labrat
Trad climber
Nevada City, CA
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Jan 25, 2013 - 02:12am PT
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It is made up.......... IMHO
Erik
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Jan 25, 2013 - 02:44am PT
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Bruce, don't even bother asking anymore. All you're gonna get from him is suggestions to come and see for yourself, drink the kool aid.
Brainwashed, blinded, sheep herding cult.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 25, 2013 - 07:32am PT
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You guys posting you snide comments. You are so clever. You are the brainwashed. Those aren’t even your original thoughts. You saw those comments in some magazine somewhere once. I bet you don’t even lead hard trad. Whimps!
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 25, 2013 - 07:32am PT
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Bruce, Ah… the 1970s. There is a story there.
In mid ’77 the FBI raided Scientology in Los Angeles & Washington DC. Biggest government raid on a Church ever. I was not there. There is a Supertopo member who lurks here who was right in the thick of it. I’ll never “out” them, but maybe that person will come forward some day.
I think it was almost 300 agents. Came in tore the place a part and seized our papers. Yes we had a lot of paper then. Dangerous paper.
The end result was 6 executives, and I think the founder’s wife, had to do hard time for 3 months in the federal pen. It was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they had been using government photocopy machines without permission. This was back when they had just been invented so photocopies were costly.
The government had been after us for decades and we were gathering data for lawsuits to get them to stop it. Since then, all has been resolved. The government let’s us be and many government officials are grateful to us for the help we give them. For the last 24 years or so we have been at peace with the US Gov.
The German government still hates us though.
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Jan 25, 2013 - 07:50am PT
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illegal use of photo copiers? Hell I've done that probably. What sort of use of a photo copier would result in prosecution and jail terms?
Good to know that you guys straightened up. The Mormons did that when the writing was on the wall and it worked out well for them too. It is always wiser to work with the system if you wish to survive. Just ask the Hells Angels or those guys at Waco. I understand, for instance that Scientology isn't shy to use litigation to shut people up. So you know all those incriminating books and documentaries that are circulating out there - why dosn't your church destroy them in court? I mean that is really slanderous stuff. Predatory financial practices and blatant human rights violations. That is really making you guys look like as#@&%es or worse but like Lance Armstrong when confronted with "a heavy weight" you seem rather reluctant to do the honorable thing and clear your name in court.
How do you explain that?
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Jolly Roger
Trad climber
here and there
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Jan 25, 2013 - 08:02am PT
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Yes, I have dust mites from space all over me, currupting my life.
Spider,
It is hard for one to see when they are in fact involved in something that is not right.
If these teachings are so important, and the path to salvation through enlitement and becoming you. where you find peace.
Then why is the head of your operations such an as#@&%e. I personally would never get involved in any group, where the leader is an evil, greedy, vendictive son of a bitch, who inflicts pain on others. Has them confess their evil thoughts about himself, and then beat and imprison them for it. Sounds like a stand up dude to me.
Sure makes me want to go out and convince young people to join.
It's a pyramid scheme. you know it to, but you are too vested to look at your belief structre. It would mean you have been part of a lie, and noone wants to admit that.
I feel bad for all these young people, getting trapped in it's grasp.
There are plenty of converts out there, telling the truth about the inner workings. Hard to dismiss such information.
Get out while you can.
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:15am PT
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I still think Spider is TROLLING...
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:18am PT
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Thanks for the link to the interview, just listened to it. Very Interesting.
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toadgas
Social climber
los angeles
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:24am PT
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The German government still hates us though
yes, I believe Scientology hired Bill Clinton (President Bill Clinton) to lobby the German govt on behalf of Scientology, no?
some Democrats here may want to re-think their beloved ex-President
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Dave Kos
Social climber
Temecula
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:26am PT
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BILL CLINTON READ DIANETICS THREE TIMES THATS WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE REPUBLICAN HATE GAYS AND FORCE ALL SCHOOLCHILDREN TO PRAY TO JESUS EVERY MORNING!!!!
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:28am PT
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"some Democrats here may want to re-think their beloved ex-President"...
Dude got "HEAD" in the fuking Oval office...
He's reached HERO status in my book...
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toadgas
Social climber
los angeles
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:32am PT
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THATS WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE REPUBLICAN HATE GAYS
kos, if you wanna vote repub and hate homosexuals, well, I can't stop you from doing that
...but it appears that Bill Clinton probably took loads of dirty $$$$ from a criminal cult that suppresses free speech and operates its own miniature Gitmo!!!!
hehe
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:36am PT
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"but it appears that Bill Clinton probably took loads"...
Don't you mean, Monica???...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jan 25, 2013 - 09:42am PT
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you pimp-ass monks will never have the coin to find out about this stuff in the first place, so why bother to even worry about it?
ha ha ha, suffer on with yo broke azz!
hide the money y'all, theirs po folks in the house,
these folks get all excited about finding a free biner, so how the heck are they gonna make it thru life repair?
scirntology is about good people getting better,
no losers allowed.
we don't want you contaminating our space,
(just trying to stimulate rude conversation to keep this thread at the top and the advertising revenue coming in,)
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Dave Kos
Social climber
Temecula
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Jan 25, 2013 - 10:01am PT
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but it appears
SOLID!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jan 25, 2013 - 10:03am PT
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mod squad?
here is the order of operations:
1. get teeth fixed
2. get scientology
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Jan 25, 2013 - 10:15am PT
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Good teeth are essential to maintaining a psychic connection with Xenu . . .
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jan 25, 2013 - 10:23am PT
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but your problem is mental, not dental,
just like david lee roth,
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Forrest B.
Trad climber
Appalacia
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Jan 25, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
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How the hell did this cult achieve religion status. What other religion charges for goods and services?
Just a quick google search explains soo much. So many people ripped off.
Secret meetings by managers, discussing which members have the most money and deciding who they should target.
WTF
Any tacos involved should leave asap.
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