phase change to a cooling climate. You are well aware of the change in Enso to a period of reduced El Ninos and more and/or longer La Ninas, the cool phase of the PDO, the AMO at plateau or decline, the lack of significant volcanic aerosols, the slowdown of the MOC, and most importantlty the change to a distinct quiet sun phase. Seems the oceans have given up the heat just to keep us in something resembing what you call the pause.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
Don't those blogs just piss you off Ed? Wonderful resources with many serious scientists posting real climate science for public consumption. Im On a cell phone but somebody should repost the excellent article by Dr Gray.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
How come no trend lines Chief.

You want us to just eyeball it?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
Why no trend lines, Chief?

You afraid of trend lines?

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Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
talk about "a pause"

I think it's a plateau

Of course, a towering plateau for the chump is a local minimum for the rest of us.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
And before your alleged "pause",what was that a "pause" in your denial.

Ed might not say it ,but I WILL ,Yeah, you deniers piss me off.

Scotch-Irish,but mostly Scotch tonight.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
How come no trend lines leading up to the 'pause' Chief?

Are you afraid what they might reveal?

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monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 24, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
Look where your trend line would intercept, Chief.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Dec 24, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
New research published two days ago in Nature Geoscience (emphasis added).

Small influence of solar variability on climate over the past millennium
Schurer, Tett, Hegerl
The climate of the past millennium was marked by substantial decadal and centennial scale variability in the Northern Hemisphere1. Low solar activity has been linked to cooling during the Little Ice Age (AD 14501850; ref. 1) and there may have been solar forcing of regional warmth during the Medieval Climate Anomaly2, 3, 4, 5 (AD 9501250; ref. 1). The amplitude of the associated changes is, however, poorly constrained5, 6, with estimates of solar forcing spanning almost an order of magnitude7, 8, 9. Numerical simulations tentatively indicate that a small amplitude best agrees with available temperature reconstructions10, 11, 12, 13. Here we compare the climatic fingerprints of high and low solar forcing derived from model simulations with an ensemble of surface air temperature reconstructions14 for the past millennium. Our methodology15 also accounts for internal climate variability and other external drivers such as volcanic eruptions, as well as uncertainties in the proxy reconstructions and model output. We find that neither a high magnitude of solar forcing nor a strong climate effect of that forcing agree with the temperature reconstructions. We instead conclude that solar forcing probably had a minor effect on Northern Hemisphere climate over the past 1,000 years, while, volcanic eruptions and changes in greenhouse gas concentrations seem to be the most important influence over this period.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 24, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
http://www.woodfortrees.org

"Computers are great tools for helping you think; just never rely on them to do the thinking for you."

Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Dec 26, 2013 - 04:22pm PT


wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 26, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Malemute,those are great videos,they cut to the core of the problem.
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