Survey - Do you think we will go to war with Iran?

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TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Feb 20, 2007 - 10:21am PT

It is inevitable as long as Iran is led by a bunch of apocolyptic nuts with black towels wraped around their heads that believe that a twelve year old dead boy in a well is commanding them that it's time to end western civilization.

Maybe they've been out in the sun to long with those black towels wraped to tight.

Now enter choior of chortling apologists for the misanthropic murderous "religion of peace"

Or maybe they'll blame it on the towels, that must have been provided by Wallmart

WoodySt

Trad climber

Riverside

Feb 20, 2007 - 11:27am PT

It's the "Year of the Pig". Ergo, according to the Chinese that interpret such things, big and exciting things are going to happen throughout the world. Better start planning your Victory Garden.

paganmonkeyboy

Trad climber

the blighted lands of hatu

Feb 20, 2007 - 11:46am PT

what's that chinese curse ? 'May you live in interesting times' or something similar ?

sometimes i think i should move to moab and start drilling a cave into the sandstone...plant corn and gourds, maybe some beans...

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Feb 20, 2007 - 11:52am PT

I'd say it's inevitable with the current rhetoric coming from Iran. Do I think it's smart for the U.S. to do it? No. Maybe as a helping hand, but we're pretty far extended in Iraq. Maybe some B52's or B2's or F117's from Diego Garcia, but ground troops? No way. Let the Israeli's do it, they're the ones with the biggest stake in it.

Also, if it does go down, what happens to our ground troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? Targets? The Iranians won't hesitate to use WMD's in either country. If they were stuck, it'd have to be enormous and overwhelming. Wipe 'em quickly and render them indefensable. I don't know if that's possible now with all the Russian and Chinese AA and missle defense.

WoodySt

Trad climber

Riverside

Feb 20, 2007 - 11:56am PT

Fattrad, I posted this link on the other Iran thread. You must be most careful since some people get very upset and untidy in their thinking when such items are posted by those that shouldn't have the "nerve" or "right" to post such information; it confuses them and results in temporary mental collapse. You then have vituperation, namecalling etc.
I'll check later to see if they're still in a fugue state.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Feb 20, 2007 - 12:17pm PT

Whitey, no ability to deliver conventional weopons? You're high again. Have you heard of the anti-ship missiles they've developed? Maybe the other ballistic missiles? Do you think they'd advertise their WMD capabilities? To think they don't have gas or germ capabilities is naive.

And just because we discuss what's probably inevitable, doesn't necessarily mean we're warmongers. Just a discussion.

Edit: Nobody doubts that most of Irans population is moderate if not a pro-western society. It's the president and religious leadership that's not very 'nice'.

WoodySt

Trad climber

Riverside

Feb 20, 2007 - 12:42pm PT

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=021907A
A very interesting opinion on Iran and nukes.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Feb 20, 2007 - 01:16pm PT

Iran has sensed its opportunity with last weeks surrender resolution.

The upsurge of Iranian supplied weaponry in the form of SA-18 / SA-7s and Styer 50 cal rifles from the Quds bigades and yesterdays attack on a US base are all related and not coincidental.

They are following the example of history and are embarking on their own Tet offensive. Even though the Tet offensive was a millitary failure that resulted in the almost total destruction of the NVA as a fighting force it broke the political will in the states.

Look for Iran to try to produce as many American casualties en masse in the next few weeks as possible.

Thanks Dems for supporting the troops! I'm sure they appreciate your encoragement of Iran.

TradIsGood

Happy and Healthy climber

the Gunks end of the country

Feb 20, 2007 - 01:35pm PT

Missile capabilities - Possibly Southern tip of Africa to all of Europe and Asia

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/missile/index.html

Chemical Weapons

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/cw/index.html

General Assessment of Capabilities

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/index.html

Unlikely at this time (IMO) to answer the question originally posed.

dirtbag

climber

Feb 20, 2007 - 01:36pm PT

Survey - Do you think we will go to war with Paraguay?

Loom

climber

The Whiteboard Jungle

Feb 20, 2007 - 01:44pm PT

If we do, would that make Bush "Thelma" and Cheney "Louise", or vice versa?

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=164164

dirtbag

climber

Feb 20, 2007 - 01:45pm PT

Really Fatty? Plans are brewing for taking out Chavez?

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Feb 20, 2007 - 02:22pm PT

In semi-related news, it seems we're trying to put ballistic missile defense systems in Czech Rep. and Poland to defend against Middle Eastern missiles. The Russians aren't too pleased.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4564582.html

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Feb 20, 2007 - 02:25pm PT

Dingus, you don't need intelligence when their president publicly calls for the destruction of the Zionist state. I'd say he's the sabre-rattler in this case. It's just a matter of whether we think he's bluffing or not.