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Wade Icey
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Jul 15, 2004 - 05:37pm PT
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I think Matt's got it right, especially re:
"and remember, dogs don't leave dog crap lying around, people leave dog crap lying around... "
These are the same people (you know who you are) who shouldn't have dogs anywhere- city or crag.....
I have a very unscientific theory that the people who leave dog crap and uncontrolled dogs laying about the crags and everywhere else are the same people who shouldn't have kids, but do anyway, for the same reasons they have dogs-trendy, TV tells them they should, cool accessory for the SUV- These kids inherit their parents combined sub-normal intelligence and grow up to be the people who leave dog crap and uncontrolled dogs laying about the crags and cigarette butts in jamcracks and probably their own crap behind every tree and base of every rock in the universe....Hmmm
Hoping Darwin is right,
Wade
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BR
Trad climber
The LBC
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Jul 15, 2004 - 05:54pm PT
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I like dogs as much as the next guy, but there's something I've noticed about the majority of dog owners:
Almost every single one thinks that their dog is one of the good ones, certainly not mean, violent, hyperactive, noisy, etc. Almost every time something goes wrong, the owner is shocked and dismayed -- "s/he's never done that before!!"
Ask yourself this: is your dog happier sitting alone at the bottom of a big multipitch while you spend 3-4 hours climbing hundreds of feet above than it would be if you left it at home with a buddy to watch it and play with it?
Can you guarantee that your dog will be sufficiently taken care of if you leave it at the base of the crag? That it has enough food and water, sun and shade? Can you guarantee that the crag will be sufficiently taken care of if you leave your dog at teh base? If you let the dog roam, can you guarantee that it won't leave a big steamer somewhere you won't know to pick it up and carry it out with you?
Go ahead and bring your dog to the crag with you -- if it's one of the good ones, that's cool. But the crags don't belong to you and your dog alone -- if you aren't asking yourself some or all of those questions, maybe you should be ...
br
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Wade Icey
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Jul 15, 2004 - 06:27pm PT
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BR is right on too and brings up a point or two I forgot when I got sidetracked with half-baked theorizing-
My friend Maggiedog has been at the crags and around climbers all her life- she's a pretty good climber but would prefer to chase chipmunks and the occaisional bear, or to sleep in the shade. We've never had an incident with her and like the aforementioned majority, Consider her to be one of the good ones. that said. we never leave her unnattended or off leash at the crags, and when she's with us we only do single pitch stuff, boulder or TR so someone is always belaying her. because-
I'm always afraid she'll tangle with the wrong end of a rattler, or
she'll run off after a bear or a chipmunk (and if my wife has to choose between belaying me and going after Maggie..I'll be soloing).
and lastly, though she's peace loving; she has shown her teeth and got her back up on meeting people she find's unsavory (or maybe it's savory..yum) either way I don't want to clean up the carnage. Never know when a good dog will tangle with a bad person (or a good person eating a hamburger).
raising canus,
Wade
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mike
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tahoe city, ca.
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Jul 16, 2004 - 05:31pm PT
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Sherman's dog thimble and Lovelace's dog grigri are examples of cool ass dogs at the crags.I was at ORG a while ago and some dink had a pit bull tied up. This thing wanted to kill anything in site. Pit bulls seem to be the "cool" dog to have now adays.The guy belaying his girlfriend said "hey don't worry about him, he's cool." We were like yeah right. F*$k that. I felt like pimp slaping the bitch right there. Don't bring violent dogs to the crags no matter how cool you think you are. My Aussie is a hella mellow dog, but I still don't want to bother with the dog hassels. Think people think.Dog sh#t around the crags is bad enough.
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