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Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:28am PT
Looking at his ugly mug, I'm sure the chump had a lot of stick time. Before he mail ordered the right woman that is. And the rest is history...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:52am PT
Hehe, I'm keeping it light.

You know your mom and dad? You must not be mongol after all.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 13, 2013 - 07:10am PT
I am here just as Malemute has said ,to mock you Chef.

No huge need ,as you have shown,to build my self importance.

Could care less,this topic is not about me.

For you it is.

Credit: wilbeer

It is all about you.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 09:43am PT
Chingadrea Con, 14th reincarnation... dunno bro, you seem to be back sliding.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 09:45am PT
Sorry but that global warming equivalence to terrorism is some stupid f*#king sh#t.

It deserves to be twisted. Its that sort of 3rd grade melodramatic pronouncement that give fool to deniers fire. Laughable. Who the f*#k is that guy anyway? Oh he is a "rear" admiral (gotta love the navy boys in their cute little bell 'bottoms' oh jeez when you look at sailor terms it just never 'ends!'), US Navy.

Nice.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 09:51am PT
Oh right right right right RIIIIIGHT!

No thinking allowed. Denier 101.

Got it.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 09:52am PT
Yes just like they buy destroyers and bell bottoms.

Nice.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 09:57am PT
EEEEE DEEEE AITCH!

Got it.

DMT
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Dec 13, 2013 - 10:10am PT
What the fuk is with you relentless chronic bullshitters???
a sense of worthlessness as deep as the grand canyon
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 10:40am PT
Nice.

DMT

ps. And cheers. You will always have my respect for your service, without qualification.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Dec 13, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
Heard an interesting talk connecting Mongol history with climatology yesterday, amazing what people are learning.
"Pluvials, droughts, the Mongol Empire and modern Mongolia" (Amy Hessl)
Understanding the connections between climate, ecosystems, and society during historical and modern climatic transitions requires annual resolution records with high fidelity climate signals. Many studies link the demise of complex societies with deteriorating climate conditions, but few have investigated the connection between climate, surplus energy, and the rise of empires. Inner Asia in the 13th century underwent a major political transformation requiring enormous energetic inputs that altered human history. The Mongol Empire, centered on the city of Karakorum, became the largest contiguous land empire in world history (Fig. 1 inset). Powered by domesticated grazing animals, the empire grew at the expense of sedentary agriculturalists across Asia, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe. Although some scholars and conventional wisdom agree that dry conditions spurred the Mongol conquests, little paleoenvironmental data at annual resolution are available to evaluate the role of climate in the development of the Mongol Empire.

Here we present a 2600 year tree-ring reconstruction of warm-season, self-calibrating Palmer Drought Severity Index (scPDSI), a measure of water balance, derived from 107 live and dead Siberian pine (Pinus sibirica) trees growing on a Holocene lava flow in central Mongolia. Trees growing on the Khorgo lava flow today are stunted and widely spaced, occurring on microsites with little to no soil development. These trees are extremely water-stressed and their radial growth is well-correlated with both drought (scPDSI) and grassland productivity (Normalized Difference Vegetation Index (NDVI)). Our reconstruction, calibrated and validated on instrumental June-September scPDSI (1959-2009) accounts for 55.8% of the variability in the regional scPDSI when 73% of the annual rainfall occurs.

Our scPDSI reconstruction places historic and modern social change in Mongolia in the context of the range of climatic variability during the Common Era. Our record, in combination with a gridded temperature reconstruction, shows that the climate during the conquests of Chinggis Khaan’s (Ghengis Khan) 13th century Mongol Empire was warm and persistently wet. Tree-ring and meteorological data combined suggest that the early 21st century drought was the hottest drought in the last 1000 years, consistent with model projections of warming in Inner Asia. Future warming may overwhelm increases in precipitation leading to similar “heat droughts”, with potentially severe consequences for modern Mongolia.
Banks

Trad climber
Santa Monica, CA
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:33pm PT

The bottom line is that you take precautions, early, based on your best understanding of the aircraft to prevent failure before it happens, and you don't wait for the failure to happen because you may not survive the failure.

which is admirable behavior, and totally understandable

This was an excellent point made by Mr. Hartouni that was totally lost on The Chief because he was still arguing about aircraft parts. If you replace the word aircraft with climate in the quote above, you have the point for studying climate change in a nut shell.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
The bottom line is that you take precautions, early, based on your best understanding of the aircraft to prevent failure before it happens, and you don't wait for the failure to happen because you may not survive the failure.

which is admirable behavior, and totally understandable

This was an excellent point made by Mr. Hartouni that was totally lost on

It was a point well-made and it did not escape me nor would it likely escape other readers as well, the chief included.

And of course you adjust those precautions as new information comes in. :D

Cheers :)
DMT
Banks

Trad climber
Santa Monica, CA
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
the chief included.

You sure about that?
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
I am cold.

Just saying...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 13, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
The crash of a marine jet fighter into a San Diego neighborhood after the pilot punched out OVER that neighborhood tells me all I need to know about 102% military BULLSH#T.

DMT
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Dec 13, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
AGU now hosting presentations that compare the Mongol hordes to bacteria.

Huh? I missed that.

Last day at the meetings, I'm taking in a couple of cryosphere/satellite seszions.

Two writing assignments to while away the flight home tomorrow.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
Looks like the UK gov'ts just aren't accepting the idea. At all...

    The Chief

Scottish Power becomes third firm to scrap UK offshore wind farm

LONDON (Reuters) - Scottish Power scrapped plans for a huge offshore wind farm on Friday due to tricky ground and wave conditions and the presence of protected sharks.



It looks to me like the UK gov't is accepting the idea wholly that it's difficult to build offshore wind farms due to the conditions on the open sea.

Is that the point you're trying to make? Odd way to put it.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
Doesn't The Chief like to post NOAA charts?

NOAA: Expect 'Widespread, Sustained Changes' in the Arctic





Yes The Chief, look at that hiatus! And then, it goes down!!
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
The North Slope of Alaska just had a rainstorm--yes, a rainstorm--during its perpetual darkness season. Yes, it was that warm!!!! As the pressure and temperature gradients wane between the equator and polar regions, the jet stream will become wavier with greater levels of amplitude as theorized by many climate physicists. This will serve to pump more warmth into the high latitudes--yet another unanticipated positive feedback. Check out the Arctic Sea Ice Blog for ongoing info.
    Karl



An interesting comment on, well, the weather.
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