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selfish man

Gym climber
Austin, TX
Dec 4, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
Interesting point about RP influencing winemakers. May well be true. Then again, it doesn't take Parker to start a trend. Just look at the whole Napa phenomenon: consistently overpriced wines that are all alike, most getting deservedly poor ratings from RP yet having a huge following.

Another point is that wine making is often much more constrained not by the critics' tastes but by strict appellation regulations. Multiple French classification systems all insure you get what you expect, not something different even if different potentially means good. Much experimentation and exciting new development happen outside the classified chateaus and, if anything, Parker is responsible for bringing those more obscure and interesting wines to our attention, making winemaking more democratic...
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Dec 4, 2011 - 07:26pm PT
We really enjoyed the Ancient Peaks Cab out of Paso Robles last night. For $17.00 it was a prize.

Here is my painting of Loma Prieta Winery in the Santa Cruz Mountains, on the cover of a recent issue of Wine and Travel Magazine.

Credit: Mtnmun

Also on Burrell School's Old School Cabernet:

Credit: Mtnmun

Cheers, Jude

http://www.judebischoff.com
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Dec 4, 2011 - 08:00pm PT
Credit: pyro
Cielo is a local Malibu wine. Good stuff.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 5, 2011 - 01:38am PT
Favorite wine quote "without beer there would be no wine" David Philips

Interesting quote. I wonder what he meant. I get a few things coming to mind but since Philips is a winemaker I'm kinda curious as to what he is getting at.

The guys I drink wine with are all in the business of selling wine and most of them specifically Italian wines. Ghost is the only exception. We just share similar tastes. About half of them are or were in kitchens and a different half is actually from Italy. Once in a while, someone who drinks mostly domestic wines will show up at one of our gatherings and get pleasantly schooled.

I feel sorry for some of them because they now know they love Italian wine but are totally confused as to what to look for. Out of the 2500 grape varieties claimed as native by the Italians, only half of them have been DNA typed to certify that they are indeed distinct. 600 of those are grown commercially and then you factor in the blends, which Italians love to do and they are good at it and you have a lot of variety. Compare that to France where 99% of the wines are from 15 varieties or California where 99% are from maybe 10 varieties and you can see how confusing it can get. Add to that a totally confusing labeling morass and wow, no wonder people don't drink more Italian wine, the learning curve is impossible.

See, now even I am bored. I could go on and on but I don't like to do that unless I know someone is interested, so if anyone wants to know more, please speak up.

The most important thing I can say about Italian wine is food. I don't know how many wines I have been ambivalent about by themselves that were superb with the right food. And that is why Italians wines tend to be more acidic on the palette Than domestic stuff. We drink a lot more without considering food.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 5, 2011 - 11:43am PT
See, now even I am bored. I could go on and on but I don't like to do that unless I know someone is interested, so if anyone wants to know more, please speak up.

And therein is nub of this thread. Ditto for threads on "What's the best beer?", "Who's the best guitar player?" or any of the dozens of other "best of" threads.

People post variations on "I love [wine name]. It's the best frickin' wine on the planet." What does that mean? How many wines has this poster drunk? Is s/he someone who really should have said "I've been drinking wine for all of three months now, and don't know sh#t, and my opinion isn't worth anything but I'm going to post anyway"?

Look at Wayne's posts. He's been dealing with wine professionally for ever, and yet never says he knows what is best, or that his favorite should be everyone's favorite.

Personally, I'd be happy to hear more.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Dec 5, 2011 - 12:02pm PT
Interesting quote. I wonder what he meant.

