An Alt Opinion; 'Free Solo' = Epidemic of Toxic Masculinity

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Larry Nelson

Social climber
Jan 4, 2019 - 08:14am PT
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Jan 4, 2019 - 09:46am PT
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Larry Nelson, The real news below.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/14/676901146/facing-allegations-of-child-abuse-the-boy-scouts-of-america-considers-bankruptcy
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Jan 4, 2019 - 12:56pm PT
And some of these guys still wonder why women, for the most part, don't participate in this forum.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Jan 4, 2019 - 05:33pm PT
Hey Nita,
Well, I'm no daisy either ;-)
The boy scout picture I posted alludes to a correlation that I found humor in.

The NPR story on sexual predators is not humorous. The churches, colleges, public schools, TV newsrooms, Hollywood institutions, political organizations, big business and meat rack taverns across America also seem to be infested with sexual predators.
(If college statistics on campus rape rates are not inflated, or conflated by definition, college campuses are the most dangerous place in America for women).

Happie,
The nuances of humor are lost on texting forums, and are amplified by sex differences. I don't post anything here to put down any individuals on ST, and try to engage with intellectual honesty when questioned, because I respect climbers and this forum.

I will reiterate that the way men treat women starts at a young age. How does one's father treat one's mother, and how much respect does one's mother command. IOW, a strong and loving family is key, and a sense of humor doesn't hurt.
Edit: My wife and my sister laughed at the boy scout pic, but they know me.

IMHO, the bottom line of the article this thread is based on:
How dare Honnold not be a SJW for my favorite cause/s.


Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Jan 4, 2019 - 06:06pm PT
Yeah, some people thought images suggesting Michelle Obama was an ape were funny too. Or the "Woman with two black eyes" joke.

I don't see what is humorous in suggesting it was being inclusive of females that had the Scouts considering bankruptcy.
Jodie

Sport climber
Oregon
Jan 5, 2019 - 07:46am PT
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capseeboy

Social climber
portland, oregon
Jan 5, 2019 - 07:58am PT
I ask them, what do you think constitutes a practical application? It’s very surprising. Roughly speaking, people converge within five to 10 minutes onto two categories of practical applications. One is, if you manage to make several million dollars instantly. The other is, if you manage to kill millions of people instantly. Many people are actually kind of shocked by their own answers.

Then I tell them that, well, I don’t know about other people, but I have a practical application for my toys. When I show my toys to some children, they seem to be happy. If that’s not a practical application, what is?
---Tadashi Tokieda
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 9, 2019 - 08:46pm PT
Well, it is official now, a clinical analysis by the professionals

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/american-psychological-association-links-masculinity-ideology-homophobia-misogyny-n956416

The new “Guidelines for the Psychological Practice with Boys and Men” defines “masculinity ideology” as “a particular constellation of standards that have held sway over large segments of the population, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence.” The report also links this ideology to homophobia, bullying and sexual harassment. . . . . .

. . . “Men who benefit from their social power are also confined by system-level policies and practices as well as individual-level psychological resources necessary to maintain male privilege,” the guidelines state. “Thus, male privilege often comes with a cost in the form of adherence to sexist ideologies designed to maintain male power that also restrict men’s ability to function adaptively.”

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jan 9, 2019 - 10:08pm PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 7, 2019 - 09:03am PT
Boys will be boys will be boys will be boys.

And men should be men enough to do the right thing.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
ECF

Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
Feb 7, 2019 - 12:18pm PT
Any woman on Earth is free to step up and solo it.

We are waiting...

Until then it’s just more clucking from somebody who can’t do a thing, just disparage others who can. Her argument has zero merit.

All I see is toxic feminism and haters.
WBraun

climber
Feb 7, 2019 - 02:01pm PT
Best post of the whole thread .....^^^^
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Feb 7, 2019 - 02:21pm PT
What the duck said.

BAd
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 8, 2019 - 12:33am PT
"Best post of the whole thread."



And we WERE waiting, too...


Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Feb 8, 2019 - 03:08pm PT
Zardoz, I believe Alex has spent far more time with a partner and a rope than he has free soloing.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Feb 8, 2019 - 04:01pm PT
I walked out and asked for a refund.
Couldn't handle all the mysogyny.
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Feb 8, 2019 - 08:59pm PT
This is getting toxic!

Can we all just calm down a little?
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Feb 8, 2019 - 10:34pm PT
I took Anita's post to be a joke. Am I wrong?
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Feb 9, 2019 - 01:35am PT
There is a big delineation between those that actually do stuff, and them that just talk about it afterwards.
Trump

climber
Feb 9, 2019 - 08:24am PT
We see lines with our minds wherever it suits us to see lines. If you imagine a line here, cool.

What some people do is climb. What some people do is think and say things. Some people do both. No doubt some folks are better than others at climbing, and some folks are better than others at thinking and saying. Folks don’t necessarily do either because they’re all they good at it, but often just because it’s what they’re drawn to do.

Seems like the thing that we all are doing is thinking and saying. If it’s not what we want to be doing, then don’t do it. If we want to disparage other folks for doing it, ok, then that’s what we’re doing. Folks get pretty good at that too.
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