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WBraun

climber
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
Dr F -- "It's OK, because after that, God will just power our cars and run our factories on Love"

He already has and does eternally from the beginning of the entire cosmic material creation.

Not even a leaf can move without him moving first.

You're a terrible stupid scientist ......
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
yes Fort I realize that, i'm not beholden to your rules nor conform to your approved terminology. CO2 is cycled out of the atmosphere by the biota, ocean uptake, and chemical weathering much faster than the hundreds of years the IPCC claims in parts of it's documents.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
Hey Rick,, i fixed that Bostich compressor- its working fine now! ;-) Im going to blow my C02 over to S CA. They will now have to pay for that lol!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
I'm so glad you guys found each other....you are obviously very happy together.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Great Ron- maybe you converted it into one of the new improved double life span models.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Just doing our part to stay GREEEEEEN! Reclamation and all..
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 14, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Once again...

WERNER GETS IT!!!





You measly human White Coats just haven't a clue.... not one.

You insist on the Three Dimensional World. Until you open your blinded gray matter minds, crawl outta that tiny human ego physical sandbox of yours, you will NEVER understand. Never.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 14, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
Here is another wonderful resource everyone should appreciate. It is an interactive global map identifying areas of the entire globe that reconstructed climatic studies have been performed that confirm that the MWP and LIA were pronounced and global in extent. Simply click on the various locations and the peer reviewed study, or link to it, appears. So simple even a physicist could do it.

http://pages.science-skeptical.de/MWP/MedievalWarmPeriod1024x768.html
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
There will be SUPER FIRES~~~ Hardly comparable to fires BEFORE the industrial revolution...

Ron, that reminds me, you never answered my question about the Rim Fire.

How big do you think it would be if we used pre-industrial techniques to fight it? Think it would classify as one of your "super fires?"


Waiting for an answer....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 14, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
The Siege of 87, CALs greatest fire event used all the modern bells and whistles. Nearly a million acres of flame then. Does that answer your question?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Here is another wonderful resource everyone should appreciate. ...

Rick, on one hand you say the scientists know nothing. On the other, you implore us to look at what a select group of scientists have put together.

So, do you believe the scientists, or don't you?

If you do, then how about this fact: 95% of the world's climate scientists are in agreement about AWG.


The other 5%? We've determined that most are on the budget of those who own coal mines.

Keep denying, there's plenty of sand to go around.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
The Siege of 87, CALs greatest fire event used all the modern bells and whistles.

Odd, I didn't realize they had DC-10s equiped to drop tons of fire retardant on the hot spots back then.

Care to restate that Ron?


PS. 1987 isn't what I'd call per-inststrial. What are you trying to say Ron?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 14, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
They had C-130s, DC 4s, BPYs, Mitchell b-24s, Cessna Agwagons, and many many more aircraft.. But then,, i was there. If you think the dc10 has revolutionized fire, you need to think again.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 14, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
Bruce to tell you the truth, I find atheists to be shallow, scared, hateful little people. Though I have no religious inclinations myself, I prefer to hire, climb, and otherwise interact with those that identify themselves as religious, or at least deferential to a higher and unknown power than the false religion of CAGW and other over hyped sciences designed for the purpose of social engineering. I have no problem, nor should any independent thinking person, with the good scientific works of the people you mention. Their science is separate, and is independent, of their modest religious beliefs.

You speak heresy K-man. Try to remember your blogger/social scientist in chief Mr. Cook et al has officially identified 97.1% of 64 scientists, out of 12,000, as the consensus ratio. Well anyway, 64 minus the five I posted as objecting to be falsely classified.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
You measly human White Coats just haven't a clue.... not one.

Sorry The Chief, but this sounds like another of your "arrogant ego trip soap boxes."

Isn't it past your bed time?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
There will be SUPER FIRES~~~ Hardly comparable to fires BEFORE the industrial revolution...

Then ...


They had C-130s, DC 4s, BPYs, Mitchell b-24s, Cessna Agwagons, and many many more aircraft.. But then,, i was there. If you think the dc10 has revolutionized fire, you need to think again.


Ron, you were arguing that the fires before the industrial age were the biggest on record. My point was that we've figured out ways to fight fires that contains them quicker, meaning that the fires, because of our techniques, won't be as big.

With this, I asked how big you think the Rim Fire would have been without modern fire-fighting techniques.


Focus boy, focus.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 14, 2013 - 01:52pm PT
Kman i already demonstrated that fires get big regardless of fire fighting equipment available. What is key is FUELS. That are now at historically HIGH levels. The jackwagon politickshuns will yammer about GW concerning these fires to confuse, and deflect from the real reasons we have bad fires, and that is the fact that they do not budget our land mangers so they CAN take care of the problems we face now.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
The jackwagon politickshuns will yammer about GW concerning these fires ...

No Ron, it's not the jackwagon politicshuns who yammer about AWG. It's the climate scientists who are voicing grave concerns.


Focus boy, focus.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 14, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
Kman, i more than proved, with a silly lil experiment (psyche 101), the trend of pre-disposed thought patterns of CC types right here in this thread.

One tiny mention that CC may be responsible for America getting phatter was met with an instant,,"there might be something to that"...

They look on everything as an ingredient of climate change.. EVEN the 2000 yr old Jihads are now blamed on global warming.. How much more pathetic will these attempt's to stir support get?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 14, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
Well Bruce, after nearly 60 years on this planet I am still amazed as to the wonder and improbability of it all. Im leaning towards this life, this universe as having a degree of intention behind it rather than a cosmic accident. Once again, I see no problems with Spencer et al, certainly less conflict of interest than those preaching from the church of CAGW as to the preordained evils of man and the properties of the mythic idol CO2.

Yes-none
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