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wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
Yep ,we are enslaved all right

Credit: wilbeer

Unless you are a weak,frail,55 year old,wonder boy,stoned and all alone.

Thanks for the continuous Comedy.

Skating in the morning ,bc skiing the rest of the weekend.ha ha ha !
would be fun on a motorcycle like bitd,but made for speed skating. <br/>
T...
would be fun on a motorcycle like bitd,but made for speed skating.
This annual race was always in november ,you know before.
Credit: wilbeer

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
Global warming is still a myth, wrapped in a lie, and hung around our necks to enslave us.


And you know this how?



And:

All those freezing their butts off are wondering
where all that global warming heat is hiding?


dave, it's hypocritical to use a cold snap to denounce AWG while at
the same time ignoring record high temperatures, year after year, as
an indication of a warming planet.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 13, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
Science is always a scam..

There was this guy in the 1400's who used it to scam money from the queen of Spain.

It's just obvious that the world is flat. If you live in Kansas it's obvious.

Global warming? Don't need no high falooting temperature measurements and stuff.. just lick your finger and stick it in the wind.

Whoops I mistook this for the Friday night drunk thread.

On a more serious note. When it comes to deciding what societal institutions to give credence to.

I'll stick with the one that uses evidence and serious peer review of methods and conclusions.

As always the source of your information matters.

Neither of you qualify as peers when it comes to climate science. Period. You do not have the experience required to to be sources of credible opinion. I'm sorry TheChief and Rick. In fact most of the sources you "cite" are not credible either.

I like both of you a great deal as people. I would absolutely take your advice on certain topics as both of you have exceptional expertise in certain areas. But ask yourself

Would you expect good advice from a world renowned heart doctor regarding house framing? Or naval search and rescue procedures? Even if they had "read all about it" ?

Meh.. I hate this thread.. nothing to be gained except pissing off people I genuinely like and admire. Just happen to disagree on this topic which none of us are likely to have any impact on anyway. Nor is it likely at all that any minds will be changed or that even if minds were changed it would matter one bit.

I should just delete
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 13, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
QED provides theoretical predictions that are accurate to within the equivalent of the breadth of a hair in a thousand miles.

That's science!

Meteorology/climatology can't produce anywhere close to accurate predictions more than a few days in advance.

Guessing, not science.

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2013/12/13/if-all-you-see-979/

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 13, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Depends on what you call "anywhere close to accuracy".

Trying to decide exactly where a bubble in a boiling pot is going is harder than predicting it will boil when the stove is set to a certain temperature.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 13, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
My knee has a better track record.

There are fundamental problems with using multi-variable differential equations to predict anything but simple well defined problems.

If it was a really useful approach for the complex, predicting the stock market would be child's play.

It doesn't even come close to working for that either.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 13, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
I'm not going to argue with you Ed, but you are wrong on your answer. I appreciate you taking the time anyway.

Bruce, i wasn't going to say anything but your chronic mispelling of wether, which is actually spelled whether, is beginning to bother me more than your jackass psychoanalysis. Just saying....

Derek, you are misinformed and your appraisal is off base.

Chiloe, you should talk to some of the solar scientists at the convention, maybe Leif Svalgaard from Stanford.

Good evening gentlemen, ladies and all you crackpots.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:01am PT

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
Global warming is still a myth, wrapped in a lie, and hung around our necks to enslave us.


And you know this how?

It's the same folks who brought us the Kennedy killings, the faked moon landings and 911 od course. Sheesh you been under a rock?



And:

All those freezing their butts off are wondering
where all that global warming heat is hiding?


dave, it's hypocritical to use a cold snap to denounce AWG while at
the same time ignoring record high temperatures, year after year, as
an indication of a warming planet.

Sometimes a poster isn't playing dumb for effect... This is likely one of them.

DMT
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:03am PT
hey rick sumner can i get a copy of that
picture that you took of me
changing local climates?

you know. for my portfolio.
im a professional climate hack
(logger)
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:47am PT
http://www.space.com/23934-weak-solar-cycle-space-weather.html
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:48am PT
Cairo is farther north than New Orleans and even more so compared to Miami.

A little bit south of LA.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:51am PT
What climate folks should do is stop trying to respond to weather event trolling.

DMT

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 10:52am PT
Can't help it randisi!

:D

DMT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2013 - 10:53am PT
I'm not going to argue with you Ed, but you are wrong on your answer. I appreciate you taking the time anyway.



I read a little further, hoping that Rick would explain to us how Ed was wrong in his answer.




Rick, in a real discussion, you need to follow up and explain why you counter somebody's stance. Why is it you never do that??


[Actually, that's a rhetorical question because I believe I already know the answer. It's because Rick has no clue how Ed could be wrong, other than he just doesn't feel he's right.]




But Rick, here's your chance to foster a real discussion. Please help us understand your stance. I would appreciate you taking the time.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2013 - 10:58am PT
Cairo is farther north than New Orleans and even more so compared to Miami.

A little bit south of LA.


And Tahoe is West of LA.



I had a teacher who once said that reality was somewhere between Santa Cruz and Las Vegas. I said, "Bakersfield? Buck Owens has been right all along!"
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2013 - 10:59am PT
Why do you guys continue to talk to these morons? Who's the bigger moron?


You are a moron, k-man.

This post will be deleted with 24 hours.


And Randisi, by your logic, you too are a moron for addressing me.


Go figure.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 11:01am PT
Tick tick tick tick

Consider randisi, these discussions are treated as a, um, workshop, by some of the participants. Understanding the opposition in a place where there is absolutely no consequence to the discussion, at all.

A scratch pad if you will.

There are some real gems in this thread. I too asked, hundreds of posts back, why continue. But if you read the contributions of the science crew and compare them to the trolling of rick sumner and the blog posting of the chief and the weather trolls from sketch?

It frames well the divide.

the chief constantly rails - follow the money. I wonder if the chief will follow the money for his own side of the debate? Got the guts to see who is feeding you the info, the chief?

DMT
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 14, 2013 - 11:02am PT
The Chief agrees, K-Man is a moron for responding to morons.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 11:04am PT
I had a teacher who once said that reality was somewhere between Santa Cruz and Las Vegas. I said, "Bakersfield? Buck Owens has been right all along!"

If Bakersfield is reality? We're FAKKED!



DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 14, 2013 - 11:07am PT
MORONS!

GOOD GOD THE MORON CREW IS HERE

AND IT IS US!!!!!!



DMT
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