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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2008 - 11:53pm PT
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Oh, how ignorant some of you people are.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Oct 16, 2008 - 11:54pm PT
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Why SHOULD The Government decide who can and who cannot be married?
Why should The Government care?
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dirtbag
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Oct 16, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
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Chaz, I'm not arguing that point with you. I AGREE.
BUT: the fact is, Prop 8 would do exactly that!
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WBraun
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Oct 16, 2008 - 11:56pm PT
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"Why should The Government care?"
Because the government is you.
Not my idea, but that's how I see it.
Oh ...! and edit. That thing about how they treat animals:
"As long as there are slaughter houses, there will be battle fields" -- Leo Tolstoy
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andanother
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:01am PT
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"Why should I explain myself to an anonymous internet dork? You mean NOTHING to me."
Well, you've responded to me twice now. And you seem to be getting a little worked up, calling me names and such. So I think I mean a little more to you than you care to admit.
Also, a few others have asked for an explanation as well. So, just tell yourself you are responding to THEM and not me.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:01am PT
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I can't tell my neighbor it's OK or not for him to marry whomever he pleases.
Why should I be able to just because I get The Government to go along with me?
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:02am PT
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It's nice of Jody to bunch them all together in one thread, rather than a thread for each proposition!
Thanks for that!
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dirtbag
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:04am PT
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"I can't tell my neighbor it's OK or not for him to marry whomever he pleases.
Why should I be able to just because I get The Government to go along with me?"
Agreed again Chaz. So vote no on 8, which would preclude some people from getting married.
I understand you don't like state sanctioned marraiges, but if it exists it should at least be a hate-free institution open to all.
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WBraun
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:07am PT
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Don't slaughter animals, please.
You don't need to eat them.
You don't eat your children?
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Latitute 33
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:10am PT
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About what I'd expect Jody. Stick to taking beautiful photos. We can agree on that.
The same tired arguments against gay marriage were used to justify bans on inter-racial marriage within my lifetime. Denying civil rights to any group is about as UnAmerican as it gets.
With Liberty and Justice For All should not just be a nice sentiment.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:11am PT
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Mr Moosie writes:
"It matters how animals are raised, even if they are going to slaughter."
Do they taste any different?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 17, 2008 - 12:54am PT
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"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.
Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?'
And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'"
(Matthew 25.35-40 ESV)
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lunchbox
Trad climber
santa cruz, ca
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:51am PT
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"It matters how animals are raised, even if they are going to slaughter."
"Do they taste any different?"
Maybe, maybe not, but consider this. Poor quality meats and veggies are cheaper aren't they? Why is this? Calories are calories, but the nutritional contents vary greatly from organic to factory farmed products. Wine makers figured this out centuries ago, it's in the soil.
If solitary confinement and stress positions have taught us anything, it drives people to the brink of insanity and beyond. And people want to eat animals subjected to the same kind of treatment? It blows my mind.
The western diet has failed us!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Oct 17, 2008 - 03:28am PT
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"Why should I explain myself to an anonymous internet dork? You mean NOTHING to me."
Yeah I mean what kind of total geektard would actually think to COMMENT on a public forum when someone specifically posts their voting record in a brand new thread and then solicits comments?
I mean what kind of lifeless jackass are you?
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atchafalaya
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Babylon
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:52pm PT
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You would have to be a real lowlife piece of sh#t to vote no on 2.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:56pm PT
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Sorry the guy was attacked but that "article" is shitpropaganda from a shitsource.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 17, 2008 - 02:58pm PT
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And yes, Prop 8 supporters are supporting hate.
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nature
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Santa Fe, NM
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Oct 17, 2008 - 03:05pm PT
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Ha ha... the funny thing is that the polls for the one's I looked at suggest that Jody is voting opposite of what will come to pass.
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