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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2013 - 10:29am PT
Mono, this is a great clip, I want to post it again so folks don't pass it up...

Fast and furious, all the deniers on this thread should watch it. That is, if they want to learn something about the subject.


k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2013 - 10:34am PT
So far so good. Another year coming to an end with no climate change disasters.


Looks like you don't have any friends that live around Boulder, CO.


Where they experienced a 1,000 year weather event.


But you're probably thinking of just the US...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_extreme_weather_events
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 11:07am PT
That video does quite a job, hitting the main denier memes head on. And quickly! But will a single one of the denialists here watch or try to understand?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 1, 2013 - 11:15am PT
I watched it.. Wasted 3:41.. Who is that weasel talking like hes on a binge of extra caff coffee. I know i wont ever listen to him again. Wound a little too tight for me. I did notice he conveniently FORGOT to mention all those past sunken flag ships ..
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 11:30am PT
"But will a single one of the denialists here watch or try to understand?"

I watched it.. Wasted 3:41.. Who is that weasel talking like hes on a binge of extra caff coffee.

Sounds like the understanding part went way over your head. Prove me wrong: What does he say about Antarctica?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 1, 2013 - 11:31am PT
He reminded me of "SHAMWOW MAN"....Pre- rehab..
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 11:46am PT
"But will a single one of the denialists here watch or try to understand?"

I watched it.. Wasted 3:41.. Who is that weasel talking like hes on a binge of extra caff coffee.

"Sounds like the understanding part went way over your head. Prove me wrong: What does he say about Antarctica?"

He reminded me of "SHAMWOW MAN"....Pre- rehab..

OK, Ron has no clue. Anyone else?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Nov 1, 2013 - 11:51am PT
Denialist Excuse #5 (they don't have that many)

I don't like the commentator's speaking style.

Science!!!

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 1, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
Dunno but listening to the the shamwow wannabe on before coffee ISNT advisable....
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
"But will a single one of the denialists here watch or try to understand?"

I watched it. Saw a few misrepresentations. Very entertaining.

Sketch's turn. Specify the few misrepresentations.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Nov 1, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
http://inhabitat.com/president-obama-issues-executive-order-to-prepare-the-united-states-for-climate-change/
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
He says it is true that many warming events began without carbon dioxide levels increasing first, but once the warming began CO2 levels increased GREATLY AMPLIFYING THE WARMING! That last part is not proven, but it is his main point.

This is not misleading, it's well established in many recent studies. Just grabbing one at random, Parrenin 2013:

Our chronology and the resulting aCO2-AT phasing strengthens the hypothesis that there was a close coupling between aCO2 and AT on both orbital and millennial time scales. The aCO2 rise could contribute to much of the AT change during TI, even at its onset, accounting for positive feedbacks and polar amplification (21), which magnify the impact of the relatively weak rCO2 change (Fig. 4) that alone accounts for ~0.6°C of global warming during TI (21). Invoking changes in the strength of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation is no longer required to explain the lead of AT over aCO2 (22).

He goes on to say 90 percent of the warming took place after the C)2 levels increased, implying CO2 levels were causing the additional warming.

CO2 and other GHG played a large role, that's well known. See above.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
Regarding the lack of recent warming, he absurdly uses 2009 to now. A three or four year trend is much less compelling than a 15 (or 17) hiatus, don't you think?

How many denialist blogs have you read that use a two-year comparison, 2012 and 2013 Arctic ice?


Then he shows a 30 year chart, with 1998 cooler than every year 2004. It's BS.

Nope, not BS, that's a well-known graph showing temperature anomalies after adjustment for ENSO, solar and volcanic effects, per Foster & Rahmstorf (2011).
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 1, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
Let's see. Warming (from a relatively cool base) causes increased plant growth, which results in more CO2 production. Hmm.

Is that the Sketch hypothesis?

You're 0 for 4 in finding those misrepresentations you claimed.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Nov 1, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
http://inhabitat.com/pacific-ocean-warming-at-fastest-rate-in-10000-years-study-shows/
juneclimber

Sport climber
june lake, ca
Nov 1, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
<i>k-man

It's interesting, juneclimber, where you get your news.</i>

Haha. Everywhere...you can't trust just the BBC!

And...

Credit: juneclimber

or, is it...

Credit: juneclimber

Is it any wonder people are waking up to the scam. It's like a Monty Python skit...how can anyone take it seriously anymore?
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Nov 1, 2013 - 03:58pm PT
You can "take it seriously" if you actually read the content about how climate change works. Focusing just on the catchphrase "global warming" misses the overall effect on local weather. How about you read some actual science on ocean currents and precipitation patterns rather than depending on the newspapers or blogs for your information?
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Nov 1, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
Really? Don't recall offering any opinion on Lance, either on ST or elsewhere. Could be wrong, I guess, but the stakes are totally different on this one, don't you think?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 1, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
Rick Poedtke wrote:
Nope. Not lost. Just been out in my Tea Party Desert Compound backyard. You know, the over 500K plus BLM/USFS acres directly behind my house. Been out playing with my new toy. Amazingly accurate at 200-300 yards with a 12 Gauge Hornady SST Lite 2-3/4" 300 Grain FTX Slug.

Can only imagine what this would do to some fk wad bad guys chest or forehead. Would have loved to have had this bitd.

Fking-A.... smooth as silk!





It is obvious that you FORTMENTAL are still struggling desperately trying to get laid or NOT get your ass beat by your Spouse.


Obvious that the dumbass in the youtube fkstick short flick definitely has a PhD. You should go hook up with him FORTMENTAL. Nah. He'd probably beat your ass as well.

Too bad.

Was that some sort of threat?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 1, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
I will thank you to remove your BS copy of my avatar and BS enhancment of my name. Who ever your shrimp d*cked self be..
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