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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 14, 2016 - 01:11pm PT
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Prefer it as is. Trolling is way more fun than talking about climbing. We all get plenty of that on the weekends.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 14, 2016 - 01:41pm PT
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"Perhaps all those nasty arguments are the adrenaline-stimulating mechanism left to climbers who aren't getting that fix from climbing any more."
NO, don't agree. They are whiners, plain and simple, who are annoying as f*#k. If they are not "right," they cannot play well with the others.
Other than that, nice reasoning, acute observations, and very close to if not spot on the mark about older climbers, as one would expect from Our Gold.
Civility is easy.
But not everyone finds it so.
This is a stumbling block in communication, and so some allowances must be made. How far to extend courtesy to a boor is hard to judge. Firm moderation is not what's happening here, and I appreciate CMac's laissez-faire policy, for one.
Banning is a result, but those banned ask for it in some way.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Oct 14, 2016 - 01:58pm PT
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I vote for a separate page for political posts. When folks like donnini bail, we need to look at the paradigm.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 14, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
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I vote for a separate page for political posts. When folks like donnini bail, we need to look at the paradigm.
we've tried that for years, and you can see out that worked out.
edit: thanks for the kind words, jody.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Oct 14, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
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we've tried that for years, and you can see out that worked out
When was that?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 14, 2016 - 02:34pm PT
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Jody actually aimed those comments at me, 10b. I deleted my posts...he seems to feel his are critical enough to stay in place.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 14, 2016 - 02:38pm PT
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When was that?
it's been an on and off topic, especially when things are slow in the wintertime, for the past fifteen years.
edit: apogee, somehow I think jody thinks I am a moron also.
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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Oct 14, 2016 - 02:42pm PT
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Hey, it's the Taco. This is the brand, too late to change it now.
If you don't want to read the stuff, don't click on it. The rest of us like a little chuckle every now and then, and we know who the Trolls are anyway.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Oct 14, 2016 - 02:49pm PT
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Personally, I like the Wild West format. Makes things more interesting.
That being said, everyone should understand that personal attacks are verboten in excess, and that villagers pushing the envelope will be shot, or put in the penalty box for a while.
What I find the most tiresome is people posting endless variations of the same topic. Feel free to cull that herd and there will be more real estate for climbing and outdoor content.
My $.02
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Oct 14, 2016 - 03:03pm PT
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Topic: I went climbing
Post: but, I kept thinking about the election
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Oct 14, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
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And to stay clear of the rabbit hole climbing threads must not pertain to:
style
Ratings
Grades
Bolt placement
Rock quality
Access
Raptors
Ah fuk it!
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Rattlesnake Arch
Social climber
Home is where we park it
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Oct 14, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
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Part of this has to do with the participants having tired of their own wisdom, or at least in sharing it, preferring, as might be expected of climbers, to venture into realms where relative ignorance provides a greater sense of adventure.
One of the most profound comments I've read on this site. In fact the whole post is a gem. Thank you rgold.
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:23pm PT
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Thanks Chris. Supertopo is for climbing and climbing related issues. Get rid of the songs, political BS, and off topic rants. Thanks again for cleaning things up.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:31pm PT
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we've tried that for years, and you can see out that worked out.
Yeah, I know. Just thought I'd give it another shot.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 14, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
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Free speech and self moderating are preferable.
Occasionally someone will become truly offensive. Let the offended complain. Let the site owner (Chris at this point) have a look at the claimed offenses then warn the offender if appropriate.
Give the offender a small number of chances to clean up.
Block the offender as a last resort.
I believe this is the way SuperTopo has been moderated until now.
Suits me.
I've had several people deliberately offend me and I've got a thick skin. No worries.
I grew tired of the general unpleasantness from said persons to others as well and stayed away for a few months except for the trip reports and gear reviews. Those people are now gone.
There are plenty of excellent climbing threads if the BS is bugging you.
No worries here.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Oct 14, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
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+1, Pork-Barrel Politics on SuperTopo!
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Oct 14, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
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We've got enough polls - let's have a thread to discuss it instead :-)
Yes, definitely ban political threads if you feel it's infecting the climbing threads or your bottom line or your own enjoyment/pride in your site.
For me, yea the site wouldn't hold as much interest for me if it was all climbing. If that's a good thing, ban it, if not, maybe don't.
But I think you were asking about ranting? Yea, that's a lot of work to ban - maybe censoring work that you're already doing, but doing at a much lighter level? Kind of hard to separate the political threads themselves from the ranting ...
Also, what DMT said.
Best to you!
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Oct 14, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
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The answer to your question IMO is "Yes"
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Carson City, NV
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Oct 14, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
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If you don't want to read the stuff, don't click on it. The rest of us like a little chuckle every now and then, and we know who the Trolls are anyway.
What GG said. Everyone has an ignore button, use it!
I'm not on here that much anymore precisely because this is a climbing site and it seems I don't climb anymore. Not happy about that bty.
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m_jones
Trad climber
Carson City, NV
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Oct 19, 2016 - 10:32pm PT
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How about splitting this forum into two sections. One for
Those willing to use their name and the other half for those that are not.
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