When I worked in production, we used to throw that quote around often. We drank a lot of beer at the winery. Usually at the end of the day, but sometimes during our shift too; especially when a long crush season day turned to night. Nursing a beer was a good way to pass the time while you waited for one of your tanks to pump over. A 40oz with a burrito from the Mexican market in town was a pretty common lunch too. Yup, beer helps make lots of good wine!
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 5, 2011 - 03:07pm PT
^^^

That makes sense. I thought it was something a bit more esoteric.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 5, 2011 - 03:21pm PT
^^^^
With a twist -- I was drinking wine while making beer yesterday.
Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Dec 5, 2011 - 03:37pm PT
FWIW, I have no idea if that's what the original quote was referring to, it was just what we used to justify our own drinking on the job habits!
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 5, 2011 - 03:43pm PT
Every Thursday my boss and several of the local wine distributors sample wines. It starts in the late afternoon and goes until early evening. I am just starting my work shift and I often find it difficult to spit, especially if they have a winner.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Feb 5, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
Wow, this has been dormant for a while!

I just got back from a couple of days down in the Paso Robles area. It was our first visit there for wine tasting.

Pretty vineyards of Paso Robles
Pretty vineyards of Paso Robles
Credit: phylp

We tasted a lot of good red wine and bought enough of what we liked to last us a couple of years. As was stated above, a lot of the wines of these varietals are best when matched with food - and since we so rarely eat anything but salad for dinner our reds last a long time.

We brought home:
2010 Justin Justification (cab/merlot/cab franc)
2010 Adelaida Roussane (a rhone white - the only white we bought)
2010 Adelaida 100% Syrah (I'm the syrah fan in the house)
2009 Adelaida "The Tribe" (mourvedre/grenache/cab franc/syrah)
2005 Adelaida Reserve Cab/Syrah
2010 Chateau Margene Cielo Rosso
2009 Mooney GSM (mourvedre/syrah/grenache)

wine cave at Justin
wine cave at Justin
Credit: phylp

All very yummy! That area is a fun winter destination. We spent most of the time we were there hiking so we only had time for three tasting rooms. I'll definately go back again. Next time the first place on my list will be the Paso Wine Center downtown, which has those taste-o-matic machines and a selection of about 50 wines to taste.
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Feb 20, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
from my front porch yesterday
Credit: manzanita man
from my cellar today.
Credit: manzanita man
Credit: manzanita man
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 20, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
from my cellar today.

Hmmmm. You wouldn't mind posting your address, would you? You know, so I can hire someone to break in and relieve you of some of the stuff that's taking up space in your cellar...
manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:32am PT
only if you dont care about who you send, i can always use the target practice.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:39am PT
M-man, you are a lucky man.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 21, 2013 - 01:58am PT
hey there say, all.... wow, fine wine share here...

i was so very glad that my folks never 'over did it' as to drinking...
only SOME at supper, or for a small holiday visit...

thus:
i enjoy wine, and such... this is a fun share, thank very much...

just happened to see this, while looking for a thread, just a bit
ago--i missed a lot lately, as i been busy... :)



used to see all the neat wine country when me and the folks, and or family, went for rides...


my other brothers, too, of CHAPMAN DESIGNS had designed quite a few homes in areas where folks had neat vinyards... reminds me of nice views...
thanks again, all...
Jerry Dodrill

climber
Sebastopol
Nov 3, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
Bump!

This one is going down nice and easy tonight


2010 Taylor Ridge Pinot Noir from Bohéme Wines.
http://bohemewines.com/store/item/2010-taylor-ridge-pinot-noir
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Nov 4, 2013 - 12:41am PT
Credit: pyro
Love this one.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Mar 19, 2014 - 12:38am PT
This weekend I had the priviledge of doing an art show at my long time bro's winery, 3 Steves.

One of Livermore's newest wineries, 3 Steves, won the Red Sweepstakes title for its 2011 Cienega Valley Ancient Vine Zinfandel ($31) at the 2014 San Francisco Chronicle International Wine Competition. They competed against 5300 entries.



http://www.mercurynews.com/libations/ci_25106971/livermore-winery-wins-best-show-pinot-paradise-comes

Credit: Mtnmun
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 19, 2014 - 12:41am PT
Have you sampled "Menage a Trois",, a DELICIOUS 3 blend Red!
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