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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 25, 2009 - 06:56pm PT
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I hope his family sues the Oxygen Tent Corporation of America for product fraud.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2009 - 06:56pm PT
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Beat it. Beat it.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Jun 25, 2009 - 06:58pm PT
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It's unfortunate. He'd been rehearsing for his new tour, for the last couple of months. It would have been nice for him to be out doing what he loved and being more himself than he had been in a long time, before he left.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 25, 2009 - 06:59pm PT
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In other news today, the child-porn industry just filed for bankruptcy protection, pending Federal Stimulus Bailout.
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Gene
climber
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:03pm PT
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I don't know, guys. Wish I could separate the talent from what info we've been fed about the person. Eccentric is OK. What has been alledged about MJ is knott. Dude appears to have had to deal with some serious personal demons. Sorta like an old Greek tragedy.
gm
MJ changed his face as often as I change the oil in my truck.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:03pm PT
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thriller is dead.
i was too busy watching the WHo @ Isle of Wight to notice..
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2009 - 07:04pm PT
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Redwreck
Social climber
Echo Parque, Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:10pm PT
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Jackson's first words in the afterlife: "Is it hot in here, or is this a Pepsi commercial?"
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:16pm PT
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Farrah and Michael Jackson in the same day!
I'm afraid to go outside.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:21pm PT
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They are going in different directions now more than ever.
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Binks
Social climber
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:38pm PT
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What a tragic life. I really don't think he was very talented. Thriller was OK. Lots of bad stuff after that. Lots of no name musicians have heaps more talent.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:40pm PT
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Yeah Blitzo, and who went first to introduce them?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:41pm PT
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for all his wierdness, everytime i hear him sing "i'll be there" all is forgiven.
rip dude.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:43pm PT
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I'm tellin' ya, never a dud!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:46pm PT
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Jackson's life was enough to make anybody nuts.
People who study these things note that victims of abuse often become abusers. Let's hope those who have suffered problems in childhood wake up and break the cycle of pain before they pass it on.
Peace
Karl
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2009 - 07:48pm PT
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I hope we do not have a Riot?
Juan
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:53pm PT
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I wonder how busy Fluoride is right about now?
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:54pm PT
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One of the huge mistakes we all tend to make with people (wildy different and eccentric) like MJ is to judge him in terms of a "normal" person, and blame him for intentionally or consciously behaving poorly.
Actually, if you look at his suspect actions (buying the Elephant Man's bones, the crazy surgeries and sketchy relations with kids, etc.), his energy and manner, it's clear that MJ suffered, perhaps horribly, from some torment (early abuse?) and psycho-emotional virus that got progressively worse through the years as the man grew increasingly odd and isolated.
His remains a tragic story. This is not to dismiss all the Jesus Juice and creepyness - even nutters have to be held accountable - but the man simply was not right, and I suspect the load of it all killed him in the end.
But he was a genius, and stuff like Thriller is top shelf for all time.
I hope he is at peace.
JL
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Gene
climber
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Jun 25, 2009 - 07:58pm PT
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I was living in Taipei when Thriller came out. It’s hard to underestimate MJ’s worldwide appeal BITD. Riding the bus I’d see guys wearing one glove and weird suits with tight fitting pants and the whole outfit. Thriller came out when the Walkman went “must have.” That boosted sales – mostly counterfeit in Taiwan. Stores had the album blasting. You could not escape MJ. After a yacht delivery to Hong Kong, I found more of the same. Dude was everywhere. Ditto Kwangtung, & Singapore. While amusing to me, I can’t deny that most of Asia between ages 7 to 47 was all about MJ.
Messed up genius? Genius the word? Don't know. But for a while, he had the world in the palm of his gloved hand.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the end of the world as we know it, & I feel fine.
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Jun 25, 2009 - 08:03pm PT
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Jaybro and Largo... thanks for your thoughts... right on the money.
MJ definitely was suffering and having compassion for him is a good thing. That doesn't excuse his actions and behaviour, especially as an adult. He had to live with that and face that on his own (or not... it was his choice and he had to live with the consequences). Before we judge, let us first judge our own actions. I think "Dont Cry for Me Argentina" Sanford is thinking a lot about that now.
MJ did have some absolutely brilliant songs... "I'll Be There" is a wonderful piece of work.
And I'm so glad Elvis has someone to hang with now. Elvis was pretty wacked by the end too, but man, some of his stuff is just magic... especially the ballads.
Eric
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