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divad
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wmass
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Jeez, we get to hear Lois puffing up Palin for 4 years.
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Jim E
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"I say she will be the new leader of the party."
Nothing would please me more.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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"Palin 2012" has a nice ring - if you're a Democrat. The knives will certainly be out in the Republican party, as the power that's held an uneasy coalition together is lost. They're going to have a long road to rebuilding, and it wouldn't be surprising if, instead of learning from what's happened, they revert to the pure gospel of Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Rove. I agree with JPT, though - if there's a future for the Republicans in anything like their present form, it will be with much less influence from the religious right and bloody-minded nativists, of the Palin variety.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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lowest CONTINUES to show her telephone booth of global understanding.
palin dragged the GOP ticket DOWN
america HATES a loser, especially in politics
palin was exposed as unprepared, inexperienced, unworldly, shallow, superficial, hypocritical, and most importantly, unappealing to anyone but the base, the right wing of the right wing. young people didn't like her, women didn't like her, moderates didn't like her, undecideds didn't like her, and she became a laughing stock on late night tv (the kiss of death in our culture).
even the wingnuts are blaming her for the loss, or at least blaming mclame for choosing her, and blaming that choice for his loss.
wait til the GOP campaign audits tell the true story of her shopping sprees!
(see newsweek)
she's done
and yer dumb
(not that either is a revelation)
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Hope Steve Schmidt (McCain's campaign mgr) can get an honest job now. We could use him sealing up leaky ductwork under mobile homes up here in the NW. Or maybe he can get something at the carwash. Good riddance.
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jstan
climber
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From what I saw in the campaign Palin is unable to reevaluate her positions as situations change while at the same time holding to underlying truth. Those positions are simple permanent implants. She has not identified any underlying truths. This is the classic symptom for the formation of extreme splinter parties. Their only danger is that they may, through some accident, gain actual power.
Our task is simply that of making sure that power is never gained.
The party that we will have to live with is the new Republican Party composed of the conservatives who work hard to repair the damage we have sustained. The President will need and will value their contribution, as must we all.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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the republican party will return as a more libertarian version of itself-
a reasonable strategy for the opposition party, which is what the GOP will be for some time after 2008.
the evangelical wing of the GOP will struggle to maintain it's relevance, especially as the progressive evangelicals become more politically organized and recognized (the right has officially lost the automatic non-bible-belt religious vote, or don't you hear the inspirational oratory tradition of the baptist preacher in the many captivating speeches by our guy?).
in the reagan years, the bible thumpers were coddled in the convention and then largely ignored. their rise to political prominence was a result of rovian hate-based get-out-the-vote strategies. the problem with those approaches is that they die out as the older voters die off, and the new younger voters are, at least as of 2008, overwhelmingly progressive.
one more thing-
in 8 yrs, nobody will want to hump palin either, so she'll be like hillary, except that women won't like her, and she won't make valid points (i.e. she'll still be stuck on talking points), nor will she have a life-long history of service to her country...
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preemptively, to all of you who will argue that the GOP will bounce back in 2010-
what has not yet been recognized by the right is that obama will be our regan. he is a great communicator, and that one characteristic in itself simply cannot be underestimated.
how do you run against that with hate and anger?
the people will see right through you.
(again)
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jstan
climber
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Dang it Matt. I wish you would get right to the point and not talk in circles.
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Redwreck
Social climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oh man, GOP, please, please, PLEASE make Palin your candidate in 2012.
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sling512
Trad climber
Chicago
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I was down at the Obama rally/event/celebration in Grant Park last night. It was a scene to behold that's for sure. People in the trees, people dancing, crying, (looking for the snipers on the roof tops). Something about being with a few hundred thousand people in one spot with one hope and dream and reality really made it hit home!
-sling
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kelly slater
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yeah, everybody voted for more government. How great it's going to be.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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yo locker-
if you close that deal, i'll give you my vote!
edit-
yes i know she's married, she's younger than you, she lives in AK, she has 5 kids, she's now a(n) (in)famous celeb, but com-on man, she's A MAVERICK!
...so she just might let you hit it- you never know WHAT a maverick like her will do!
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