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nutjob
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 14, 2009 - 04:43pm PT
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My brother moved to Idaho because California was too expensive. Folks with little $$$ stay in Idaho because not many U.S. places are cheaper!
Aside from financial reasons, some folks gravitate toward Idaho and similar places of low population density simply because there are fewer people. Fewer people = less opportunity for conflict (if you are the kind of person who is very particular about the humans with whom you interact).
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Jim Wilcox
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Sep 14, 2009 - 04:45pm PT
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Whatever, Roxx.
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Bill Sherman
Mountain climber
Thousand Oaks, CA
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Sep 14, 2009 - 05:13pm PT
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I just lived out in Montana so that no one would bother me, my dogs, and my guns. It was nice out there until I had to find work somewhere and was transplanted to Los Angeles to work at UCLA. When this is all said and done, I'll be moving back to my home in Bozeman. California does have exceptional climbing but it's not worth putting up with the politics, traffic, and pollution when I can just as easily come out to visit from time to time. There's also no ski resorts in California to rival the snow and conditions found on a regular basis at Big Sky and Bridger. Finally, I'm not too fond of a 7-hour drive to get to some ice climbing when I used to have it in my back yard in Hyalite Canyon.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Sep 14, 2009 - 05:30pm PT
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People live in lots of places for a variety of reasons. One guy's paradise is another's he11. I've spent lots of time in Idaho and think it's a swell place, especially when I get the urge to shave my head, tatoo swazstikas all over my body and have a shoot-out with the FBI.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Sep 14, 2009 - 05:45pm PT
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Why even feed Rokjox, his hatred of all things Californian is pathological. Poor soul.
BTW Rocky boy, if I ever get to Idaho and we are on speaking terms, you've got to get me some climbing days in the Sawtooths, they seem awesome.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Sep 14, 2009 - 06:10pm PT
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50:1 that Anastasia may have ideas as to Bill's plans.
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Barcus
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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Sep 14, 2009 - 06:25pm PT
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Roxjox in wilcox?
That would have me movin on as well!
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Sep 14, 2009 - 07:02pm PT
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You meet the nicest people in the mountains. They are more interesting.
Yes, I left my "belayer" holding the rope, and climbed beyond it long ago, where there is more knowledge learned by a few more knowledgeable people. It is what the human mind is for, if you use it. The American social "belayer" stops you at where thinking people start asking real questions about their inherently corrupted government, any government. All of history proves that the greatest threat to your freedom to make your own choices, with the knowledge you learn, is your own government.
But of course the well-belayed Californians would not understand that. They stay "safe", "secure", "protected", clueless.
Don't know Ann, but she, the rest of you and even the perpetually amusing Park Rangers and Californians are always welcome at the Alaskan Alpine Club HQ. You are a member if you say you are. (Bring some of that fine Californian wine, preferably Lamborn Family, Downing Family, some Frey organic.)
Carry on...
Doug
AlaskanAlpineClub.org
AlaskaStories.com
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Jim Wilcox
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Sep 14, 2009 - 07:50pm PT
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Ah Patrick, you're right. When I pass homeless people muttering to themselves or passerbys I just pick up the pace.
But when they spit in your direction that's another story.
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S.Powers
Boulder climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Sep 14, 2009 - 08:00pm PT
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