POLL: should political ranting be allowed on the SuperTopo forum?


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Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber
City of Salt
Apr 23, 2019 - 02:23pm PT
Jim, I can't agree. I'm going to repost what I wrote in the other thread. Don't you think these things are related to climbing?

If we discuss land policies that affect climbing access are those political topics or climbing topics? If we discuss global warming, which has implications on climbing conditions and sustainability is that a political topic or a climbing topic? If we discuss social conditions that give the privileged leisure time to recreate (climb) while those who aren't in that class can't afford or don't have the time is that a political topic or a climbing topic.

We are climbers and we're also humans. We should care about social conditions that affect all of us. The lack of civic engagement is a serious problem in this country that has resulted in us having, well, Trump. We should be encouraging more civic engagement, not less.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 23, 2019 - 02:39pm PT
Mike, I will agree that politics that directly impact climbing are viable subjects for discussion but that is not the case about mist poltical threads here.

I am against censorship and I am not suggesting banning them. I just think they clutter up and dominate the forum along with other ot threads.I just wish people would show some restraint and search out other more appropriate forums although I know that is unlikely to happen.
Steve Rathbun

Outer Lurkistan
Apr 23, 2019 - 03:04pm PT
Q: How difficult would it be to add a tab for "Other/Clutching my pearls about something besides rocks?"

A: Not Very.
David Knopp

Trad climber
Apr 23, 2019 - 03:08pm PT
Steve Rathbun? Prolific Feist-Now posting under his real name? That is ballsy!

Trad climber
Ketchum, Idaho
Apr 24, 2019 - 04:37pm PT
If you don't like the rant, don't open the thread. That's a (significant) part of free expression and a free press. The definition of 'forum' is a place for discussion. Does anyone here know or know of a climber whose life has not been impacted by politics? I don't. Keep the discussion going and open, even to the wackos who vote for Trump.

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Apr 24, 2019 - 04:50pm PT
Mark me as ďyesĒ for allowing political discussions. When they digress into ad hominem attacks, those should be pruned. Pretty easy to see which thread is political. Donít click on it if youíre not interested or offended.

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Apr 24, 2019 - 06:35pm PT
Regulation should not be focused on topic of conversation, but rather on communication style to foster mutual respect and understanding.

An a-hole can make the forum experience unpleasant no matter what is the topic, but respectful people can have interesting and mutually beneficial conversations on any topic.


Apr 24, 2019 - 07:07pm PT
Yer all ranting all the time anyways so why not.

Where ya all blew it is when you fools down voted having political and off-topic threads in a separate heading sub forum.

Off topic and politics here is like red light districts.

You people blew it because yer all ultimately

St00pid ...... :-)

Mountain climber
Hong Kong
Apr 24, 2019 - 09:16pm PT
Iím reprising here what many have already said.
It is your website & you have provided a fantastic resource for climbers for more than two decades - online & with the guidebooks.
What I, & I guess many, have found, is that a lot of the spin-off discussions have been both entertaining & educational - I have learned a lot. I have often made ST my start to the day & used references in something read there for further research into whatever interests me at the time.
Like you & I think many others, I find pointless invective & name-calling offensive, but Iíve learned to use the scroll button, & the nastier slagging are a bit like watching a couple of drunks trying to slug - you eye warily & circle wide.
As I say, your site & your prerogative. But the debate on ST has grown with its contributors & lurkers over the years, & personally I would miss it.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Apr 25, 2019 - 01:56pm PT
Much of the gutter sniping would go away with one change. Everyone should have the courage to post as the person they actually are. No tags. Post under your actual name. anonymous posting is for cowards. When people have to take ownership of what they say they might show some restrain
have you seen facebook, or comments on just about any news story where folks sign in through facebook? i'm not seeing a whole lot of restraint.

Apr 25, 2019 - 05:25pm PT
Im on the no side.

San Diego
Apr 25, 2019 - 07:53pm PT
My post was a sort of hope or guideline as a baseline for how to communicate in public and not make a fool of oneself. If they use their real name at least you know who it is when you see them at the crag. All the hiding is shallow. If a person wants to act like a fool under their real name then all power to their confidence. Maybe they don't care about consequences? At least you know who you are dealing with.
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