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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Aug 11, 2013 - 05:56pm PT
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Why does everyone hate Christianity so much?
Because of generalization. Meeting one and assuming all others are the same.
So you meet a bad one and there goes the whole tribe.
Moral: Differentiate
Also - Never believe what you read about groups in the media. They only make money if the news is bad, alarming or a freak show. Truth is optional.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
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Yes it's a generalization, but you meet a lot of people who label themselves that way, that um aren't really the kind of people you want to deal with in a limited mammalian lifespan let alone, even worse, an afterlife!
Much of the concept kicks ass however.
Have you ever met someone who labels themselves "Christian" who isn't needy and manipulative?
I have, and hats off to those exceptions!!
But in general, the label of "Christian" means they have a lot farther route to go to prove themselves than, those that say something more open minded like, say, "undecided"
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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The 'born again' Christians I know tend to be very pushy about their beliefs.
I don't like preachy, pushy people.
That said, my old boss in Truckee is a Christian and I've spent a few Sunday mornings at church with him, his daughter, and wife. It was fun. Everyone was super nice, but I got the feeling that they were just trying to indoctrinate me into their club.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
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Well Brandon if the daughter is hot it may be worth putting up with the dogma. This is a joke.[/burninginhellchashingdaughters]
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
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His daughter was six at the time, I'm not a pedophile.
I was just good friends with the family.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
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I've been told by an informed Orange County minister that it's because we are all jealous of the Popes robe.
& I ( you ) have to admit that it is a mighty fine robe.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
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I like the Popes hat.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
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All in all my sisters are full on christian conservatives and while we have different opinions on politics our thoughts on environmentalism, organic food, and climate change are spot on.
Weird stuff to be so dissimilar on politics and religion yet so inline with everything else, family is strange that way.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
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Ani't that the truth.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 11, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
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I think everyone hates christianity because some christians demand constant recognition and affirmation that they are beter than other christians and certainly more so than the non-believers..I think of the Pharasees...It's like a competition for some with their ego being the ultimate motivation rather than just being nice to other humans...A friend hit the nail on the head when he said that some of the christians he knows are pretty uptight and mean spirited...Christianity is a good thing but some of it's practioners aren't..
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jstan
climber
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Aug 11, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
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Dingus suggested christians were doing nothing objectionable. The ACLU has an answer better than the one I gave.
"We wish to be allowed to make our own moral judgments."
Certain organizations wish to impose new restrictions upon us based upon their moral judgments.
This is a restriction of the rights of other citizens.
In many cases those asking for this increase in the powers given to government are, at the same time, complaining that government should be gotten out of our lives.
A shortfall in mental capability appears to be at work.
In old people this is called "diminished capacity".
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 11, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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Since christians believe tales without evidence, they are not critical thinkers,
I guess you'd lump Augustine, Galileo, (read his letters to his daughter some time)Rene Descartes, Newton, Webster, and on infinitum into that pot.
Western civilization and it's intellectual processes is the result of Christianity, no trivializing or escaping that.
Those that do so are the intellectuality dishonest equivalent of the creationist that insists that we are not really also primates.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 11, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
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because of statements like this....
Western civilization and it's intellectual processes is the result of Christianity, no trivializing or escaping that.
edit: suppose it depends on your definition of 'civilization.'
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 11, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
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Didn't Muslims pioneer mathematics BITD?
Answer; Yes.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 11, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
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Nope, appropriated most of the concepts from the Greeks,
they did invent Al-gebra.
What contributions have they made in the last 600 years or so?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 11, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
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Kindness, culture, to name two things.
Radicals exist in all societies, we shouldn't judge people on their lowest common denominator.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 11, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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It comes down to culture, (race has nothing to do with it)
Culture is driven by religion.
One tradition (Judeo, Christian)has produced more equality, productivity, higher standards of living and greater individual freedom than any other.
Results matter.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 11, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
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The Christian culture is a violent one.
Who are we to judge?
Myself? I'm agnostic. I try to see the world through an impartial lens.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Aug 11, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
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they did invent Al-gebra
 Along with what in the west is called the Western Aribic (also Eastern Aribic) numerical systems…
The Hookah or Water Pipe…
The Guitar….
Coffee….
Many of today's common acids…
Here, don't believe me…. Watch Neil DeGrasse Tyson talk about the achievements of the Arib
[Click to View YouTube Video]
What contributions have they made in the last 600 years or so?
I think the answer to this is in direct relation to the last few sentences of Tyson's statements…. Religion got in the way and effectively stopped the progression of the advances made during that 300 year period Tyson initiates the video with….
So… Science Good for all human kind
Religion bad for human kind….
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Aug 11, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
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Western civilization and it's intellectual processes is the result of Christianity, no trivializing or escaping that.
I have to agree with this.
After building up a disdain for Christianity I felt I was falling prey to prejudice. So I took up a Children's NIV Bible and read through the Old Testament and some of the New. (Need to finish.)
--First of all I wanted to understand something before hating on it. (Now I don't.)
--It is a fascinating historical/archeological artifact.
--If you like Sci-fi it is a classic.
--And lastly, our Western Civilization from the Urals west to the shores of Asia was built around it as a paradigm. Even modern secular scientific thinking owes it's history to it. (eg. Darwin was a devout Christian.)
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