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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 25, 2019 - 04:19pm PT
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The Leeper 7 hole or 5 hole were more dangerous to use than almost any other 'nut tool' short of a short shelf bracket.
Not Terrible at the job but you could certainly sustain serious finger injuries if you slipped or fell while "wearing" it: having a thumb or fingers through the holes.
If you tried to use a random rock to aggressively loosen a stuck nut, If secured with a biner, the tools' shortcomings became evident - the damage was not limited to the biner the result of any sustained pounding left scratches & notches on both the target stopper & the racking biner.
if secured with a cord the tool would inevitably get tangled up with other gear.
I will go see if I have more than one, it may take a day or 2. If I do It will be at the bottom of this closet
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amockalypsenow
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2019 - 10:21pm PT
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Wow, supertopos finest here. Roots- I never got an email from you, so fall back dbag. Marty, I think its cool you have a collection, but I don't really feel obliged to accept whatever price you offer me because you call your collection a museum: The leeper tool, I set the price at $30 as is my choice. The crag hammer is awesome for new climbs, and if somebody wants it, its here. Somebody offered $180 for it on ebay, but I was in the sequoia climbing a new route and the offer expired.
I have shipped things within the same business day of receiving funds and provided tracking numbers.
Sold so far:
chouinard nut tool
chouinard stakes
rawl drills
smc 8
smc pickets
forrest t chocks
ice screws
warthog
chouinard zero hammer
chouinard alpine hammer
If anybody has felt I've been anything short of responsive, honest or professional, please post up. Thank you.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 26, 2019 - 07:23am PT
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Good ole' PT Barnum a local from here. What are you implying right there?
I'm still In search of proofBut the historical society gives credit for 'Skulls' rock's "chiseled teeth" to Barnum. I've a route I named that I think is more fitting
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OH ! That was easy !I Took 1/2 an hour to check, finding these 2
$30 (shipped)~seems like a fair price.
Hey Roots !!
The Pre~Scepter ! at least 10 years before the real things started showing up
The Brave Cowboy !
Wow?! yes I agree!
Thanx for that clarification
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Roots
Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
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Mar 26, 2019 - 08:08am PT
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Roots- I never got an email from you, so fall back dbag
I'm the d#@&%e...?
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Myles Moser
climber
Lone Pine, Ca
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Mar 26, 2019 - 08:09am PT
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Thanks for trying.
Drills are sweet Cam, thanks bud
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 26, 2019 - 08:20am PT
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Just saw a blue Inspector gadget hammer in good shape go for $48 on ebay.
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Mar 26, 2019 - 03:28pm PT
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Why do you folks want to bash this guy? He set an asking price. My dealings with him seemed reasonable. He was hesitant to let go of the wart hogs, so we negotiated a bit in a successful manner; he parted with one. He seems like an honest guy to me. It appears Myles had a similar experience.
$30 for a Leeper nut tool that is hard to find doesn't seem unreasonable.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Mar 26, 2019 - 03:56pm PT
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just because he is an honest guy and somebody saw a sucker born every minute does not make $260 for a yose hammer a reasonable or marginally fair deal. this is not just IMO, pretty sure
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Mar 26, 2019 - 04:35pm PT
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Cowboy, we have some history (tube chocks). There is a thing called negotiation. I don't think the OP was looking to rip anyone off. He set a price; doesn't mean he had bad intent. Just throwing something out there to see if it would stick.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Mar 26, 2019 - 04:46pm PT
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Agreed but it kinda sucks for folks that actually use old tools to see the market get all screwy. example: I love the old short handled stubai piton hammers (blue painted heads). the pick tip is just right for munge removal, mud sticking, the kinda junky new routing I do most of these days. I picked one up for $15 with two lost arrows, all mint. Another I paid $30 for, used, locally. There is, on the web, a site selling these same hammers mounted on a frame for wall hanging for well over $200. This is a waste of a great tool and it screws up access to the tool for those of us that actually still use and wear out the items in the manner for which they were built. Yes I rehandle them, but the tangs/shaft protectors snap off/wear out etc. I am just calling a spade a spade.
I have not gotten up on that Mancos mud tower yet to see about getting those tube chocks into play but will for sure post up when I do. Thanks again for your kind gifts John!
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Mar 26, 2019 - 05:04pm PT
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Agreed but it kinda sucks for folks that actually use old tools to see the market get all screwy.
The price/buying of vintage gear is in the eye of the beholder. I've over paid for some stuff. In the end, if it is worth it to the buyer for whatever reason, they want it. Like art.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Mar 26, 2019 - 05:17pm PT
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True. People will pay what people will pay. It is just a bit weird to see a 2.6x markup on a yose hammer. Sorta reminiscent of the 4.5x markup on my Epi-pens. Eminently predatory and arbitrary on both counts if you ask me.
If folks are that interested in Warthogs I know of more than a couple skeevy fixed anchors out there on top of towers in the desert that are worth as much or more than the nuke-proof ASCA 3/4" or 1" x 8" strike anchors that Lightner put in next to them. Shoot, I'da pulled one and traded it to you for your tube chocks, but for the fact that I might find use for Warthogs in actually climbing muck summits
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Mar 26, 2019 - 05:24pm PT
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True. People will pay what people will pay. It is just a bit weird to see a 2.6x markup on a yose hammer. Sorta reminiscent of the 4.5x markup on my Epi-pens. Eminently predatory and arbitrary on both counts if you ask me.
I hear ya. On the other hand, the OP asked what the tools were worth.
I guess my point is he seems like a reasonable guy from my dealing with him. If one thinks he is gouging, make a counter offer. The OP is the seller and has the right to determine the price that makes it worthwhile for him to let the gear go.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Mar 26, 2019 - 05:34pm PT
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totally agree with you, the market is as the market does. this does not mean that it is right or fair, only that it is.
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Myles Moser
climber
Lone Pine, Ca
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Mar 26, 2019 - 09:14pm PT
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I lost that ebay bid buy a dollar when I was in spain! One buck! Keep, keeping an eye out
Thanks Grossman
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