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Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 10, 2014 - 11:25am PT
The earliest historical reference to the Gospels occurs occurred in 125CE. Their authorship remains unknown.

It seems that the Epistles of Paul, who never met Jesus, provide the historical foundations of what was to become Christianity. Paul doesn't mention the Gospels, however. Most of the tenets of Christianity - the resurrection, the divinity of Christ, etc - owe their origins to Paul's writings. Neither the writings of Jesus nor those of his fellows survive. From a historical standpoint, Paul, not Jesus, is the most influential person in history.

The church Paul created and organized was part religion, part business. Christianity provided a network of trading partners in disparate cities at a time when there were few to no other organizational frameworks available to support long distance commerce. That Christianity's teachings promoted toleration of foreigners jibed quite well with the trading aspect of the venture.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 10, 2014 - 11:52am PT
because it's based on an antiquated god concept whose interpretations lead to so much senseless violence and bloodshed.

a hundred years from now concepts, ideas or metaphors of god will have changed. In America they won't be so exclusively centered on, or monopolized by, Jehovah (aka Yahweh, aka the God of Moses aka the God of Abraham).

too bad that time isn't now.

.....

when there were few to no other organizational frameworks available

that's right.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 10, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
given that

a) America is a first world outlier in its religiosity,
b) particularly in the popularity of recently invented fundamentalist Christian sects, like the born again movement, which preach literal interpretation of the Bible, discrimination, rejection of basic science, and other teachings that go against modern scientific and social trends,
c) those very same sects have hemorrhaged over a quarter of their flock since the early 90s, and
d) other developed countries have become vastly more secular in recent years

God may well look very different than today in the American future, if He's still around at all. If Biblical Literalism survives - The Word 2.0 probably won't say much about discriminating against homosexuals or subjugating women, or a 6000 year old planet.

Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Mar 12, 2014 - 10:16pm PT
"Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullsh#t, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds."
Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 12, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
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Hankster

Social climber
Golden, CO
Mar 13, 2014 - 04:23pm PT
I think I know why.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Mar 13, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
The real question is not "why does everyone hate Christianity so much?".

The question should be why does Christianity hate everybody else so much.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:32am PT
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA

Mar 13, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
The real question is not "why does everyone hate Christianity so much?".

The question should be why does Christianity hate everybody else so much.

Thank you Captain Clueless.

Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision... why do so many of them think it's acceptable to completely abandon those principles and resort to hateful, offensive bigotry when it comes to Christians and Christianity?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 29, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision

Because that is anti-Christian.
When coming from Christians, it is hypocrisy.

And it worries people. If a Christian ignores one major precept (love), why will they not ignore all of the Commandments, if convenient?
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca

Mar 29, 2014 - 09:44am PT
Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision

Because that is anti-Christian.
When coming from Christians, it is hypocrisy.

And it worries people. If a Christian ignores one major precept (love), why will they not ignore all of the Commandments, if convenient?

Check out the big brain on Brad.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision

Why don't so many conservatives do the same?

who don't they believe the same as "liberals" on those issues?

isn't that what Christ preached?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision... why do so many of them think it's acceptable to completely abandon those principles and resort to hateful, offensive bigotry when it comes to Christians and Christianity?

Because they are hypocrites . As are all major political players. And the intolerance is not just confined to Christians but to any opposition that stands in their way.
They view Christians as representing a set of values which the western liberal establishment has targeted for demolition, much like the various factions of Marxism attempted to accomplish by outlawing religion (the opiate of the masses) as a matter of course in the old Soviet Union and Maoist China.

