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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 21, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
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You need to post a picture with a Stopper of known size nearby for comparison.
Several generations of flat-sided Chouinard Stoppers to consider before they switched to the curved shape.
Stoppers #1-#4 on an open wire and #5- #8 slung in the early seventies. 8 sizes.
Tom Frost photo of Yvon Chouinard wearing his wares.
Stoppers #1- #8 1/2 available on a wire and #4 -#8 1/2 available slung. 16 sizes.
Stoppers #1-#13 available wired some sizes slung. 13 sizes.
SM- Yours is a #7 from the 13 size range set. The last two shots are from the 1978 Great Pacific Ironworks catalog.
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SavageMarmot
Trad climber
Nederland, CO
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Apr 21, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Here's a next gen #10 stopper for reference.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 21, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
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#11 Stopper
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 21, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
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It looks on closer inspection that you have a older style #7 with undersize cord. Perfect fingerlock size if you have big paws.
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SavageMarmot
Trad climber
Nederland, CO
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Apr 21, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
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My gut says you nailed it. When were these made?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 21, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
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If it's a 1972 first gen stopper and is a #7 it will measure 3/4" by 1-1/4" long
A bit later the #11 is 7/8" which comes up closer to your dimension.
Is your dimension across the narrow aspect or the wide side?
Stopper dimensions were published measured on the narrower of the two widths in the 72 catalog.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Apr 21, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
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You guys are just saying it a a #7 Stopper cause that's what it says on it. LOL
At least that's what I see. ps, nice post Steve G!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 21, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
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OK you've forced me to go open the junk drawer and get the dial calipers out.
2 samples of #7s 0.84 and 0.85
So the catalog dimensions of 0.75 aren't correct.
Here's another mystery.
I have a #8 that's 1.18 and has the oval hollow extrusion.
This one isn't in the 72 catalog, but I'm sure it was purchased around then.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Apr 22, 2013 - 02:27am PT
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Stephane- Did that come from a European source or North America? Steve- I am sorry, I am not sure of the origin of this little nut. Maybe it was found somewhere in North America. It has a rather similar shape as an old Chouinard Stopper, but it is mounted on a thinner wire.
And... as you mention the Abalakov cam, I am very proud to show you the full set of Grivel Bikov. It took me a long long time to complete the set...
Rick A- Thank you for sharing the fascinating story of the Banana Nut.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Apr 22, 2013 - 03:25am PT
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I agree with TGT. The Chouinard stopper in question looks like a first generation #7. Of course, the numbering has changed over the years and I have no clue what it translates into today's versions.
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tansofun
climber
Long Beach, CA
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Apr 23, 2013 - 06:52am PT
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Wired variation on the theme of an Abalakov cam made from a pulley wheel and not likely a commercial release.
Thanks Steve! Learning more about old gear every day.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 25, 2013 - 12:16am PT
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Just for fun some Abalakov-style flywheel cams brought back from a Russian exchange expedition by Chuck Kroger and now in the YCA collection.
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Roots
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Tansofun (my friend) was over in Nepal and bought some souvenirs for us like the one he posted above.
My box of fun just arrived - only took 2 months to get here due a stop by Home Land Security. Here is one item. The Sherpa told him it was an old ice screw.....what do you think it was used for? - Maybe anchoring ladders?
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
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ok so the pictures I posted above didn't interest anyone LOL - it looks much nicer now all cleaned up, but how about this cam? What is known about them?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
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Abalakov (also from a set of 4) obtained during the same surreptitious negotiations as Kroger's.
Still in use...
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 08:29am PT
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....made by Camp. Anyone know anything about them?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 09:08am PT
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....made by Camp. Anyone know anything about them?
They should have been made by 'Bunk'.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 03:16pm PT
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^LOL that do seem sketchy! I guess that's why these are unused?
Well just curious if anyone knows what they are called, circa?
Thanks!
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ClimbingOn
Trad climber
NY
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I recently got this gear sling with a lot of vintage gear I purchased. It looks homemade but the sewing looks professional. No identifying marks on it. Looks like a very early example of a multi-loop gear sling. I believe each "loop" was used for racking pitons. Anyone seen anything like this before?
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