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shenoa
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Marina, CA
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Every time I see that ad, I click it. I strongly support gay rights, and understand that ST doesn't control the ads Google displays. It's a win/win situation because ST gets revenue from it, and the Prop 8 campaign has to pay.
Come on, click with me...you know you want to.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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6:15 how is this vote to retain freedom doing?
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apogee
climber
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I think it's too early to tell- polls are still open in CA- until 8 pm. I heard a report from one CA district at about 3 pm saying it was passing, but that is so early it is completely unreliable.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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This isn't looking good....
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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"It's winning, 55-45 with 11 percent in. "
Apparently there are still more "homos" than sane people in Cali. Ugh! I see it being challenged and the vote overturned, regardless, as it violates people's civil rights. Eventually, people will get the inherent rights they deserve and we'll be left paying the bill for a bunch of religious fanatic's tantrum.
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apogee
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Currently Yes on Prop 8 holds a lead, but most of the more liberal areas of the state (SF, Santa Cruz, most of LA, others) have not been counted in- only 20% of the ballots have been counted thusfar. It ain't over yet, folks.
Edit as of 10:20: the 300,000 vote lead has shrunk to 175,000 with most of LA county and a number of other coastal areas still to be counted.
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apogee
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Yes on 8 has moved up 200K votes, but still too early to say for sure. Still lots of key districts to be counted, and none of the provisional ballots have been counted. It ain't over till it's over, folks.
11:30 Edit: 39% precincts reporting, 52% Yes.
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paganmonkeyboy
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mars...it's near nevada...
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score one for hatred and bigotry !
Jesus would be Soooo F*#king Proud...he was All About The Hate...
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Gavin Newsom put this one over the top.
If he could have controlled his mouth, for just a few seconds, the Yes On 8 guys wouldn't have had that obnoxious "you're going to like it or not" sound-bite they ran over and over and this probably wouldn't have passed.
Now, Newsom gets to explain to all his gay pals they aren't married anymore because he didn't have the self-control required to keep his mouth shut.
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Degaine
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Bluering wrote : “Marriage has always referred to a man and a woman making a commitment to each other. It also discriminates against other types of 'unions'.”
Always? Up until not too long ago for the very Mormons who helped to support Prop 8 marriage was between a man and many women.
Most people of Indian (India) descent that I know have parents (born in the US) who had an arranged marriage. For some arranged marriage is still the norm. Ditto for Orthodox Jewry.
What always, then, are you talking about?
Chaz wrote: “ Now, Newsom gets to explain to all his gay pals they aren't married anymore because he didn't have the self-control required to keep his mouth shut.”
It’s my understanding that the proposition is not retroactive, that all those who are already married are still legally married.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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And gays can still get married, just The State Of California won't recognize them.
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apogee
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While it's not looking good for No on 8 supporters, this proposition has still not been decided- the count is way too close. It's probably going to require counting lots of provisonal ballots in order to come to a clear decision. Stay tuned.
Good to hear that some of the other social agenda (defining start of life- CO) propositions in California & other states did not pass.
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salad
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Escondido
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i think the high black turnout hurt no on 8. i heard (but havent seen) that the black vote was 70-30 for 8.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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So the only way Prop 8 would have been defeated is if blacks' votes only counted 3/5 ?
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Marriage has always referred to a man and a woman making a commitment to each other. It also discriminates against other types of 'unions'. 
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