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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 29, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
Chief...So you let the masses think for you..? Scary..
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
a sh#t, an internet poll. The best way to get valid information...
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
Chief...So you let the masses think for you..? Scary..

You know better than that RJ. NOT! I got bigger flies to tie than to worry about this horseshet scam.

PHULE:

You got anything that substantiates your BS about more care about GCC/AGW etc? Post up if you can. But then again, you can't cus there isn't anything to show. The only consensus you all have is amongst your tiny minority selves.

HA! You lose.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
Your god cannot save you from this abuse Norton. Agonizing to watch but your eyelids are fixed open.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:11pm PT

PHULE:

You got anything that substantiates your BS about more care about GCC/AGW etc? Post up if you can. But then again, you can't cus there isn't anything to show.

Sorry, I cant. If I tried I would need to use numbers and it is clear that you don't understand numbers.

Did you know that the number of the world population that lives in:

USA is about 4%
europe 10%
japan 1.8%

I also have to admitt that I don't know what I am supposed to substantiate. I tried to discuss one of your claims. You made a fool of yourself (that sure was fun). What you discuss now I don't know.
raymond phule

climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:13pm PT

HA! You lose.

It is kind of cute when you and rick claim victory all the time.

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Phule=fool. Open your eyes and suffer the agony of success.
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
Fhule:

did you know that the number of the world population that lives in:

USA is about 4%
europe 10%
japan 1.8%


Talk about idiocy and numbers.

How about the #1 FF Coal Plant C02 emitter in the world, China. Like I posted, they contain 19.1% of the planets humans. They DO NOT GIVE A RATSASS about your AGW/GCC Scam. Not one fking iota. All they give a shet about is taking over the worlds economy, at any cost. You stupid naive Utopian Amerken Fhule.

Fhule:
It is kind of cute when you and rick claim victory all the time.

What Victory is that. Nothing to win as nothing has changed. FF's, Coal and Big Oil are still here and still fueling the planet as they have been for the past 100 years. Dumbass.

Fhule:
what I am supposed to substantiate

Your claim that the masses actually give a shet about AGW. They don't.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
Now let's get back to the insults...Chief...You are an ingnorant slut...! RJ
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
RJ:
...slut

Impossible. Dirtbag has that locked up key and all.


SO MUCH for the Arctic Lake story. Oh the Irony of the continuing distortion of the REALITY!

Everyone Chill Out: The North Pole Is Not Really a Lake
Well, I'm sorry to disappoint all you apocalypse trumpeters, but this North Pole Lake story isn't exactly all it's cracked up to be.

According to New York Times' Andrew Revkin, what happened—what is happening—is quite usual, actually:

Ponds of meltwater form routinely on Arctic Ocean sea ice in the summer. The sea ice is floating on the Arctic Ocean and in constant motion.

But the regularity of the melt is only half of this story. The other is the location of the cameras from which the stills were taken, explains Climate Central.

The cameras in question, which are attached to instruments that scientists have deposited on the sea ice at the start of each spring since 2002, may have "North Pole" in their name, are no longer located at the North Pole. In fact, as this map below shows, they have drifted well south of the North Pole, since they sit atop sea ice floes that move along with ocean currents.

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/melting-at-north-pole-how-bad-is-it-16294

As i09 rightly points out, "jumping to the conclusion that the entire Arctic Ocean is ice-free isn't helpful because it distorts the problem and makes it harder for the public to understand how weather at the Pole actually works."

http://news.yahoo.com/everyone-chill-north-pole-not-really-lake-193542663.html

And here:

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/melting-at-north-pole-how-bad-is-it-16294


HERE is the REAL N-Pole Real Time. No lakes to speak of nor any OPEN WATER. Just the NORMAL melt ponds that have occurred on a regular basis for centuries this time of the year:

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 29, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
good refutation actually of the north pole ice photo, Chief

however, the fact still remains that global warming IS real and it IS quite rapidly causing melting in the Arctic

I think the point of posting the photo was simply to refute Rick's contention, not your's chief,
that denies the reality OF the current warming trend

also, I DO agree with the chief that, to a large degree, finances and human resources could be better targeted to mitigate human suffering NOW rather than a warming trend that we are likely to not be able to DO anything significant about anyway
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 29, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
. 09 of one degree and holding steady for the past 15 yrs Norton,, think on it.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 29, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
Chiloe said the camera was not at the North Pole (two pics, 87N and 85N). Even provided the same map above.

If The Chief wants to debunk people who mistook it for the north pole, have at it.
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Nice dance. Now wipe that chin of yours Mono.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 29, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Check his posting history, if you dare.

Do you need help?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 29, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
Days ago, immediately after seeing the photos, it took me all of five minutes to debunk the arctic Pole melt story. I simply googled Arctic ice cam's and noted the location of the ever moving observation buoys. The little meltwater photo was taken from a UW buoy 350 km from the pole. You know guys, its been the coolest summer on record above 80 north after the longest lasting winter in the history of the mid to upper latitudes of the northern hemisphere. The PDO is in it's negative phase and there are indications the AMO is likewise entering negative territory. Alaska (the poster child of global warming) is over a decade into a cooling trend thats seen the average temps decline at 19 out 20 official weather stations 2.4 f. The southern hemisphere is suffering, in wide ranging locales, from cold snaps of historic proportions. Antarctic ice is at historic highs (sea ice especially) and the continent has been in a slight but steady cooling trend for decades. The global temp anomaly for the month of june is minus 0.0129 c. The rocky mountain and plains states are unseasonably cool right now. The formerly supposedly CAGW induced drought states are suffering rainfalls of (albeit t-storms mostly) of epic proportions. Do i need to go on?
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
MONOLIETH:
Do you need help?

Nope.

But you assuredly do as the amount of fludge dripping off your chin will take several towels to clean off.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 29, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
As an excuse for you, Chief, Chiloe did say 3 days ago that the pics were not at the north pole, which seems past the limit of your memory.
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
AH! More fludge to wipe off.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Chief

climber
From the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jul 29, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
MONO, cease licking Larry's ass would ya for gods sake. I know.

CHILOE
Dark purple here represents 100% ice, lighter purple down to about 85%, yellow in the 70s and so forth. The ice is solid almost nowhere.


The reality of all is that this IS NOT an uncommon occurrence this time of the year. As a matter of fact, the Sea Ice at both "POLES" breaks up and drifts out to sea at the lats they are depicted. Very Common.

MAC STATION in Oct has a sea ice thickness of 3-6'. In Jan, well, see for yourself. This too is a common yearly occurrence:
2010



1983(My last of four and half season there)


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