John Bachar Memorial Fund, For Tyrus.


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Trad climber
Jul 12, 2009 - 09:23pm PT
Me, too.

Keep us all posted.



Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Jul 13, 2009 - 01:25am PT
Trust me ekaterinafriendofmany we will keep it alive. lynne

Trad climber
Idylwild Ca
Jul 13, 2009 - 07:55pm PT
I am willing to donate 100 (or more if they can be used to help) cd's I have recorded of classical guitar music if a fund raiser or some event is in the works I have 2 cd.s both are acoustic classical guitar and on the mellow side. I am also willing to perform if a fund raiser should arise. hopefully I will be available and not gigging or guiding. Some of the music can be heard at Respectfully EA

Jul 15, 2009 - 03:11pm PT
Found this while digging around,

Can someone confirm?
ron gomez

Trad climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 03:44pm PT
Confirmed!!!! It is a done deal, PLEASE start contributing. I'll see that it gets covered here at ST.
ron gomez

Trad climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 03:46pm PT
fattrad, it's legit.

Jul 15, 2009 - 03:47pm PT
Did Jim Moss have anything to do with setting up the Trust, or did he simply announce it on SNEWS?
John Vawter

Social climber
San Diego
Jul 15, 2009 - 03:58pm PT
Living trust is a generic term for any trust set up for someone during their lifetime. Doesn't have to be for tax reasons. Tyrus is the beneficiary. Someone else is setting it up, the trustor. And someone has to administer it, the trustee.

In those marital trusts the trustors and trustees are the same, the married couple. They control their own assets during their lifetime. Here Tyrus needs someone to manage the money for him, at least until he is an adult.

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 15, 2009 - 04:01pm PT
Cool deal!

Trad climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 04:40pm PT
On another thread or two, I posted this or a version of it, and now I see it belongs here:

Honoring John's Memory

"... I have no words for the death of John, only immense sadness and, now, concern for his son especially and hope there will be a fund or other mechanism so we who stood in awe can take some small positive action in line with our admiration for John, though any such action will hardly stand against the dismay and grief ... any word on whether his family and/or friends are setting up a fund in memory of John for either his son or for works or services John would want supported, or perhaps for a memorial plaque or book or something in his honor?"

OK, so now I see there is a trust fund established presumably by family and attorney. I'm in right now but wonder about longer term. Sure would be good to hear directly from a family member to announce the fund, say a bit about the particulars to give maximum exposure, confidence and understanding to contributors. Maybe this will be coming as we stay tuned. Then there are later questions about some representation of John in an appropriate place, plaque or otherwise, and of course an honorary book, all for later I presume.

Tom Higgins

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jul 15, 2009 - 04:47pm PT
Good, sensible words, Tom. It's good to see you back,
unfortuately for this reason though.

Please don't stay away so long.

Mountain climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
I'm the attorney setting up the Tyrus Bachar Trust and I am going to try and answer some questions that are popping up on this list. I can't get all of them because some I don't know the answers.

The Trust will have four trustees. The trustees have been asked and agreed to serve as the trustees. Those are Robin Thompson, Paola Accusani, John Bachar Jr. (John's Father) and Steve West.

Any amount of money can be donated either by check, going to a Wells Fargo bank or PayPal. At the same time, at the Outdoor Retailer Trade Show we will be asking everyone in the room.

The "fund" is actually a trust that I have written. I've written over 100 of these trusts.

I'm sure, when Tyrus is ready, he would love to know more about his father and have some fun with people in the outdoors.

If you have any more questions you can email me at

Jim Moss

Trad climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 05:16pm PT
thanks for the post, jim

Mountain climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 05:24pm PT
More answers as I work through this thread.

"Living" is mostly a term that is used to market trusts by people. The term was added before I got involved. At one point it meant it was active rather than dormant or waiting to be funded. Trusts can have many purposes: tax avoidance, long term control of money, better control of assets, etc. In this case it will be a trust to receive funds to be administered for the health, education and welfare of Tyrus.

The trust will be revocable. After a while or after the funds have diminished or been spent there is no need to keep the trust going. The trust is being set up to get Tyrus through college at present.

Donations can be mailed via Pay Pal using the email For donations of any amount, please make checks payable to: Acopa USA/ TBLT, 2328 Jeanne Drive, Las Vegas, NV, 89108. Contributions can also be made at any Well’s Fargo Bank using the account name Tyrus Bachar Living Trust located at zip code 92626

Another thing you can help us do is spread the word about how to make a donation.



Nowhere in particular...and I'm going back soon...
Jul 15, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
Fantastic, Jim.


Social climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 06:04pm PT
hey there tyrus... say, just dropped in... i think i may have already... but just a reminder:

i may not be able to give, but when i had my kids, i had tons of prayers to get us through, and we made it through the hard times... so, i have these prayers still ready to go, and they will be for your growing-up day, as well...

hugs and best wishes... and remember all these folks if you just even need a talk or a good night's share of encouragement...


Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
Jul 15, 2009 - 07:04pm PT
A love "Bump" to keep this up front!

Jul 15, 2009 - 08:50pm PT
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 15, 2009 - 09:03pm PT
I hope it's ok to post this but I wanted folks to get this info asap

From John's Dad


To All Who May Wish To Give Support To Tyrus Bachar:

Here are the details of the newly established trust fund for Tyrus.


John's close freinds and family wish to insure the health,education and well being of Tyrus Bachar.

For donations of any amount, please make checks payble to:
The Tyrus Bachar Living Trust

2328 Jeanne Drive
Las Vegas, Nv, 89108

Via Pay Pal

This email is registered with Pay Pal tostart accepting donations.


John M. Bachar, Jr.

Trad climber
Jul 15, 2009 - 09:57pm PT

Thanks for a direct appeal and purpose statement from John's dad. Exactly what's needed here. Hope to hear more from him.

JH Moss,

Of course thanks for setting up mechanics of fund. So many mundane details next to the enormity of John's death, but all important to support of Tyrus. As for spreading the word to maximize donations, hope someone with the family or one or all trust members will get notices in all relevant climbing magazines, websites, obits and the like. Speaking from a bit of experience, I know how these donations spurt at the start then dwindle without constant attention. Don't know if AAC should be approached too, but another avenue worth exploring.


Actually I've been blabbing away on Supertopo for some time. Just search for LongAgo to see more than you probably want to see! But, yes, I'm alive and well ... at the moment.

Tom Higgins
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