"Yosemite Facelift" "Dirty Job" or not.

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Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 8, 2008 - 11:29pm PT
Through much persuasion from others, I suggested the Facelift as a potential for one of their programs. They are threatening to close down the series because of a lack of projects.I am not sure it fits with their mission though it is close. What do you think?

Ken
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 8, 2008 - 11:46pm PT
No, not really a dirty job considering the locale, but you could put him on some of the harder garbage extractions...cleaning up the Nose or some other El Cap route with a guide leading him up it.

That may work. Which route has the most crap on it? You could even have people intentionally leave crap-bags up there for him...to make it 'dramatic'.
Slakkey

Trad climber
From a Quiet Place by the Lake
Jul 8, 2008 - 11:52pm PT
The Program is a bit overkill. but, it could very well bring attention to a good cause. From what I have seen. it could well be a mock situation that is set up for the proogram but, like I said it coud be a positive way to get the word out.
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:05am PT
Chicken - No way. I've seen some pretty crazy stuff on that show when I was able to catch it.

The Facelift is just a big clean up get together... With beer!
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Yonder
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:07am PT
I don't know, dude...Camp 6 is a nasty crack....
jstan

climber
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:41am PT
Ken:
I must be missing a post at the top. Who is "they" and what are we talking about? The NPS is threatening to close down Facelift? Eh?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:45am PT
jstan, THANKS for asking, I don't have a clue either.What is this post about? But then we blonde's need a little help now and then. jstan, are you blond?

smiles from Lynne (but serious about what)?
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:45am PT
Dirty Job is apparently "a program on the Discovery Channel in which host Mike Rowe is shown performing difficult, strange, and/or messy occupational duties alongside professional workers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Jobs

http://dsc.discovery.com/ads/ad_interstitial_fill9.html?dest=http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/dirtyjobs/dirtyjobs.html

Not being a television watcher, I had been managing without this knowledge.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:49am PT
I like the show, but don't like the idea of portraying climbing and climbers as leaving their crap all over the place. Media amplifies, and draws inappropriate attention to something we already work hard at mitigating.

However, maybe, if the asphalt is still there from the NPS efforts that were pointed out in one of the old climbing vids, maybe that would be worth something.

Sincerely,
Crotchety Old Man
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 9, 2008 - 12:54am PT
oh yeah, I didn't read the other posts too closely, but the amount of literal sh#t that we picked up, on TP, in baby diapers, and garbage dumped off the side of the road.

I used the rubber gloves that were handed out.. and I'm not usually squeamish about such things, but I'm not into disease, either...

now is it compelling, charismatic TV? probably could be.... considering what shows up on TV these days...


Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:07am PT
Or, Ed, how they "spin" it.....note jello.

Lynne
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:08am PT
Munge makes a good point, at least in terms of sending the sorry bastard up the Captain, it would only amplify how much crap some climbers leave behind.

Maybe having him haul some heavy, awkward sh#t thrown by tourists would be better? Maybe some diapers, as Ed pointed out too.

Ken, the more I think about it, the worse it sounds. The Facelift gives the park it's due without all the 'drama' of a tv show.

Maybe Yosemite NP could use less attention for a while.

It is an interesting show though.
jstan

climber
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:09am PT
Oh.
Having never seen one of their shows I have no idea. Surely they have had a show on graffiti removal?

If we have a project for cleaning up a route I would suggest not involving TV. I still like the idea of putting a 500 gallon tank of water at the top and dropping 2000' of hose. Almost 900 PSI. Packing the water to the top would be a grunt. Take about 100 people to fill the tank once. Actually don't even need the tank. Just need the hose and some help from YOSAR.

Lynne:
Soon as I find a hair I will let you know.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:14am PT
Ken, you're the one who could find a nasty job for him, you're more familiar with what needs to be done.
Pennsylenvy

Gym climber
Fannie's Crack, AZ
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:20am PT
Lots of folks pick up trash. That said, I found a special protocol for finding lot's of T.P. out there. Go to a tourist trail and then look for a desperate place. Climb over a bunch of logs and rocks etc... and then voila : T.P. As Ed stated I was surprised how much of the job was indeed dirty. Dirty? Yes. Exciting? I doubt it. Someone could think of some silly drama I'm sure. Good Luck.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:27am PT
The news media might make hay (good or bad) following around a FaceLift crew that included three Ph.D.s, and eight or nine degrees among five people.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:31am PT
Great Idea Ken, they were on the Palm Springs Tram on a recent episode. Kids love that show and it is a great opportunity to teach by example. Go for it.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Jul 9, 2008 - 01:35am PT
jstan, I'll help you find it and dye it!!!!!!!Seriously, I think ST is having a serious downspin. Everyone is so serious and dialed. When I first connected a few months ago there were so many laughs and funny threads ....am I hallucinating? Correct me if so. Lynners
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2008 - 02:20am PT
You all have a guilty conscience. It is all about us and others coming together and cleaning up what isn't ours.

Ken
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 9, 2008 - 02:28am PT
Ken, try and get them to do it, I'm just sayin' if they don't...no big loss. Ya know?
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