At the present time the representatives of this type of political thinking cannot outlaw Christianity ---so they're going to attempt to stomp it into oblivion. One cannot stomp something into oblivion and tolerate it at the same time. Hence, they've opened up a full court press on religious culture. Science is their big 7 ft. guy playing center for the team. The old Leninist/Stalinist Bolsheviks use to call him "scientific materialism"
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 29, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
Many christians are still latching onto the days when they were lion feed and love playing the victim..The truth is that some of the more vocal christians have control issues and pretend that the rest of society are their subjects..Same thinking as the Muslims that want to kill non-believers...Too bad mankind has to deal with both extremists..The barbeque would be more peaceful without these yellow jackets buzzing about...
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Apr 6, 2014 - 10:36pm PT

The Character of Christ
I now want to say a few words upon a topic which I often think is not quite sufficiently dealt with by Rationalists, and that is the question whether Christ was the best and the wisest of men. It is generally taken for granted that we should all agree that that was so. I do not myself. I think that there are a good many points upon which I agree with Christ a great deal more than the professing Christians do. I do not know that I could go with Him all the way, but I could go with Him much further than most professing Christians can. You will remember that He said, "Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." That is not a new precept or a new principle. It was used by Lao-tse and Buddha some 500 or 600 years before Christ, but it is not a principle which as a matter of fact Christians accept. I have no doubt that the present prime minister [Stanley Baldwin], for instance, is a most sincere Christian, but I should not advise any of you to go and smite him on one cheek. I think you might find that he thought this text was intended in a figurative sense.

Then there is another point which I consider excellent. You will remember that Christ said, "Judge not lest ye be judged." That principle I do not think you would find was popular in the law courts of Christian countries. I have known in my time quite a number of judges who were very earnest Christians, and none of them felt that they were acting contrary to Christian principles in what they did. Then Christ says, "Give to him that asketh of thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away." That is a very good principle. Your Chairman has reminded you that we are not here to talk politics, but I cannot help observing that the last general election was fought on the question of how desirable it was to turn away from him that would borrow of thee, so that one must assume that the Liberals and Conservatives of this country are composed of people who do not agree with the teaching of Christ, because they certainly did very emphatically turn away on that occasion.

Then there is one other maxim of Christ which I think has a great deal in it, but I do not find that it is very popular among some of our Christian friends. He says, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor." That is a very excellent maxim, but, as I say, it is not much practised. All these, I think, are good maxims, although they are a little difficult to live up to. I do not profess to live up to them myself; but then, after all, it is not quite the same thing as for a Christian.

from
Why I Am Not A Christian
by Bertrand Russell
TWP

Trad climber
Mancos, CO
Apr 6, 2014 - 10:46pm PT
"Because of the way Christians behave."

Gandhi was once asked by a Christian, "What religion has the best philosophy?"

"Christianity," he said.

The Christian then asked, "Why then aren't' you a Christian?"

"Because I've seen how Christians behave," Mahatma explained.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Apr 7, 2014 - 05:24pm PT
Italian prosecutors on Friday said two former top executives at the Vatican bank will go on trial for money laundering, while the bank's ex-chairman was declared innocent.

http://www.thelocal.it/20140329/ex-vatican-bank-chiefs-face-money-laundering-trial
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Apr 7, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
Great quote about an innocent man?

the bank's ex-chairman was declared innocent.

let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Malemute's link is irrelevant to actual religion and is about crooked bankers. Even other Chistians hate the Vatican.

You can find links like that for any organization.

Pick a religion. I'll find a link.

Here's a start.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/06/buddhist-monks-having-a-louis-vuitton-scandal.html


http://thebea.st/1cy7HFA

http://iwpr.net/report-news/kyrgyzstans-top-muslim-cleric-unseated-sex-scandal

I'll bet I can find one on the Amish...hell, there's a tv show on them.
TYeary

Social climber
State of decay
Apr 7, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
“Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence what so ever.”
― Sam Harris

Religion belongs in the dark ages, the infancy of man.
TY
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Apr 7, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
Religion belongs in the dark ages, the infancy of man.

We are all grown up now? Really?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Apr 7, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
Even other Chistians hate the Vatican.

I see your problem, right there in that sentence.

And its true, there's the rub!!!!

;D

All too true.

DMT
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